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(Kotaku)   Hasbro orders the Friendship is Magic: Fighting is Magic project to be taken to the glue factory   (kotaku.com) divider line 114
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2013-02-09 03:40:42 PM
This proves that Hasbro is finally getting serious about taking their show back from adult male pedophiles and giving back to little girls.
 
2013-02-09 03:46:39 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: This proves that Hasbro is finally getting serious about taking their show back from adult male pedophiles and giving back to little girls.


I bet you have a van, and offer free candy to children. It's only logical, since you seem know just what pedophiles like.

...must be why you don't watch My Little Pony, too.


Anyway, Fighting may be magic, but copyright infringement isn't.
 
2013-02-09 04:28:53 PM
FTFA:  The only real question here is why now? Perhaps the Evo tournament nod was a step too far for Hasbro. The company has been incredibly tolerant and even supportive of the show's mature fan base thus far

Because nobody else was making a marketable product based off of MLP:FiM.  That's why.  Hasbro's well within its right to do this.  Perhaps the developers should've met with the Hasbro execs first?  *shrug*
 
2013-02-09 04:31:27 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Because People in power are Stupid: This proves that Hasbro is finally getting serious about taking their show back from adult male pedophiles and giving back to little girls.

I bet you have a van, and offer free candy to children. It's only logical, since you seem know just what pedophiles like.

...must be why you don't watch My Little Pony, too.


Anyway, Fighting may be magic, but copyright infringement isn't.


But by Rubber-Glue vs Smelt-It-Dealt-it corp 1969 when one accuses anyone else specifically of an act -the accusing party is indeed guilty of the crime. However, if someone accuses others of a crime generally -then the accuser is in fact without sin and may cast the first stone.
 
2013-02-09 04:38:17 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: FirstNationalBastard: Because People in power are Stupid: This proves that Hasbro is finally getting serious about taking their show back from adult male pedophiles and giving back to little girls.

I bet you have a van, and offer free candy to children. It's only logical, since you seem know just what pedophiles like.

...must be why you don't watch My Little Pony, too.


Anyway, Fighting may be magic, but copyright infringement isn't.

But by Rubber-Glue vs Smelt-It-Dealt-it corp 1969 when one accuses anyone else specifically of an act -the accusing party is indeed guilty of the crime. However, if someone accuses others of a crime generally -then the accuser is in fact without sin and may cast the first stone.


That was overturned in 1982 by the Supreme Court. Warren Burger himself gave the Majority opinion explaining that he who smelt it, indeed, dealt it and that he who denied it, in fact did supply it. He then jumped up on the bench, threw his robe over Sandra Day O'Connor's, head, and gave her a wicked dutch oven, all the while saying "I don't smell anything."
 
2013-02-09 04:54:14 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-09 05:50:18 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: [i.imgur.com image 669x620]


Why are we suddenly pretending that these kind of people only exist among the bronies?
 
2013-02-09 05:57:48 PM

Nebulious: thismomentinblackhistory: [i.imgur.com image 669x620]

Why are we suddenly pretending that these kind of people only exist among the bronies?


Probably because it's easier to deride them and doesn't require acknowledging that <insert personally relevant interest here> attracts just as many obsessively-interested people that tend to come off as creepy no matter what character they're dressing up as/admiring.
 
2013-02-09 06:08:54 PM
Dammit, messed up the headline.  That should have been "My Little Pony: Fighting is Magic."
 
2013-02-09 06:21:12 PM
Stop fapping to horses.
 
2013-02-09 06:22:56 PM
1) I have no idea why this show is popular.

2) There is nothing wrong or weird about the people who do, or that nerd out over it, dress up, etc.

I wish people would just leave well enough alone. If they're happy... Well, being happy is probably a feat for them. Let 'em have it.
 
2013-02-09 06:23:27 PM

Shedim: Nebulious: thismomentinblackhistory: [i.imgur.com image 669x620]

Why are we suddenly pretending that these kind of people only exist among the bronies?

Probably because it's easier to deride them and doesn't require acknowledging that <insert personally relevant interest here> attracts just as many obsessively-interested people that tend to come off as creepy no matter what character they're dressing up as/admiring.


You make a great point.  Jerking off while dressing as a cartoon horse and thinking about cartoon horses is exactly the same as having a cool stamp collection.
 
2013-02-09 06:30:18 PM

Nebulious: thismomentinblackhistory: [i.imgur.com image 669x620]

Why are we suddenly pretending that these kind of people only exist among the bronies?


Bronies just happen to be relevant to the article. These kind of people exist everywhere, in every subculture. They are fun to make fun of because, to those of us outside of the subculture, they look farking ridiculous. A brony isn't born a brony. He decides to either latch on to this phenomenon or realizes the phenomenon reflects him...and that's farking hilarious.
 
2013-02-09 06:31:03 PM

gimmegimme: Shedim: Nebulious: thismomentinblackhistory: [i.imgur.com image 669x620]

Why are we suddenly pretending that these kind of people only exist among the bronies?

Probably because it's easier to deride them and doesn't require acknowledging that <insert personally relevant interest here> attracts just as many obsessively-interested people that tend to come off as creepy no matter what character they're dressing up as/admiring.

You make a great point.  Jerking off while dressing as a cartoon horse and thinking about cartoon horses is exactly the same as having a cool stamp collection.


A) it's the same as jerking off to a stamp collection.
B) there is no such thing as a cool stamp collection.
C) so what, girls aren't allowed to have quality fighting games? Fark you.
 
2013-02-09 06:31:04 PM
Been watching the chan boards on this one. The levels of autism have been the likes of which even God has never seen.

/And I thought furries were a creepy bunch that were easily rattled. They got nuthin' on bronies.
 
2013-02-09 06:31:18 PM
Looks likes Bronies came back around on the bi-weekly spin of the "Who do Farker's hate?" wheel.
 
2013-02-09 06:31:26 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Dammit, messed up the headline.  That should have been "My Little Pony: Fighting is Magic."


It...it really doesn't matter.
 
2013-02-09 06:32:08 PM

TV's Vinnie: They got nuthin' on bronies.


Juggalos have thicker skins. Well, that's a given, I suppose...
 
2013-02-09 06:32:39 PM
PS: This isn't a shoop. There is really is such a product. Either the goons at Hasbro aren't paying attention or they're trolling.

ts2.mm.bing.net
 
2013-02-09 06:33:59 PM

Mara See Mara Do: gimmegimme: Shedim: Nebulious: thismomentinblackhistory: [i.imgur.com image 669x620]

Why are we suddenly pretending that these kind of people only exist among the bronies?

Probably because it's easier to deride them and doesn't require acknowledging that <insert personally relevant interest here> attracts just as many obsessively-interested people that tend to come off as creepy no matter what character they're dressing up as/admiring.

You make a great point.  Jerking off while dressing as a cartoon horse and thinking about cartoon horses is exactly the same as having a cool stamp collection.

A) it's the same as jerking off to a stamp collection.
B) there is no such thing as a cool stamp collection.
C) so what, girls aren't allowed to have quality fighting games? Fark you.


Well, let me know when there's a convention of people who like to jerk off to their stamp collections.  You and I can go point and laugh together.

//I have no idea what the part about the fighting games means, but you seem to feel very strongly about it.
 
2013-02-09 06:36:57 PM
Oh, and before any bronies here start sperging, let me point out (as I had mentioned in today's earlier MLP thread), that the makers of Fighting is Magic were caught trying to arrange a secret deal with the folks at Gamespot for a bit of money for every FiM download made. That's when Hasbro decided to put on their Brixton 9000s and plant it up some bronie's hindquarters.
 
2013-02-09 06:41:01 PM
This game hasn't exactly been flying under the radar. It's been pretty heavily hyped in Bronydom for a while now. So either Hasbro are hideously ignorant of the fans, or have just decided to be colossal pricks now for some reason. Either way, they're goddamn morons. When your show has a fandom like this, it's generally considered bad form to shiat on them.

Fighting is Magic was nonprofit. No money was being lost that would have otherwise gone to Hasbro. If they had a problem with the concept, why didn't they C&D it earlier, instead of waiting 'til it was almost done? Did Hasbro shuffle executives around, because this reeks of a new exec with a bug up his/her ass.
 
2013-02-09 06:42:20 PM

TV's Vinnie: Oh, and before any bronies here start sperging, let me point out (as I had mentioned in today's earlier MLP thread), that the makers of Fighting is Magic were caught trying to arrange a secret deal with the folks at Gamespot for a bit of money for every FiM download made. That's when Hasbro decided to put on their Brixton 9000s and plant it up some bronie's hindquarters.


[citation needed]
 
2013-02-09 06:45:58 PM

TV's Vinnie: Oh, and before any bronies here start sperging, let me point out (as I had mentioned in today's earlier MLP thread), that the makers of Fighting is Magic were caught trying to arrange a secret deal with the folks at Gamespot for a bit of money for every FiM download made. That's when Hasbro decided to put on their Brixton 9000s and plant it up some bronie's hindquarters.


/facepalm
What did they think was going to happen? On the plus side, a cease and desist is a lot nicer than a suit for $150k in statutory damages for willful copyright infringement and $1M for commercial trademark infringement.
 
2013-02-09 06:48:37 PM

Theaetetus: TV's Vinnie: Oh, and before any bronies here start sperging, let me point out (as I had mentioned in today's earlier MLP thread), that the makers of Fighting is Magic were caught trying to arrange a secret deal with the folks at Gamespot for a bit of money for every FiM download made. That's when Hasbro decided to put on their Brixton 9000s and plant it up some bronie's hindquarters.

/facepalm
What did they think was going to happen? On the plus side, a cease and desist is a lot nicer than a suit for $150k in statutory damages for willful copyright infringement and $1M for commercial trademark infringement.


I'm holding out judgment 'til I get a citation. If it's true, then yeah, the ManeSix devs need at least a good dopeslap.
 
2013-02-09 06:52:54 PM
LordJiro:
Fighting is Magic was nonprofit. No money was being lost that would have otherwise gone to Hasbro.

Legally irrelevant, even if it makes a good emotional plea. Problem is, one, Hasbro has to protect their trademark if they want to retain control of it; and two, a pony fighting game is contrary to the message they want associated with their characters and trademark. Allowing the game would tarnish Hasbro's reputation among their primary demographic, even if Bronies liked it.

 If they had a problem with the concept, why didn't they C&D it earlier, instead of waiting 'til it was almost done? Did Hasbro shuffle executives around, because this reeks of a new exec with a bug up his/her ass.

they may have been less upset about it while it stayed on Brony fan sites, but once they started seeking wider distribution through Gamespot, then they had to take action, per above.
 
2013-02-09 06:54:40 PM
 
2013-02-09 06:55:31 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Satanic_Hamster: Dammit, messed up the headline.  That should have been "My Little Pony: Fighting is Magic."

It...it really doesn't matter.


It matters to me, dammit.  I demand perfect in my greenlit headlines, even if I'm half asleep or drunk when writing them.  Or both.
 
2013-02-09 06:56:29 PM

Satanic_Hamster: thismomentinblackhistory: Satanic_Hamster: Dammit, messed up the headline.  That should have been "My Little Pony: Fighting is Magic."

It...it really doesn't matter.

It matters to me, dammit.  I demand perfect in my greenlit headlines, even if I'm half asleep or drunk when writing them.  Or both.


God dammit, "perfection."  There's something wrong with my brain today.
 
2013-02-09 07:09:12 PM

LordJiro: I'm holding out judgment 'til I get a citation. If it's true, then yeah, the ManeSix devs need at least a good dopeslap.


People put games up on Gamespot, and in return Gamespot gives the devs money for every download, even for the "free" games. Gamespot looks at it like advertising to come to their site. A MLP game would have been an advert Bonanza for Gamespot.

When Hasbro found out, they decided to start grasping the reigns a bit tighter (pun intended). This was why they also sent DCMAs to You Tube to take down the "Friendship is Witchcraft" parodies.

The bronies only have themselves to blame for this.
 
2013-02-09 07:11:59 PM

TV's Vinnie: Been watching the chan boards on this one. The levels of autism have been the likes of which even God has never seen.

/And I thought furries were a creepy bunch that were easily rattled. They got nuthin' on bronies.


Apropos of nothing, I would challenge you to name ANY chan board that isn't host to the dregs of humanity. I wouldn't take them as a representative sample any more than I would take /v/ as a representative sample of people that play videogames, or God forbid, looking at /tv/ as a representative sample of people that watch television and films.
 
2013-02-09 07:13:38 PM

LordJiro: Theaetetus: TV's Vinnie: Oh, and before any bronies here start sperging, let me point out (as I had mentioned in today's earlier MLP thread), that the makers of Fighting is Magic were caught trying to arrange a secret deal with the folks at Gamespot for a bit of money for every FiM download made. That's when Hasbro decided to put on their Brixton 9000s and plant it up some bronie's hindquarters.

/facepalm
What did they think was going to happen? On the plus side, a cease and desist is a lot nicer than a suit for $150k in statutory damages for willful copyright infringement and $1M for commercial trademark infringement.

I'm holding out judgment 'til I get a citation. If it's true, then yeah, the ManeSix devs need at least a good dopeslap.


That. If true, or if it had something to do with the EVO 2013 donation campaign, they farked up. A pity they couldn't have worked out a deal with Hasbro for a license to use the trademark.

i.imgur.com

A damn shame, though. Anyone could have slapped a pony bitmap onto an existing game. These guys approached the fighting game genre seriously. By all accounts, Fighting is Magic was going to be able to stand on its merits as a 2D fighter, not just as a brony thing.
 
2013-02-09 07:13:56 PM

DrowningLessons: 2) There is nothing wrong or weird about the people who do, or that nerd out over it, dress up, etc.

I wish people would just leave well enough alone. If they're happy... Well, being happy is probably a feat for them. Let 'em have it.


Pretty much.
 
2013-02-09 07:17:18 PM

Mike_LowELL: DrowningLessons: 2) There is nothing wrong or weird about the people who do, or that nerd out over it, dress up, etc.

I wish people would just leave well enough alone. If they're happy... Well, being happy is probably a feat for them. Let 'em have it.

Pretty much.

ts4.mm.bing.net
 
2013-02-09 07:21:44 PM

Satanic_Hamster: I demand perfect in my greenlit headlines,


Haha, I see you caught that but still funny :)
 
2013-02-09 07:22:20 PM

TV's Vinnie: ts4.mm.bing.net


In fairness, I think pretty much everybody has some sexual fetish or attraction that disgusts ninety-five percent of all people.

Strolpol: I wouldn't take them as a representative sample any more than I would take /v/ as a representative sample of people that play videogames,


What's wrong with /v/?  They're certainly not as bad as GameFAQs.
 
2013-02-09 07:25:07 PM

Mike_LowELL: In fairness, I think pretty much everybody has some sexual fetish or attraction that disgusts ninety-five percent of all people.


As Emo Philips once said,

www.thejakartaglobe.com
"I have a love of animals that almost borders on being......illegal."
 
2013-02-09 07:25:16 PM

Mike_LowELL: In fairness, I think pretty much everybody has some sexual fetish or attraction that disgusts ninety-five percent of all people.


Not everybody chooses to identify themselves with a group of people that are responsible for turning children's entertainment into a sexual fetish. It's not normal. It's farking weird. But those of us on the outside are supposed to be handing out gold medals to every self-identified brony who doesn't want to fark a cartoon horse?

I don't think so. Bronies deserve the ridicule they get.
 
2013-02-09 07:39:23 PM
I look at most human biology as "What helped us survive in the jungle?", but I'd be lying if I could figure what sexual selective trait that "attracted to a drawing of a cartoon horse" would fulfill.  For that reason, it's tough for me to make a judgment.  I dunno.  It may weird me out, and I think some of the candor people discuss their "sekrit love" with really weirds me out, but I'm hard-pressed to say that most of the deviance harms me or anyone else.  So obviously, if people are screwing kids, for instance, then we have a problem.  Consenting adults can pretty much do what they want, as far as I'm concerned.
 
2013-02-09 07:45:32 PM
Oh, and I'll just amend my statement by saying that if anyone thinks "grown adults sexually attracted to a children's cartoon" is the nadir of internet sexuality, well...Rule 34 exists for a reason.
 
2013-02-09 07:46:49 PM

Gurlugon: Stop fapping to horses.


No.

i46.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-09 07:50:54 PM

Mike_LowELL: TV's Vinnie: ts4.mm.bing.net

In fairness, I think pretty much everybody has some sexual fetish or attraction that disgusts ninety-five percent of all people.


Yeah, but when you find somebody else in that five percent, then you get your freak on and make awkward, ugly babies.
 
2013-02-09 07:55:56 PM

Twilight Farkle: A damn shame, though. Anyone could have slapped a pony bitmap onto an existing game. These guys approached the fighting game genre seriously. By all accounts, Fighting is Magic was going to be able to stand on its merits as a 2D fighter, not just as a brony thing.


Then why make a illegal game?  All fan fiction is illegal.  All fan-coded games is illegal and will be shut down EVERY SINGLE TIME!  I mean, they have to enforced the trademark, or they will lose the trademark status.  That's actually how it works legally.  Nintendo does this sort of thing all the time, even for things that they think are pretty cool.

So, why spend all of that time coding the stuff when you KNOW it's going to die a painful death?
 
2013-02-09 07:58:22 PM

Twilight Farkle: That. If true, or if it had something to do with the EVO 2013 donation campaign, they farked up. A pity they couldn't have worked out a deal with Hasbro for a license to use the trademark.


Oh, come on. A pity, yes, but a pity in the same way that it's a pity that Warren Buffet doesn't sign over his entire estate to me. Hasbro never would have licensed that mark,  particularly not to a fighting game.

A damn shame, though. Anyone could have slapped a pony bitmap onto an existing game. These guys approached the fighting game genre seriously. By all accounts, Fighting is Magic was going to be able to stand on its merits as a 2D fighter, not just as a brony thing.

And if true, then they should be able to re-do the artwork and release it as a legitimate fighter on its own, which would be great.
 
2013-02-09 08:01:44 PM

Gurlugon: Stop fapping to horses.


I was a young lad of 12, just starting to become aware of my own sexuality. My sister had a wide assortment of dolls - barbie, cabbage patch...but I found myself most interested in the ponies. I couldn't stop holding them when she wasn't around, caressing their soft plastic rumps, feeling their silky manes against my cheek.

They began to get suspicious eventually, my parents. Her dolls would keep going missing at an alarming rate (I tried to wash them when I was done but without success). Finally the day came where they found my stash, the shoebox I kept under my bed and behind my GI Joes. There was no way to lie my way out of it, the boxes of tissues and ponies with matted fur and paint rubbing off. It was humiliating. There was yelling, tears, they just didn't understand, they prayed it was just a phase. My dad even bought me Playboys hoping that I would find my way back to normalcy. I pretended, but in my heart I remained the same.

I moved out when I was 18, haven't spoken to my family since. Fortunately I found a nice job working on a ranch doing various jobs, and I even found someone to share my life with. Her names Cloud Chaser (I call her chase), she's a lovely Palomino who really understands me for who I am, and loves to cuddle after a good ride. Just thinking about running my hands over her velvet flanks while she thunders beneath me...

Excuse me, I need to take care of something.
 
2013-02-09 08:03:19 PM

blue_2501: So, why spend all of that time coding the stuff when you KNOW it's going to die a painful death?


  (i) You think you have some legitimate fair use/parody/"but we're a non-profit!" argument. You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time;
  (ii) You think that you can capitalize on the popularity of the IP you're copying to get attention, and once you get the cease & desist, you slap on the new artwork and come out with a "My Little Horsies: Magic Friendship Fight" game trying to skirt around the C&D. You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time;
  (iii) You think that you can get media attention and support from the community, because your game will be soooooo great that Hasbro will  have to give in! You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time; and
  (iv) You're doing it for the press and media attention, but then you'll drop the IP completely and come out with an entirely new property, hoping that enough of the media attention carries over to your new effort. If you're really smart, you were  already working on new, non-parody, completely independent artwork and can release the new version within a few weeks.

Number iv could actually work.
 
2013-02-09 08:13:08 PM

blue_2501:
Then why make a illegal game? All fan fiction is illegal. All fan-coded games is illegal and will be shut down EVERY SINGLE TIME! I mean, they have to enforced the trademark, or they will lose the trademark status. That's actually how it works legally. Nintendo does this sort of thing all the time, even for things that they think are pretty cool.

So, why spend all of that time coding the stuff when you KNOW it's going to die a painful death?


The fans and artists have typically gone out of their way to admit they don't own the IP, and to acknowledge its origin. In return, Hasbro's actually dealt with the IP issues around the property with a very light hand. As you correctly point out, trademarks require that their owners defend them or risk losing them. Eventually the story will come out, even if the game doesn't.

Theaetetus:
And if true, then they should be able to re-do the artwork and release it as a legitimate fighter on its own, which would be great.


They even had an offer of help from a pretty awesome source. After they recover from the shock and disappointment, I hope they take her up on it. As you say, "Number iv could actually work."
 
2013-02-09 08:28:51 PM

DoomPaul: Gurlugon: Stop fapping to horses.

No.


i46.tinypic.com

The Big Irony of a man who clops off to a cartoon made for girls is that he will never, ever know the touch of a woman besides their own mother (and I bet she too is a bit oogied out from all this herself).
 
2013-02-09 08:32:19 PM

TV's Vinnie: Mike_LowELL: DrowningLessons: 2) There is nothing wrong or weird about the people who do, or that nerd out over it, dress up, etc.

I wish people would just leave well enough alone. If they're happy... Well, being happy is probably a feat for them. Let 'em have it.

Pretty much.
[ts4.mm.bing.net image 266x300]

You sire owe me another coffee, keyboard, and monitor.
 
2013-02-09 08:33:43 PM
They still haven't shut down my My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic: The Gathering game yet!
 
2013-02-09 08:35:02 PM
i46.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-09 09:10:53 PM
Bronies
Browncoats
Beliebers
Twi-Hards (Twilight fans)
Furries
Trekkers (1970s variety)
WoW zombies
Toddler Pageant Moms
Beanie Baby Collectors
Fans of TMZ

Give them their own island. Build a wall around it. Check back in 100 years and see what horrors they have spawned. Weaponize it. Rule the world.
 
2013-02-09 09:14:54 PM

ZeroCorpse: Bronies
Browncoats
Beliebers
Twi-Hards (Twilight fans)
Furries
Trekkers (1970s variety)
WoW zombies
Toddler Pageant Moms
Beanie Baby Collectors
Fans of TMZ

Give them their own island. Build a wall around it. Check back in 100 years and see what horrors they have spawned. Weaponize it. Rule the world.


Actually, let me amend that.
Leave the Browncoats and Trekkers (even the 1970s variety) out of it. It's just too cruel to put them on an island with those people. Instead, give their spot to the Juggalos.
 
2013-02-09 09:19:31 PM

Yuri Futanari: Gurlugon: Stop fapping to horses.

I was a young lad of 12, just starting to become aware of my own sexuality. My sister had a wide assortment of dolls - barbie, cabbage patch...but I found myself most interested in the ponies. I couldn't stop holding them when she wasn't around, caressing their soft plastic rumps, feeling their silky manes against my cheek.

They began to get suspicious eventually, my parents. Her dolls would keep going missing at an alarming rate (I tried to wash them when I was done but without success). Finally the day came where they found my stash, the shoebox I kept under my bed and behind my GI Joes. There was no way to lie my way out of it, the boxes of tissues and ponies with matted fur and paint rubbing off. It was humiliating. There was yelling, tears, they just didn't understand, they prayed it was just a phase. My dad even bought me Playboys hoping that I would find my way back to normalcy. I pretended, but in my heart I remained the same.

I moved out when I was 18, haven't spoken to my family since. Fortunately I found a nice job working on a ranch doing various jobs, and I even found someone to share my life with. Her names Cloud Chaser (I call her chase), she's a lovely Palomino who really understands me for who I am, and loves to cuddle after a good ride. Just thinking about running my hands over her velvet flanks while she thunders beneath me...

Excuse me, I need to take care of something.



I knew Mr. Hands wasn't dead.
 
2013-02-09 09:30:12 PM

ZeroCorpse: ZeroCorpse: Bronies
Browncoats
Beliebers
Twi-Hards (Twilight fans)
Furries
Trekkers (1970s variety)
WoW zombies
Toddler Pageant Moms
Beanie Baby Collectors
Fans of TMZ

Give them their own island. Build a wall around it. Check back in 100 years and see what horrors they have spawned. Weaponize it. Rule the world.

Actually, let me amend that.
Leave the Browncoats and Trekkers (even the 1970s variety) out of it. It's just too cruel to put themme on an island with those people. Instead, give their spot to the Juggalos.


It's cool when you do it, right?
 
2013-02-09 09:38:37 PM
i.qkme.me
 
2013-02-09 09:43:40 PM

Nebulious: Why are we suddenly pretending that these kind of people only exist among the bronies?


images3.wikia.nocookie.net

static.tvguide.com

www.tomjwhitaker.net

As the old sing-song goes, "One of these things is not like the other, one of these things is not the same..."

Not that I'm justifying brony hate. Just that I can understand where the 'WTF' reaction is coming from.

Mike_LowELL: In fairness, I think pretty much everybody has some sexual fetish or attraction that disgusts ninety-five percent of all people.


True. True.
 
2013-02-09 09:45:33 PM

Mike_LowELL: Oh, and I'll just amend my statement by saying that if anyone thinks "grown adults sexually attracted to a children's cartoon" is the nadir of internet sexuality, well...Rule 34 exists for a reason.


And this too.
 
2013-02-09 09:53:56 PM

TV's Vinnie: Been watching the chan boards on this one. The levels of autism have been the likes of which even God has never seen.

/And I thought furries were a creepy bunch that were easily rattled. They got nuthin' on bronies.


I'll bet they can barely pull themselves away from Minecraft to post their angry responses.
 
2013-02-09 09:58:16 PM

Yuri Futanari: Gurlugon: Stop fapping to horses.

I was a young lad of 12, just starting to become aware of my own sexuality. My sister had a wide assortment of dolls - barbie, cabbage patch...but I found myself most interested in the ponies. I couldn't stop holding them when she wasn't around, caressing their soft plastic rumps, feeling their silky manes against my cheek.

They began to get suspicious eventually, my parents. Her dolls would keep going missing at an alarming rate (I tried to wash them when I was done but without success). Finally the day came where they found my stash, the shoebox I kept under my bed and behind my GI Joes. There was no way to lie my way out of it, the boxes of tissues and ponies with matted fur and paint rubbing off. It was humiliating. There was yelling, tears, they just didn't understand, they prayed it was just a phase. My dad even bought me Playboys hoping that I would find my way back to normalcy. I pretended, but in my heart I remained the same.

I moved out when I was 18, haven't spoken to my family since. Fortunately I found a nice job working on a ranch doing various jobs, and I even found someone to share my life with. Her names Cloud Chaser (I call her chase), she's a lovely Palomino who really understands me for who I am, and loves to cuddle after a good ride. Just thinking about running my hands over her velvet flanks while she thunders beneath me...

Excuse me, I need to take care of something.


That plus your username...

dl.dropbox.com
 
2013-02-09 10:04:04 PM

TV's Vinnie: [i46.tinypic.com image 800x417]


What's worse, that he had that on his wall or that you recognized it so easily?
 
2013-02-09 10:20:38 PM
Wow, on the one hand I thought the idea was stupid and am horrified to think it could show up at EVO. On the other hand Hasbro tearing down an Indie studio for a completely legitimate and non-profit game.

Did they have any problem with the Death Battle episode where a pony fought a Transformer?
 
2013-02-09 10:42:30 PM

Satanic_Hamster: TV's Vinnie: [i46.tinypic.com image 800x417]

What's worse, that he had that on his wall or that you recognized it so easily?


(c) that it was so easy to find on the Internet. I saw the general outline, typed in "MLP leash" on Bing Image Search (Google Image Search has turned to crap since last Fall), and there it was.
 
2013-02-09 10:46:58 PM
Do people here really think that the fans of the show are sexually attracted to ponies? That's like saying a fan of Family Guy is sexually attracted to Peter Griffin, or fans of Star Wars are fapping to Yoda. There are a few weirdos who might, and that goes for any show ever made but for the majority of fans of FIM it has absolutely nothing to do with sex in any way. It's just an entertaining cartoon.

I know most of the people saying stuff like that are trolls but I get the feeling a lot of them are serious.

/love the show
//not attracted to cartoon horses
 
2013-02-09 10:51:04 PM

Ape_Stone: TV's Vinnie: Mike_LowELL: DrowningLessons: 2) There is nothing wrong or weird about the people who do, or that nerd out over it, dress up, etc.

I wish people would just leave well enough alone. If they're happy... Well, being happy is probably a feat for them. Let 'em have it.

Pretty much.
[ts4.mm.bing.net image 266x300]
You sire owe me another coffee, keyboard, and monitor.

Yeah I ROFLed at that pic myself.

 
2013-02-09 11:12:19 PM

Hand Banana: ...That's like saying a fan of Family Guy is sexually attracted to Peter Griffin, ...


That would be silly, I'm attracted to Lois.
 
2013-02-09 11:26:04 PM
blue_2501:
Then why make a illegal game?  All fan fiction is illegal.  All fan-coded games is illegal and will be shut down EVERY SINGLE TIME!  I mean, they have to enforced the trademark, or they will lose the trademark status.  That's actually how it works legally.  Nintendo does this sort of thing all the time, even for things that they think are pretty cool.

So, why spend all of that time coding the stuff when you KNOW it's going to die a painful death?


Of course once you start leaning on your fans too hard, they're eventually going to decide "fark this" and move on to another fandom where they're allowed to express themselves.
 
2013-02-09 11:32:21 PM

Hand Banana: Do people here really think that the fans of the show are sexually attracted to ponies?


Not really, it's just a really easy way to troll fans of the show.  They're not dumb, they fully realize the difference between general fandoms and the deviant subculture every one generates.  Hell they're farkers so they probably have more than a few bizarre fetishes in their own closets.  They'll either play the clopping or the manliness card in order to provoke some responses, neither of which take a whole lot of effort on their part and are sure to get bites.
 
2013-02-09 11:48:27 PM

Mike_LowELL: I look at most human biology as "What helped us survive in the jungle?", but I'd be lying if I could figure what sexual selective trait that "attracted to a drawing of a cartoon horse" would fulfill.  For that reason, it's tough for me to make a judgment.  I dunno.  It may weird me out, and I think some of the candor people discuss their "sekrit love" with really weirds me out, but I'm hard-pressed to say that most of the deviance harms me or anyone else.  So obviously, if people are screwing kids, for instance, then we have a problem.  Consenting adults can pretty much do what they want, as far as I'm concerned.


We share as much with the bonobo as we do with chimps. Bonobos use sex for relieving social tension the way that chimps get aggressive. I would suggest that humans have sexual urges that often are non-reproductive because we obviously are descended from bonobos raping chimps.

Just kidding.

But seriously, sex is obviously hugely important in how we relate to ourselves and to the world. How many non-human female mammals retain secondary sexual characteristics when non-fertile? How many have, in fact, hidden fertility to the point where if you don't have a bunch of hoary knowledge to go on from previous generations you might not even understand how sex and reproduction are linked?

Human sexuality is so far removed from reproduction as to be virtually irrelevant to it. It is fascinating to follow the studies by anthropologists like Owen Lovejoy who is trying to link human sexuality with human bipedalism, or Helen Fischer who enjoys scanning the brains of people in mid-coitus and focuses on the neurochemistry of attraction and love.

There is no "normal" human sexuality except that promulgated by those who seek to control the most powerful urges we have. Because once you control who gets to fark whom or what, you can convince those people to surrender everything else. Biology, reproduction is just a red herring, it is something trotted out because of ignorance and the squik factor. Because people always try to say that they are the "norm" and everyone else "deviates" from it in some way, or are convinced that they are deviants and hide their nonreproductive but entirely human sexual urges from the world until they find a group to identify with.

If there are bronies who act that way I would suggest that it has nothing to do with sexuality like many people define it but simple coded behaviour that trips a sexual urge when confronted with certainemotional stimuli. And while it may be relatively rare in the larger population it is not "unnatural" any more than a big birthmark is "unnatural."
 
2013-02-10 12:05:03 AM
I'd say it has nothing to do with sexual interest in ponies, and more to do with pretending (or convincing themselves) to be totally into a girls' cartoon so they can have something to talk about with girls. It's a sort of transparent, sad, and false way to connect with members of the opposite sex, and in more sinister situations, to connect with younger members of the opposite sex.

In this way, it's not much different than being a fan of Vampire: The Masquerade. I knew way too many guys who were into it only because it gave them the opportunity to "pretend" to bite girls and put their hands on them. It was pathetic to watch these guys stumbling all over themselves trying to make the story go in a direction that would allow them to accidentally touch a boob or suck a neck.

Fellas... Just talk to these girls. Say hello. Introduce yourself. Ask them if they'd like to go to dinner. You don't have to pretend to be into rainbow ponies or that you want to play vampires with them. Really.

The next step is guys who suddenly really get into stuffed animal tea parties, and start organizing them to meet chicks. But no! No! It's TOTALLY about the tea and wit.

/Yes, I actually watched a couple episodes of MLP just to see if it was some wellspring of adult snark.
//It wasn't. It was a cute pony show for little girls that used the occasional pop culture reference to keep adults from falling asleep when they watched with their daughters.
 
2013-02-10 12:09:42 AM

BattleFrenchie28: ZeroCorpse: ZeroCorpse: Bronies
Browncoats
Beliebers
Twi-Hards (Twilight fans)
Furries
Trekkers (1970s variety)
WoW zombies
Toddler Pageant Moms
Beanie Baby Collectors
Fans of TMZ

Give them their own island. Build a wall around it. Check back in 100 years and see what horrors they have spawned. Weaponize it. Rule the world.

Actually, let me amend that.
Leave the Browncoats and Trekkers (even the 1970s variety) out of it. It's just too cruel to put themme on an island with those people. Instead, give their spot to the Juggalos.

It's cool when you do it, right?


I'm not a Browncoat or a Trekker.  At worst, I'm an old-school Marvel Zombie, but I don't even collect comics. I read them them dispose of them, these days, so I'm hardly obsessive. I just remember a lot of what I read, whether it be comics or textbooks.

The reason I would let the Browncoats off, despite them being annoying as piss in the eye, is because they at least don't lose their ability to think clearly due to their obsession. The reason I'd let the old-school Trekkers off is because most of the 1970s variety are old now, and as nerd trailblazers I think they deserve to be left to die in peace.

Now, people who are fans of Voyager, on the other hand? They don't even get to the island. Leave them on the boat. Tell them they can't go back because it would violate the Prime Directive.
 
2013-02-10 12:19:34 AM

ZeroCorpse: I'd say it has nothing to do with sexual interest in ponies, and more to do with pretending (or convincing themselves) to be totally into a girls' cartoon so they can have something to talk about with girls. It's a sort of transparent, sad, and false way to connect with members of the opposite sex, and in more sinister situations, to connect with younger members of the opposite sex.


Well I'd say you're wrong. If I didn't like the show I wouldn't watch it, and the only reason I watch it is because I enjoy watching. I certainly don't do it to talk to girls, what kind of nonsense is that? Great pickup strategy there..."Hi there, I couldn't help notice you from across the bar and I was just wondering, do you like My Little Pony?". Good grief...

As for the "way to connect to younger girls" comment that's just more sensationalist BS. "Oh look he's an adult watching a cartoon so he must be a pervert". Because there's no possibility he just likes the show.
 
2013-02-10 12:26:24 AM

BolloxReader: We share as much with the bonobo as we do with chimps. Bonobos use sex for relieving social tension the way that chimps get aggressive. I would suggest that humans have sexual urges that often are non-reproductive because we obviously are descended from bonobos raping chimps.

Just kidding.

But seriously, sex is obviously hugely important in how we relate to ourselves and to the world. How many non-human female mammals retain secondary sexual characteristics when non-fertile? How many have, in fact, hidden fertility to the point where if you don't have a bunch of hoary knowledge to go on from previous generations you might not even understand how sex and reproduction are linked?

Human sexuality is so far removed from reproduction as to be virtually irrelevant to it. It is fascinating to follow the studies by anthropologists like Owen Lovejoy who is trying to link human sexuality with human bipedalism, or Helen Fischer who enjoys scanning the brains of people in mid-coitus and focuses on the neurochemistry of attraction and love.

There is no "normal" human sexuality except that promulgated by those who seek to control the most powerful urges we have. Because once you control who gets to fark whom or what, you can convince those people to surrender everything else. Biology, reproduction is just a red herring, it is something trotted out because of ignorance and the squik factor. Because people always try to say that they are the "norm" and everyone else "deviates" from it in some way, or are convinced that they are deviants and hide their nonreproductive but entirely human sexual urges from the world until they find a group to identify with.

If there are bronies who act that way I would suggest that it has nothing to do with sexuality like many people define it but simple coded behaviour that trips a sexual urge when confronted with certainemotional stimuli. And while it may be relatively rare in the larger population it is not "unnatural" any more than ...


Point taken.  I'm sure that it's far, far more complicated than anything I've considered.  And with that, I just take the point of view that there's no sense in trying to judge people for certain hard-wired sexual responses that have absolutely no bearing on my ability to live and function in the world.  Whatever they're into, they're into it.
 
2013-02-10 12:29:59 AM

Hand Banana: fans of Star Wars are fapping to Yoda.


www.cavemancircus.com

www.troll.me
 
2013-02-10 12:32:27 AM
t3.gstatic.com

/Ponies are heresy

//A pony once bit my sister
///No realli
 
2013-02-10 12:39:18 AM
I'm a huge brony, don't fap to the show or much really. Not a pedophile. I don't live in my parent's basement. I don't endorse people who ship ponies or fap to them. I do not endorse R34 MLP fan art. I just love the show and the community. Believe me there are the weirdos that you'll find in any fandom. There's man-children, neckbeards, and basement-dwellers indeed like there are with any group of anything period. We do some pretty awesome stuff though. The art, the music, and the charity the fandom has done is amazing. I just wish some people would take it less seriously, including Hasbro. We've already given them million upon millions in profit they'd otherwise have never received, they should be grateful.

/just vectors ponies and makes music
 
2013-02-10 12:43:18 AM

Hand Banana: Do people here really think that the fans of the show are sexually attracted to ponies? That's like saying a fan of Family Guy is sexually attracted to Peter Griffin, or fans of Star Wars are fapping to Yoda. There are a few weirdos who might, and that goes for any show ever made but for the majority of fans of FIM it has absolutely nothing to do with sex in any way. It's just an entertaining cartoon.

I know most of the people saying stuff like that are trolls but I get the feeling a lot of them are serious.

/love the show
//not attracted to cartoon horses


Aw, you're cute. You remind me of the furries in 1999 who used to insist "WE'RE NOT PERVS!".

And we all found out that they lied, didn't we?
 
2013-02-10 12:49:19 AM

TV's Vinnie: Hand Banana: Do people here really think that the fans of the show are sexually attracted to ponies? That's like saying a fan of Family Guy is sexually attracted to Peter Griffin, or fans of Star Wars are fapping to Yoda. There are a few weirdos who might, and that goes for any show ever made but for the majority of fans of FIM it has absolutely nothing to do with sex in any way. It's just an entertaining cartoon.

I know most of the people saying stuff like that are trolls but I get the feeling a lot of them are serious.

/love the show
//not attracted to cartoon horses

Aw, you're cute. You remind me of the furries in 1999 who used to insist "WE'RE NOT PERVS!".

And we all found out that they lied, didn't we?


See, I don't mind it when it is obvious trolling like this. It's the loons on places like Fox news and it's followers that truly believe that nonsense that makes me sad.
 
2013-02-10 01:34:29 AM

Hand Banana: TV's Vinnie: Hand Banana: Do people here really think that the fans of the show are sexually attracted to ponies? That's like saying a fan of Family Guy is sexually attracted to Peter Griffin, or fans of Star Wars are fapping to Yoda. There are a few weirdos who might, and that goes for any show ever made but for the majority of fans of FIM it has absolutely nothing to do with sex in any way. It's just an entertaining cartoon.

I know most of the people saying stuff like that are trolls but I get the feeling a lot of them are serious.

/love the show
//not attracted to cartoon horses

Aw, you're cute. You remind me of the furries in 1999 who used to insist "WE'RE NOT PERVS!".

And we all found out that they lied, didn't we?

See, I don't mind it when it is obvious trolling like this. It's the loons on places like Fox news and it's followers that truly believe that nonsense that makes me sad.


Who's trolling? Furries used to use the same tactics of denial, but the evidence was just too frequent, too obvious, and too undeniable.
 
2013-02-10 01:39:50 AM
Troll away. How can MLP be gayer than hordes of muscular, sweaty men in tight outfits jumping on top of each other like in the Super Bowl most of you recently creamed yourselves over? I call shenanigans.
 
2013-02-10 01:42:40 AM
jesseedwards.net
On the gay scale MLP=3 NFL=8
 
2013-02-10 02:36:09 AM

Doctor Jellyfinger: Troll away. How can MLP be gayer than hordes of muscular, sweaty men in tight outfits jumping on top of each other like in the Super Bowl most of you recently creamed yourselves over? I call shenanigans.


but using that logic, anyone who throws out 'military bronies' is double gay?
 
2013-02-10 04:33:29 AM

albuquerquehalsey: Doctor Jellyfinger: Troll away. How can MLP be gayer than hordes of muscular, sweaty men in tight outfits jumping on top of each other like in the Super Bowl most of you recently creamed yourselves over? I call shenanigans.

but using that logic, anyone who throws out 'military bronies' is double gay?


It's funny how they use "military bronies" as proof of their masculinity, as if every single person in the military is a fighter as opposed to the more likely scenario that these bronies in uniform are just cooks or transport or maintenance.

Anyone who went out on patrol with a Rainbow Dash insignia on their uniform would have the sh*t chewed out of them by their C.O. *IF* they make it back to their firebase.
 
2013-02-10 04:59:28 AM
Stop linking to that shiatfest known as kotaku, especially when relating to indie devs or 4chan.

Sucks to hear this news. I remember watching some gameplay demos of it on youtube more than a year ago and the potential was clearly there.
Guys, if you insist on using copywrited source material, DO NOT MAKE IT PUBLIC UNTIL IT'S DONE!

/looking at you, Crimson Echoes
 
2013-02-10 05:38:34 AM
They're not pedophiles. Weirdos, yes. But not pedophiles.

If you want to see what the fandom is all about, take a visit to the 4chan mlp board and judge for yourself. (NSFW) 4chan is where the fandom originated.
 
2013-02-10 09:00:38 AM

spamdog: take a visit to the 4chan mlp board and judge for yourself. (NSFW) 4chan is where the fandom originated.


Uh, hate to break it to you, but that makes no sense.

How could there be an /mlp/ before My Little Pony was a thing?

It started on /b/ or /v/ didn't it? another chan, anyway. Moot got pissed off at it, and made a quarantine board: /mlp/

And the denizens of /mlp/ are really just /b/tards who don't feel like getting some of their spoofed IPs banned for posting pink pony pictures.
 
2013-02-10 09:23:51 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: This proves that Hasbro is finally getting serious about taking their show back from adult male pedophiles and giving back to little girls.



Lol.  HEY, LOOK EVERYBODY!

A socially awkward nerd who posts on Fark is making fun of other socially awkward nerds who like a cartoon.

Why, this will surely demonstrate his utter superiority in the nerd culture and the nerd rabble will heap[ praise and delight on him and this will surely make him the alpha nerd among the nerd females.

Surely.
 
2013-02-10 11:43:50 AM

ZeroCorpse: ZeroCorpse: Bronies
Browncoats
Beliebers
Twi-Hards (Twilight fans)
Furries
Trekkers (1970s variety)
WoW zombies
Toddler Pageant Moms
Beanie Baby Collectors
Fans of TMZ

Give them their own island. Build a wall around it. Check back in 100 years and see what horrors they have spawned. Weaponize it. Rule the world.

Actually, let me amend that.
Leave the Browncoats and Trekkers (even the 1970s variety) out of it. It's just too cruel to put them on an island with those people. Instead, give their spot to the Juggalos.


Pfft...Juggalos would just beat the crap out of everybody else in that group.  It would be like throwing Hell's Angels at a Furry Convention.

Actually, that would be pretty funny.
 
2013-02-10 11:49:37 AM

blue_2501: Pfft...Juggalos would just beat the crap out of everybody else in that group.  It would be like throwing Hell's Angels at a Furry Convention.


Oh, bullcrap.  Juggalos are Internet tough.  They wouldn't stand a chance IRL.

It's the pageant moms you have to be afraid of.  Those chicks fight dirty.
 
2013-02-10 12:52:19 PM

TV's Vinnie: Hand Banana: TV's Vinnie: Hand Banana: Do people here really think that the fans of the show are sexually attracted to ponies? That's like saying a fan of Family Guy is sexually attracted to Peter Griffin, or fans of Star Wars are fapping to Yoda. There are a few weirdos who might, and that goes for any show ever made but for the majority of fans of FIM it has absolutely nothing to do with sex in any way. It's just an entertaining cartoon.

I know most of the people saying stuff like that are trolls but I get the feeling a lot of them are serious.

/love the show
//not attracted to cartoon horses

Aw, you're cute. You remind me of the furries in 1999 who used to insist "WE'RE NOT PERVS!".

And we all found out that they lied, didn't we?

See, I don't mind it when it is obvious trolling like this. It's the loons on places like Fox news and it's followers that truly believe that nonsense that makes me sad.

Who's trolling? Furries used to use the same tactics of denial, but the evidence was just too frequent, too obvious, and too undeniable.


Yes because watching a TV show once a week is totally the same thing as dressing up in fur suits. You're really good at this!
 
2013-02-10 01:01:39 PM

Theaetetus: blue_2501: So, why spend all of that time coding the stuff when you KNOW it's going to die a painful death?

  (i) You think you have some legitimate fair use/parody/"but we're a non-profit!" argument. You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time;
  (ii) You think that you can capitalize on the popularity of the IP you're copying to get attention, and once you get the cease & desist, you slap on the new artwork and come out with a "My Little Horsies: Magic Friendship Fight" game trying to skirt around the C&D. You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time;
  (iii) You think that you can get media attention and support from the community, because your game will be soooooo great that Hasbro will  have to give in! You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time; and
  (iv) You're doing it for the press and media attention, but then you'll drop the IP completely and come out with an entirely new property, hoping that enough of the media attention carries over to your new effort. If you're really smart, you were  already working on new, non-parody, completely independent artwork and can release the new version within a few weeks.

Number iv could actually work.


Just to be clear. You propose an answer for some question and then agree with yourself that it's a great idea.
 
2013-02-10 01:50:27 PM

TV's Vinnie: LordJiro: I'm holding out judgment 'til I get a citation. If it's true, then yeah, the ManeSix devs need at least a good dopeslap.

People put games up on Gamespot, and in return Gamespot gives the devs money for every download, even for the "free" games. Gamespot looks at it like advertising to come to their site. A MLP game would have been an advert Bonanza for Gamespot.

When Hasbro found out, they decided to start grasping the reigns a bit tighter (pun intended). This was why they also sent DCMAs to You Tube to take down the "Friendship is Witchcraft" parodies.

The bronies only have themselves to blame for this.


Not that I don't believe you, but I'd still like a link. All I can find is an article on Gamespot ABOUT the game, didn't see any mention of it being hosted there.
 
2013-02-10 02:08:12 PM

Theaetetus: blue_2501: So, why spend all of that time coding the stuff when you KNOW it's going to die a painful death?

  (i) You think you have some legitimate fair use/parody/"but we're a non-profit!" argument. You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time;
  (ii) You think that you can capitalize on the popularity of the IP you're copying to get attention, and once you get the cease & desist, you slap on the new artwork and come out with a "My Little Horsies: Magic Friendship Fight" game trying to skirt around the C&D. You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time;
  (iii) You think that you can get media attention and support from the community, because your game will be soooooo great that Hasbro will  have to give in! You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time; and
  (iv) You're doing it for the press and media attention, but then you'll drop the IP completely and come out with an entirely new property, hoping that enough of the media attention carries over to your new effort. If you're really smart, you were  already working on new, non-parody, completely independent artwork and can release the new version within a few weeks.

Number iv could actually work.


Because you're a copyright lawyer who has the mindset that all things are owned, everything is derivative, and you need to pump up those billable hours/earn your retainer? Oh, and the public domain can go fark itself since it hasn't seen anything enter that hasn't been immediately pulled back out again. Fark, we're still farking fighting about the goddamn Wizard of Oz.

Honestly, it's shiat like this, the chrono trigger sequel, and mountains of fan created content that demonstrate that you don't need copyright to create. And that shiatbags like you, Thaetus, and the waffles in the legal departments ruin good things.
 
2013-02-10 02:15:24 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Theaetetus: blue_2501: So, why spend all of that time coding the stuff when you KNOW it's going to die a painful death?

  (i) You think you have some legitimate fair use/parody/"but we're a non-profit!" argument. You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time;
  (ii) You think that you can capitalize on the popularity of the IP you're copying to get attention, and once you get the cease & desist, you slap on the new artwork and come out with a "My Little Horsies: Magic Friendship Fight" game trying to skirt around the C&D. You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time;
  (iii) You think that you can get media attention and support from the community, because your game will be soooooo great that Hasbro will  have to give in! You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time; and
  (iv) You're doing it for the press and media attention, but then you'll drop the IP completely and come out with an entirely new property, hoping that enough of the media attention carries over to your new effort. If you're really smart, you were  already working on new, non-parody, completely independent artwork and can release the new version within a few weeks.

Number iv could actually work.

Just to be clear. You propose an answer for some question and then agree with yourself that it's a great idea.


Because Thaeteus has this idea that Copyright is God. Along with Patents. It's really sad. He'll say that patents need adjusting, but it's honestly like talking to a fundamentalist. You'll ask, "Hey Thaeteus, why does copyright end up pulling such awful shiat in allowing ridiculous times of ownership, and counter the development of ideas, execution, and enrichment of the public domain."
And you'll get the answer, "Because Copyright works in mysterious ways, don't worry. Copyright is good and just. It will all work out in the end. Plus these fools are apostates and do not follow the true method of creating completely OC, despite evidence all throughout history that great artists stole shiat all the time."
 
2013-02-10 02:18:34 PM

Hand Banana: Yes because watching a TV show once a week is totally the same thing as dressing up in fur suits.


To be fair here, I'd wager that furries != fursuiting pervs just the same as bronies != clopping pervs, save for an admitted small yet frequently more visible contingent on either side.
 
2013-02-10 02:19:56 PM

Kinek: Theaetetus: blue_2501: So, why spend all of that time coding the stuff when you KNOW it's going to die a painful death?

  (i) You think you have some legitimate fair use/parody/"but we're a non-profit!" argument. You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time;
  (ii) You think that you can capitalize on the popularity of the IP you're copying to get attention, and once you get the cease & desist, you slap on the new artwork and come out with a "My Little Horsies: Magic Friendship Fight" game trying to skirt around the C&D. You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time;
  (iii) You think that you can get media attention and support from the community, because your game will be soooooo great that Hasbro will  have to give in! You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time; and
  (iv) You're doing it for the press and media attention, but then you'll drop the IP completely and come out with an entirely new property, hoping that enough of the media attention carries over to your new effort. If you're really smart, you were  already working on new, non-parody, completely independent artwork and can release the new version within a few weeks.

Number iv could actually work.

Because you're a copyright lawyer who has the mindset that all things are owned, everything is derivative, and you need to pump up those billable hours/earn your retainer? Oh, and the public domain can go fark itself since it hasn't seen anything enter that hasn't been immediately pulled back out again. Fark, we're still farking fighting about the goddamn Wizard of Oz.

Honestly, it's shiat like this, the chrono trigger sequel, and mountains of fan created content that demonstrate that you don't need copyright to create. And that shiatbags like you, Thaetus, and the waffles in the legal departments ruin good things.


Excuse me. PATENT lawyer. Same bag of shiat, slightly different label.
 
2013-02-10 02:28:03 PM

ds_4815: Hand Banana: Yes because watching a TV show once a week is totally the same thing as dressing up in fur suits.

To be fair here, I'd wager that furries != fursuiting pervs just the same as bronies != clopping pervs, save for an admitted small yet frequently more visible contingent on either side.


You're mostly right. Most furries don't fursuit, though it may have something to do with expense (Most suits cost as much as a used car).

The question really is, when you have a group of people passionate about anything, and when you coincide that with the natural tendency to be sexual, or to sexualize, does the object of passion happen to incite the sexuality? Or simply be in the line of fire at the time? I'd venture that it's not so much that MLP passion causes sexualized ponies, or that Bronies are inherently perverts, but more along the lines of ANYTHING can be sexualized.

Think about Bananas. How many people are fruitfacefarkers?
 
2013-02-10 02:55:40 PM

Theaetetus: blue_2501: So, why spend all of that time coding the stuff when you KNOW it's going to die a painful death?

  (i) You think you have some legitimate fair use/parody/"but we're a non-profit!" argument. You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time;
  (ii) You think that you can capitalize on the popularity of the IP you're copying to get attention, and once you get the cease & desist, you slap on the new artwork and come out with a "My Little Horsies: Magic Friendship Fight" game trying to skirt around the C&D. You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time;
  (iii) You think that you can get media attention and support from the community, because your game will be soooooo great that Hasbro will  have to give in! You're wrong, but you don't know that, so you waste the time; and
  (iv) You're doing it for the press and media attention, but then you'll drop the IP completely and come out with an entirely new property, hoping that enough of the media attention carries over to your new effort. If you're really smart, you were  already working on new, non-parody, completely independent artwork and can release the new version within a few weeks.

Number iv could actually work.


Again, in opposition to the controlling bit of farkwaddery that Thaeteus represents, behold,  Derivative, art.

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2013-02-10 02:59:30 PM
The brony phenomenon is an essentially feminine one. I'm not saying it is for girls, far from it. However, the patterns of behavior within the fandom (shipping, fanfiction, strong identification with particular characters,etc) are more typical of female-dominated fandoms. Whether male fans adopt these feminine patterns because it is a show aimed at females, or if men with a more feminine mindset are drawn to the show, is a question that probably doesn't have an answer.

This ties into one of the darker sides of the fandom: the so-called "cloppers" (that is, people who are attracted to the characters). Even this aspect follows a more feminine pattern of attraction. Studies have shown, on average, that women are more attracted to voice, personality, and trappings beyond physical appearance. Likewise, cloppers are attracted not to the fact they are horses, but to what the characters represent as personality archetypes.

Some fans recognize the weirdness of being attracted to a horse, even if you're more attracted to the humanlike personality said horse represents. For that reason, "humanized" versions of the characters are quite common. That is, artistic representations of what the character might look like were they human. Humanizations are interesting as they show their own series of tropes for the individual characters that are almost universally agreed upon, such as Twilight Sparkle being of non-white ethnicity (southeast asian most prominent), or Pinkie Pie being slightly pudgy.

Of course, not all bronies are into this. In fact, it's probably a relatively small part. Most are quite unnerved by the "clop" aspect of the fandom. My own girlfriend finds the very idea that ponies might have sexuality disturbing, while I look at it like an alien culture that just happens to be quadruped. You can't lump all bronies together because like any fandom, there are weird people and fairly normal people. I could write a whole essay dissecting brony culture, but it would likely end up as apologetics since I am a part of it. Long story short (TOO LATE!) clop is not what it's all about, the reason for clop is because of attraction to personality over physicality, and adult girls are part of the fandom too.

/only went to /mlp/ once
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2013-02-10 03:09:07 PM

Olympic Trolling Judge: blue_2501: Pfft...Juggalos would just beat the crap out of everybody else in that group.  It would be like throwing Hell's Angels at a Furry Convention.

Oh, bullcrap.  Juggalos are Internet tough.  They wouldn't stand a chance IRL.

It's the pageant moms you have to be afraid of.  Those chicks fight dirty.


I've met some RL Juggalos.  No they aren't.  I put them in the bracket of "more likely to win in a fight (or start one) than the average population", and most of the rest of that list would fall under "less likely".

Of course, I'm not arguing against the pageant moms, either.
 
2013-02-10 03:09:22 PM

FishStampede: /only went to /mlp/ once
// homerbackingthroughbushes.gif


denver.mylittlefacewhen.com

There truly is one for everything.

/Well-put, by the way
 
2013-02-10 03:21:45 PM

LordJiro: Not that I don't believe you, but I'd still like a link. All I can find is an article on Gamespot ABOUT the game, didn't see any mention of it being hosted there.


Sir Whitey, stuff like this doesn't get put out in a press release. All I can say is that there are sources on the inside.
 
2013-02-10 03:23:52 PM

TV's Vinnie: LordJiro: Not that I don't believe you, but I'd still like a link. All I can find is an article on Gamespot ABOUT the game, didn't see any mention of it being hosted there.

Sir Whitey, stuff like this doesn't get put out in a press release. All I can say is that there are sources on the inside.


So what you're saying is that you don't have a source. And you're full of bullshiat.
 
2013-02-10 03:23:53 PM

Hand Banana: TV's Vinnie: Hand Banana: TV's Vinnie: Hand Banana: Do people here really think that the fans of the show are sexually attracted to ponies? That's like saying a fan of Family Guy is sexually attracted to Peter Griffin, or fans of Star Wars are fapping to Yoda. There are a few weirdos who might, and that goes for any show ever made but for the majority of fans of FIM it has absolutely nothing to do with sex in any way. It's just an entertaining cartoon.

I know most of the people saying stuff like that are trolls but I get the feeling a lot of them are serious.

/love the show
//not attracted to cartoon horses

Aw, you're cute. You remind me of the furries in 1999 who used to insist "WE'RE NOT PERVS!".

And we all found out that they lied, didn't we?

See, I don't mind it when it is obvious trolling like this. It's the loons on places like Fox news and it's followers that truly believe that nonsense that makes me sad.

Who's trolling? Furries used to use the same tactics of denial, but the evidence was just too frequent, too obvious, and too undeniable.

Yes because watching a TV show once a week is totally the same thing as dressing up in fur suits. You're really good at this!


Another white knight, I see. Must get tiring defending the freaks every day for years.

i46.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-10 04:44:34 PM

TV's Vinnie: Hand Banana: TV's Vinnie: Hand Banana: TV's Vinnie: Hand Banana: Do people here really think that the fans of the show are sexually attracted to ponies? That's like saying a fan of Family Guy is sexually attracted to Peter Griffin, or fans of Star Wars are fapping to Yoda. There are a few weirdos who might, and that goes for any show ever made but for the majority of fans of FIM it has absolutely nothing to do with sex in any way. It's just an entertaining cartoon.

I know most of the people saying stuff like that are trolls but I get the feeling a lot of them are serious.

/love the show
//not attracted to cartoon horses

Aw, you're cute. You remind me of the furries in 1999 who used to insist "WE'RE NOT PERVS!".

And we all found out that they lied, didn't we?

See, I don't mind it when it is obvious trolling like this. It's the loons on places like Fox news and it's followers that truly believe that nonsense that makes me sad.

Who's trolling? Furries used to use the same tactics of denial, but the evidence was just too frequent, too obvious, and too undeniable.

Yes because watching a TV show once a week is totally the same thing as dressing up in fur suits. You're really good at this!

Another white knight, I see. Must get tiring defending the freaks every day for years.

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Really. So. Should I start getting out the gay pride parade photos and suggest that it's okay to discriminate against them based on that? Or maybe frat parties?
 
2013-02-10 05:53:30 PM

Kinek: Really. So. Should I start getting out the gay pride parade photos and suggest that it's okay to discriminate against them based on that? Or maybe frat parties?


Yeah. Because being put off by doughy greasy neckbeards rolling in a stinky furpile means I'm a homophobe. Whatever. Why not?
 
2013-02-10 06:08:40 PM

Gurlugon: Stop ... fapping to horses.


Fixed your status update for you.

/let us know when you're back
 
2013-02-10 07:23:58 PM

TV's Vinnie: Kinek: Really. So. Should I start getting out the gay pride parade photos and suggest that it's okay to discriminate against them based on that? Or maybe frat parties?

Yeah. Because being put off by doughy greasy neckbeards rolling in a stinky furpile means I'm a homophobe. Whatever. Why not?


I can personally not enjoy the concept of leather bondage, gay sex, spinach, or watching fox news. That doesn't mean that I believe these things should be outlawed, taunted, or discriminated against because I, personally, may not like them. It just means that I won't participate in any of those things. Doesn't mean I need to go out of my way to be a dick.
 
2013-02-10 07:37:34 PM
If I was one of the devs, I'd zip up the entire project and just post to bittorrent.  Fark 'em.
 
2013-02-10 07:42:57 PM

Kinek: TV's Vinnie: Kinek: Really. So. Should I start getting out the gay pride parade photos and suggest that it's okay to discriminate against them based on that? Or maybe frat parties?

Yeah. Because being put off by doughy greasy neckbeards rolling in a stinky furpile means I'm a homophobe. Whatever. Why not?

I can personally not enjoy the concept of leather bondage, gay sex, spinach, or watching fox news. That doesn't mean that I believe these things should be outlawed, taunted, or discriminated against because I, personally, may not like them. It just means that I won't participate in any of those things. Doesn't mean I need to go out of my way to be a dick.


IMO, the more you insist on flaunting your weirdness, the more I have as much equal right to laugh at you and look at you like a freak. I have no obligation to condone your weirdness with silence.
i45.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-10 08:27:07 PM

TV's Vinnie: IMO, the more you insist on flaunting your weirdness, the more I have as much equal right to laugh at you and look at you like a freak. I have no obligation to condone your weirdness with silence.
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I'm not saying you're a closeted furry with some serious self-loathing to work out.

I'm just saying you have an awfully wide stance in convention center bathrooms.
 
2013-02-10 08:35:10 PM

Olympic Trolling Judge: TV's Vinnie: IMO, the more you insist on flaunting your weirdness, the more I have as much equal right to laugh at you and look at you like a freak. I have no obligation to condone your weirdness with silence.
[i45.tinypic.com image 228x319]

I'm not saying you're a closeted furry with some serious self-loathing to work out.

I'm just saying you have an awfully wide stance in convention center bathrooms.


Just speaking truth to pee yoo!
 
2013-02-10 08:42:14 PM
You know what, it's OK to make fun of these people. Really, it is. I think a lot of people get spooked by all the whining about persecution and talk about acceptance.

You're not intolerant, are you? You don't hate people for being different, do you?
A lot of these guys latch onto that guilt to act really entitled and douchey towards everyone else. The fans who aren't assholes keep it on the down-low, don't make their steam or facebook profiles pony pictures, and are apologetic about the rest of the fandom.
I really wonder what these people will do once this bandwagon is over.
 
2013-02-11 03:11:09 AM
Somehow, I knew this would happen.

Just wondered why Hasbro waited so long. If that looking to get kickbacks from Gamespot is true, then I want to go choke a few biatches.

Also, I'm mainly a brony because I enjoy the show. It feels like Animaniacs, int hat there's stuff in there that it takes an adult sense of humor to understand. As a lover of animation, I enjoy the work they put into it. Of course, I also enjoy the fan-made stuff (Picture Perfect Pony, for example). It is one of the few fandoms outside of 'Furry' that really does encourage people to make their own stories and content.

No, I have no desire to have sexual relations with a horse. Or children. And yes, I can look normal in public. ...sorta.

/farking electric razor broke. I look like an unshaven hobo D:
 
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