UsikFark: ZackDanger: ORThe guy had a pulse and respirations when the trainer first got there... but then deteriorated by the time the Doctor got next to him?Maybe the doctor strangled him with a stethoscope just to be sure he didn't have a pulse.
BronyMedic: Ed Finnerty: And that is why paramedics are no longer allowed to participate in "Wear Your Favorite Halloween Mask to Work Day".Not all arrest rhythms are shockable, and are only able to be treated by identifying the reversable causes and correcting them as quickly as possible. Some of those you can reverse in the field, some of those you can't. Even shockable rhythms can turn into an irreversable asystole depending on how long the patient has been down, and what's going on with them to cause it in the first place.
Britney Spear's Speculum: And that's why the court should throw this case out. It will do more harm than good if they rule that the club was negligible.
UsikFark: Ed Finnerty: FTFA: A doctor and medical student began cardio-pulmonary resuscitation, then paramedics arrived and shocked Miglino, but he died.And that is why paramedics are no longer allowed to participate in "Wear Your Favorite Halloween Mask to Work Day".Relevant:[www.wearysloth.com image 320x240]Want to see something really scary?
BronyMedic: ZackDanger: UsikFark: ZackDanger: ORThe guy had a pulse and respirations when the trainer first got there... but then deteriorated by the time the Doctor got next to him?Maybe the doctor strangled him with a stethoscope just to be sure he didn't have a pulse.Maybe the trainer accidentally checked the pulse on a guy lifting weights *next* to the victim... and then the doctor did CPR on a punching bag that was laying in the corner and THERE NEVER WAS A VICTIM.The paramedics were just milk men.Maybe, just maybe, the reverse vampires actually set this up to murder him!
ltdanman44: vygramul: cretinbob: If he wasn't in a shockable rhythm, it wouldn't have mattered anyway.AED's give a false sense of security.They treat a very small subset of shockable rhythms to begin with. Like fewer than 20% of them.the automated external defibrillator can determine this. it just needs to be hooked up to the patient, and they did not do this.
BronyMedic: QUICK! GO BOIL WATER! AND I NEED TOWELS. LOTS OF TOWELS!
"...they aren't required to actually use them on a stricken patron, the state's highest court ruled Thursday."
For heaven's sake why not? As Farkers above have said, you can put the pads on a person and the defib won't shock the person unless it detects that the person needs it. And remembering my training, compression is very important, even more than breathing into the person's airway. You have to keep the blood moving and everything oxygenated or the person's brain is screwed.The funniest part of the training is when they tell you that before pads are applied, you should quickly shave down any hairy chests and remove any body piercing on the victims including nipple piercings. Or else if a shock is applied it will just jump in between the piercings (at least that's how I remember the trainer explaining it).
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