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2013-02-09 12:06:54 PM
WSJ and NYPost are both owned by Murdoch, and he is not known for spending money.  Sometimes an image is just right.  Given that newspapers are shrinking and many of them get stories and photos from places like AP, Reuters, etc., this should not really be all that newsworthy.  It's not news.  IT'S FARK!!!!
 
2013-02-09 12:16:45 PM
www.idolol.com
 
2013-02-09 12:23:44 PM
thisisanoutrage.jpg
 
2013-02-09 12:30:49 PM
i224.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-09 12:31:30 PM
lazy editors are lazy?
 
2013-02-09 12:32:05 PM
also, it's a great photo.
 
2013-02-09 12:38:34 PM
Why is this "sad" subby?  It's a good image.
 
2013-02-09 12:42:11 PM
It's probably about the only picture from the region that doesn't look like this?
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-09 01:17:56 PM
I'm guessing AP photographer?
 
2013-02-09 02:11:16 PM

FlashHarry: also, it's a great photo.


FloydA: Why is this "sad" subby?  It's a good image.


I think it's a shiatty picture.  It gives no indication of how much snow is on the ground.  I've had it snow that heavy for about 5 minutes earlier this year and the storm left maybe 3 or 4 inches.
 
2013-02-09 02:26:18 PM
How homogenous lazy is MSM? The same photo is on the front page of the NYT, WSJ, WashPost, and NYPost

FTFY, Subs.
 
2013-02-09 02:29:26 PM

teto85: WSJ and NYPost are both owned by Murdoch, and he is not known for spending money.  Sometimes an image is just right.  Given that newspapers are shrinking and many of them get stories and photos from places like AP, Reuters, etc., this should not really be all that newsworthy.  It's not news.  IT'S FARK!!!!


NO U.   Murdoch isn't part of the mainstream MSM media1!!

Plus, they should have used this picture:
msnbcmedia3.msn.com
 
2013-02-09 02:32:20 PM
The naming of these minor storms is just silly.
 
2013-02-09 02:33:08 PM

12349876: FlashHarry: also, it's a great photo.

FloydA: Why is this "sad" subby?  It's a good image.

I think it's a shiatty picture.  It gives no indication of how much snow is on the ground.  I've had it snow that heavy for about 5 minutes earlier this year and the storm left maybe 3 or 4 inches.



I agree that if you were trying to judge snow depth from that picture, you'd get an under-estimate.  The photo certainly isn't the right choice to display that particular piece of information.

What makes it a good image is the framing and composition.  The guy pushing his way against the wind makes this a "human" story and draws readers' interest in a way that a yardstick shoved into a snowbank would not.
 
2013-02-09 02:35:12 PM
The lizardman overlords are not going to be happy at all when they find out about this, someone's in for a being eatening.
 
2013-02-09 02:44:21 PM

GAT_00: I'm guessing AP photographer?


Reuters.

s1.reutersmedia.net
 
2013-02-09 02:45:59 PM
farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2013-02-09 02:48:58 PM
People use umbrellas in snowstorms?
 
2013-02-09 02:49:12 PM

Gunny Walker: [farm6.staticflickr.com image 353x500]


"Dow Down 12" described as a "skid". How quaint.
 
2013-02-09 02:50:15 PM

Gunny Walker:


"New York's Picture Newspaper"?
 
2013-02-09 02:51:35 PM

FloydA: What makes it a good image is the framing and composition.  The guy pushing his way against the wind makes this a "human" story and draws readers' interest in a way that a yardstick shoved into a snowbank would not.


And that shark off to the right that is looking like he's gonna get all chompy if he don't get his dick sucked is a nice touch too!
 
2013-02-09 02:52:02 PM

Gunny Walker:


The days when a 12 point shift was big news for the Dow.

/boy the way Glen Miller played..
 
2013-02-09 02:52:05 PM
 
2013-02-09 02:52:58 PM

FloydA: What makes it a good image is the framing and composition. The guy pushing his way against the wind makes this a "human" story and draws readers' interest in a way that a yardstick shoved into a snowbank would not.


Don't think that's a dude, dude.
 
2013-02-09 02:55:35 PM
What is a newspaper?
 
2013-02-09 02:59:59 PM

GAT_00: I'm guessing AP photographer?


BINGO!! People are just plain stupid if they haven't figured this out by now. It's not homogeneity, it's not laziness, it's a good image taken by a photographer and sold by a wire service. It's not like these farkers use Obma's time machine, go into the future, grab all of the competitor's papers and then go back and plan theirs. This is a non-story and a half.

ONE bit of good news in this stupid article though: Only the New York Post uses the name 'Nemo' to refer to the blizzard...
 
2013-02-09 03:11:29 PM
OT, but I had two conservatives on Facebook raging about TWC naming the storm "Nemo".  They both said it made them 'sick'.  Is this code for "TWC is the devil because they are in league with gay-loving Disney"? 

I mean, it is kinda silly to name every freaking cloud that blows by, but the vitriol was, as usual, simply stunning.
 
2013-02-09 03:13:31 PM
And that's another reason why newspapers are dying.  Why should I pay a news aggregator to do it for me when I can do it myself?
 
2013-02-09 03:25:20 PM

KwameKilstrawberry: OT, but I had two conservatives on Facebook raging about TWC naming the storm "Nemo".  They both said it made them 'sick'.  Is this code for "TWC is the devil because they are in league with gay-loving Disney"? 

I mean, it is kinda silly to name every freaking cloud that blows by, but the vitriol was, as usual, simply stunning.


You should show em the link to this story then and point out how the only one of those 4 papers to use the name is the one owned by the guy who owns FOX News, blow their minds a little!
 
2013-02-09 03:44:53 PM

ThisIsntMe: What is a newspaper?


It's a copy of the previous day's news printed on wood paper, but that's not important right now.
 
2013-02-09 03:48:41 PM

KwameKilstrawberry: OT, but I had two conservatives on Facebook raging about TWC naming the storm "Nemo".  They both said it made them 'sick'.  Is this code for "TWC is the devil because they are in league with gay-loving Disney"? 

I mean, it is kinda silly to name every freaking cloud that blows by, but the vitriol was, as usual, simply stunning.


Huh? So what, it's a giant storm and people are calling it Nemo... I'm honestly not able to figure out what anyone would be upset about here. Can someone help me on this?
 
2013-02-09 04:07:14 PM

erik-k: Huh? So what, it's a giant storm and people are calling it Nemo... I'm honestly not able to figure out what anyone would be upset about here. Can someone help me on this?


Some folks speculated that climate changes may affect frequency and strength of storms like this one, newscasters use fancy new names instead of good old fashioned "blizzard of '76", voila newscasters are now supporting global warming.

Why yes, I do speak derpanese
 
2013-02-09 04:25:43 PM

martissimo: erik-k: Huh? So what, it's a giant storm and people are calling it Nemo... I'm honestly not able to figure out what anyone would be upset about here. Can someone help me on this?

Some folks speculated that climate changes may affect frequency and strength of storms like this one, newscasters use fancy new names instead of good old fashioned "blizzard of '76", voila newscasters are now supporting global warming.

Why yes, I do speak derpanese


It has more to do with the media inspiring fear to gain viewership.  Naming storms should be reserved for actual large problem storms.  If global warming will precipitate more and larger storms then there will be an increase in legitimately named storms as well.  If anything this waters down the impact that naming a storm has and will give a talking point to the climate change deniers.
 
2013-02-09 04:43:53 PM

erik-k: KwameKilstrawberry: OT, but I had two conservatives on Facebook raging about TWC naming the storm "Nemo".  They both said it made them 'sick'.  Is this code for "TWC is the devil because they are in league with gay-loving Disney"? 

I mean, it is kinda silly to name every freaking cloud that blows by, but the vitriol was, as usual, simply stunning.

Huh? So what, it's a giant storm and people are calling it Nemo... I'm honestly not able to figure out what anyone would be upset about here. Can someone help me on this?


I don't get it either. What's the harm? This is certainly affecting more people than a hurricane, though admittedly not to the same degree of mayhem/death. And why aren't tornados named? Because they're so frequent in the midwest in the spring and/or because they hit with little advance warning?

Jeez, name the major blizzards already. If this bothers you, you have some serious First World Problems.
 
2013-02-09 04:47:38 PM
It's fair and balanced on the cover of the WSJ and the NY Post. It's just liberal lies and propaganda on the cover of the NYT and the Washington Post.

Big Brother decides what opinions you are entitled to after he makes up the facts.
 
2013-02-09 05:02:41 PM

John Buck 41: erik-k: KwameKilstrawberry: OT, but I had two conservatives on Facebook raging about TWC naming the storm "Nemo".  They both said it made them 'sick'.  Is this code for "TWC is the devil because they are in league with gay-loving Disney"? 

I mean, it is kinda silly to name every freaking cloud that blows by, but the vitriol was, as usual, simply stunning.

Huh? So what, it's a giant storm and people are calling it Nemo... I'm honestly not able to figure out what anyone would be upset about here. Can someone help me on this?

I don't get it either. What's the harm? This is certainly affecting more people than a hurricane, though admittedly not to the same degree of mayhem/death. And why aren't tornados named? Because they're so frequent in the midwest in the spring and/or because they hit with little advance warning?

Jeez, name the major blizzards already. If this bothers you, you have some serious First World Problems.


The naming system is entirely arbitrary and severs no purpose in it's current form but for dramatization for media ratings.  It should be scrapped.  The NWS rightly barred their employees from ever using it.
 
2013-02-09 05:07:32 PM

mrlewish: And that's another reason why newspapers are dying.  Why should I pay a news aggregator to do it for me when I can do it myself?


Do what yourself?
 
2013-02-09 05:27:40 PM

GAT_00: John Buck 41: erik-k: KwameKilstrawberry: OT, but I had two conservatives on Facebook raging about TWC naming the storm "Nemo".  They both said it made them 'sick'.  Is this code for "TWC is the devil because they are in league with gay-loving Disney"? 

I mean, it is kinda silly to name every freaking cloud that blows by, but the vitriol was, as usual, simply stunning.

Huh? So what, it's a giant storm and people are calling it Nemo... I'm honestly not able to figure out what anyone would be upset about here. Can someone help me on this?

I don't get it either. What's the harm? This is certainly affecting more people than a hurricane, though admittedly not to the same degree of mayhem/death. And why aren't tornados named? Because they're so frequent in the midwest in the spring and/or because they hit with little advance warning?

Jeez, name the major blizzards already. If this bothers you, you have some serious First World Problems.

The naming system is entirely arbitrary and severs no purpose in it's current form but for dramatization for media ratings.  It should be scrapped.  The NWS rightly barred their employees from ever using it.


Aarrgghh. Isn't there a cloud you can yell at? Why is it so horrible TWC is referring to the northeast storm as Nemo and the upcoming midwest storm as Orko? Is the fact that it (allegedly, though it's not why I like watching TWC during major weather events) bumps ratings for TWC that big a deal? And again, why's it ok to name hurricanes but not blizzards and/or tornados?

//and I thought I was the grumpy old man
 
2013-02-09 05:37:48 PM

ThisIsntMe: What is a newspaper?


It's like a buggywhip, but with words on it.
 
2013-02-09 06:18:33 PM

lewismarktwo: martissimo: erik-k: Huh? So what, it's a giant storm and people are calling it Nemo... I'm honestly not able to figure out what anyone would be upset about here. Can someone help me on this?

Some folks speculated that climate changes may affect frequency and strength of storms like this one, newscasters use fancy new names instead of good old fashioned "blizzard of '76", voila newscasters are now supporting global warming.

Why yes, I do speak derpanese

It has more to do with the media inspiring fear to gain viewership.  Naming storms should be reserved for actual large problem storms.  If global warming will precipitate more and larger storms then there will be an increase in legitimately named storms as well.  If anything this waters down the impact that naming a storm has and will give a talking point to the climate change deniers.


Worth noting that it's not "the media" naming winter storms but just The Weather Channel. Pretty much everyone else in journalism and meteorology hates it.
 
2013-02-09 06:26:29 PM
Wire services. How do they work?

i.ytimg.com
 
2013-02-09 07:57:38 PM

John Buck 41: GAT_00: John Buck 41: erik-k: KwameKilstrawberry: OT, but I had two conservatives on Facebook raging about TWC naming the storm "Nemo".  They both said it made them 'sick'.  Is this code for "TWC is the devil because they are in league with gay-loving Disney"?

I mean, it is kinda silly to name every freaking cloud that blows by, but the vitriol was, as usual, simply stunning.

Huh? So what, it's a giant storm and people are calling it Nemo... I'm honestly not able to figure out what anyone would be upset about here. Can someone help me on this?

I don't get it either. What's the harm? This is certainly affecting more people than a hurricane, though admittedly not to the same degree of mayhem/death. And why aren't tornados named? Because they're so frequent in the midwest in the spring and/or because they hit with little advance warning?

Jeez, name the major blizzards already. If this bothers you, you have some serious First World Problems.

The naming system is entirely arbitrary and severs no purpose in it's current form but for dramatization for media ratings.  It should be scrapped.  The NWS rightly barred their employees from ever using it.

Aarrgghh. Isn't there a cloud you can yell at? Why is it so horrible TWC is referring to the northeast storm as Nemo and the upcoming midwest storm as Orko? Is the fact that it (allegedly, though it's not why I like watching TWC during major weather events) bumps ratings for TWC that big a deal? And again, why's it ok to name hurricanes but not blizzards and/or tornados?

//and I thought I was the grumpy old man


Perhaps this might help explain why people don't like it:

But winter storms and storm system don't get official names, for a variety of good reasons: they're unwieldy, uneven, often composed of more than one actual storm. It's hard to say where one ends and another begins; a single storm can be one of a number of different types, or a combination of types.(Warning: Gawker)
 
2013-02-09 08:17:02 PM
Some days the best pic jumps out. Conspiracy theories aside, the wire services offer many times the number of pictures than they did in the film era. And the illuminati does not usually care about news feature photos.
 
2013-02-09 08:29:21 PM
Anyone notice the wide variety of actual page 1 stories? That's not something I would have expected with shrinking newsrooms and greater dependance on syndicators.
 
2013-02-09 08:59:51 PM

oMaJoJ: John Buck 41: GAT_00: John Buck 41: erik-k: KwameKilstrawberry: OT, but I had two conservatives on Facebook raging about TWC naming the storm "Nemo".  They both said it made them 'sick'.  Is this code for "TWC is the devil because they are in league with gay-loving Disney"?

I mean, it is kinda silly to name every freaking cloud that blows by, but the vitriol was, as usual, simply stunning.

Huh? So what, it's a giant storm and people are calling it Nemo... I'm honestly not able to figure out what anyone would be upset about here. Can someone help me on this?

I don't get it either. What's the harm? This is certainly affecting more people than a hurricane, though admittedly not to the same degree of mayhem/death. And why aren't tornados named? Because they're so frequent in the midwest in the spring and/or because they hit with little advance warning?

Jeez, name the major blizzards already. If this bothers you, you have some serious First World Problems.

The naming system is entirely arbitrary and severs no purpose in it's current form but for dramatization for media ratings.  It should be scrapped.  The NWS rightly barred their employees from ever using it.

Aarrgghh. Isn't there a cloud you can yell at? Why is it so horrible TWC is referring to the northeast storm as Nemo and the upcoming midwest storm as Orko? Is the fact that it (allegedly, though it's not why I like watching TWC during major weather events) bumps ratings for TWC that big a deal? And again, why's it ok to name hurricanes but not blizzards and/or tornados?

//and I thought I was the grumpy old man

Perhaps this might help explain why people don't like it:

But winter storms and storm system don't get official names, for a variety of good reasons: they're unwieldy, uneven, often composed of more than one actual storm. It's hard to say where one ends and another begins; a single storm can be one of a number of different types, or a combination of types.(Warning: Gawker)


Also, there is no defined strength to naming.  NHC names and categories are clearly defined with specific values for each category.  There are no such rules for TWC's winter storms.
 
2013-02-09 09:53:21 PM
i.i.com.com

Looks as well defined as most satellite pix of hurricanes.

Hey, I really don't care if you guys want to call it 'the February 8th/9th 2013 blizzard' instead of simply 'Nemo'. I just don't understand why you're so reluctant to reciprocate.

Cheers.
 
2013-02-09 10:03:38 PM

John Buck 41: Hey, I really don't care if you guys want to call it 'the February 8th/9th 2013 blizzard' instead of simply 'Nemo'. I just don't understand why you're so reluctant to reciprocate.


www.poynter.org

This

/fark the NY Post forever, terrible rag
//Daily News isn't that much better, just on the opposite side of the spectrum
 
2013-02-09 10:29:21 PM
upload.wikimedia.org


/ oh, homogeneous . . .
// never mind
 
2013-02-10 04:14:18 AM

lewismarktwo: The naming of these minor storms is just silly.


And useless... The reason that the NWS doesn't name them is because they are always changing. New storms form, big storms break into smaller storms, which can merge with remnants of other storms, and so on.

Fark The Weather Channel and their useless time wasting attention where bullshiat.
 
2013-02-10 09:37:33 AM

teto85: WSJ and NYPost are both owned by Murdoch, and he is not known for spending money.  Sometimes an image is just right.  Given that newspapers are shrinking and many of them get stories and photos from places like AP, Reuters, etc., this should not really be all that newsworthy.  It's not news.  IT'S FARK!!!!


^^^ This ^^^

Great Weeners, came here to say much the same.  I can't blame newspapers for things like this, they've been forced to cut corners everywhere to stay profitable, or just to try and stay alive.  Even though these are major news outlets, they're hurting like all the others.
 
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