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(RONPAUL.COM)   RON PAUL calls on United Nations to confiscate RONPAUL.com and RONPAUL.org from his supporters, says the New World Order doesn't seem so bad as long as he gets his money   (ronpaul.com) divider line 115
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2013-02-09 12:42:21 PM

knowless: Have fun living in a banana republic everyone.


Can't we live in a better store in the mall besides that one?
 
2013-02-09 12:55:25 PM

Mrtraveler01: knowless: Have fun living in a banana republic everyone.

Can't we live in a better store in the mall besides that one?


That's why I live in the back of a Hot Topic.
 
2013-02-09 01:00:54 PM

MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM


And they claimed that the $250k wasn't for the domain, it was for their mailing list, which they want us to believe is a completely untapped resource that's actually worth that much. I don't think a buck fifty a name is anywhere near a reasonable price to charge for an email list that's probably half fake addresses and the other half people who are already on RON PAUL'S mailing list.
 
2013-02-09 01:17:06 PM

rynthetyn: And they claimed that the $250k wasn't for the domain, it was for their mailing list, which they want us to believe is a completely untapped resource that's actually worth that much. I don't think a buck fifty a name is anywhere near a reasonable price to charge for an email list that's probably half fake addresses and the other half people who are already on RON PAUL'S mailing list.


Define "reasonable."

If you don't believe the price is "reasonable," you can turn down the transaction.  For instance, if you're dying of dehydration in the middle of a hurricane and a guy wants to charge you $500 for a bottle of Aquafina, Ron Paul thinks that's okay.  That's how free market principles apply to other people.  Why don't these same free market principles seem to apply to Ron Paul?

The owner of ronpaul.com paid $25,000 for the domain on ebay in 2008.  Since the seller wanted to get as high of a price as possible, I'm sure that the official Ron Paul campaign was alerted.  The Ron Paul campaign had more than enough money to pay for it, but they decided to funnel their campaign dollars into paying off Ron Paul's own family.  Now Ron Paul is demanding that the other person who did pay $25,000 for the domain to turn it over for free.

Explain how this is "reasonable."
 
2013-02-09 01:19:54 PM

Mrtraveler01: Ishkur: I post this in nearly every Ron Paul thread because I feel it's prescient:


There is a special valueset that Ron Paul advocates, and this valueset always seems to attract the most fearlessly individualistic: Libertarians, militia groups, Objectivists, 4channers and teenage miscreants -- in other words, people who are total shiat-bags and want to live in a system where they are permitted to be total shiat-bags without consequence.

They call it "freedom", of course, but truth be known there are more important things in society than freedom, which to these people has been wrapped into its own religious mythology so pure and exalted that it has stunted their personal growth as normal, able-bodied, well-adjusted people ("freedom", after all, isn't a reason to do things; it is a rationalization for doing them).

They also subscribe to the Austrian School of Economics, which is an economic system that consists entirely of ideological catchphrases, talking points and flowing rhetoric deliberately left open to interpretation, has no scientific basis or any practical application, and conflicts with obvious empirical data (Austrian school is in opposition to empiricism. Their papers use no math, in a subject that is all about math). One of the most distinguishing characteristics of most followers of the Austrian school is that they often display a gross misunderstanding of modern economics.

But probably the worst thing about Ron Paul, his followers and their socio-political ideological underpinnings is their inherent belief that everyone will behave themselves if we all just leave each other alone. This ideal -- the honor system -- has never been known to work in any open system, location or culture in the history of the world.

Any philosophy (whether its political, or moral, or economic) that doesn't start with the basic premise that people are flaming assholes is fundamentally flawed.

Newsletter, etc.


While you're waiting for his, here is a RON PAUL newsletter.

i47.photobucket.com

/Never get tired of posting this
 
2013-02-09 01:32:04 PM
"But is it really Ron Paul who is behind all this? Somehow we doubt it."

Even when he tries to take their toys away, RON PAUL cultists stand by their man.
 
2013-02-09 01:34:22 PM

Mrtraveler01: Ishkur: I post this in nearly every Ron Paul thread because I feel it's prescient:


There is a special valueset that Ron Paul advocates, and this valueset always seems to attract the most fearlessly individualistic: Libertarians, militia groups, Objectivists, 4channers and teenage miscreants -- in other words, people who are total shiat-bags and want to live in a system where they are permitted to be total shiat-bags without consequence.

They call it "freedom", of course, but truth be known there are more important things in society than freedom, which to these people has been wrapped into its own religious mythology so pure and exalted that it has stunted their personal growth as normal, able-bodied, well-adjusted people ("freedom", after all, isn't a reason to do things; it is a rationalization for doing them).

They also subscribe to the Austrian School of Economics, which is an economic system that consists entirely of ideological catchphrases, talking points and flowing rhetoric deliberately left open to interpretation, has no scientific basis or any practical application, and conflicts with obvious empirical data (Austrian school is in opposition to empiricism. Their papers use no math, in a subject that is all about math). One of the most distinguishing characteristics of most followers of the Austrian school is that they often display a gross misunderstanding of modern economics.

But probably the worst thing about Ron Paul, his followers and their socio-political ideological underpinnings is their inherent belief that everyone will behave themselves if we all just leave each other alone. This ideal -- the honor system -- has never been known to work in any open system, location or culture in the history of the world.

Any philosophy (whether its political, or moral, or economic) that doesn't start with the basic premise that people are flaming assholes is fundamentally flawed.

Newsletter, etc.


Add me to the mailing list also please.

I must add though that it isn't really "free thought" that they want, they want everyone to think like them.  They seem to be so busy calling people who think differently "sheeple", they fail to realize that the only difference between them and the label they place on others is the shepherd who herds them.
 
2013-02-09 01:47:42 PM

Troy McClure: "But is it really Ron Paul who is behind all this? Somehow we doubt it."

Even when he tries to take their toys away, RON PAUL cultists stand by their man.


I bet Obama got to him.
 
2013-02-09 01:57:21 PM
Would someone explain to me just what the UN has to do with domain registration?
 
2013-02-09 01:58:54 PM

mksmith: Would someone explain to me just what the UN has to do with domain registration?


RON PAUL!
 
2013-02-09 02:00:58 PM

Smackledorfer: Corvus: I serious hope that libertarian island gets created (I kind of doubt it will) because I would love to watch how the fail.

It wouldn't fail.  It would abuse friendship with the US and cheap labor from somewhere else while not allowing any poors to actually be citizens.


Kuwait?
 
2013-02-09 02:11:34 PM

mksmith: Would someone explain to me just what the UN has to do with domain registration?


Remember, these dumbasses think that the UN is really a Stonecutters-like shadow government that owns a fleet of armed helicopters, brainwashing experts and laser-toting unicorns. He probably expects them to smash through the window like it was an action movie and demand "His" domain back at gunpoint.
 
2013-02-09 02:21:03 PM
More proof that RP is crazy as a shiat-house rat.
 
2013-02-09 02:21:39 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-09 02:39:15 PM

Whodat: More proof that RP is crazy as a shiat-house rat.


Where are the usual ron paul supporters? I always assumed they weren't trolls, but I don't see any in this thread for some reason.
 
2013-02-09 02:41:48 PM

Smackledorfer: Whodat: More proof that RP is crazy as a shiat-house rat.

Where are the usual ron paul supporters? I always assumed they weren't trolls, but I don't see any in this thread for some reason.


Don't you see? The UN controls the internet. Don't make me spell it out.
 
2013-02-09 02:42:37 PM

Smackledorfer: Whodat: More proof that RP is crazy as a shiat-house rat.

Where are the usual ron paul supporters? I always assumed they weren't trolls, but I don't see any in this thread for some reason.


Say something about the Civil War, they'll be here like stink on shiat.
 
2013-02-09 02:53:59 PM
Why does everyone make such a big deal over this guy?

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-09 02:54:45 PM
Didn't Glenn Beck try this already?

As I recall, it didn't work out too well for him.
 
2013-02-09 03:02:24 PM

MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM


That's the free market at work, is it not? I would have thought Mr Paul would be all over that like a fat kid on a donut.
 
2013-02-09 03:36:21 PM
That new money newsletter is hilarious. I am currently reading "The Wealth of Nations", a little known book by a very obscure author, a man named John Smith (probably a pseudonym). It sounds to me like Ron Paul would totes hate this guy.

/totes.
 
2013-02-09 03:46:25 PM

Troy McClure: "But is it really Ron Paul who is behind all this? Somehow we doubt it."

Even when he tries to take their toys away, RON PAUL cultists stand by their man.


well it has to be a conspiracy, probably involving the fed, black helicopters and agents of the NWO...otherwise the only logical conclusion is that RON PAUL! is a hypocrite, and that is just crazy talk.
 
2013-02-09 03:56:37 PM
Oh come on, he's an okay guy aside from being a lunatic and a fraud.
 
2013-02-09 04:04:44 PM

MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM


and the email list. they claim it alone is worth a quarter mil.
 
2013-02-09 04:19:09 PM

derpy: log_jammin:  But the LP is filled with members who pretend they aren't republicans.

And one-issue "legalize it" stoners, who are too baked to notice the rest of the platform and think its sorta like Liberal, right man?


I'm friends with that guy.  He posts marijuana legalization and "audit the fed" articles to Facebook all the time.
 
2013-02-09 04:20:08 PM
The Vietnam War was fought over a bet that Howard Hughes lost to Aristotle Onassis.
 
2013-02-09 04:33:18 PM
Wait until he dies and the Church of RON PAUL starts up. It will make $cientology look tame.
 
2013-02-09 04:37:16 PM

Corvus: I serious hope that libertarian island gets created (I kind of doubt it will) because I would love to watch how the fail.

Most likely it would be like that family guy episode were Peter becomes a Tea Party member gets rid of government but then sets up a group that is 100% identical to government but called something else.


Good luck finding any genuine libertarians who are actually willing to do the grunt work that underlies any functioning society. Not too many Koch Heads would want to work in the sewers, for instance, and I presume not too many regular folks would accept the slave labor conditions that the  Koch Heads would be offering unless they were coerced by force (it's no wonder these delusional farks are against genuine democracy).

Any society comprised exclusively of John Galts would devolve into "the Lord of the Flies" style anarchy in no time flat.

Sadly, one place that had been turned into a "free market" paradise was the Northern Mariana Islands, a US commonwealth that was allowed to be exempt from US labor laws thanks to folks like the former Republican Speaker of the House and jailbird, Tom Delay. The results?   Sweatshops, child labor, child prostitution, and even forced abortions.
 
2013-02-09 04:58:19 PM
Can't type.  Laughing.

/OL
 
2013-02-09 05:18:17 PM
ftfa: Back in 2007 we put our lives on hold for you, Ron, and we invested close to 10,000 hours of tears, sweat and hard work into this site at great personal sacrifice. We helped raise millions of dollars for you, we spread your message of liberty as far and wide as we possibly could, and we went out of our way to defend you against the unjustified attacks by your opponents.  Now that your campaigns are over and you no longer need us, you want to take it all away - and send us off to a UN tribunal?

That's not cool!


 [ilol'd]

It's always funny when a Paulite finally sees RP for who he really is, even if it's only a glimpse.

"And yeah, the scales fell from my eyes and I could see", and all that.
 
2013-02-09 05:30:44 PM
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Government employee emailing a campaign supporter from a government email during business hours. Whoops!
 
2013-02-09 05:54:22 PM
"Dagny, Dagny, y'oughta go ahead and hang me...."
 
2013-02-09 06:17:34 PM
Ron Paul put on a show. he seemed like a good candidate at first. i admit i campaigned for him. glad he didn't win. i learned later how terrible he really was.
 
2013-02-09 06:32:00 PM
Ron could get on over to that butch and crazy Ren-Fair all the Teabillies are wet for.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-09 06:44:40 PM

mksmith: Would someone explain to me just what the UN has to do with domain registration?


http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/center/faq/domains.html#7
 
2013-02-09 07:03:24 PM

PapaChester: That new money newsletter is hilarious. I am currently reading "The Wealth of Nations", a little known book by a very obscure author, a man named John Smith (probably a pseudonym). It sounds to me like Ron Paul would totes hate this guy.

/totes.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-09 07:16:44 PM
Wow.....what a hypocrite Ron Paul is, if this is true.....especially since RP was supposedly so against the UN

However, when you are a blithering Free Trader and Open Borders extremist.....like RP is....you support the exact same agenda the UN does.

This will kill his son Rand's any slight wet dream he may have had in being the next President.  The RP supporters were great fund raisers.
 
2013-02-09 07:56:20 PM
It looks like a classic case of fraud.  If I tell people I represent you, it's called fraud unless I had your permission.  The letter clearly explains that the people who owned the domain have sold it before and are currently leasing it to Ron Paul's competitor (probably the republican party).

Remember Ron Paul had a bunch of douches in his campaign and some of them like Jess Benton sold Ron Paul's mailing list and other such doucheries.
 
2013-02-09 07:57:01 PM

Paul Baumer: "Dagny, Dagny, oughta go ahead and hang me...."


I always thought the lyrics to that were "Da Nang me Da Nang me, get a rope and hang me".  A Vietnam protest song of some sort. Color me shocked, I learned something in a Ron Paul thread.
 
2013-02-09 08:49:50 PM

tricycleracer: derpy: log_jammin:  But the LP is filled with members who pretend they aren't republicans.

And one-issue "legalize it" stoners, who are too baked to notice the rest of the platform and think its sorta like Liberal, right man?

I'm friends with that guy.  He posts marijuana legalization and "audit the fed" articles to Facebook all the time.


I've had to point out to a couple of stoners who liked RON PAUL because they thought he was for legalizing drugs that he is simply talking about ending any power the  federal government has to regulate drugs.  If a state wants to make it a capital offense to possess a joint, RON PAUL doesn't seem to have a problem with that.
 
2013-02-09 08:57:20 PM
RON PAUL doesn't care about websites, because they aren't states.
 
2013-02-09 09:13:02 PM

kg2095: MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM

That's the free market at work, is it not? I would have thought Mr Paul would be all over that like a fat kid on a donut.


Free market doesn't mean anarchy. Ron Paul is for trademarks and the protection of intellectual property. He has a case if he has trademarked his name.
 
2013-02-09 09:37:25 PM

badhatharry: kg2095: MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM

That's the free market at work, is it not? I would have thought Mr Paul would be all over that like a fat kid on a donut.

Free market doesn't mean anarchy. Ron Paul is for trademarks and the protection of intellectual property. He has a case if he has trademarked his name.


If they really did try to get him to buy the domain earlier, I wouldn't bet on that. It's incumbent that you diligently assert ownership. You can't be made aware of something, let it slide for a few years and then decide you are being infringed.
 
2013-02-09 09:54:11 PM
I wonder how long before the last lonely Paultard finally realizes how thoroughly they've been played, by both father and son?

Also, ICANN is not even close to being a UN agency, even though some UN states like Russia may wish for it to be. Neither the US or the EU have any intentions of letting that happen.
 
2013-02-09 10:16:43 PM

Ray_Peranus: Ron Paul had a bunch of douches in his campaign


I really want to say something, but it's too easy.
 
2013-02-09 10:41:07 PM

cc_rider: I wonder how long before the last lonely Paultard finally realizes how thoroughly they've been played, by both father and son?

Also, ICANN is not even close to being a UN agency, even though some UN states like Russia may wish for it to be. Neither the US or the EU have any intentions of letting that happen.


Right. ICANN is a private organization and usually when people register with them they agree to third party arbitration, which happens to be done through a UN agency (WIPO), but really they're paid fees to perform this service and the UN has no real direct control over the process. So it's sorta kinda a private arbitration situation despite the clear irony of Ron Paul going to a UN agency for help with an intellectual property case.

With that said, Paul (or his lawyers or whoever) is definitely in the wrong here. The domain names were bought well after he should have bought them, like 2008 or something. His campaign staff were so damned incompetent, generally shiatty really, that they just wouldn't buy the damned domain names. Who knows why they didn't. Maybe they thought they were too expensive. They were going for thousands at the time. But now it's too damned late. Tough luck. Deal with it. The thing is, most likely, WIPO will rule against Paul and for the current owners, who are freaking supporters (that's the most baffling part of this).

Jeez, Ron Paul, just get a domain like ronpaulliberty.org or ronpaulsite.com or something. It's not that farking hard.
 
2013-02-09 10:45:46 PM

Ray_Peranus: It looks like a classic case of fraud.  If I tell people I represent you, it's called fraud unless I had your permission.  The letter clearly explains that the people who owned the domain have sold it before and are currently leasing it to Ron Paul's competitor (probably the republican party).

Remember Ron Paul had a bunch of douches in his campaign and some of them like Jess Benton sold Ron Paul's mailing list and other such doucheries.


Huh? How is it fraud? Did any of these websites say they were run by Ron Paul or that any of the content was supplied directly by Ron Paul?

The owners of the site are free to buy a domain name and write just about whatever the fark they want on it, especially about a public figure. They can talk about what a cockhole Ron Paul is or talk about what a saint he is. It doesn't matter.
 
2013-02-09 11:19:59 PM
Now I hear that they offered to give him RonPaul.org for free if he would just leave them alone about the .com.

Jesus, Ron Paul. WTF?
 
2013-02-09 11:48:15 PM

James F. Campbell: John Galt = Polonius from Hamlet.


Please expound on that.
 
2013-02-09 11:49:31 PM

MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM


And?

Are you saying the free market shouldn't decide these things? What are you, some kind of commie like Ron Paul?
 
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