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2013-02-09 07:14:17 AM  
t2.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-09 08:03:56 AM  
The invisible hand of the market will take care of this.  People will stop going to those sites once they realize they aren't the official ones, the owner will lose money and sell them.  Don't give up the dream Ron.
 
2013-02-09 08:10:16 AM  
Now that your campaigns are over and you no longer need us, you want to take it all away?

Well...yeah. No hard feelings. Black helicopters are on the way.
 
2013-02-09 10:09:21 AM  
Ah, the hypocrisy of "libertarianism". Government is EVIL, stealing your liberties at gun point... at least until I need it and then it's fine.
 
2013-02-09 10:11:04 AM  

Corvus: Ah, the hypocrisy of "libertarianism". Government is EVIL, stealing your liberties at gun point... at least until I need it and then it's fine.


This isn't anything new.

RON PAUL is ok with abuses of power and tyranny as long as its done on a state level.
 
2013-02-09 10:12:19 AM  
I serious hope that libertarian island gets created (I kind of doubt it will) because I would love to watch how the fail.

Most likely it would be like that family guy episode were Peter becomes a Tea Party member gets rid of government but then sets up a group that is 100% identical to government but called something else.
 
2013-02-09 10:14:04 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Corvus: Ah, the hypocrisy of "libertarianism". Government is EVIL, stealing your liberties at gun point... at least until I need it and then it's fine.

This isn't anything new.

RON PAUL is ok with abuses of power and tyranny as long as its done on a state level.


Or, apparently, at the international level.  It's that middle-of-the-road sized oppression that he really hates.
 
2013-02-09 10:14:04 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Corvus: Ah, the hypocrisy of "libertarianism". Government is EVIL, stealing your liberties at gun point... at least until I need it and then it's fine.

This isn't anything new.

RON PAUL is ok with abuses of power and tyranny as long as its done on a state level.


Well the UN is not really state level. Neither is the federal ban on same sex marriage that he also supports.

The guy is an ass and his followers are fools.
 
2013-02-09 10:15:30 AM  

Corvus: Mrtraveler01: Corvus: Ah, the hypocrisy of "libertarianism". Government is EVIL, stealing your liberties at gun point... at least until I need it and then it's fine.

This isn't anything new.

RON PAUL is ok with abuses of power and tyranny as long as its done on a state level.

Well the UN is not really state level. Neither is the federal ban on same sex marriage that he also supports.

The guy is an ass and his followers are fools.


I know some folks who buy into this scam sadly.

They're really nice people too.
 
2013-02-09 10:17:25 AM  
I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm still registered as a libertarian. I was even just across the hall from the county clerks office when I was getting my drivers license renewed a couple of days ago.

I guess I'm just lazy. Or hungover. Or tired. Or all three.

Either way. fark the LP and fark RON PAUL.
 
2013-02-09 10:18:05 AM  
i48.tinypic.com

What goes around comes around, Paulists.
 
2013-02-09 10:19:23 AM  
The United Nations controls the internet. Who else would he make a complaint to?
 
2013-02-09 10:19:45 AM  

log_jammin: I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm still registered as a libertarian. I was even just across the hall from the county clerks office when I was getting my drivers license renewed a couple of days ago.

I guess I'm just lazy. Or hungover. Or tired. Or all three.

Either way. fark the LP and fark RON PAUL.


To be fair, Ron Paul isn't a member of the Libertarian Party, he's just a Republican pretending to be a Libertarian.

But the LP is screwed up enough on its own without his help.
 
2013-02-09 10:20:31 AM  
'When I use a word,' RON PAUL said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.'

RON PAUL's stated views are ever-constant. His actual views are ever-changing.
 
2013-02-09 10:21:30 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Corvus: Mrtraveler01: Corvus: Ah, the hypocrisy of "libertarianism". Government is EVIL, stealing your liberties at gun point... at least until I need it and then it's fine.

This isn't anything new.

RON PAUL is ok with abuses of power and tyranny as long as its done on a state level.

Well the UN is not really state level. Neither is the federal ban on same sex marriage that he also supports.

The guy is an ass and his followers are fools.

I know some folks who buy into this scam sadly.

They're really nice people too.


I lost a good friend to the Paul cult this fall. Now the guy just yells at his neighbors and won't talk to anyone else.  Sad.
 
2013-02-09 10:22:39 AM  

badhatharry: The United Nations controls the internet.


Oh what a jokester you are. Ha ha ha

media.comicvine.com
 
2013-02-09 10:22:46 AM  

Mrtraveler01: log_jammin: I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm still registered as a libertarian. I was even just across the hall from the county clerks office when I was getting my drivers license renewed a couple of days ago.

I guess I'm just lazy. Or hungover. Or tired. Or all three.

Either way. fark the LP and fark RON PAUL.

To be fair, Ron Paul isn't a member of the Libertarian Party, he's just a Republican pretending to be a Libertarian.

But the LP is screwed up enough on its own without his help.


Oh I know. But the LP is filled with members who pretend they aren't republicans.
 
2013-02-09 10:24:19 AM  

log_jammin: Mrtraveler01: log_jammin: I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm still registered as a libertarian. I was even just across the hall from the county clerks office when I was getting my drivers license renewed a couple of days ago.

I guess I'm just lazy. Or hungover. Or tired. Or all three.

Either way. fark the LP and fark RON PAUL.

To be fair, Ron Paul isn't a member of the Libertarian Party, he's just a Republican pretending to be a Libertarian.

But the LP is screwed up enough on its own without his help.

Oh I know. But the LP is filled with members who pretend they aren't republicans.


Exactly my point.

It's a shame really.
 
2013-02-09 10:25:57 AM  
I remember when the Libertarians had alot of liberals in the party and were kinda left leaning. That does not seem to be the case anymore. Bunch a free market nutjobs who think Ann Rand is the second coming now it looks like. Now its like the Libertarians and Republicans are fighting to see who can be the bigger a-hole while both agreeing that democrats suck.
 
2013-02-09 10:26:03 AM  
log_jammin:  But the LP is filled with members who pretend they aren't republicans.

And one-issue "legalize it" stoners, who are too baked to notice the rest of the platform and think its sorta like Liberal, right man?
 
2013-02-09 10:28:01 AM  

ItchyMcDoogle: I remember when the Libertarians had alot of liberals in the party and were kinda left leaning. That does not seem to be the case anymore. Bunch a free market nutjobs who think Ann Rand is the second coming now it looks like. Now its like the Libertarians and Republicans are fighting to see who can be the bigger a-hole while both agreeing that democrats suck.


derpy: And one-issue "legalize it" stoners, who are too baked to notice the rest of the platform and think its sorta like Liberal, right man?


Maybe I should retract that, I'm old and it's been a long time since The Grateful Dead toured...
 
2013-02-09 10:31:06 AM  
John Galt sucked eggs.
 
2013-02-09 10:33:51 AM  

ItchyMcDoogle: I remember when the Libertarians had alot of liberals in the party and were kinda left leaning. That does not seem to be the case anymore. Bunch a free market nutjobs who think Ann Rand is the second coming now it looks like. Now its like the Libertarians and Republicans are fighting to see who can be the bigger a-hole while both agreeing that democrats suck.


You can count on two things from Republicans and libertarians to do without question. Side with business over workers and side with states over individuals.
 
2013-02-09 10:35:05 AM  

ItchyMcDoogle: I remember when the Libertarians had alot of liberals in the party and were kinda left leaning. That does not seem to be the case anymore. Bunch a free market nutjobs who think Ann Rand is the second coming now it looks like. Now its like the Libertarians and Republicans are fighting to see who can be the bigger a-hole while both agreeing that democrats suck.


That's because Republicans realize how embarrassing their policies have been and started to self-identify as "Independent" and "Libertarian." When Sean Hannity says he's a Libertarian then you know that brand is done and you need to burn it down and start over somewhere else.
 
2013-02-09 10:39:11 AM  

badhatharry: The United Nations controls the internet. Who else would he make a complaint to?


What a "bag hat" might look like:

superiorrealities.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-09 10:39:44 AM  

Jake Havechek: John Galt sucked eggs.


John Galt sucks wet farts from dead pigeons.

/May be somewhat obscure at this point
 
2013-02-09 10:41:11 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: The United Nations controls the internet. Who else would he make a complaint to?

What a "bag hat" might look like:

[superiorrealities.files.wordpress.com image 322x239]


"bad hat"

...you know what I mean
 
2013-02-09 10:48:16 AM  
John Galt = Polonius from Hamlet.
 
2013-02-09 10:53:01 AM  

James F. Campbell: John Galt = Polonius from Hamlet.


I had a hamlet for breakfast this morning.  I like em with some green pepper and onion, too.
 
2013-02-09 10:58:45 AM  

TiiiMMMaHHH: I had a hamlet for breakfast this morning. I like em with some green pepper and onion, too.


Yep, and you'll have a Galt later on the john.
 
2013-02-09 10:59:05 AM  
www.teufelaffe.com
 
2013-02-09 11:03:59 AM  

badhatharry: The United Nations controls the internet. Who else would he make a complaint to?


What an idiot. Barbara Streisand and Beyonce control the Internet.
 
2013-02-09 11:05:11 AM  

Corvus: I serious hope that libertarian island gets created (I kind of doubt it will) because I would love to watch how the fail.


For-profit ports have thrived in the past.  People who want only a little bit of anarchy, when it is favorable to them, would take advantage of such a place to get certain things done outside the reach of the governments of the nations they actually live and operate in.   As long as it remained small, it could live off of business from real nations.  If it ever started taking itself seriously as a nation in its own right, yeah, there would be a disaster.
 
2013-02-09 11:15:09 AM  
The UN should just Deniro it up.

"Well, well, look who's comin' back to the big bad United Nations, huh? Hey boys, lets bring 'im over in style. Bring out the big black helicopter."
 
2013-02-09 11:19:37 AM  

odinsposse: ItchyMcDoogle: I remember when the Libertarians had alot of liberals in the party and were kinda left leaning. That does not seem to be the case anymore. Bunch a free market nutjobs who think Ann Rand is the second coming now it looks like. Now its like the Libertarians and Republicans are fighting to see who can be the bigger a-hole while both agreeing that democrats suck.

That's because Republicans realize how embarrassing their policies have been and started to self-identify as "Independent" and "Libertarian." When Sean Hannity says he's a Libertarian then you know that brand is done and you need to burn it down and start over somewhere else.


Exactly. I was going to make a similar statement. That is part of what helped mess up Mitt Romney's own polling; the misconception he had the majority of "independent" voters and not realizing they were not true "independents", but Republicans. It has gotten to the point that most self-procalimed "Independents" are really just Republicans upset with the national party, but still vote a pretty much an all Republican ballot. Towards the end of the election, political pundits like John Avlon started using the term "centrist" voter to differentiate between them and the actual ideological "independent-minded" voters.

"Now its like the Libertarians and Republicans are fighting to see who can be the bigger a-hole while both agreeing that democrats suck."

A friend asked me to listen to Neil Boortz once, sayinghe was a "libertarian", not "Republican" and gave an "independent/common sense" perspective. So I gave dude a listen. He basically was a more bitter and less refined version of Rush Limbaugh. Your statement pretty much sums up Neil Boortz.

As far as Ron Paul goes,this just backs up my assertations I made after the racist fund raising newsletters in his name were revealed that Ron Paul claimed he had no part of. Ron Paul is nothing but a political charlatan.
 
2013-02-09 11:21:03 AM  

Corvus: I serious hope that libertarian island gets created (I kind of doubt it will) because I would love to watch how the fail.


It wouldn't fail.  It would abuse friendship with the US and cheap labor from somewhere else while not allowing any poors to actually be citizens.
 
2013-02-09 11:21:39 AM  
It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.
 
2013-02-09 11:25:10 AM  

badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.


I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM
 
2013-02-09 11:26:32 AM  

Corvus: I serious hope that libertarian island gets created (I kind of doubt it will) because I would love to watch how the fail.

Most likely it would be like that family guy episode were Peter becomes a Tea Party member gets rid of government but then sets up a group that is 100% identical to government but called something else.


Jon Stewart had an excellent takedown of Glenn Beck's hypothetical utopia. Highly recommend it:

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/31/jon_stewart_destroys_glenn_becks_utop i a/
 
2013-02-09 11:47:24 AM  
Go away old man.  Go away.
 
2013-02-09 11:56:42 AM  
I post this in nearly every Ron Paul thread because I feel it's prescient:


There is a special valueset that Ron Paul advocates, and this valueset always seems to attract the most fearlessly individualistic: Libertarians, militia groups, Objectivists, 4channers and teenage miscreants -- in other words, people who are total shiat-bags and want to live in a system where they are permitted to be total shiat-bags without consequence.

They call it "freedom", of course, but truth be known there are more important things in society than freedom, which to these people has been wrapped into its own religious mythology so pure and exalted that it has stunted their personal growth as normal, able-bodied, well-adjusted people ("freedom", after all, isn't a reason to do things; it is a rationalization for doing them).

They also subscribe to the Austrian School of Economics, which is an economic system that consists entirely of ideological catchphrases, talking points and flowing rhetoric deliberately left open to interpretation, has no scientific basis or any practical application, and conflicts with obvious empirical data (Austrian school is in opposition to empiricism. Their papers use no math, in a subject that is all about math). One of the most distinguishing characteristics of most followers of the Austrian school is that they often display a gross misunderstanding of modern economics.

But probably the worst thing about Ron Paul, his followers and their socio-political ideological underpinnings is their inherent belief that everyone will behave themselves if we all just leave each other alone. This ideal -- the honor system -- has never been known to work in any open system, location or culture in the history of the world.

Any philosophy (whether its political, or moral, or economic) that doesn't start with the basic premise that people are flaming assholes is fundamentally flawed.
 
2013-02-09 11:58:38 AM  
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

ahem

HAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2013-02-09 11:59:43 AM  

MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM


Well that's just common sense free market gumption.

Wait... does this mean RON PAUL only likes the free market when it when it works in his favor and not against?
 
2013-02-09 12:01:21 PM  
Do not say the name of our Savior, RON PAUL, in vain.
 
2013-02-09 12:04:34 PM  

Ishkur: I post this in nearly every Ron Paul thread because I feel it's prescient:


There is a special valueset that Ron Paul advocates, and this valueset always seems to attract the most fearlessly individualistic: Libertarians, militia groups, Objectivists, 4channers and teenage miscreants -- in other words, people who are total shiat-bags and want to live in a system where they are permitted to be total shiat-bags without consequence.

They call it "freedom", of course, but truth be known there are more important things in society than freedom, which to these people has been wrapped into its own religious mythology so pure and exalted that it has stunted their personal growth as normal, able-bodied, well-adjusted people ("freedom", after all, isn't a reason to do things; it is a rationalization for doing them).

They also subscribe to the Austrian School of Economics, which is an economic system that consists entirely of ideological catchphrases, talking points and flowing rhetoric deliberately left open to interpretation, has no scientific basis or any practical application, and conflicts with obvious empirical data (Austrian school is in opposition to empiricism. Their papers use no math, in a subject that is all about math). One of the most distinguishing characteristics of most followers of the Austrian school is that they often display a gross misunderstanding of modern economics.

But probably the worst thing about Ron Paul, his followers and their socio-political ideological underpinnings is their inherent belief that everyone will behave themselves if we all just leave each other alone. This ideal -- the honor system -- has never been known to work in any open system, location or culture in the history of the world.

Any philosophy (whether its political, or moral, or economic) that doesn't start with the basic premise that people are flaming assholes is fundamentally flawed.


Newsletter, etc.
 
2013-02-09 12:12:56 PM  

log_jammin: ItchyMcDoogle: I remember when the Libertarians had alot of liberals in the party and were kinda left leaning. That does not seem to be the case anymore. Bunch a free market nutjobs who think Ann Rand is the second coming now it looks like. Now its like the Libertarians and Republicans are fighting to see who can be the bigger a-hole while both agreeing that democrats suck.

You can count on two things from Republicans and libertarians to do without question. Side with business over workers and side with states over individuals.


I didn't leave the party it left me kinda thing.
 
2013-02-09 12:18:52 PM  

MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM


Well according to Ron Paul, fiat dollars are entirely worthless due to hyperinflation, so what exactly is the harm?

Seriously, though.  If the customer doesn't think the price is worth it, he is free not to pay for it.
 
2013-02-09 12:36:36 PM  
Have fun living in a banana republic everyone. I love the above statement about economics being a science, because people can obviously be used interchangeably as inputs/outputs, all that. Whatever. Hubris is a biatch.
 
2013-02-09 12:37:11 PM  
They built that.  Suck it Ron.
 
2013-02-09 12:38:53 PM  
Oh the schadenfreude. I swear I've got the biggest boney going right now.
 
2013-02-09 12:42:21 PM  

knowless: Have fun living in a banana republic everyone.


Can't we live in a better store in the mall besides that one?
 
2013-02-09 12:55:25 PM  

Mrtraveler01: knowless: Have fun living in a banana republic everyone.

Can't we live in a better store in the mall besides that one?


That's why I live in the back of a Hot Topic.
 
2013-02-09 01:00:54 PM  

MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM


And they claimed that the $250k wasn't for the domain, it was for their mailing list, which they want us to believe is a completely untapped resource that's actually worth that much. I don't think a buck fifty a name is anywhere near a reasonable price to charge for an email list that's probably half fake addresses and the other half people who are already on RON PAUL'S mailing list.
 
2013-02-09 01:17:06 PM  

rynthetyn: And they claimed that the $250k wasn't for the domain, it was for their mailing list, which they want us to believe is a completely untapped resource that's actually worth that much. I don't think a buck fifty a name is anywhere near a reasonable price to charge for an email list that's probably half fake addresses and the other half people who are already on RON PAUL'S mailing list.


Define "reasonable."

If you don't believe the price is "reasonable," you can turn down the transaction.  For instance, if you're dying of dehydration in the middle of a hurricane and a guy wants to charge you $500 for a bottle of Aquafina, Ron Paul thinks that's okay.  That's how free market principles apply to other people.  Why don't these same free market principles seem to apply to Ron Paul?

The owner of ronpaul.com paid $25,000 for the domain on ebay in 2008.  Since the seller wanted to get as high of a price as possible, I'm sure that the official Ron Paul campaign was alerted.  The Ron Paul campaign had more than enough money to pay for it, but they decided to funnel their campaign dollars into paying off Ron Paul's own family.  Now Ron Paul is demanding that the other person who did pay $25,000 for the domain to turn it over for free.

Explain how this is "reasonable."
 
2013-02-09 01:19:54 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Ishkur: I post this in nearly every Ron Paul thread because I feel it's prescient:


There is a special valueset that Ron Paul advocates, and this valueset always seems to attract the most fearlessly individualistic: Libertarians, militia groups, Objectivists, 4channers and teenage miscreants -- in other words, people who are total shiat-bags and want to live in a system where they are permitted to be total shiat-bags without consequence.

They call it "freedom", of course, but truth be known there are more important things in society than freedom, which to these people has been wrapped into its own religious mythology so pure and exalted that it has stunted their personal growth as normal, able-bodied, well-adjusted people ("freedom", after all, isn't a reason to do things; it is a rationalization for doing them).

They also subscribe to the Austrian School of Economics, which is an economic system that consists entirely of ideological catchphrases, talking points and flowing rhetoric deliberately left open to interpretation, has no scientific basis or any practical application, and conflicts with obvious empirical data (Austrian school is in opposition to empiricism. Their papers use no math, in a subject that is all about math). One of the most distinguishing characteristics of most followers of the Austrian school is that they often display a gross misunderstanding of modern economics.

But probably the worst thing about Ron Paul, his followers and their socio-political ideological underpinnings is their inherent belief that everyone will behave themselves if we all just leave each other alone. This ideal -- the honor system -- has never been known to work in any open system, location or culture in the history of the world.

Any philosophy (whether its political, or moral, or economic) that doesn't start with the basic premise that people are flaming assholes is fundamentally flawed.

Newsletter, etc.


While you're waiting for his, here is a RON PAUL newsletter.

i47.photobucket.com

/Never get tired of posting this
 
2013-02-09 01:32:04 PM  
"But is it really Ron Paul who is behind all this? Somehow we doubt it."

Even when he tries to take their toys away, RON PAUL cultists stand by their man.
 
2013-02-09 01:34:22 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Ishkur: I post this in nearly every Ron Paul thread because I feel it's prescient:


There is a special valueset that Ron Paul advocates, and this valueset always seems to attract the most fearlessly individualistic: Libertarians, militia groups, Objectivists, 4channers and teenage miscreants -- in other words, people who are total shiat-bags and want to live in a system where they are permitted to be total shiat-bags without consequence.

They call it "freedom", of course, but truth be known there are more important things in society than freedom, which to these people has been wrapped into its own religious mythology so pure and exalted that it has stunted their personal growth as normal, able-bodied, well-adjusted people ("freedom", after all, isn't a reason to do things; it is a rationalization for doing them).

They also subscribe to the Austrian School of Economics, which is an economic system that consists entirely of ideological catchphrases, talking points and flowing rhetoric deliberately left open to interpretation, has no scientific basis or any practical application, and conflicts with obvious empirical data (Austrian school is in opposition to empiricism. Their papers use no math, in a subject that is all about math). One of the most distinguishing characteristics of most followers of the Austrian school is that they often display a gross misunderstanding of modern economics.

But probably the worst thing about Ron Paul, his followers and their socio-political ideological underpinnings is their inherent belief that everyone will behave themselves if we all just leave each other alone. This ideal -- the honor system -- has never been known to work in any open system, location or culture in the history of the world.

Any philosophy (whether its political, or moral, or economic) that doesn't start with the basic premise that people are flaming assholes is fundamentally flawed.

Newsletter, etc.


Add me to the mailing list also please.

I must add though that it isn't really "free thought" that they want, they want everyone to think like them.  They seem to be so busy calling people who think differently "sheeple", they fail to realize that the only difference between them and the label they place on others is the shepherd who herds them.
 
2013-02-09 01:47:42 PM  

Troy McClure: "But is it really Ron Paul who is behind all this? Somehow we doubt it."

Even when he tries to take their toys away, RON PAUL cultists stand by their man.


I bet Obama got to him.
 
2013-02-09 01:57:21 PM  
Would someone explain to me just what the UN has to do with domain registration?
 
2013-02-09 01:58:54 PM  

mksmith: Would someone explain to me just what the UN has to do with domain registration?


RON PAUL!
 
2013-02-09 02:00:58 PM  

Smackledorfer: Corvus: I serious hope that libertarian island gets created (I kind of doubt it will) because I would love to watch how the fail.

It wouldn't fail.  It would abuse friendship with the US and cheap labor from somewhere else while not allowing any poors to actually be citizens.


Kuwait?
 
2013-02-09 02:11:34 PM  

mksmith: Would someone explain to me just what the UN has to do with domain registration?


Remember, these dumbasses think that the UN is really a Stonecutters-like shadow government that owns a fleet of armed helicopters, brainwashing experts and laser-toting unicorns. He probably expects them to smash through the window like it was an action movie and demand "His" domain back at gunpoint.
 
2013-02-09 02:21:03 PM  
More proof that RP is crazy as a shiat-house rat.
 
2013-02-09 02:21:39 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-09 02:39:15 PM  

Whodat: More proof that RP is crazy as a shiat-house rat.


Where are the usual ron paul supporters? I always assumed they weren't trolls, but I don't see any in this thread for some reason.
 
2013-02-09 02:41:48 PM  

Smackledorfer: Whodat: More proof that RP is crazy as a shiat-house rat.

Where are the usual ron paul supporters? I always assumed they weren't trolls, but I don't see any in this thread for some reason.


Don't you see? The UN controls the internet. Don't make me spell it out.
 
2013-02-09 02:42:37 PM  

Smackledorfer: Whodat: More proof that RP is crazy as a shiat-house rat.

Where are the usual ron paul supporters? I always assumed they weren't trolls, but I don't see any in this thread for some reason.


Say something about the Civil War, they'll be here like stink on shiat.
 
2013-02-09 02:53:59 PM  
Why does everyone make such a big deal over this guy?

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-09 02:54:45 PM  
Didn't Glenn Beck try this already?

As I recall, it didn't work out too well for him.
 
2013-02-09 03:02:24 PM  

MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM


That's the free market at work, is it not? I would have thought Mr Paul would be all over that like a fat kid on a donut.
 
2013-02-09 03:36:21 PM  
That new money newsletter is hilarious. I am currently reading "The Wealth of Nations", a little known book by a very obscure author, a man named John Smith (probably a pseudonym). It sounds to me like Ron Paul would totes hate this guy.

/totes.
 
2013-02-09 03:46:25 PM  

Troy McClure: "But is it really Ron Paul who is behind all this? Somehow we doubt it."

Even when he tries to take their toys away, RON PAUL cultists stand by their man.


well it has to be a conspiracy, probably involving the fed, black helicopters and agents of the NWO...otherwise the only logical conclusion is that RON PAUL! is a hypocrite, and that is just crazy talk.
 
2013-02-09 03:56:37 PM  
Oh come on, he's an okay guy aside from being a lunatic and a fraud.
 
2013-02-09 04:04:44 PM  

MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM


and the email list. they claim it alone is worth a quarter mil.
 
2013-02-09 04:19:09 PM  

derpy: log_jammin:  But the LP is filled with members who pretend they aren't republicans.

And one-issue "legalize it" stoners, who are too baked to notice the rest of the platform and think its sorta like Liberal, right man?


I'm friends with that guy.  He posts marijuana legalization and "audit the fed" articles to Facebook all the time.
 
2013-02-09 04:20:08 PM  
The Vietnam War was fought over a bet that Howard Hughes lost to Aristotle Onassis.
 
2013-02-09 04:33:18 PM  
Wait until he dies and the Church of RON PAUL starts up. It will make $cientology look tame.
 
2013-02-09 04:37:16 PM  

Corvus: I serious hope that libertarian island gets created (I kind of doubt it will) because I would love to watch how the fail.

Most likely it would be like that family guy episode were Peter becomes a Tea Party member gets rid of government but then sets up a group that is 100% identical to government but called something else.


Good luck finding any genuine libertarians who are actually willing to do the grunt work that underlies any functioning society. Not too many Koch Heads would want to work in the sewers, for instance, and I presume not too many regular folks would accept the slave labor conditions that the  Koch Heads would be offering unless they were coerced by force (it's no wonder these delusional farks are against genuine democracy).

Any society comprised exclusively of John Galts would devolve into "the Lord of the Flies" style anarchy in no time flat.

Sadly, one place that had been turned into a "free market" paradise was the Northern Mariana Islands, a US commonwealth that was allowed to be exempt from US labor laws thanks to folks like the former Republican Speaker of the House and jailbird, Tom Delay. The results?   Sweatshops, child labor, child prostitution, and even forced abortions.
 
2013-02-09 04:58:19 PM  
Can't type.  Laughing.

/OL
 
2013-02-09 05:18:17 PM  
ftfa: Back in 2007 we put our lives on hold for you, Ron, and we invested close to 10,000 hours of tears, sweat and hard work into this site at great personal sacrifice. We helped raise millions of dollars for you, we spread your message of liberty as far and wide as we possibly could, and we went out of our way to defend you against the unjustified attacks by your opponents.  Now that your campaigns are over and you no longer need us, you want to take it all away - and send us off to a UN tribunal?

That's not cool!


 [ilol'd]

It's always funny when a Paulite finally sees RP for who he really is, even if it's only a glimpse.

"And yeah, the scales fell from my eyes and I could see", and all that.
 
2013-02-09 05:30:44 PM  
<I>

From: "Singleton, Norman" [N­o­rm­a­n*Si­ng­l­eton[nospam-﹫-backwards]l­ia­m­*house*go­v]
To: "RonPaul.com" [sup­po­rt­[nospam-﹫-backwards]lua­p­n­or*com]
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 16:18:46 -0400

I like the site, thanks for all your doing

Norman Kirk Singleton
Legislative Director
</i>

Government employee emailing a campaign supporter from a government email during business hours. Whoops!
 
2013-02-09 05:54:22 PM  
"Dagny, Dagny, y'oughta go ahead and hang me...."
 
2013-02-09 06:17:34 PM  
Ron Paul put on a show. he seemed like a good candidate at first. i admit i campaigned for him. glad he didn't win. i learned later how terrible he really was.
 
2013-02-09 06:32:00 PM  
Ron could get on over to that butch and crazy Ren-Fair all the Teabillies are wet for.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-09 06:44:40 PM  

mksmith: Would someone explain to me just what the UN has to do with domain registration?


http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/center/faq/domains.html#7
 
2013-02-09 07:03:24 PM  

PapaChester: That new money newsletter is hilarious. I am currently reading "The Wealth of Nations", a little known book by a very obscure author, a man named John Smith (probably a pseudonym). It sounds to me like Ron Paul would totes hate this guy.

/totes.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-09 07:16:44 PM  
Wow.....what a hypocrite Ron Paul is, if this is true.....especially since RP was supposedly so against the UN

However, when you are a blithering Free Trader and Open Borders extremist.....like RP is....you support the exact same agenda the UN does.

This will kill his son Rand's any slight wet dream he may have had in being the next President.  The RP supporters were great fund raisers.
 
2013-02-09 07:56:20 PM  
It looks like a classic case of fraud.  If I tell people I represent you, it's called fraud unless I had your permission.  The letter clearly explains that the people who owned the domain have sold it before and are currently leasing it to Ron Paul's competitor (probably the republican party).

Remember Ron Paul had a bunch of douches in his campaign and some of them like Jess Benton sold Ron Paul's mailing list and other such doucheries.
 
2013-02-09 07:57:01 PM  

Paul Baumer: "Dagny, Dagny, oughta go ahead and hang me...."


I always thought the lyrics to that were "Da Nang me Da Nang me, get a rope and hang me".  A Vietnam protest song of some sort. Color me shocked, I learned something in a Ron Paul thread.
 
2013-02-09 08:49:50 PM  

tricycleracer: derpy: log_jammin:  But the LP is filled with members who pretend they aren't republicans.

And one-issue "legalize it" stoners, who are too baked to notice the rest of the platform and think its sorta like Liberal, right man?

I'm friends with that guy.  He posts marijuana legalization and "audit the fed" articles to Facebook all the time.


I've had to point out to a couple of stoners who liked RON PAUL because they thought he was for legalizing drugs that he is simply talking about ending any power the  federal government has to regulate drugs.  If a state wants to make it a capital offense to possess a joint, RON PAUL doesn't seem to have a problem with that.
 
2013-02-09 08:57:20 PM  
RON PAUL doesn't care about websites, because they aren't states.
 
2013-02-09 09:13:02 PM  

kg2095: MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM

That's the free market at work, is it not? I would have thought Mr Paul would be all over that like a fat kid on a donut.


Free market doesn't mean anarchy. Ron Paul is for trademarks and the protection of intellectual property. He has a case if he has trademarked his name.
 
2013-02-09 09:37:25 PM  

badhatharry: kg2095: MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM

That's the free market at work, is it not? I would have thought Mr Paul would be all over that like a fat kid on a donut.

Free market doesn't mean anarchy. Ron Paul is for trademarks and the protection of intellectual property. He has a case if he has trademarked his name.


If they really did try to get him to buy the domain earlier, I wouldn't bet on that. It's incumbent that you diligently assert ownership. You can't be made aware of something, let it slide for a few years and then decide you are being infringed.
 
2013-02-09 09:54:11 PM  
I wonder how long before the last lonely Paultard finally realizes how thoroughly they've been played, by both father and son?

Also, ICANN is not even close to being a UN agency, even though some UN states like Russia may wish for it to be. Neither the US or the EU have any intentions of letting that happen.
 
2013-02-09 10:16:43 PM  

Ray_Peranus: Ron Paul had a bunch of douches in his campaign


I really want to say something, but it's too easy.
 
2013-02-09 10:41:07 PM  

cc_rider: I wonder how long before the last lonely Paultard finally realizes how thoroughly they've been played, by both father and son?

Also, ICANN is not even close to being a UN agency, even though some UN states like Russia may wish for it to be. Neither the US or the EU have any intentions of letting that happen.


Right. ICANN is a private organization and usually when people register with them they agree to third party arbitration, which happens to be done through a UN agency (WIPO), but really they're paid fees to perform this service and the UN has no real direct control over the process. So it's sorta kinda a private arbitration situation despite the clear irony of Ron Paul going to a UN agency for help with an intellectual property case.

With that said, Paul (or his lawyers or whoever) is definitely in the wrong here. The domain names were bought well after he should have bought them, like 2008 or something. His campaign staff were so damned incompetent, generally shiatty really, that they just wouldn't buy the damned domain names. Who knows why they didn't. Maybe they thought they were too expensive. They were going for thousands at the time. But now it's too damned late. Tough luck. Deal with it. The thing is, most likely, WIPO will rule against Paul and for the current owners, who are freaking supporters (that's the most baffling part of this).

Jeez, Ron Paul, just get a domain like ronpaulliberty.org or ronpaulsite.com or something. It's not that farking hard.
 
2013-02-09 10:45:46 PM  

Ray_Peranus: It looks like a classic case of fraud.  If I tell people I represent you, it's called fraud unless I had your permission.  The letter clearly explains that the people who owned the domain have sold it before and are currently leasing it to Ron Paul's competitor (probably the republican party).

Remember Ron Paul had a bunch of douches in his campaign and some of them like Jess Benton sold Ron Paul's mailing list and other such doucheries.


Huh? How is it fraud? Did any of these websites say they were run by Ron Paul or that any of the content was supplied directly by Ron Paul?

The owners of the site are free to buy a domain name and write just about whatever the fark they want on it, especially about a public figure. They can talk about what a cockhole Ron Paul is or talk about what a saint he is. It doesn't matter.
 
2013-02-09 11:19:59 PM  
Now I hear that they offered to give him RonPaul.org for free if he would just leave them alone about the .com.

Jesus, Ron Paul. WTF?
 
2013-02-09 11:48:15 PM  

James F. Campbell: John Galt = Polonius from Hamlet.


Please expound on that.
 
2013-02-09 11:49:31 PM  

MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM


And?

Are you saying the free market shouldn't decide these things? What are you, some kind of commie like Ron Paul?
 
2013-02-10 12:33:03 AM  

eddiesocket: James F. Campbell: John Galt = Polonius from Hamlet.

Please expound on that.


You mean besides both being "tedious old fools"?

Do your own research. I refuse to post any valuable writing on Fark.
 
2013-02-10 12:54:43 AM  

James F. Campbell: eddiesocket: James F. Campbell: John Galt = Polonius from Hamlet.

Please expound on that.

You mean besides both being "tedious old fools"?

Do your own research. I refuse to post any valuable writing on Fark.


Come on, please? John Galt wasn't even old. Nor was he a fool (taken at face value in Ayn Rand's world). Polonious was the old busybody spying on people and getting accidentally killed. Galt was the pompous, impossibly perfect character  created by a sociopath. I really don't see the connection.
 
2013-02-10 01:41:00 AM  
Something about "to thine own self be true," as in when Galt was refusing to bow to the will of the government and rule them, but within their limitations?

Which was inane, but no more so than the rest of the book with its magical technology and men who could be both super-genius inventors, master-craft investors, perfect-prediction economists, AND the best fry cook ever because superior men are all superior all the time.
 
2013-02-10 06:51:20 AM  

Smackledorfer: Whodat: More proof that RP is crazy as a shiat-house rat.

Where are the usual ron paul supporters? I always assumed they weren't trolls, but I don't see any in this thread for some reason.


Right here. *waves*

And, I think he's barking up the wrong tree this time. Liking a guy for a job doesn't mean I'm with him 100% of the time. I don't really hero-worship.
 
2013-02-10 10:43:39 AM  
Christ, what an asshole.
 
2013-02-10 10:56:26 AM  
He's not the Messiah.  He's a very naughty boy.
 
2013-02-10 12:50:41 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

Yeah...nice castle. I'm sure that's a great defensive position.

dronewarsuk.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-10 01:24:56 PM  

odinsposse: ItchyMcDoogle: I remember when the Libertarians had alot of liberals in the party and were kinda left leaning. That does not seem to be the case anymore. Bunch a free market nutjobs who think Ann Rand is the second coming now it looks like. Now its like the Libertarians and Republicans are fighting to see who can be the bigger a-hole while both agreeing that democrats suck.

That's because Republicans realize how embarrassing their policies have been and started to self-identify as "Independent" and "Libertarian." When Sean Hannity says he's a Libertarian then you know that brand is done and you need to burn it down and start over somewhere else.


Ding-ding.  Glen Beck and Ann Coulter did their part. I WAS a registered libertarian in 1998-2007, re-registered as a Republican to vote for Paul int eh primary, and haven't bothered to vote since.  I'm now living in an entirely different state and I don't think I'll be bothering to re-register as anything ever again.  Ron Paul was the closest thing to an actual libertarian ideal that will ever exist in terms of politicans(Rand is an embarrasment), but he's retired now with no one stepping up to fill his shoes, so why bother?

There's no one left who even pretends to be anti-war, anti-tax, anti-government.  No one left that would say "NO."  Republicans are pro-war and are okay with government and taxes as long as they are in charge of it.  Democrats love government and look to it always for solutions to the littlest problems and want to tax everything, and they are okay with war as long as their people are in charge of it.

War is the health of the state, and since I want to choke the life out of the state I have no one left to represent me.

All government, of course, is against liberty.  - H. L. Mencken
 
2013-02-10 04:48:24 PM  

Jarhead_h: There's no one left who even pretends to be anti-war, anti-tax, anti-government. No one left that would say "NO." Republicans are pro-war and are okay with government and taxes as long as they are in charge of it. Democrats love government and look to it always for solutions to the littlest problems and want to tax everything, and they are okay with war as long as their people are in charge of it.


Not quite.

The truth is both Republicans and Democrats love big government though they employ it in different ways. Republicans use it to enforce moral righteousnous (ie: Prohibition, War on Drugs, church in state institutions, anti-gay crusades, pro-life) while Democrats use it to enforce social righteousnouss (ie: Civil Rights, women's rights, Title IX, immigration). And both use it for war.

The contradictory thing about this is they both publicly loathe big government at the same time, except when it's working in their favour. Republicans dislike when Democrats governments get in the way of business, while Democrats dislike when Republican governments get in the way of community.

Jarhead_h: All government, of course, is against liberty. - H. L. Mencken


What an interesting platitude, without thought or subtlety or nuance, but it feels true which is why Libertarians would like it. Tell me: How does the only entity that can bestow liberty also be the entity most against it?
 
2013-02-10 07:22:39 PM  

Jarhead_h: There's no one left who even pretends to be anti-war, anti-tax, anti-government.


If you want to elect someone who is anti-government to a government position, you're both probably better off staying home and taking your meds.  Though, if you think a modern government can exist without taxes, the meds probably won't help much.
 
2013-02-11 02:38:24 AM  

Ishkur:
Jarhead_h: All government, of course, is against liberty. - H. L. Mencken

What an interesting platitude, without thought or subtlety or nuance, but it feels true which is why Libertarians would like it. Tell me: How does the only entity that can bestow liberty also be the entity most against it?


Bestow liberty?  Liberty is the natural state of man.  It's what we were all born with and it cannot be granted, only infringed on.

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Jarhead_h: There's no one left who even pretends to be anti-war, anti-tax, anti-government.

If you want to elect someone who is anti-government to a government position, you're both probably better off staying home and taking your meds.  Though, if you think a modern government can exist without taxes, the meds probably won't help much.


Tell me, do you have basic reading comprehension skills?  Because when I said that I want to choke the life out of government, how was my intent in any way unclear?
 
2013-02-11 08:21:48 AM  

Jarhead_h: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Jarhead_h: There's no one left who even pretends to be anti-war, anti-tax, anti-government.

If you want to elect someone who is anti-government to a government position, you're both probably better off staying home and taking your meds.  Though, if you think a modern government can exist without taxes, the meds probably won't help much.

Tell me, do you have basic reading comprehension skills?  Because when I said that I want to choke the life out of government, how was my intent in any way unclear?



Ah, so you're one of those retards.  You want anarchy, chaos, and people back to living in small groups in mud huts and ruled over by the guy with the biggest weapons and willingness to use them.  Thanks for clearing that up so that the rest of us who have actually advanced past the beginning of the Holocene Era can safely ignore your ranting.

Translation for you: Jarhead_h idea BAD.
 
2013-02-11 09:18:35 AM  
Q. What's the difference between a Libertarian and an angry teenager?

A. Not a damn thing.
 
2013-02-11 10:43:02 AM  

I created this alt just for this thread: Q. What's the difference between a Libertarian and an angry teenager?


A: An angry teenager can be reasoned with
 
2013-02-11 11:50:20 AM  

Jarhead_h: Bestow liberty? Liberty is the natural state of man. It's what we were all born with and it cannot be granted, only infringed on.


Wrong.

Liberty cannot and DOES NOT exist as an independent value set. True freedom -- or property, or rights, or life, or ownership of things in a complex modern society -- is a social conceit, not an individual one. You can claim you are free but your freedom is meaningless if no one else recognizes that freedom. In other words, liberty is not an *I* thing, it is a *WE* thing.

Now, you need a system to honor your liberty, and to build the kind of infrastructure that makes your freedom meaningful, makes your property valuable, and makes your rights honorable. That kind of system entails rules, laws, government, and the social contract. Government is the only entity that can do these things. Not you. You have liberty only because others permit you.

What you are suggesting is that you want all the benefits and entitlements that living in a complex system entails but you don't want to pay your share to help maintain it. That makes you, among other things, a mooching, selfish libertarian scumbag.
 
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