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(Yahoo)   "This verdict shows that judges' understanding of technology is weak," Eid said. "The judges do not realize that one wrong post on a website does not mean you have to block the entire website"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 58
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2013-02-09 03:19:30 PM
for a second there, I thought this was something Disney or comcast had done to a US citizen...then I read the article and realized it was a third world nation biatchin' about youtube.
 
2013-02-09 05:04:07 PM
If they really want to be effective at stopping the internet, they should consider banning electricity.
 
2013-02-09 05:18:09 PM
Weaver95: for a second there, I thought this was something Disney or comcast had done to a US citizen...then I read the article and realized it was a third world nation biatchin' about youtube.

well, if SOPA had passed...
 
2013-02-09 05:23:52 PM
But; how will we mock their little girl diddling, goat farking, rum swilling, bacon eating prophet now?

/ how, I say?

// I keed, I keed
 
2013-02-09 05:27:33 PM
Judges don't have to be smart about everything; the lawyers making the motions and arguments have to be smart about their subject.

Government lawyers are usually not the best and the brightest.

People arguing from religious zeal or political motivation usually do not objectively investigate the topic.

And Bob's your uncle.
 
2013-02-09 05:28:42 PM
I never understand why any of these Deities need humans to protect their honor. If anyone's God was so upset at his portrayal, couldn't he just take care of it himself?
 
2013-02-09 05:28:47 PM
Can't sleep, someone is wrong on the Internet!
 
2013-02-09 05:29:29 PM
Good luck with that.
 
2013-02-09 05:30:54 PM
Miss me yet?
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-09 05:34:15 PM

skinink: I never understand why any of these Deities need humans to protect their honor. If anyone's God was so upset at his portrayal, couldn't he just take care of it himself?


He's a busy guy, so his followers have to do it for Him.

No, really. Leave Him alone. Let Him sleep. This is something we can resolve ourselves.
 
2013-02-09 05:34:16 PM

Weaver95: for a second there, I thought this was something Disney or comcast had done to a US citizen...then I read the article and realized it was a third world nation biatchin' about youtube that if Disney or Comcast did something similar it get barely any attention because together they control the lion's share of US media.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_cross-ownership_in_the_United_Sta te s
 
2013-02-09 05:34:25 PM
IT'S GAY ALL OF IT!
 
2013-02-09 05:38:25 PM
Blocking YouTube might be easier to enforce, though it also can be circumvented by active Internet users.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-09 05:38:43 PM

skinink: I never understand why any of these Deities need humans to protect their honor. If anyone's God was so upset at his portrayal, couldn't he just take care of it himself?


What does god need with a starship???
 
2013-02-09 05:39:50 PM
Strange how people who submit to god's will need to block out so much of god's world.
 
2013-02-09 05:40:19 PM
Actually, I think it  could indicate a solid understanding.  Maybe.  Every time a controversial youtube video gets blocked, it seems to get resubmitted by a dozen new people.  Instead of playing whack-a-mole and trying to keep up with that, they ordered Youtube blocked entirely for 30 days.  Long enough that either the offending content will either fade away or move to so many other outlets that continuing to block Youtube would be pointless.
 
2013-02-09 05:41:23 PM
Someone should explain to the judge that the internet is a series of tubes.
 
2013-02-09 05:44:17 PM

thorthor: Someone should explain to the judge that the internet is a series of tubes.


yeah but there's like repeaters between the tubes
 
2013-02-09 05:45:46 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: Strange how people who submit to god's will need to block out so much of god's world.


God had the Devil create everything as...ummmm...a test. Like fossils. Or something.
 
2013-02-09 05:46:39 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: Strange how people who submit to god's will need to block out so much of god's world.


Free Will and all that. God's not going to command so you gotta pay attention and resist temptation or some such.
 
2013-02-09 05:49:13 PM
Judge Hassouna Tawfiq ordered YouTube blocked for carrying the film, which he described as "offensive to Islam and the Prophet (Muhammad). an example of how my people's culture can't go a day without flying off the handle at complete bullshiat, so this is for their own good until they grow the fark up."

FTFY.
 
2013-02-09 05:51:06 PM
Lawyer Mohammed Hamid Salim, who filed the case against the Egyptian government, alleged the film constitutes a threat to Egypt's security

If a poorly made video is a threat to your nation's security then your nation has WAY bigger problems than YouTube.
 
2013-02-09 05:51:51 PM

thorthor: Someone should explain to the judge that the internet is a series of tubes.


I hate how "video series for cleaning my tubes" got misunderstood into "a series of tubes." Goddamn legislators and their selective hearing. The argument was for more and unfettered access to porn as a basic American right.
 
2013-02-09 05:52:51 PM

jtown: Actually, I think it  could indicate a solid understanding.  Maybe.  Every time a controversial youtube video gets blocked, it seems to get resubmitted by a dozen new people.  Instead of playing whack-a-mole and trying to keep up with that, they ordered Youtube blocked entirely for 30 days.  Long enough that either the offending content will either fade away or move to so many other outlets that continuing to block Youtube would be pointless.



Except the riots had already occurred. This is more of a punishment to youtube than the poster of the video.

/just who was on trial here?
 
2013-02-09 05:54:02 PM

Rich Cream: This is more of a punishment to youtube than the poster of the video prevention of further viewings.


ftfm
 
2013-02-09 06:00:48 PM

skinink: I never understand why any of these Deities need humans to protect their honor. If anyone's God was so upset at his portrayal, couldn't he just take care of it himself?


When I pray to god, I always says something really blasphemous first to get his attention.
 
2013-02-09 06:06:38 PM

gibbon1: skinink: I never understand why any of these Deities need humans to protect their honor. If anyone's God was so upset at his portrayal, couldn't he just take care of it himself?

When I pray to god, I always says something really blasphemous first to get his attention.


Oooh, clever! I mean the guy gets billions of emails a day, ALL from crazy people. Gotta stand out.

/Just make sure your prayer doesn't contain something like 'v1agrA', or it might get flagged as spam.
 
2013-02-09 06:08:07 PM
Here's the complete list of things that do NOT cause butt hurt to islamic fundamentalists and rioting:

...
 
2013-02-09 06:15:49 PM

fusillade762: Lawyer Mohammed Hamid Salim, who filed the case against the Egyptian government, alleged the film constitutes a threat to Egypt's security

If a poorly made video is a threat to your nation's security then your nation has WAY bigger problems than YouTube.


Perhaps they should put some fluoride in the water, settle the population down a bit. Maybe a touch of Thorazine.
 
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2013-02-09 06:18:08 PM
I don't see judges failing to understand. It's technically feasible* to run a highly censored video service. I see them applying a policy that Americans don't like.

Analogies are easy to find. Many laws require people to be responsible letting others use their property. You can be liable for misuse of your car or gun, for example, even in cases of theft in some jurisdictions. Here we have a company being held responsible for third party use of its system.

* Example: When Flickr introduced videos they had an offshore team censoring new videos. The system showed each new video to somebody in Asia and the reviewer made sure it wasn't porn. This came to light when somebody asked why his private upload was being censored. While it's technically against the rules to upload private porn videos, nobody should have been able to see them to censor them. The review process was bypassing privacy settings. Flickr staff said they would respect settings in the future and not review private videos.
 
2013-02-09 06:18:39 PM

OgreMagi: Here's the complete list of things that do NOT cause butt hurt to islamic fundamentalists and rioting:

...


Nah, those guys HATE ellipses!
 
2013-02-09 06:21:50 PM

gibbon1: When I pray to god, I always says something really blasphemous first to get his attention.


Praying is stupid. You think God doesn't know everything that's going in your life? He's GOD! He'll intervene when He wants to. It's not like He needs the bat signal or anything.
 
2013-02-09 06:27:14 PM
Once thing is fairly obvious. whatever brand of "God" seems to want seems to coincide with what his most rabidly fervent and ignorant followers want-control of thought.

And those too lazy to think for themselves eat it right up.
 
2013-02-09 06:31:23 PM

Ed Finnerty: Kumana Wanalaia: Strange how people who submit to god's will need to block out so much of god's world.

God had the Devil create everything as...ummmm...a test. Like fossils. Or something.


Science will never explain all scientific questions. You might not like the answers, but religion can explain all religion's questions. Don't throw stones from a glass house.
 
2013-02-09 06:38:57 PM

andyfromfl: but religion can explain all religion's questions.


So can a decent book on political science, sociology, or philosophy.
 
2013-02-09 06:41:24 PM

cptjeff: andyfromfl: but religion can explain all religion's questions.

So can a decent book on political science, sociology, or philosophy.


You're just determined, aren't you.

Give a single amazon link to a a book on one of those subjects that explains what our purpose in life is.
I don't expect a response. You'll read it and tell yourself that I'm some duped zealot and move on.
Eventually you'll figure out that I'm right- religion answers questions science doesn't ask, and vice versa.
 
2013-02-09 06:46:36 PM

andyfromfl: Ed Finnerty: Kumana Wanalaia: Strange how people who submit to god's will need to block out so much of god's world.

God had the Devil create everything as...ummmm...a test. Like fossils. Or something.

Science will never explain all scientific questions. You might not like the answers, but religion can explain all religion's questions. Don't throw stones from a glass house.


Science is, an incomplete, framework for understanding all things. Just because we haven't learned all there is to know doesn't mean we can't. It's a means to an end. And without you'd essentially still be in a cave bowing to a stone statute.

Religion answers it's own questions? Useful tautological system you have there. Anyone can create a crosed loop that answers all its own questions. But it's not true, there are MANY questions religious scholars debate. Why would an ostensibly good god allow evil to happen? Could god create a rock so heavy he couldn't lift it? If Jesus said blessed are the poor and the rich wont get into heaven, why is the church, one of the worlds richest organizations, lead by a man, covered in silk and gold and lives in a palace full of treasure? Religious scholars would never say they knew all the answers.

No one has all the answes. But there are ways to work out things we don't know. And that way isn't 'god did it'.
 
2013-02-09 06:52:24 PM
Good. Let them cut themselves off from the world and die of measles.
 
2013-02-09 06:53:11 PM

andyfromfl: Eventually you'll figure out that I'm right- religion answers questions science doesn't ask, and vice versa.


The problem isn't whether religion can answer questions that science can't, the problem is whether those answers are in any way accurate or a true reflection of reality.

And most of the time, they're not.

Science may not have all the answers, but the ones it does have are usually correct.
 
2013-02-09 06:53:21 PM

andyfromfl: cptjeff: andyfromfl: but religion can explain all religion's questions.

So can a decent book on political science, sociology, or philosophy.

You're just determined, aren't you.

Give a single amazon link to a a book on one of those subjects that explains what our purpose in life is.
I don't expect a response. You'll read it and tell yourself that I'm some duped zealot and move on.
Eventually you'll figure out that I'm right- religion answers questions science doesn't ask, and vice versa.


Well, actually, I'm a different poster than the one you were arguing with, but okay. Explains how religion formed out of ancestor worship and fear of death, grew into a power base and a source of human organization, and explores why human society is how it is.

Oh, you mean questions posed within the internal dynamics of your made up world rather than one that answers the more broad questions about who we are as a people and why society exists? Sorry.

Religion asks two things: Questions internal to itself, which obviously can't be answered by anything else, because they're meaningless outside of an artificial framework with no factual basis, or broad questions about human and societal behavior, which, though they're not well addressed by science, most definitely can be addressed with good political or sociological theory.
 
2013-02-09 06:58:41 PM
I'm sure losing Egypt's YouTube traffic for a month will cost Google millions of dollars. ;-)
 
2013-02-09 07:03:18 PM

BarkingUnicorn: I'm sure losing Egypt's YouTube traffic for a month will cost Google millions of dollars. ;-)


I was just thinking that Google must be hurting something fierce being unable to give free access to their massive library of videos to a tiny fraction of their usual userbase.  This is like one of those fines imposed upon some oil company...literally seconds of income...down the drain forever.
 
2013-02-09 07:07:56 PM

fusillade762: Lawyer Mohammed Hamid Salim, who filed the case against the Egyptian government, alleged the film constitutes a threat to Egypt's security

If a poorly made video is a threat to your nation's security then your nation has WAY bigger problems than YouTube.


And the video was out there for years and only had a few views until some Muslim cleric decided to show it off. Maybe they should ban Muslim clerics while they're at it.
 
2013-02-09 07:12:28 PM
The judges may not know much about technology, but they do know about how dictatorships posing as democracies work.
 
2013-02-09 07:21:38 PM
Whatever judge douchebag. Welcome to my ignore list!
 
2013-02-09 08:00:44 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Blocking YouTube might be easier to enforce, though it also can be circumvented by active Internet users.

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I don't like Treks.
 
2013-02-09 08:04:21 PM
Pretty tiresome listening to religions whining about this that and the other thing.
Difficulty, which is worse, being the target of jihad or dealing with a Pedophile?

I decided that neither was worth it.

there are other religions but given my luck I'm good just being the way I am
 
2013-02-09 08:06:44 PM

gibbon1: skinink: I never understand why any of these Deities need humans to protect their honor. If anyone's God was so upset at his portrayal, couldn't he just take care of it himself?

When I pray to god, I always says something really blasphemous first to get his attention.


Well good luck.  The universe is big with all those black holes causing massive explosions and eating galaxies and generally causing a big mess. Then there are those attention whore quasars making all that noise and flashing thousands to millions of times per second, and there are millions of those.   Yeah it needs to be something really bad, like eating pork or something.
 
2013-02-09 08:16:12 PM
Yep, that whole Arab Spring thing is making the whole middle east such a nice place.
 
2013-02-09 08:22:33 PM

randomjsa: Yep, that whole Arab Spring thing is making the whole middle east such a nice place.


Having been to the middle east a few times (Bahrain, UAE, Oman) I think they'd be better off dumping the Arab Spring and getting some Irish Spring instead.
 
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