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(SanDiego UnionTribune)   Next Saturday, a massive bronze statue depicting the iconic "sailor a kissing a woman in Times Square at the end of World War" picture will be unveiled in San Diego   (utsandiego.com ) divider line
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2013-02-09 03:03:41 PM  
6 votes:
In regards to the whole sexual assault claim:

OH MY GOD WHO CARES?

No. Seriously, STFU. You want to help women? Get off your fat ass and actually help women who are in danger right now. I don't care if the statue is a 200 ft tall statue of Bea Arthur being anally raped by Ron Jeremy. You'll do more to help women by donating time or money to a women's shelter than you will by biatching on the internet about a goddamned statue.

Start your white knighting here;
http://www.rainn.org/
2013-02-09 01:58:36 PM  
5 votes:
downloads.thedaily.com

/HOT!
2013-02-09 01:48:07 PM  
5 votes:
umm. didnt we find out before that those two people didnt know each other and he sort of forced himself on her?

like. we're making a shrine to the glorification of sexual assault?
2013-02-09 02:01:00 PM  
4 votes:
Here is an interview with the two people in the picture. You might want to watch this before getting your knickers in a twist.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-33816_162-57491471/sailor-nurse-from-ico ni c-vj-day-photo-reunited/
2013-02-09 05:33:20 PM  
3 votes:

SevenizGud: Because sexual assault is spiffy.


If an unknown woman walked up to a man and planted a kiss on his lips, would that mean he'd been raped -- sorry, sexually assaulted? Most likely he'd be either mystified or (at most) pissed off, but victimized? Or are you saying that only women are such precious little flowers that an unwanted kiss would be a life- changing and irremediably damaging event for them? --Radical feminism infantilizes women by claiming that they are constitute a passive class of people who are continually being attacked, violated, and transgressed against, without taking into account the natural strength and resilience of women to deal with what are in most cases nothing more than annoyances.
2013-02-09 02:04:56 PM  
3 votes:
The same people who facepalm at anyone who admits to the truth (that nurse was GRABBED and FORCED into that kiss) are the ones who justify this picture with the excuse that "Aww come on!!!!!! he's a hero who just fought for AMURICA, the least that nurse can do as an innocent passing-by female is to let him exert physical force over her body/sexually molest her!!"

Disgusting.
2013-02-09 04:45:33 PM  
2 votes:

Lenny_da_Hog: Raising the flag at Iwo Jima = vandalism.


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
2013-02-09 03:08:18 PM  
2 votes:

Oh_Enough_Already: I get the feeling that the vast majority of feminuts would honestly have preferred we lost WW2 than a sailor kissed a stranger because that was worse than either the Holocaust or Hiroshima.


oi50.tinypic.com
2013-02-09 02:48:32 PM  
2 votes:

Lenny_da_Hog: Theaetetus: bingethinker: Lots of people grabbed and kissed each other that day. In many cases, the woman was the one doing the grabbing and kissing. Anyone with any common sense or a normal grip on reality would realize this.

So if more than one person commits sexual assault, suddenly it's all okay? Bring up some more victims and we can discuss those, but unless you do, you're just arguing a strawman.
In this case, we know that she didn't participate: "That man was very strong. I wasn't kissing him. He was kissing me."

Well, as long as *you're* traumatized by it, I guess *someone* is.


More strawmen, huh? Why is that? Is it that you can't actually address any of the facts of the situation, or even respond to things I actually said, and instead have to answer some pretend internal dialogue you've got going? Maybe you should stroll over the politics tab where that's considered insightful.
2013-02-09 02:46:40 PM  
2 votes:

Lenny_da_Hog: bingethinker: Of course, the people who have to turn every situation into "man sexually assaults woman" have never thought of that.
To many feminists, "equality" means "Guilting you into doing everything I tell you to do, as if I were your mother catching you masturbating."


Isn't it amazing how the people who say what all feminists think are always anti-feminist?
2013-02-09 02:45:28 PM  
2 votes:

bingethinker: Lots of people grabbed and kissed each other that day. In many cases, the woman was the one doing the grabbing and kissing. Anyone with any common sense or a normal grip on reality would realize this.


So if more than one person commits sexual assault, suddenly it's all okay? Bring up some more victims and we can discuss those, but unless you do, you're just arguing a strawman.
In this case, we know that she didn't participate: "That man was very strong. I wasn't kissing him. He was kissing me."
2013-02-09 01:55:05 PM  
2 votes:
So any poster here would be fine with being grabbed in the street, bent in half and having a stranger's tongue jammed down their throat? Was it different because she was a woman? Because of the era? How can people justify this?
2013-02-09 11:34:25 PM  
1 vote:

mmnessa: Frank N Stein: mmnessa: In spite of how enraged this comments section makes me, I'm glad it happened because this way I can tag all the Farker arseholes who are mysogyst, sexual assault apologists and make the world such a tough place for a woman to live in.
So thank you, farktrucks, for displaying your ugliness so out in the open.

Hahahaha yes.

Be proud of being someone so disgusting and alarmingly sexist on the internet. Surely, you're a lovely person in real life and no one will ever abandon you for being such a closeted arsewipe.

~*u makeng dah world such a bttah plaec maria*~*


Look, I'm sorry you have a victim complex and the world is against. Really, I am. It must be a terrible burden. But you're going to have to accept that people will always have different opinions from you. Some people just like the picture. And yes, I know the patriarchy isn't going smash itself, but you gotta pick you battles. And maybe even lighten up a bit and learn to laugh at yourself and your ideals. What a concept!

Also, I'm sorry your boyfriend dumped you. You can take off the emo glasses now.
2013-02-09 06:28:43 PM  
1 vote:

austerity101: Perhaps I should have used the term "privileged classes" instead, but what I meant is everyone who isn't part of the oppressed classes.  White is one of them; male is another.  There is a bit of parallaxing between classes of privilege, of course--a white male is in privileged classes, but if he's gay, he's also in an oppressed class.


Wait, so a gay white male is oppressing himself? Never mind, I have more a reasonable supposition: everyone who enjoys privilege, regardless of their race, sex, religion or sexual orientation, is privileged; everyone who does not enjoy privilege, regardless of their race, sex, religion, or sexual orientation, is not privileged. And it follows from this that someone who does not enjoy privilege cannot possibly be deemed an "oppressor" of anyone else.

You're still a part of the oppressing classes even if you're not personally doing the oppressing.

You'll have to explain the magic voodoo process by which this is possible. Is the stigma of being an oppressor genetically inherited? If so, explain how; if not, explain how else it is possible to be an oppressor when you haven't actually oppressed anybody, any more than it is possible to (for example) be a world traveller when you've never left your hometown in your entire life.

[...]Also, you don't get to decide what an annoyance is--the one being approached or attacked is.  If it's an annoyance to her, fine; if not, you don't get to tell her she's wrong.
 
So the feeling of annoyance or victimization or oppression is entirely subjective, and not necessarily correlated with any kind of objective standard of reality? The only possible response for that is for men to avoid women altogether, lest they be accused of an offence entirely in the mind of the woman.


I wish I could continue this discussion with you further, but unfortunately I've promised to watch a Dickens miniseries this evening with my family -- my wives and daughters are unaware of how much I oppress them, fortunately -- but I can only say that, if you're not actually taking the piss and impersonating a mindless politically correct drone for fun, you have my full sympathy and best wishes for a speedy recovery from your moral blindness.
2013-02-09 06:18:05 PM  
1 vote:

The My Little Pony Killer: Prove to us the political affiliation of either person in that photo then.


The sailor had recently returned from what Tom Hanks so perceptively termed "a racist war" against the Japanese. Bear in mind that the Japanese had only been compelled -- totally against their will -- to bomb Pearl Harbor as a response to FDR's oil embargo against them, an embargo only levied against the Japanese in the first place in total misunderstanding of their benevolent intentions in subjugating half of Asia and of their civilizing activities in cities such as Nanking. This heterosexual white male sailor, flush with the triumphalism of his oppressor class, can only be assumed by contemporary standards to have been a conservative. The exact political affiliations of the woman he kissed are unknown, but qua woman she was part of an eternally victimized class of people, and in any event her active participation in the defence of her country probably aggravated the swaggering sexism of the sailor who (in common with every other single man of the time) regarded women as nothing better than domestic slaves, fit for childbirth and cookery but nothing else.

/there you go, the $75,000 I spent earning a sociology and poli-sci double major wasn't totally wasted, was it?
2013-02-09 06:10:58 PM  
1 vote:

EvilRacistNaziFascist: Radical feminism infantilizes women


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2013-02-09 05:43:33 PM  
1 vote:

cptjeff: Theaetetus: You know, you were originally claiming there were "sure as hell posts about 'Rape Culture'" but apparently that "sure as hell" consists of (i) your post, (ii) a strawman, and (iii) a URL. It's like going into a thread on Freep and saying that there are "sure as hell posts about 'Democrats'", when it's really full of people complaining about them. So, +1 for trolling, but -1 for pretending it was a legitimate point.

Ah, so now it's, "you're the first one to use the term except for the uses I decide don't count".

You got caught in what was either a mistake or a lie, and now you're trying to weasel your way out of it.


Nice try. You were the one who lied about there being tons of posts, and had to later back pedal and admit that you could only find them if you included a hyphen and counted your own post, a troll's post, and a URL. Shiat, this is like the GOP claiming there's racism everywhere when they're the only ones bringing it up. It's laughably transparent, and no amount of "no U lie!" is going to change the fact that everyone can read this thread for themselves.
2013-02-09 05:00:08 PM  
1 vote:

cptjeff: Goiter: Hyperbolic Hyperbole: umm. didnt we find out before that those two people didnt know each other and he sort of forced himself on her?

like. we're making a shrine to the glorification of sexual assault?

http://cratesandribbons.com/2012/09/30/the-kissing-sailor-or-the-sel ec tive-blindness-of-rape-culture-vj-day-times-square/

Yes

WhippingBoy: The statue is merely a glorification of rape-culture perpetrated by the oppressive hegemonic patriarchy.

Theaetetus: Actually, yours is the first to use that term. So, does that make you the herptyderper?

Technically true, if you define the term differently depending on whether it has a hyphen or not.


You know, you were originally claiming there were "sure as hell posts about 'Rape Culture'" but apparently that "sure as hell" consists of (i) your post, (ii) a strawman, and (iii) a URL. It's like going into a thread on Freep and saying that there are "sure as hell posts about 'Democrats'", when it's really full of people complaining about them. So, +1 for trolling, but -1 for pretending it was a legitimate point.
2013-02-09 04:44:24 PM  
1 vote:

Sargun: I know Fark is liberal (and so am I)... whore... crackpot women... feminazi...


I'm betting you aren't nearly as liberal as you claim.
2013-02-09 04:43:19 PM  
1 vote:

cptjeff: Theaetetus: knowless: came here for the herptyderp calling this rape, was not disappointed. idiots.

Actually, no one called this rape.

There were sure as hell posts about "rape culture". You're being obtuse.


Actually, yours is the first to use that term. So, does that make  you the herptyderper?
2013-02-09 04:19:51 PM  
1 vote:
Gee, the objective reality behind the photo is horrible, so I disapprove of a statute that will by and large convey only the subject interpretation of the viewer. <sarcasm>

You know the reality of most statutes and art are thought of in the context of the objective reality under which they were made correct? Any outrage over this statue because of the context of the real life couple is due to a fundamentally flawed understanding of art. I am sure these unbiased individuals look upon renaissance art as exploitation of women as many were prostitutes during their time and the artist was only helping to further their being an object in that society.

Honestly, the vast majority (my self included) do not look upon that photo and think about it in terms of a man forcing himself on her. Honestly, many see it as an actual couple. The subjective interpretation most people get from that photo is not at all related to gender issues, but is instead related to post-war bliss. There is nothing wrong with that.

When creating outrage over a piece of art, you should first look at what a plurality of people see when viewed subjectively. If there is a significant portion who view it based upon a negative issue, then it might deserve outrage. This is why erecting a statute of Hitler would be wrong as a large plurality, and honestly large majority, would be viewing it for a subjective interpretation of fine mustache trimming and instead would view it in regards to issues of genocide, war, and racism.

I just don't see anything to get upset over with this statute or the photo. I highly doubt a significant number of people are going to look at either one and say, "gee this is the state glorifying male dominance in sexual relations." Obviously some will, but not the vast majority. If we went by what a small few thought a statute represented, then hell I am sure there are people who see the statute of liberty and think it means all women should dress that way and therefore we should take that down as well.
2013-02-09 04:10:39 PM  
1 vote:

BarkingUnicorn: Confederate hero


Oxymoron
2013-02-09 03:57:18 PM  
1 vote:

Lenny_da_Hog: Theaetetus: Actually, it's a legal definition. Contrary to your apparent belief, I did not actually invent the phrase. Sorry to let you down.

Was that the case in 1945?


Yes, in 1945 I also did not invent the phrase.

knowless: came here for the herptyderp calling this rape, was not disappointed. idiots.


Actually, no one called this rape.

Spaced Cowboy: There's a reason that half this place has your dumb ass on ignore


Why don't you, since you haven't posted a single thing except to complain about my posts? In fact, at this point, you're just ignore-trolling.
2013-02-09 03:19:59 PM  
1 vote:

knowless: came here for the herptyderp calling this rape, was not disappointed. idiots.


Again, no one said rape. Herp always seems like the goto word on Fark when you can't think of a real argument.
2013-02-09 03:14:14 PM  
1 vote:
came here for the herptyderp calling this rape, was not disappointed. idiots.
2013-02-09 03:09:10 PM  
1 vote:
Guys who agree this was sexual assault are just trying to get into women's pants by abusing trust.
2013-02-09 03:08:42 PM  
1 vote:

Egoy3k: In regards to the whole sexual assault claim:

OH MY GOD WHO CARES?

No. Seriously, STFU. You want to help women? Get off your fat ass and actually help women who are in danger right now. I don't care if the statue is a 200 ft tall statue of Bea Arthur being anally raped by Ron Jeremy. You'll do more to help women by donating time or money to a women's shelter than you will by biatching on the internet about a goddamned statue.

Start your white knighting here;
http://www.rainn.org/


Really? If you care about stopping sexual assault stop complaining about the glorification of sexual assault? That makes sense.
2013-02-09 03:08:01 PM  
1 vote:

Lenny_da_Hog: Caffandtranqs: Lenny_da_Hog: Caffandtranqs: This is a national icon?  Looking closely at the pic shows a very uncomfortable woman.  She has the trademark hand tightly fisted, stiff-bodied, uncomfortable attempted neck pull-back tempered by the sailor's arm keeping her head in place.  It has nothing to do with the time, but has a lot to do with the inability for some men to understand body language.

An ugly, drunk chick kissed me in a bar without my permission. It was disgusting.

A hotter chick stole a kiss at a different bar. That was hot.


So you know how it feels then.

Yeah. I also know that strangers kissing strangers isn't all that rare or taboo, and deeming it "sexual assault" demeans what sexual assault is. You might see it as a violation of personal space, but not every space violation is "sexual assault."


I never deemed it to be sexual assault, but rather a definite depiction of personal space violation.  I'm not an extreme black and white thinker.  I simply do not think a violation of personal space is romantic nor worthy of romanticism in the form of a statue.
2013-02-09 03:05:54 PM  
1 vote:

Goiter: Summoner101:

There is a difference between understanding someone's behavior and accepting someone's behavior.  Since you're so high on that horse, I can see how you'd miss the difference.  But good job comparing a farking hockey game to the end of a bloody, worldwide war that significantly impacted our entire nation, even moreso our drafted military, for years during and after.

Yes there is, and your comment was clearly on the acceptance side. Especially damning is your attempt to lasso all of WWII and even warfare itself into your explanation. The only argument you have is heightened emotion, and that can be found equally at a riot or a celebration of noble victory, none of it justifiable for grabbing another human being.



Was the sailor in the wrong? Yes.
i>Can modern society really understand the emotions of people in Times Square on VE day? No.
So stop being obtuse. I shouldn't have to explain simple sentences to you. At this point though, I'm pretty sure you're just trolling with that last bit you added in since you're complaining about lassoing in all of WWII and warfare for a photo taken on farking VE day.
2013-02-09 03:01:31 PM  
1 vote:

Spaced Cowboy: Theaetetus: Spaced Cowboy: Here are the full quotes from everyone living in 2013:

"STFU Theaetetus. No one gives a fark about your whiny feminist bullshiat."
 Aw, does someone feel uncomfortable need to silence people who disagree with him? Why so defensive about a discussion of sexual assault? Something in your past you don't like to admit?
I know you're just going to get angry and call me names, but frankly, I think you protest a bit too much.

Your poorly thought out, "OH THAT POOR LADY" hysterics never upset anyone.


... says the upset guy rushing to shut me up, while quivering with tears of impotent rage. If it doesn't upset you, then why are you so angrily responding?
2013-02-09 02:57:05 PM  
1 vote:

Lenny_da_Hog: Yeah. I also know that strangers kissing strangers isn't all that rare or taboo, and deeming it "sexual assault" demeans what sexual assault is.


Ah, concern troll is concerned.
2013-02-09 02:55:52 PM  
1 vote:
The statue is merely a glorification of rape-culture perpetrated by the oppressive hegemonic patriarchy.
2013-02-09 02:54:39 PM  
1 vote:

Lenny_da_Hog: Theaetetus: Lenny_da_Hog: Theaetetus: bingethinker: Lots of people grabbed and kissed each other that day. In many cases, the woman was the one doing the grabbing and kissing. Anyone with any common sense or a normal grip on reality would realize this.

So if more than one person commits sexual assault, suddenly it's all okay? Bring up some more victims and we can discuss those, but unless you do, you're just arguing a strawman.
In this case, we know that she didn't participate: "That man was very strong. I wasn't kissing him. He was kissing me."

Well, as long as *you're* traumatized by it, I guess *someone* is.

More strawmen, huh? Why is that? Is it that you can't actually address any of the facts of the situation, or even respond to things I actually said, and instead have to answer some pretend internal dialogue you've got going? Maybe you should stroll over the politics tab where that's considered insightful.

You're the one using the term "sexual assault."


Yes, and? Do you believe I invented the term?

If your mom kisses you, is it sexual? Is every contact sexual? Do you know for a fact that the guy was getting aroused by this, or was thinking of it in a sexual context by any means?You have a lot of assumptions in calling a kiss "sexual assault." That's your word, not a strawman.

Actually, it's a legal definition. Contrary to your apparent belief, I did not actually invent the phrase. Sorry to let you down.
2013-02-09 02:51:09 PM  
1 vote:
Lots of people grabbed and kissed each other that day. In many cases, the woman was the one doing the grabbing and kissing. Anyone with any common sense or a normal grip on reality would realize this.

So if more than one person commits sexual assault, suddenly it's all okay? Bring up some more victims and we can discuss those, but unless you do, you're just arguing a strawman.
In this case, we know that she didn't participate: "That man was very strong. I wasn't kissing him. He was kissing me."


Pretty much. it's called societal norms. Standards are set by what the majority deems okay.
2013-02-09 02:49:32 PM  
1 vote:

Lenny_da_Hog: prejudiced person?


static.ddmcdn.com
2013-02-09 02:46:25 PM  
1 vote:
media.utsandiego.com

Wait... this is CAST BRONZE, and you painted it?

Bronze is a hella expensive material, but the only way you're gonna get the surface patina of bronze is with cast bronze.

YOU painted it and it might as well have been made out of fiberglass.  It looks like a Big Boy.


Maybe TFA has it backwards... it says "A previous rendition of the statue (not bronze) had stood there on loan for several years."  I think that pic may be of the non-bronze one being removed.
2013-02-09 02:43:00 PM  
1 vote:

Spaced Cowboy: Here are the full quotes from everyone living in 2013:

"STFU Theaetetus. No one gives a fark about your whiny feminist bullshiat."

 Aw, does someone feel uncomfortable need to silence people who disagree with him? Why so defensive about a discussion of sexual assault? Something in your past you don't like to admit?
I know you're just going to get angry and call me names, but frankly, I think you protest a bit too much.
2013-02-09 02:42:06 PM  
1 vote:
Lots of people grabbed and kissed each other that day. In many cases, the woman was the one doing the grabbing and kissing. Anyone with any common sense or a normal grip on reality would realize this. Of course, the people who have to turn every situation into "man sexually assaults woman" have never thought of that.
2013-02-09 02:40:14 PM  
1 vote:
Here are the full quotes from everyone living in 2013:

"STFU Theaetetus. No one gives a fark about your whiny feminist bullshiat."
2013-02-09 02:38:47 PM  
1 vote:

Red Shirt Blues: Here is an interview with the two people in the picture. You might want to watch this before getting your knickers in a twist.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-33816_162-57491471/sailor-nurse-from-ico ni c-vj-day-photo-reunited/


Here are the full extent of Greta's quotes from the article:
"I did not see him approaching, and before I know it, I was in this vice grip!" Greta says.
Greta says she's "sure" he saw the photo when it was published in Life magazine, and "of course," she recognized herself.  "You don't forget this guy grabbing you!" she remarked.
Sure, there's a bunch about how he didn't think much of it, and how  his date (now wife) didn't think much of it, but nothing from her saying that.
2013-02-09 02:37:25 PM  
1 vote:

GORDON: Theaetetus: GORDON: El Freak: GORDON: I remember when for it to be rape the penis needed to make an appearance.

Good times.

Nobody said rape, moron.

No YOU are the one who is a moron.

Are you proud of that post?

No YOU are the one who is proud of it.


I know this is Fark but isn't it a little early to be that drunk?
2013-02-09 02:36:17 PM  
1 vote:
It's funny that all this emo "sexual harassment" squealing didn't really start until 50+ years after the photo.

You're a little too late to piss and moan about it now, ladies. Take your 20 year old "so totally, like, in touch with the struggles of the womyns in the modern era" philosophy and get your ass back in class.

Whiny college kids whining about shiat from their grandfather's time. GTFO.
2013-02-09 02:35:32 PM  
1 vote:

Goiter: Summoner101:

Well aren't you precious.  Did you see the sentence before that where I said the sailor was in the wrong?

Which was negated by the following sentence where you claim judgement should be reserved due to the atmosphere in Times Square at that moment. It was only 70 years ago, people didn't have cro-magnon brains incapable of understanding the concept of consent.  I hope your car gets burned during a sports riot, because who are we to understand the emotions of drunken hockey fans who just lost the cup?


There is a difference between understanding someone's behavior and accepting someone's behavior.  Since you're so high on that horse, I can see how you'd miss the difference.  But good job comparing a farking hockey game to the end of a bloody, worldwide war that significantly impacted our entire nation, even moreso our drafted military, for years during and after.
2013-02-09 02:32:21 PM  
1 vote:
This is a national icon?  Looking closely at the pic shows a very uncomfortable woman.  She has the trademark hand tightly fisted, stiff-bodied, uncomfortable attempted neck pull-back tempered by the sailor's arm keeping her head in place.  It has nothing to do with the time, but has a lot to do with the inability for some men to understand body language.
2013-02-09 02:32:11 PM  
1 vote:

GORDON: El Freak: GORDON: I remember when for it to be rape the penis needed to make an appearance.

Good times.

Nobody said rape, moron.

No YOU are the one who is a moron.


Are you proud of that post?
2013-02-09 02:27:28 PM  
1 vote:
Summoner101:

Well aren't you precious.  Did you see the sentence before that where I said the sailor was in the wrong?

Which was negated by the following sentence where you claim judgement should be reserved due to the atmosphere in Times Square at that moment. It was only 70 years ago, people didn't have cro-magnon brains incapable of understanding the concept of consent.  I hope your car gets burned during a sports riot, because who are we to understand the emotions of drunken hockey fans who just lost the cup?
2013-02-09 02:26:36 PM  
1 vote:

GORDON: I remember when for it to be rape the penis needed to make an appearance.

Good times.


Nobody said rape, moron.
2013-02-09 02:20:10 PM  
1 vote:

homelessdude: Red Shirt Blues: Here is an interview with the two people in the picture. You might want to watch this before getting your knickers in a twist.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-33816_162-57491471/sailor-nurse-from-ico ni c-vj-day-photo-reunited/

Then, there are always the Debbie Downers (jezebel.com) even though the two people in the above linked vid don't seem phased.


It doesn't matter if the woman didn't care. He didn't know that beforehand. His actions would have been exactly the same had she punched him and pressed charges instead.
2013-02-09 02:08:52 PM  
1 vote:

Summoner101: Goiter: So any poster here would be fine with being grabbed in the street, bent in half and having a stranger's tongue jammed down their throat? Was it different because she was a woman? Because of the era? How can people justify this?

People tend to get excited at celebrations, especially those that celebrating the end of a brutal war with returnees from that war.  Was the sailor in the wrong?  Yes.  Can modern society really understand the emotions of people in Times Square on VE day?  No.

 Can modern society really understand the emotions of people in Times Square on VE day?  No.


Woah, holy shart, thank you for proving my point.
2013-02-09 02:07:12 PM  
1 vote:
I came in here just to see how lefties would find a way to blow an ovary about it.

Leaving kinda amused, but not surprised.
2013-02-09 02:03:38 PM  
1 vote:

Hyperbolic Hyperbole: umm. didnt we find out before that those two people didnt know each other and he sort of forced himself on her?

like. we're making a shrine to the glorification of sexual assault?


San Diego is known for its conservative politics, the Rapepublican party is very strong there.
2013-02-09 02:01:26 PM  
1 vote:

Goiter: So any poster here would be fine with being grabbed in the street, bent in half and having a stranger's tongue jammed down their throat? Was it different because she was a woman? Because of the era? How can people justify this?


People tend to get excited at celebrations, especially those that celebrating the end of a brutal war with returnees from that war.  Was the sailor in the wrong?  Yes.  Can modern society really understand the emotions of people in Times Square on VE day?  No.
2013-02-09 02:00:10 PM  
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This has actually been in Sarasota for years. . . mostly because of all the damn old people who actually remember the war, i think.  Some Blue-hair actually crashed her Mercedes into it a couple of years back:  http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20120426/BREAKING/120429651
2013-02-09 01:59:12 PM  
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Well the problem is, that nobody knows for sure who it was in the photo.    Nobody has conclusively determined and there have been lawsuits over the issue.   I suspect there were lots of people kissing each other in the euphoria of the VJ announcement.
2013-02-09 01:58:53 PM  
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wambu: In San Diego? WTF?


I would guess because this: "Naval Base San Diego is the principal homeport of the Pacific Fleet, consisting of 50 Navy ships, two Coast Guard cutters, six Military Sealift Command logistical support platforms, several research and auxiliary vessels, and the Navy's most advanced 21st century fleet platform known as the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS). Naval Base San Diego is home to over 180 individual commands, each having specific and specialized fleet support purposes. The base itself is comprised of over 2,000 land acres and 326 acres of water, Naval Base San Diego also includes outlying entities like Commander, Navy Region Southwest headquarters located downtown San Diego and the Naval Medical Center in Balboa Park."


Source: Naval Base San Diego
2013-02-09 01:54:19 PM  
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I cant believe the feminazis are trying to turn an iconic American image into some sort of sexual assualt thing. They ought to be ashamed of themselves.
2013-02-09 01:51:52 PM  
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Yeah that poor guy,not being able to get away with sexual assault.
2013-02-09 01:51:24 PM  
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Hyperbolic Hyperbole: umm. didnt we find out before that those two people didnt know each other and he sort of forced himself on her?

like. we're making a shrine to the glorification of sexual assault?


http://cratesandribbons.com/2012/09/30/the-kissing-sailor-or-the-sel ec tive-blindness-of-rape-culture-vj-day-times-square/

Yes
2013-02-09 01:51:14 PM  
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Hyperbolic Hyperbole: umm. didnt we find out before that those two people didnt know each other and he sort of forced himself on her?

like. we're making a shrine to the glorification of sexual assault?


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