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(RONPAUL.COM)   RON PAUL calls on United Nations to confiscate RONPAUL.com and RONPAUL.org from his supporters, says the New World Order doesn't seem so bad as long as he gets his money   (ronpaul.com) divider line 115
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2013-02-09 07:14:17 AM
t2.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-09 08:03:56 AM
The invisible hand of the market will take care of this.  People will stop going to those sites once they realize they aren't the official ones, the owner will lose money and sell them.  Don't give up the dream Ron.
 
2013-02-09 08:10:16 AM
Now that your campaigns are over and you no longer need us, you want to take it all away?

Well...yeah. No hard feelings. Black helicopters are on the way.
 
2013-02-09 10:09:21 AM
Ah, the hypocrisy of "libertarianism". Government is EVIL, stealing your liberties at gun point... at least until I need it and then it's fine.
 
2013-02-09 10:11:04 AM

Corvus: Ah, the hypocrisy of "libertarianism". Government is EVIL, stealing your liberties at gun point... at least until I need it and then it's fine.


This isn't anything new.

RON PAUL is ok with abuses of power and tyranny as long as its done on a state level.
 
2013-02-09 10:12:19 AM
I serious hope that libertarian island gets created (I kind of doubt it will) because I would love to watch how the fail.

Most likely it would be like that family guy episode were Peter becomes a Tea Party member gets rid of government but then sets up a group that is 100% identical to government but called something else.
 
2013-02-09 10:14:04 AM

Mrtraveler01: Corvus: Ah, the hypocrisy of "libertarianism". Government is EVIL, stealing your liberties at gun point... at least until I need it and then it's fine.

This isn't anything new.

RON PAUL is ok with abuses of power and tyranny as long as its done on a state level.


Or, apparently, at the international level.  It's that middle-of-the-road sized oppression that he really hates.
 
2013-02-09 10:14:04 AM

Mrtraveler01: Corvus: Ah, the hypocrisy of "libertarianism". Government is EVIL, stealing your liberties at gun point... at least until I need it and then it's fine.

This isn't anything new.

RON PAUL is ok with abuses of power and tyranny as long as its done on a state level.


Well the UN is not really state level. Neither is the federal ban on same sex marriage that he also supports.

The guy is an ass and his followers are fools.
 
2013-02-09 10:15:30 AM

Corvus: Mrtraveler01: Corvus: Ah, the hypocrisy of "libertarianism". Government is EVIL, stealing your liberties at gun point... at least until I need it and then it's fine.

This isn't anything new.

RON PAUL is ok with abuses of power and tyranny as long as its done on a state level.

Well the UN is not really state level. Neither is the federal ban on same sex marriage that he also supports.

The guy is an ass and his followers are fools.


I know some folks who buy into this scam sadly.

They're really nice people too.
 
2013-02-09 10:17:25 AM
I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm still registered as a libertarian. I was even just across the hall from the county clerks office when I was getting my drivers license renewed a couple of days ago.

I guess I'm just lazy. Or hungover. Or tired. Or all three.

Either way. fark the LP and fark RON PAUL.
 
2013-02-09 10:18:05 AM
i48.tinypic.com

What goes around comes around, Paulists.
 
2013-02-09 10:19:23 AM
The United Nations controls the internet. Who else would he make a complaint to?
 
2013-02-09 10:19:45 AM

log_jammin: I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm still registered as a libertarian. I was even just across the hall from the county clerks office when I was getting my drivers license renewed a couple of days ago.

I guess I'm just lazy. Or hungover. Or tired. Or all three.

Either way. fark the LP and fark RON PAUL.


To be fair, Ron Paul isn't a member of the Libertarian Party, he's just a Republican pretending to be a Libertarian.

But the LP is screwed up enough on its own without his help.
 
2013-02-09 10:20:31 AM
'When I use a word,' RON PAUL said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.'

RON PAUL's stated views are ever-constant. His actual views are ever-changing.
 
2013-02-09 10:21:30 AM

Mrtraveler01: Corvus: Mrtraveler01: Corvus: Ah, the hypocrisy of "libertarianism". Government is EVIL, stealing your liberties at gun point... at least until I need it and then it's fine.

This isn't anything new.

RON PAUL is ok with abuses of power and tyranny as long as its done on a state level.

Well the UN is not really state level. Neither is the federal ban on same sex marriage that he also supports.

The guy is an ass and his followers are fools.

I know some folks who buy into this scam sadly.

They're really nice people too.


I lost a good friend to the Paul cult this fall. Now the guy just yells at his neighbors and won't talk to anyone else.  Sad.
 
2013-02-09 10:22:39 AM

badhatharry: The United Nations controls the internet.


Oh what a jokester you are. Ha ha ha

media.comicvine.com
 
2013-02-09 10:22:46 AM

Mrtraveler01: log_jammin: I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm still registered as a libertarian. I was even just across the hall from the county clerks office when I was getting my drivers license renewed a couple of days ago.

I guess I'm just lazy. Or hungover. Or tired. Or all three.

Either way. fark the LP and fark RON PAUL.

To be fair, Ron Paul isn't a member of the Libertarian Party, he's just a Republican pretending to be a Libertarian.

But the LP is screwed up enough on its own without his help.


Oh I know. But the LP is filled with members who pretend they aren't republicans.
 
2013-02-09 10:24:19 AM

log_jammin: Mrtraveler01: log_jammin: I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm still registered as a libertarian. I was even just across the hall from the county clerks office when I was getting my drivers license renewed a couple of days ago.

I guess I'm just lazy. Or hungover. Or tired. Or all three.

Either way. fark the LP and fark RON PAUL.

To be fair, Ron Paul isn't a member of the Libertarian Party, he's just a Republican pretending to be a Libertarian.

But the LP is screwed up enough on its own without his help.

Oh I know. But the LP is filled with members who pretend they aren't republicans.


Exactly my point.

It's a shame really.
 
2013-02-09 10:25:57 AM
I remember when the Libertarians had alot of liberals in the party and were kinda left leaning. That does not seem to be the case anymore. Bunch a free market nutjobs who think Ann Rand is the second coming now it looks like. Now its like the Libertarians and Republicans are fighting to see who can be the bigger a-hole while both agreeing that democrats suck.
 
2013-02-09 10:26:03 AM
log_jammin:  But the LP is filled with members who pretend they aren't republicans.

And one-issue "legalize it" stoners, who are too baked to notice the rest of the platform and think its sorta like Liberal, right man?
 
2013-02-09 10:28:01 AM

ItchyMcDoogle: I remember when the Libertarians had alot of liberals in the party and were kinda left leaning. That does not seem to be the case anymore. Bunch a free market nutjobs who think Ann Rand is the second coming now it looks like. Now its like the Libertarians and Republicans are fighting to see who can be the bigger a-hole while both agreeing that democrats suck.


derpy: And one-issue "legalize it" stoners, who are too baked to notice the rest of the platform and think its sorta like Liberal, right man?


Maybe I should retract that, I'm old and it's been a long time since The Grateful Dead toured...
 
2013-02-09 10:31:06 AM
John Galt sucked eggs.
 
2013-02-09 10:33:51 AM

ItchyMcDoogle: I remember when the Libertarians had alot of liberals in the party and were kinda left leaning. That does not seem to be the case anymore. Bunch a free market nutjobs who think Ann Rand is the second coming now it looks like. Now its like the Libertarians and Republicans are fighting to see who can be the bigger a-hole while both agreeing that democrats suck.


You can count on two things from Republicans and libertarians to do without question. Side with business over workers and side with states over individuals.
 
2013-02-09 10:35:05 AM

ItchyMcDoogle: I remember when the Libertarians had alot of liberals in the party and were kinda left leaning. That does not seem to be the case anymore. Bunch a free market nutjobs who think Ann Rand is the second coming now it looks like. Now its like the Libertarians and Republicans are fighting to see who can be the bigger a-hole while both agreeing that democrats suck.


That's because Republicans realize how embarrassing their policies have been and started to self-identify as "Independent" and "Libertarian." When Sean Hannity says he's a Libertarian then you know that brand is done and you need to burn it down and start over somewhere else.
 
2013-02-09 10:39:11 AM

badhatharry: The United Nations controls the internet. Who else would he make a complaint to?


What a "bag hat" might look like:

superiorrealities.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-09 10:39:44 AM

Jake Havechek: John Galt sucked eggs.


John Galt sucks wet farts from dead pigeons.

/May be somewhat obscure at this point
 
2013-02-09 10:41:11 AM

Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: The United Nations controls the internet. Who else would he make a complaint to?

What a "bag hat" might look like:

[superiorrealities.files.wordpress.com image 322x239]


"bad hat"

...you know what I mean
 
2013-02-09 10:48:16 AM
John Galt = Polonius from Hamlet.
 
2013-02-09 10:53:01 AM

James F. Campbell: John Galt = Polonius from Hamlet.


I had a hamlet for breakfast this morning.  I like em with some green pepper and onion, too.
 
2013-02-09 10:58:45 AM

TiiiMMMaHHH: I had a hamlet for breakfast this morning. I like em with some green pepper and onion, too.


Yep, and you'll have a Galt later on the john.
 
2013-02-09 10:59:05 AM
www.teufelaffe.com
 
2013-02-09 11:03:59 AM

badhatharry: The United Nations controls the internet. Who else would he make a complaint to?


What an idiot. Barbara Streisand and Beyonce control the Internet.
 
2013-02-09 11:05:11 AM

Corvus: I serious hope that libertarian island gets created (I kind of doubt it will) because I would love to watch how the fail.


For-profit ports have thrived in the past.  People who want only a little bit of anarchy, when it is favorable to them, would take advantage of such a place to get certain things done outside the reach of the governments of the nations they actually live and operate in.   As long as it remained small, it could live off of business from real nations.  If it ever started taking itself seriously as a nation in its own right, yeah, there would be a disaster.
 
2013-02-09 11:15:09 AM
The UN should just Deniro it up.

"Well, well, look who's comin' back to the big bad United Nations, huh? Hey boys, lets bring 'im over in style. Bring out the big black helicopter."
 
2013-02-09 11:19:37 AM

odinsposse: ItchyMcDoogle: I remember when the Libertarians had alot of liberals in the party and were kinda left leaning. That does not seem to be the case anymore. Bunch a free market nutjobs who think Ann Rand is the second coming now it looks like. Now its like the Libertarians and Republicans are fighting to see who can be the bigger a-hole while both agreeing that democrats suck.

That's because Republicans realize how embarrassing their policies have been and started to self-identify as "Independent" and "Libertarian." When Sean Hannity says he's a Libertarian then you know that brand is done and you need to burn it down and start over somewhere else.


Exactly. I was going to make a similar statement. That is part of what helped mess up Mitt Romney's own polling; the misconception he had the majority of "independent" voters and not realizing they were not true "independents", but Republicans. It has gotten to the point that most self-procalimed "Independents" are really just Republicans upset with the national party, but still vote a pretty much an all Republican ballot. Towards the end of the election, political pundits like John Avlon started using the term "centrist" voter to differentiate between them and the actual ideological "independent-minded" voters.

"Now its like the Libertarians and Republicans are fighting to see who can be the bigger a-hole while both agreeing that democrats suck."

A friend asked me to listen to Neil Boortz once, sayinghe was a "libertarian", not "Republican" and gave an "independent/common sense" perspective. So I gave dude a listen. He basically was a more bitter and less refined version of Rush Limbaugh. Your statement pretty much sums up Neil Boortz.

As far as Ron Paul goes,this just backs up my assertations I made after the racist fund raising newsletters in his name were revealed that Ron Paul claimed he had no part of. Ron Paul is nothing but a political charlatan.
 
2013-02-09 11:21:03 AM

Corvus: I serious hope that libertarian island gets created (I kind of doubt it will) because I would love to watch how the fail.


It wouldn't fail.  It would abuse friendship with the US and cheap labor from somewhere else while not allowing any poors to actually be citizens.
 
2013-02-09 11:21:39 AM
It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.
 
2013-02-09 11:25:10 AM

badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.


I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM
 
2013-02-09 11:26:32 AM

Corvus: I serious hope that libertarian island gets created (I kind of doubt it will) because I would love to watch how the fail.

Most likely it would be like that family guy episode were Peter becomes a Tea Party member gets rid of government but then sets up a group that is 100% identical to government but called something else.


Jon Stewart had an excellent takedown of Glenn Beck's hypothetical utopia. Highly recommend it:

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/31/jon_stewart_destroys_glenn_becks_utop i a/
 
2013-02-09 11:47:24 AM
Go away old man.  Go away.
 
2013-02-09 11:56:42 AM
I post this in nearly every Ron Paul thread because I feel it's prescient:


There is a special valueset that Ron Paul advocates, and this valueset always seems to attract the most fearlessly individualistic: Libertarians, militia groups, Objectivists, 4channers and teenage miscreants -- in other words, people who are total shiat-bags and want to live in a system where they are permitted to be total shiat-bags without consequence.

They call it "freedom", of course, but truth be known there are more important things in society than freedom, which to these people has been wrapped into its own religious mythology so pure and exalted that it has stunted their personal growth as normal, able-bodied, well-adjusted people ("freedom", after all, isn't a reason to do things; it is a rationalization for doing them).

They also subscribe to the Austrian School of Economics, which is an economic system that consists entirely of ideological catchphrases, talking points and flowing rhetoric deliberately left open to interpretation, has no scientific basis or any practical application, and conflicts with obvious empirical data (Austrian school is in opposition to empiricism. Their papers use no math, in a subject that is all about math). One of the most distinguishing characteristics of most followers of the Austrian school is that they often display a gross misunderstanding of modern economics.

But probably the worst thing about Ron Paul, his followers and their socio-political ideological underpinnings is their inherent belief that everyone will behave themselves if we all just leave each other alone. This ideal -- the honor system -- has never been known to work in any open system, location or culture in the history of the world.

Any philosophy (whether its political, or moral, or economic) that doesn't start with the basic premise that people are flaming assholes is fundamentally flawed.
 
2013-02-09 11:58:38 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

ahem

HAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2013-02-09 11:59:43 AM

MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM


Well that's just common sense free market gumption.

Wait... does this mean RON PAUL only likes the free market when it when it works in his favor and not against?
 
2013-02-09 12:01:21 PM
Do not say the name of our Savior, RON PAUL, in vain.
 
2013-02-09 12:04:34 PM

Ishkur: I post this in nearly every Ron Paul thread because I feel it's prescient:


There is a special valueset that Ron Paul advocates, and this valueset always seems to attract the most fearlessly individualistic: Libertarians, militia groups, Objectivists, 4channers and teenage miscreants -- in other words, people who are total shiat-bags and want to live in a system where they are permitted to be total shiat-bags without consequence.

They call it "freedom", of course, but truth be known there are more important things in society than freedom, which to these people has been wrapped into its own religious mythology so pure and exalted that it has stunted their personal growth as normal, able-bodied, well-adjusted people ("freedom", after all, isn't a reason to do things; it is a rationalization for doing them).

They also subscribe to the Austrian School of Economics, which is an economic system that consists entirely of ideological catchphrases, talking points and flowing rhetoric deliberately left open to interpretation, has no scientific basis or any practical application, and conflicts with obvious empirical data (Austrian school is in opposition to empiricism. Their papers use no math, in a subject that is all about math). One of the most distinguishing characteristics of most followers of the Austrian school is that they often display a gross misunderstanding of modern economics.

But probably the worst thing about Ron Paul, his followers and their socio-political ideological underpinnings is their inherent belief that everyone will behave themselves if we all just leave each other alone. This ideal -- the honor system -- has never been known to work in any open system, location or culture in the history of the world.

Any philosophy (whether its political, or moral, or economic) that doesn't start with the basic premise that people are flaming assholes is fundamentally flawed.


Newsletter, etc.
 
2013-02-09 12:12:56 PM

log_jammin: ItchyMcDoogle: I remember when the Libertarians had alot of liberals in the party and were kinda left leaning. That does not seem to be the case anymore. Bunch a free market nutjobs who think Ann Rand is the second coming now it looks like. Now its like the Libertarians and Republicans are fighting to see who can be the bigger a-hole while both agreeing that democrats suck.

You can count on two things from Republicans and libertarians to do without question. Side with business over workers and side with states over individuals.


I didn't leave the party it left me kinda thing.
 
2013-02-09 12:18:52 PM

MindStalker: badhatharry: It is kind of a dick move by Paul. His supporters are not exactly squatters.

I thought so until I read their "offer" letter. They offered to give him the .ORG but wanted a quarter million for the .COM


Well according to Ron Paul, fiat dollars are entirely worthless due to hyperinflation, so what exactly is the harm?

Seriously, though.  If the customer doesn't think the price is worth it, he is free not to pay for it.
 
2013-02-09 12:36:36 PM
Have fun living in a banana republic everyone. I love the above statement about economics being a science, because people can obviously be used interchangeably as inputs/outputs, all that. Whatever. Hubris is a biatch.
 
2013-02-09 12:37:11 PM
They built that.  Suck it Ron.
 
2013-02-09 12:38:53 PM
Oh the schadenfreude. I swear I've got the biggest boney going right now.
 
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