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(Time)   Chris Christie's weight is a non-issue, unless you're Christie's grocer   ( ideas.time.com) divider line
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2013-02-09 12:45:09 PM  
3 votes:

Old enough to know better: So its okay to make fat comments about this guy, but telling n**ger jokes about Obama is wrong and unfair?


Black is a skin color you're born with. Morbidly obese is a health problem you develop as you sit on your ass and shovel funnel cakes down your gullet. But yeah, I guess that's totally the same thing.
2013-02-09 08:25:55 AM  
3 votes:
If he expects to be President, his weight is a PR disaster. Stop pretending.
2013-02-09 03:11:58 PM  
2 votes:

Pincy: Needlessly Complicated: Is it cool to fat-shame people again, or is it only cool if they're liberals?

Micheal Moore is a fat guy.


And that has zero bearing on his ability to make movies that Republicans hate and refuse to watch.

If Michael Moore has a massive heart attack and spends a month in the hospital and his doctors tell him to avoid stressful activities, it has zero effect on the nation. Now if the President goes through the same ordeal, that's a big farking problem.

Being a whale of a human being geneally doesn't matter unless you are a really farking important person. Michael Moore, Rush Limbaugh, Paula Deen, and subby can all be fat without consequence to the nation.
2013-02-09 02:37:33 PM  
2 votes:

LoneWolf343: Because nobody fat has ever been president.


While true, don't you think modern presidential runs are just a LITTLE bit different than they were a hundred years ago?

That might be something for you to consider. Most everyone knows Taft was fat... Most everyone also knows that things are a lot different now.
2013-02-09 02:06:07 PM  
2 votes:
I see his weight as more of a reflection on his lack of personal responsibility than an actual health issue.  Most people are going to think that a man as heavy as he is does not have a lot of self-control.  Further, everyone (including Christie) knows that he needs to lose weight and the fact that he hasn't leads people to believe that he won't take responsibility for his health.  That he doesn't have the desire to do the right thing.

Right or wrong, a majority of the people in this country will view his obesity as a character flaw and not vote for him.  The health issues are secondary.
2013-02-09 01:43:28 PM  
2 votes:
I make all sorts of bad jokes here (as most of us do), but ragging on Christie for being fat isn't my style.

However, there are legit concerns about the health of the man who would be leading our country. If a Christie nomination actually happens, his VP would have to be the most vetted in history.

 As an aside - I think Christie is a jerk still benefiting from the one time he wasn't an asshole. That's just my opinion. Obama benefited from it, too, but I don't understand why our leaders actually doing their jobs is cause for celebration. It's like congratulating me for not beating my girlfriend. Some things in life are just expected of you.
2013-02-09 12:45:48 PM  
2 votes:

Old enough to know better: So its okay to make fat comments about this guy, but telling n**ger jokes about Obama is wrong and unfair?


Unless fat people are a race, you're just comparing apples to very fat oranges.

/Christie's weight is not a problem with me, it's his short-temper that's the real concern
2013-02-09 12:31:09 PM  
2 votes:

Godscrack: If people are only attacking him for his weight, he must be doing something right.


I don't mind his weight so much as him being an overly-sensitive rageaholic with a chip on his shoulder.
2013-02-09 12:30:49 PM  
2 votes:
when you just totally give up on the idea of a waist, and just arbitrarily ram a belt in there somewhere, why on earth would you pick that high?

if the guy was standing at a urinal, all he'd be able to do is scratch his belly button.
2013-02-09 11:54:15 AM  
2 votes:

GAT_00: St_Francis_P: Count on it. If they have an ounce of sense, the Dems will make him a walking joke.

There are dozens of legitimate concerns about Christie, and if they go after him because of that, they deserve to lose.


the health of a candidate is absolutely a serious concern.
2013-02-09 08:35:29 AM  
2 votes:
That doctor was exactly right.  The Presidency is incredibly stressful, which makes him having a heart attack all but guaranteed.
2013-02-10 04:08:16 PM  
1 vote:
Given that 2/3 of Americans are either overweight or obese, it seems that Christie would be the perfect candidate to appeal to the constituents.
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2013-02-10 11:12:13 AM  
1 vote:

wildcardjack: His real problem....

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I know a fat vegan. Carbs can be crap for a lot of people.




I knew a bunch if fat vegans in college, I called them french fry vegans. They were usually guys who went vegan to attract girls, and would eat their weight in fries and pasta.

Hell, my wife's housemate senior year went on a vegan raw diet and gained like 35lbs. I think she was sleep eating because I don't think carob and avocado shakes can pack on the pounds like that.
2013-02-10 12:33:04 AM  
1 vote:
Here is my biggest beef with C.C.

(paraphrasing)

"The law on sports betting is stupid, we aren't going to let a dumb Federal law like that stop us from making money on sports gambling, if they want to stop us they can go right ahead and try"

(1 week later)

"We can't possibly allow medical marijuana. It's against Federal law and to ignore Federal law is to discard rule of law and undermine the system. As gov of NJ I won't do it."
2013-02-09 05:10:07 PM  
1 vote:

DeaH: GAT_00: That doctor was exactly right.  The Presidency is incredibly stressful, which makes him having a heart attack all but guaranteed.

You know what? I don't trust it when doctors make diagnoses without examining the patient. I didn't trust it when Frist did it, and I don't trust it from this doctor.


Damn it, why do you people keep insisting she made a "diagnosis"? She did not write him script for Lipitor. She said she would like to support him but would "worry" about him dying in office.

That's not a farking diagnosis.

What Frist did was an actual diagnosis. He said a commatose patient was not in a vegetative state based upon video clips he saw. He's a smarmy Republican scumbag, this doctor is just a regular Republican.
2013-02-09 03:51:11 PM  
1 vote:

Don't Troll Me Bro!: GAT_00: Are there seriously people who won't vote for him because of his weight?

Polling after the first televised Presidential debate showed a large difference in impressions based on whether the debate was listened to on the radio, or watched on television.  People that listened showed a heavy lean that Nixon came across better, while people that watched showed a heavy lean towards Kennedy.  Appearance, sadly, matters a great deal.  For many voters, even though they don't realize it, appearance is more important than policy history, experience, and temperament.

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Taller, younger, fuller head of hair, more pleasant natural expression on the face, more handsome, and I would say his suit was a little nicer.  All these things impact voter impression.


I've definitely heard about that phenomenon before, and it's true as far as it goes, but I can't help but wonder if they controlled for other factors, like the age of the audiences.  Back when TV was a pretty new tech, it might well be that the older crowd, a demographic more inclined to go with Nixon, stuck more to the radio, while a younger audience, one that identified closer to Kennedy both in policies and in age, flocked to the newer medium.  I'm sure the presentation and appearance did matter to a degree, but I don't know that it was the thing and the whole of the thing, the way people talk about it now.
2013-02-09 03:48:46 PM  
1 vote:
Anyone who thinks Christie is "presidential material" for his being a bully is falling for the same Reagan-era "tough on commies and the ayatollah" horse sh*t that Ronnie fooled America with thirty years ago (and the US has been suffering the horrible effects of that mistake ever since).
2013-02-09 03:38:08 PM  
1 vote:

GAT_00: Are there seriously people who won't vote for him because of his weight?


Polling after the first televised Presidential debate showed a large difference in impressions based on whether the debate was listened to on the radio, or watched on television.  People that listened showed a heavy lean that Nixon came across better, while people that watched showed a heavy lean towards Kennedy.  Appearance, sadly, matters a great deal.  For many voters, even though they don't realize it, appearance is more important than policy history, experience, and temperament.

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Taller, younger, fuller head of hair, more pleasant natural expression on the face, more handsome, and I would say his suit was a little nicer.  All these things impact voter impression.
2013-02-09 02:02:52 PM  
1 vote:

Kurmudgeon: Well, I'm prejudiced against Christie. He's a Republican and it takes more than dieting to fix that.
/much more


Yarp. Christie's weight is not an issue. He's a repub and therefore by definition a manipulative, lying sack of shiat. I will never vote for a repub again, as long as I live. The cloned offspring of Mahatma Gandhi and Albert Schweitzer could run on the repub ticket and I wouldn't vote for him. Essentially anyone who identifies himself as a repub now is more or less saying "I'm interested in stealing poor people's money and watching them suffer while I take a gold-plated crap on my yacht.  Fark you."

Fark you.
2013-02-09 01:51:25 PM  
1 vote:
While I don't despise Christie as much as most of the GOP (because he shown he has the ability to set aside partisan bullshiat to actually do his job once in a while), his weight is an issue for me because of the health concerns that go along with it. That doesn't mean he can earn my vote, because he can't. The Republican brand is ruined for me. I'm still an independent and open to the possibility of finding a 3rd party candidate I could support, but regardless of the candidate, if they are a Republican they can't have my vote. They can't be trusted with power. They can't even be trusted to not have power. Simply put... they can't be trusted.
2013-02-09 01:06:07 PM  
1 vote:
Wasn't an entire wingnut campaign based on the notion that Al Gore was fat?
2013-02-09 01:05:47 PM  
1 vote:

St_Francis_P: TheHighlandHowler: I don't get it.  The list of (famous) heavy people who lost remarkable amounts of weight (often with 21st century medical assistance) continues to grow.  I'm sure farkers will add to this list but off the top of my head I'd cite Al Roker, Drew Carey, and Lisa Lampinelli.

He'd be playing right into Michelle Obama's hands if he lost weight. And that's the definition of socialism.


but only if he ate lots of arugula salad with dijon mustard vinaigrette. if instead he went full atkins, and ate only baby back ribs (or possibly just babies just kidding) he would prove that you only need bootstraps and tablescraps to accomplish anything
2013-02-09 01:02:53 PM  
1 vote:

Old enough to know better: Its still criticizing someone over inconsequential bullshiat.

Cristie: "We need to talk about this years budget."

"Oh yeah, well you're fat! Hahahah!"


Sorry but the health of a candidate for a position with a four year term is not inconsequential.

Remember the issue of Christy's weight recently came up when a registered Republican doctor answered a question by saying she would be worried about Chritsy dying in office due to health porblems that can be caused by obesity.

It was Christy flying off the handle in response that made this a such a story. Nobody would have cared if he would have just let it go and not said a word. Of course his health wouldn't be an issue if he wasn't such a tub of goo.
2013-02-09 01:00:56 PM  
1 vote:

MisterRonbo: Old enough to know better: So its okay to make fat comments about this guy, but telling n**ger jokes about Obama is wrong and unfair?

Remember when they kept fat people as slaves. And then spent a century denying them access to most educatiin, good jobs, and much housing? Or got those really thick ropes and lynched a few fatties?

Good times.


They had their own restrooms back then, too. With really wide doors.
2013-02-09 12:59:51 PM  
1 vote:
Heap's third law of Toast - the less intelligence or coherence a commenter displays, the more they will control the direction of conversation.
2013-02-09 12:58:01 PM  
1 vote:

Old enough to know better: So its okay to make fat comments about this guy, but telling n**ger jokes about Obama is wrong and unfair?


Remember when they kept fat people as slaves. And then spent a century denying them access to most educatiin, good jobs, and much housing? Or got those really thick ropes and lynched a few fatties?

Good times.
2013-02-09 12:50:28 PM  
1 vote:

Old enough to know better: So its okay to make fat comments about this guy, but telling n**ger jokes about Obama is wrong and unfair?


It is in poor taste to make fun of a person for something they can do nothing about: skin color, height, genetic handicaps, etc. Making fun of a fat guy is perfectly my acceptable because he is fat by his own doing. He chooses to be a manatee in a neck tie.
2013-02-09 12:41:09 PM  
1 vote:

Jake Havechek: I mean shiat, he looks like the goddamn Grimmis.

Does he speak Huttese?


What we really need is a president who understands the binary language of moisture vaporators.
2013-02-09 12:33:30 PM  
1 vote:

NotoriousW.O.P: Y'know, I think the author did make a salient point: is an obese 50-something any more of a health risk than someone in their 70s who has been treated for cancer (McCain, Biden) or blood clots (Hillary)?


Um, McCain's age and health condition indeed did come up for debate since we'd be left with Sarah Palin.
2013-02-09 12:33:28 PM  
1 vote:

NotoriousW.O.P: is an obese 50-something any more of a health risk than someone in their 70s who has been treated for cancer (McCain, Biden) or blood clots (Hillary)?


yah, but those things are frequently mentioned - mccain's health was absolutely a campaign issue. nobody really gives a shiat about the VP's health.

just sayin', balance that one out in both directions. if it's no more of a health risk, but those other people's health risks are openly discussed...why tip-toe around the fact that this guy isn't healthy?
2013-02-09 12:32:33 PM  
1 vote:

Fart_Machine: Given that, after hearing Dr. Mariano's claims, Christie's 12-year-old son asked him if he was going to die, Christie has every right to be outraged by what he called Mariano's "irresponsible" statement.

Oh geeze!  Your kid is 12 not 5.  It didn't hurt his precious psyche.  Stop bringing your kids into this, fatty.


If your son is 12 and he doesn't realize that everyone is going to die, then you need to sit him down and have a frank discussion with him about life.  Go ahead and break the news about Santa too him while your at it.

And if you not completely worn out by then, give him the birds and the bees talk and see what kind of advice he can give you in the bedroom.
2013-02-09 12:30:06 PM  
1 vote:
Y'know, I think the author did make a salient point: is an obese 50-something any more of a health risk than someone in their 70s who has been treated for cancer (McCain, Biden) or blood clots (Hillary)?
2013-02-09 12:27:05 PM  
1 vote:

GAT_00: St_Francis_P: Count on it. If they have an ounce of sense, the Dems will make him a walking joke.

There are dozens of legitimate concerns about Christie, and if they go after him because of that, they deserve to lose.


What if they go after him because of his weight in addition to all the other reasons? There's no reason that "morbidly obese" should be left off the list.
2013-02-09 12:25:35 PM  
1 vote:
Given that, after hearing Dr. Mariano's claims, Christie's 12-year-old son asked him if he was going to die, Christie has every right to be outraged by what he called Mariano's "irresponsible" statement.

Oh geeze!  Your kid is 12 not 5.  It didn't hurt his precious psyche.  Stop bringing your kids into this, fatty.
2013-02-09 08:57:55 AM  
1 vote:

GAT_00: Are there seriously people who won't vote for him because of his weight?


Count on it. If they have an ounce of sense, the Dems will make him a walking joke. Hard to recover from that sort of thing, as Mitt can testify.

My problem with him is his temper. The job requires a very even-tempered person, who is capable of absorbing a lot of casual abuse without going ballistic. Obama may be a Muslim Nazi socialist communist Kenyan usurper anti-Christ fifth columnist who should be tried at Nuremburg for high crimes against humanity, but most people will admit he's a pretty cool character.
2013-02-09 08:52:48 AM  
1 vote:

St_Francis_P: GAT_00: That doctor was exactly right.  The Presidency is incredibly stressful, which makes him having a heart attack all but guaranteed.

I can't argue, but first he has to be elected. I seriously doubt that will happen unless he loses a lot of weight.


Are there seriously people who won't vote for him because of his weight?

He's playing this all wrong.  Going all attack dog on a perfectly legitimate and very real concern will get you nowhere.  If this was about a candidate I would actually vote for, refusal to acknowledge the issue would be a real problem to me, because when it happened, they couldn't react to it right.

If this was me, I would be having regular checkups that were released, I would have an exercise plan worked out and released, and I would take a VP that was guaranteed to be ready to go when something happened, so they would have to be kept up to speed on everything.
 
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