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(SanDiegoUnionTribune)   Next Saturday, a massive bronze statue depicting the iconic "sailor a kissing a woman in Times Square at the end of World War" picture will be unveiled in San Diego   (utsandiego.com) divider line 189
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2013-02-09 02:33:15 PM  
It's not a rape if seaman is involved
 
2013-02-09 02:33:29 PM  

homelessdude: Yeah, agreed. Don't get me wrong, I am not advocating violence toward women, but this particular event does not really climb to the level of violent assault particularly in the context of the time.


"In the context of the time," it was legal to rape your wife. As in, she could be physically fighting you off, trying to get away, screaming her head off, and it was entirely legal. Perhaps "context" is not a valid excuse.
 
2013-02-09 02:35:10 PM  

Theaetetus: GORDON: El Freak: GORDON: I remember when for it to be rape the penis needed to make an appearance.

Good times.

Nobody said rape, moron.

No YOU are the one who is a moron.

Are you proud of that post?


No YOU are the one who is proud of it.
 
2013-02-09 02:35:24 PM  

natmar_76: wambu: In San Diego? WTF?


What is there in Olathe, KS?

There was a Navy base near there. That is as much connection to the "event" as San Diego has.
 I mean, this may not have happened in San Diego, however San Diego did play a major role in WW2.


And no other place in America played a major role in the war effort I suppose.

And apparently NY doesn't want this statue there.

So San Diego is a  good place for NYC's castoffs?

FYI, it's kind of a silly looking statue. I've seen it in person. They should strip off the paint and weather treat it to stay bronze.

This sounds like a great sales job by a monument salesman preying on the memories of the WW2 generation.  "What better way to commemorate the ultimate sacrifice your loved ones made than a statue of two people tickling tonsils. We can have it painted and installed in a place that had nothing to do with the event to make it even more special. Sign here. And here."
 
2013-02-09 02:35:32 PM  

Goiter: Summoner101:

Well aren't you precious.  Did you see the sentence before that where I said the sailor was in the wrong?

Which was negated by the following sentence where you claim judgement should be reserved due to the atmosphere in Times Square at that moment. It was only 70 years ago, people didn't have cro-magnon brains incapable of understanding the concept of consent.  I hope your car gets burned during a sports riot, because who are we to understand the emotions of drunken hockey fans who just lost the cup?


There is a difference between understanding someone's behavior and accepting someone's behavior.  Since you're so high on that horse, I can see how you'd miss the difference.  But good job comparing a farking hockey game to the end of a bloody, worldwide war that significantly impacted our entire nation, even moreso our drafted military, for years during and after.
 
2013-02-09 02:36:14 PM  

Caffandtranqs: This is a national icon?  Looking closely at the pic shows a very uncomfortable woman.  She has the trademark hand tightly fisted, stiff-bodied, uncomfortable attempted neck pull-back tempered by the sailor's arm keeping her head in place.  It has nothing to do with the time, but has a lot to do with the inability for some men to understand body language.


An ugly, drunk chick kissed me in a bar without my permission. It was disgusting.

A hotter chick stole a kiss at a different bar. That was hot.
 
2013-02-09 02:36:17 PM  
It's funny that all this emo "sexual harassment" squealing didn't really start until 50+ years after the photo.

You're a little too late to piss and moan about it now, ladies. Take your 20 year old "so totally, like, in touch with the struggles of the womyns in the modern era" philosophy and get your ass back in class.

Whiny college kids whining about shiat from their grandfather's time. GTFO.
 
2013-02-09 02:37:25 PM  

GORDON: Theaetetus: GORDON: El Freak: GORDON: I remember when for it to be rape the penis needed to make an appearance.

Good times.

Nobody said rape, moron.

No YOU are the one who is a moron.

Are you proud of that post?

No YOU are the one who is proud of it.


I know this is Fark but isn't it a little early to be that drunk?
 
2013-02-09 02:38:27 PM  

picturescrazy: GORDON: Theaetetus: GORDON: El Freak: GORDON: I remember when for it to be rape the penis needed to make an appearance.

Good times.

Nobody said rape, moron.

No YOU are the one who is a moron.

Are you proud of that post?

No YOU are the one who is proud of it.

I know this is Fark but isn't it a little early to be that drunk?


YOUR FACE is the one that is drunk so early!
 
2013-02-09 02:38:47 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: Here is an interview with the two people in the picture. You might want to watch this before getting your knickers in a twist.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-33816_162-57491471/sailor-nurse-from-ico ni c-vj-day-photo-reunited/


Here are the full extent of Greta's quotes from the article:
"I did not see him approaching, and before I know it, I was in this vice grip!" Greta says.
Greta says she's "sure" he saw the photo when it was published in Life magazine, and "of course," she recognized herself.  "You don't forget this guy grabbing you!" she remarked.
Sure, there's a bunch about how he didn't think much of it, and how  his date (now wife) didn't think much of it, but nothing from her saying that.
 
2013-02-09 02:39:49 PM  
Men often get boners when they die.  Here's a statue of a fallen Confederate hero that women rub for "luck" (meaning fertility).

www.nuitblanchetours.com
 
2013-02-09 02:40:14 PM  
Here are the full quotes from everyone living in 2013:

"STFU Theaetetus. No one gives a fark about your whiny feminist bullshiat."
 
2013-02-09 02:41:15 PM  

Summoner101: picturescrazy: GORDON: Theaetetus: GORDON: El Freak: GORDON: I remember when for it to be rape the penis needed to make an appearance.

Good times.

Nobody said rape, moron.

No YOU are the one who is a moron.

Are you proud of that post?

No YOU are the one who is proud of it.

I know this is Fark but isn't it a little early to be that drunk?

YOUR FACE is the one that is drunk so early!


Ha, good one.

shiatbird calls me a name.  I call him the same thing back in a way that amused me.  Random people rush to the defense of the name caller.  I troll the easily enraged mental midgets.

Another good day on the internet.

No YOU are the one not having a good day on the internet!
 
2013-02-09 02:41:40 PM  
They'd better hire a full-time anti-vandilism crew...
 
2013-02-09 02:41:49 PM  
i57.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-09 02:42:06 PM  
Lots of people grabbed and kissed each other that day. In many cases, the woman was the one doing the grabbing and kissing. Anyone with any common sense or a normal grip on reality would realize this. Of course, the people who have to turn every situation into "man sexually assaults woman" have never thought of that.
 
2013-02-09 02:43:00 PM  

Spaced Cowboy: Here are the full quotes from everyone living in 2013:

"STFU Theaetetus. No one gives a fark about your whiny feminist bullshiat."

 Aw, does someone feel uncomfortable need to silence people who disagree with him? Why so defensive about a discussion of sexual assault? Something in your past you don't like to admit?
I know you're just going to get angry and call me names, but frankly, I think you protest a bit too much.
 
2013-02-09 02:44:02 PM  

bingethinker: Lots of people grabbed and kissed each other that day. In many cases, the woman was the one doing the grabbing and kissing. Anyone with any common sense or a normal grip on reality would realize this. Of course, the people who have to turn every situation into "man sexually assaults woman" have never thought of that.


To many feminists, "equality" means "Guilting you into doing everything I tell you to do, as if I were your mother catching you masturbating."
 
2013-02-09 02:44:43 PM  
El Freak: GORDON: I remember when for it to be rape the penis needed to make an appearance.

Good times.

Nobody said rape, moron.

No YOU are the one who is a moron.

Are you proud of that post?


lol.
seems the bar's set a little lower on the weekend
 
2013-02-09 02:45:06 PM  

Spaced Cowboy: Here are the full quotes from everyone living in 2013:

"STFU Theaetetus. No one gives a fark about your whiny feminist bullshiat."


I have to agree.  Theaetetus'heart is in the right place, but his constant whining is getting quite tiresome.
 
2013-02-09 02:45:28 PM  

bingethinker: Lots of people grabbed and kissed each other that day. In many cases, the woman was the one doing the grabbing and kissing. Anyone with any common sense or a normal grip on reality would realize this.


So if more than one person commits sexual assault, suddenly it's all okay? Bring up some more victims and we can discuss those, but unless you do, you're just arguing a strawman.
In this case, we know that she didn't participate: "That man was very strong. I wasn't kissing him. He was kissing me."
 
2013-02-09 02:46:25 PM  
media.utsandiego.com

Wait... this is CAST BRONZE, and you painted it?

Bronze is a hella expensive material, but the only way you're gonna get the surface patina of bronze is with cast bronze.

YOU painted it and it might as well have been made out of fiberglass.  It looks like a Big Boy.


Maybe TFA has it backwards... it says "A previous rendition of the statue (not bronze) had stood there on loan for several years."  I think that pic may be of the non-bronze one being removed.
 
2013-02-09 02:46:40 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: bingethinker: Of course, the people who have to turn every situation into "man sexually assaults woman" have never thought of that.
To many feminists, "equality" means "Guilting you into doing everything I tell you to do, as if I were your mother catching you masturbating."


Isn't it amazing how the people who say what all feminists think are always anti-feminist?
 
2013-02-09 02:46:56 PM  

Theaetetus: bingethinker: Lots of people grabbed and kissed each other that day. In many cases, the woman was the one doing the grabbing and kissing. Anyone with any common sense or a normal grip on reality would realize this.

So if more than one person commits sexual assault, suddenly it's all okay? Bring up some more victims and we can discuss those, but unless you do, you're just arguing a strawman.
In this case, we know that she didn't participate: "That man was very strong. I wasn't kissing him. He was kissing me."


Well, as long as *you're* traumatized by it, I guess *someone* is.
 
2013-02-09 02:47:25 PM  

Theaetetus: Lenny_da_Hog: bingethinker: Of course, the people who have to turn every situation into "man sexually assaults woman" have never thought of that.
To many feminists, "equality" means "Guilting you into doing everything I tell you to do, as if I were your mother catching you masturbating."

Isn't it amazing how the people who say what all feminists think are always anti-feminist?


It is.
 
2013-02-09 02:47:31 PM  

Theaetetus: Lenny_da_Hog: bingethinker: Of course, the people who have to turn every situation into "man sexually assaults woman" have never thought of that.
To many feminists, "equality" means "Guilting you into doing everything I tell you to do, as if I were your mother catching you masturbating."

Isn't it amazing how the people who say what all feminists think are always anti-feminist?


Where do you see the word "all" in my post, prejudiced person?
 
2013-02-09 02:47:45 PM  
I'm confused. So what did I take a picture of when I was down there 2 years ago?


i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-09 02:48:32 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Theaetetus: bingethinker: Lots of people grabbed and kissed each other that day. In many cases, the woman was the one doing the grabbing and kissing. Anyone with any common sense or a normal grip on reality would realize this.

So if more than one person commits sexual assault, suddenly it's all okay? Bring up some more victims and we can discuss those, but unless you do, you're just arguing a strawman.
In this case, we know that she didn't participate: "That man was very strong. I wasn't kissing him. He was kissing me."

Well, as long as *you're* traumatized by it, I guess *someone* is.


More strawmen, huh? Why is that? Is it that you can't actually address any of the facts of the situation, or even respond to things I actually said, and instead have to answer some pretend internal dialogue you've got going? Maybe you should stroll over the politics tab where that's considered insightful.
 
2013-02-09 02:49:30 PM  

Di Atribe: I'm confused. So what did I take a picture of when I was down there 2 years ago?


[i.imgur.com image 612x612]


A sexual assault, obviously.

/the old one they're replacing
 
2013-02-09 02:49:32 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: prejudiced person?


static.ddmcdn.com
 
2013-02-09 02:51:05 PM  

BumpInTheNight: A sexual assault, obviously.

/the old one they're replacing


Hm. I guess I COULD'VE read the article.... but why would I do that?


/thanks
 
2013-02-09 02:51:09 PM  
Lots of people grabbed and kissed each other that day. In many cases, the woman was the one doing the grabbing and kissing. Anyone with any common sense or a normal grip on reality would realize this.

So if more than one person commits sexual assault, suddenly it's all okay? Bring up some more victims and we can discuss those, but unless you do, you're just arguing a strawman.
In this case, we know that she didn't participate: "That man was very strong. I wasn't kissing him. He was kissing me."


Pretty much. it's called societal norms. Standards are set by what the majority deems okay.
 
2013-02-09 02:51:23 PM  
Summoner101:

There is a difference between understanding someone's behavior and accepting someone's behavior.  Since you're so high on that horse, I can see how you'd miss the difference.  But good job comparing a farking hockey game to the end of a bloody, worldwide war that significantly impacted our entire nation, even moreso our drafted military, for years during and after.

Yes there is, and your comment was clearly on the acceptance side. Especially damning is your attempt to lasso all of WWII and even warfare itself into your explanation. The only argument you have is heightened emotion, and that can be found equally at a riot or a celebration of noble victory, none of it justifiable for grabbing another human being.
 
2013-02-09 02:51:26 PM  

Theaetetus: Lenny_da_Hog: Theaetetus: bingethinker: Lots of people grabbed and kissed each other that day. In many cases, the woman was the one doing the grabbing and kissing. Anyone with any common sense or a normal grip on reality would realize this.

So if more than one person commits sexual assault, suddenly it's all okay? Bring up some more victims and we can discuss those, but unless you do, you're just arguing a strawman.
In this case, we know that she didn't participate: "That man was very strong. I wasn't kissing him. He was kissing me."

Well, as long as *you're* traumatized by it, I guess *someone* is.

More strawmen, huh? Why is that? Is it that you can't actually address any of the facts of the situation, or even respond to things I actually said, and instead have to answer some pretend internal dialogue you've got going? Maybe you should stroll over the politics tab where that's considered insightful.


You're the one using the term "sexual assault." If your mom kisses you, is it sexual? Is every contact sexual? Do you know for a fact that the guy was getting aroused by this, or was thinking of it in a sexual context by any means?

You have a lot of assumptions in calling a kiss "sexual assault." That's your word, not a strawman.
 
2013-02-09 02:52:28 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Caffandtranqs: This is a national icon?  Looking closely at the pic shows a very uncomfortable woman.  She has the trademark hand tightly fisted, stiff-bodied, uncomfortable attempted neck pull-back tempered by the sailor's arm keeping her head in place.  It has nothing to do with the time, but has a lot to do with the inability for some men to understand body language.

An ugly, drunk chick kissed me in a bar without my permission. It was disgusting.

A hotter chick stole a kiss at a different bar. That was hot.



So you know how it feels then.
 
2013-02-09 02:54:39 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Theaetetus: Lenny_da_Hog: Theaetetus: bingethinker: Lots of people grabbed and kissed each other that day. In many cases, the woman was the one doing the grabbing and kissing. Anyone with any common sense or a normal grip on reality would realize this.

So if more than one person commits sexual assault, suddenly it's all okay? Bring up some more victims and we can discuss those, but unless you do, you're just arguing a strawman.
In this case, we know that she didn't participate: "That man was very strong. I wasn't kissing him. He was kissing me."

Well, as long as *you're* traumatized by it, I guess *someone* is.

More strawmen, huh? Why is that? Is it that you can't actually address any of the facts of the situation, or even respond to things I actually said, and instead have to answer some pretend internal dialogue you've got going? Maybe you should stroll over the politics tab where that's considered insightful.

You're the one using the term "sexual assault."


Yes, and? Do you believe I invented the term?

If your mom kisses you, is it sexual? Is every contact sexual? Do you know for a fact that the guy was getting aroused by this, or was thinking of it in a sexual context by any means?You have a lot of assumptions in calling a kiss "sexual assault." That's your word, not a strawman.

Actually, it's a legal definition. Contrary to your apparent belief, I did not actually invent the phrase. Sorry to let you down.
 
2013-02-09 02:55:36 PM  

Caffandtranqs: Lenny_da_Hog: Caffandtranqs: This is a national icon?  Looking closely at the pic shows a very uncomfortable woman.  She has the trademark hand tightly fisted, stiff-bodied, uncomfortable attempted neck pull-back tempered by the sailor's arm keeping her head in place.  It has nothing to do with the time, but has a lot to do with the inability for some men to understand body language.

An ugly, drunk chick kissed me in a bar without my permission. It was disgusting.

A hotter chick stole a kiss at a different bar. That was hot.


So you know how it feels then.


Yeah. I also know that strangers kissing strangers isn't all that rare or taboo, and deeming it "sexual assault" demeans what sexual assault is. You might see it as a violation of personal space, but not every space violation is "sexual assault."
 
2013-02-09 02:55:52 PM  
The statue is merely a glorification of rape-culture perpetrated by the oppressive hegemonic patriarchy.
 
2013-02-09 02:56:59 PM  

CruiserTwelve: wambu: In San Diego? WTF?

I would guess because this: "Naval Base San Diego is the principal homeport of the Pacific Fleet, consisting of 50 Navy ships, two Coast Guard cutters, six Military Sealift Command logistical support platforms, several research and auxiliary vessels, and the Navy's most advanced 21st century fleet platform known as the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS). Naval Base San Diego is home to over 180 individual commands, each having specific and specialized fleet support purposes. The base itself is comprised of over 2,000 land acres and 326 acres of water, Naval Base San Diego also includes outlying entities like Commander, Navy Region Southwest headquarters located downtown San Diego and the Naval Medical Center in Balboa Park."


Source: Naval Base San Diego



Here is a list of all the military presence in San Diego:


· Aircraft Squadrons: 35
· Aircraft: 406
· Ships: 48 Surface Combatants
· Aircraft Carriers: 2 (The Nimitz and Reagan are nuclear powered.)
· Submarines: 7
· Military Sealift Command Ships: 9

Those 48 surface combatants include all the ships that make up a Carrier Task Force. There is also a variety of other ships such as Guided Missile Cruisers, Destroyers, Guided Missile Destroyers, Frigates and Amphibious Assault Ships that could act in concert with a carrier task force or be assigned to other attack elements as the strategy and tactics might dictate.

 Naval Base Coronado: This is among the best known of the area's naval installations. NAB Coronado actually is three separate bases under one command structure. It includes North Island Naval Air Station, Naval Amphibious Base and OLF Imperial Beach. The Navy's SEAL units are trained and headquartered at North Island and the Amphibious Base. They are a part of Special Warfare Command and would likely be among the first into any action of any kind. North Island is home to numerous aviation units. It has over 235 assigned aircraft, including anti-submarine warfare planes, large cargo planes, several types of planes that are used to ferry personnel and supplies to and from carriers and more than a dozen helicopter squadrons that have a variety of medium to large helicopters assigned.

Naval Station San Diego: Known locally as 32nd Street, this is the most traditional of the Navy's bases. It is where the majority of the non-submarine combatants are berthed and serviced. While Southwest Command may be the control center on paper, in reality it is 32nd Street where naval operations center.

Naval Base Point Loma: This is home to the port's seven submarines and their support services. All are nuclear powered, all have tremendous range and all are equipped with missiles that could, and probably would, be used in a surgical attack.

Naval Medical Center San Diego: NMCSD is better known by its old name of Balboa Naval Hospital. It is one of the Navy's largest medical centers. Along with providing support for active duty military personnel, their dependents and the area's retirees, this also is the hospital to which wounded from the Pacific Rim would be evacuated for extended, extensive or specialized medical care.

MARINES:

 Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton: Pendleton is the Marines' largest amphibious training facility. It has 17 miles of coastline, 125,000 acres of maneuver land available and can be used to live-fire any tactical weapon the Corps employs. The I Marine Expeditionary Force, the 1st Marine Division and 1st Force Service Support Group are assigned to Pendleton. The 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing and the  Marine Corps Tactical Systems Support Activity also are housed on the base. There Are 37,000 active duty Marines and Sailors at Pendleton along with 3,400 civilian employees.

 Marine Corps Air Station Miramar (MCAS Miramar): Miramar has been in flux and growing since the last round of base closures and the movement of more helicopters and people to the base from El Toro and other deactivated bases. It is the home to the Marine Air Bases Western Area Headquarters, the 3rd Marine Aviation Wing, a huge Combat Service Support Detachment and Marine Aircraft Group 46. One of its units is a Marine Air Carrier Group that can provide aviation assets to the  Bremerton, WA, based nuclear aircraft carrier the USS Carl Vinson. The FA-18 is the base's primary aviation asset. There also are numerous C-130's assigned there. The base is home to more than a dozen squadrons of helicopters that include both CH-46's and CH-53's. The number of Marines assigned there is difficult to determine. Manpower is still in flux because the base is still receiving those previously mentioned people and aircraft from other bases. Most conservative estimates place the number around 10,000. MCAS is the Corps' largest aviation center.

Marine Recruit Depot (MCRD): MCRD is one of only two Marine Corps recruit training centers. It is the place where Basic Training (Boot Camp) is held for all Marine recruits who enter the Corps from west of the Mississippi. It provides training for roughly half of the 40,000 people who enter the Corps each year. There are 2,200 people permanently assigned. The recruit population fluctuates between 3,000 to 6,000.There also are 825 civilian employees at the Depot


Source:  http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/San_Diegos_Military_Presence.ht m l#ixzz2KQsIgMBe


So to sum up:

95,000 soldiers
435 aircraft
2 nuclear powered aircraft carriers
7 nuclear powered attack submarines
Navy SEAL base
Marine recruit depot
Camp Pendleton (Marine's largest amphibious training base at 125,000 acres)

Yeah I'd say San Diego is a good choice.


Besides, a statue (which was on loan from the Sculpture Foundation) was already on display from 2007 until 2012. The SD Unified Port District raised the money (through donations) to purchase a permanent bronze statue from the Foundation to replace the one that was on temporary loan.
 
2013-02-09 02:57:05 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Yeah. I also know that strangers kissing strangers isn't all that rare or taboo, and deeming it "sexual assault" demeans what sexual assault is.


Ah, concern troll is concerned.
 
2013-02-09 02:59:50 PM  

Theaetetus: Spaced Cowboy: Here are the full quotes from everyone living in 2013:

"STFU Theaetetus. No one gives a fark about your whiny feminist bullshiat."
 Aw, does someone feel uncomfortable need to silence people who disagree with him? Why so defensive about a discussion of sexual assault? Something in your past you don't like to admit?
I know you're just going to get angry and call me names, but frankly, I think you protest a bit too much.


Your poorly thought out, "OH THAT POOR LADY" hysterics never upset anyone.  I can count on one hand the times you've done anything other than embarrass yourself in a Fark thread.  Pestering people with your annoying sob stories of the plight of women doesn't really get you as far as you think with this crowd.

As for protesting too much, which of us has their panties all twisted up over an event that occurred well before we were born?
 
2013-02-09 03:00:38 PM  
Some pissant government office was criticized for concealing a painting that depicted a slave blowing her master.  "Whitewashing the past," went the argument.

Just show your kid this kissing image and say, "If anyone tries that with you, run away and tell an adult."
 
2013-02-09 03:01:31 PM  

Spaced Cowboy: Theaetetus: Spaced Cowboy: Here are the full quotes from everyone living in 2013:

"STFU Theaetetus. No one gives a fark about your whiny feminist bullshiat."
 Aw, does someone feel uncomfortable need to silence people who disagree with him? Why so defensive about a discussion of sexual assault? Something in your past you don't like to admit?
I know you're just going to get angry and call me names, but frankly, I think you protest a bit too much.

Your poorly thought out, "OH THAT POOR LADY" hysterics never upset anyone.


... says the upset guy rushing to shut me up, while quivering with tears of impotent rage. If it doesn't upset you, then why are you so angrily responding?
 
2013-02-09 03:01:35 PM  

WhippingBoy: Spaced Cowboy: Here are the full quotes from everyone living in 2013:

"STFU Theaetetus. No one gives a fark about your whiny feminist bullshiat."

I have to agree.  Theaetetus'heart is in the right place, but his constant whining is getting quite tiresome.


Whining is pretty much his whole schtick.  When you shut that down, he leaves the thread.  The quicker it's done, the better for the health of the thread, I've found.
 
2013-02-09 03:01:42 PM  

Theaetetus: Actually, it's a legal definition. Contrary to your apparent belief, I did not actually invent the phrase. Sorry to let you down.


Was that the case in 1945?
 
2013-02-09 03:03:02 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: An ugly, drunk chick kissed me in a bar without my permission. It was disgusting.


Sexism is about oppression; since society doesn't allow women to oppress men, women can't be sexist, no matter what they say or do. So your experience is not relevant to the topic at hand.
 
2013-02-09 03:03:41 PM  
In regards to the whole sexual assault claim:

OH MY GOD WHO CARES?

No. Seriously, STFU. You want to help women? Get off your fat ass and actually help women who are in danger right now. I don't care if the statue is a 200 ft tall statue of Bea Arthur being anally raped by Ron Jeremy. You'll do more to help women by donating time or money to a women's shelter than you will by biatching on the internet about a goddamned statue.

Start your white knighting here;
http://www.rainn.org/
 
2013-02-09 03:04:36 PM  
If the world today was in danger of being taken over by a crazy regime and it was thwarted, you'd probably see some unsavory celebrations that would nonetheless be remembered as a wonderful moment in history.
 
2013-02-09 03:05:01 PM  
Should have left it unpainted.
 
2013-02-09 03:05:54 PM  

Goiter: Summoner101:

There is a difference between understanding someone's behavior and accepting someone's behavior.  Since you're so high on that horse, I can see how you'd miss the difference.  But good job comparing a farking hockey game to the end of a bloody, worldwide war that significantly impacted our entire nation, even moreso our drafted military, for years during and after.

Yes there is, and your comment was clearly on the acceptance side. Especially damning is your attempt to lasso all of WWII and even warfare itself into your explanation. The only argument you have is heightened emotion, and that can be found equally at a riot or a celebration of noble victory, none of it justifiable for grabbing another human being.



Was the sailor in the wrong? Yes.
i>Can modern society really understand the emotions of people in Times Square on VE day? No.
So stop being obtuse. I shouldn't have to explain simple sentences to you. At this point though, I'm pretty sure you're just trolling with that last bit you added in since you're complaining about lassoing in all of WWII and warfare for a photo taken on farking VE day.
 
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