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(The Hill)   Because everyone loved it so much the last time, government set to reintroduce CISPA   (thehill.com) divider line 43
    More: Asinine, White House, CISPA, house intelligence committee, International Studies in Washington, judicial panel, pushback  
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2013-02-09 07:01:43 AM  
And they will keep re-introducing it until the netizens get bored of fighting it, then they will get it passed.

Sure there are some who will fight tooth and nail, forever.  But there are a huge swath of people who only care because they are told to, and they always want the next shiny new thing.
 
2013-02-09 08:24:24 AM  
And we'll knock them down again.

and again.

and again.
 
2013-02-09 09:44:44 AM  
They'll keep doing it 'til they get it.
 
2013-02-09 09:46:16 AM  

EvilEgg: And they will keep re-introducing it until the netizens get bored of fighting it, then they will get it passed.

Sure there are some who will fight tooth and nail, forever.  But there are a huge swath of people who only care because they are told to, and they always want the next shiny new thing.


This. We've got a system setup now where these clowns can tell us all during their campaigns how they're going to fight to make things better for us, then immediately start taking their marching orders from their real corporate masters, letting lobbyists write whatever laws they want while they spend 4 hours a day asking us for more money to get elected again. And we'll keep electing them just based on name familiarity and momentum, unless they do something astoundingly stupid.
 
2013-02-09 09:46:27 AM  
"American businesses are under siege," Rogers said.

Perhaps if he turned down the hyperbole, I'd have paid attention further.
 
2013-02-09 09:50:33 AM  
Why not? Everything else has gone to sh*t. May as well get it over with.
 
2013-02-09 09:53:37 AM  
Instead of threatening to veto it like the White House did last time around, they should publicly support it and state how excited they are about the prospect of spying on gun owners, Teabaggers, and evangelists.  That would help kill it:)
 
2013-02-09 09:53:55 AM  
government small enough to fit in your flash drive :\
 
2013-02-09 09:55:06 AM  
This push for bigger government is just another entitlement program we can't afford. These banks should pull themselves up by their bootstraps, and handle their own cybersecurity, instead of looking to the government, who as we all know can't do anything right, to do it for them.
 
2013-02-09 10:29:10 AM  
"We're talking about exchanging packets of information, zeroes and ones, if you will, one hundred millions times a second," he said. "So some notion that this is a horrible invasion of content reading is wrong. It is not even close to that."

someone shouldn't even be in the same room with folks discussing the internet, security or anything related to computers.
 
2013-02-09 10:32:01 AM  

THX 1138: "American businesses are under siege," Rogers said.

Perhaps if he turned down the hyperbole, I'd have paid attention further.


Anonymous is throwing plague-ridden cows over the battlements.
 
2013-02-09 10:40:54 AM  
I for one say it's time to reintroduce Pippa.

www.malcolmcoles.co.uk
 
2013-02-09 10:46:27 AM  

swahnhennessy: Why not? Everything else has gone to sh*t. May as well get it over with.


I admire your spirit!


not really

 
2013-02-09 10:48:26 AM  

ajgeek: And we'll knock them down again.

and again.

and again.


This. If there's anything the internet is good at, it's obsession.
 
2013-02-09 10:58:27 AM  

LordJiro: ajgeek: And we'll knock them down again.

and again.

and again.

This. If there's anything the internet is good at, it's obsession.


All you need is to somehow associate the campaign with either cats or porn.

/both would probably get supporters you don't want
 
2013-02-09 10:58:40 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: They'll keep doing it 'til they get it.


What I came to say.  The big-money media industry will keep pushing their puppets for this until they get it, and once they get it, it will never, never be taken down, because TERROR.  It's the one-size-fits-all shield for any and every kind of corporate Godzilla-trampling.
 
2013-02-09 10:59:34 AM  

wotthefark: I for one say it's time to reintroduce Pippa.

[www.malcolmcoles.co.uk image 219x216]


hello.
 
2013-02-09 11:04:06 AM  

Summoner101: LordJiro: ajgeek: And we'll knock them down again.

and again.

and again.

This. If there's anything the internet is good at, it's obsession.

All you need is to somehow associate the campaign with either cats or porn.

/both would probably get supporters you don't want


Or, if that doesn't work, get Wikipedia to shut down again.
 
2013-02-09 11:07:06 AM  
In a speech earlier this week, Rogers attempted to head off the privacy concerns raised about the bill last year.

"We're talking about exchanging packets of information, zeroes and ones, if you will, one hundred millions times a second," he said. "So some notion that this is a horrible invasion of content reading is wrong. It is not even close to that."


Oh, well, so long as it's ones and zeros, you won't mind if you just publish all of your phone calls and emails you've made over the past year right? I mean, those are digitally compressed, therefore, they are just ones and zeroes.
 
2013-02-09 11:48:16 AM  
Congress should bring back Sopapilla.

blogs.sfweekly.com

I love Sopapillas.

Not sure why the Internet was so against this sugary delight last year.
 
2013-02-09 11:59:18 AM  
*sigh*

Yet another battlefront in the increasing war on general purpose computing. Established powers fear change, so we get to deal the fallout from these futile displays desperation. Spending all your time on the beach ordering the tide to turn back isn't going to actually change anything, and just makes you look foolish.

If you're not familiar with this growing war, I strongly suggest watching the above talk - Cory Doctorow gives a good explanation in it for why this crap we're seeing *now*, that is mainly targgetd at *copyright* is merely the opening skirmish. It's when, say, Monsanto gets in on this game against whatever Cool New BioTech Toy is making them obsolete that the main battel will have to be fought.

/the panic might be coming sooner than expected, once people start noticing we can 3D-print a gun (or just a 30-round magazine), by downloading the plans over the internet.
 
2013-02-09 12:28:51 PM  
Called it last time. This will keep getting reintroduced over and over until it passes. The supporters will take advantage of "outrage fatigue" by very quietly bringing it up over and over until people are sick of hearing the opponents complain about it and it passes.

We need a new political party in congress to shake things up and make bills like this untenable.
 
2013-02-09 01:09:35 PM  
The bill was "developed in close consultation with a broad range of private sector companies, trade groups, privacy and civil liberties advocates, and the executive branch," according to the House Intelligence Committee leaders

The executive branch of what?  Because the White House sure doesn't seem to be on board.
 
2013-02-09 01:09:35 PM  

ajgeek: And we'll knock them down again.

and again.

and again.


Whiskey drink
Vodak drink
Lager drink
Cider drink
 
2013-02-09 01:13:43 PM  

EvilEgg: And they will keep re-introducing it until the netizens get bored of fighting it, then they will get it passed.


You mean the tactic that the democrats use all the time.  How many times was healthcare reform tried before it was passed, immigration, anti-gun, anti-religion.  This is basically the special interest groups SOP.
 
2013-02-09 01:52:53 PM  

pxsteel: EvilEgg: And they will keep re-introducing it until the netizens get bored of fighting it, then they will get it passed.

You mean the tactic that the democrats use all the time.  How many times was healthcare reform tried before it was passed, immigration, anti-gun, anti-religion.  This is basically the special interest groups SOP.


VS. The rubber stamp Republican approach to smaller government like the Patriot Act, TSA, and Medicare part D and the trampling of our rights by a Conservative weighted SCOTUS.
 
2013-02-09 02:14:28 PM  
Where are the blue walls of text explaining how Obama is not only expanding on Bush policies but inventing new ways to f*ck your civil liberties?
 
2013-02-09 02:23:14 PM  
Does it matter anymore really? The masses just don't care enough to protect their freedoms.
 
2013-02-09 02:30:14 PM  

nmemkha: Does it matter anymore really? The masses just don't care enough to protect their freedoms.


Which mass do you belong to?
 
2013-02-09 03:38:18 PM  

thamike: nmemkha: Does it matter anymore really? The masses just don't care enough to protect their freedoms.

Which mass do you belong to?


An interesting question. I would say the Earth primarily because I am in its gravitational pull. The sun also by extension and off up the universal scale.
 
Xai
2013-02-09 03:47:38 PM  
They will keep trying to get it passed because that is what the media industry is paying them to do.

Freedom? Only if you have cash.
 
2013-02-09 03:47:51 PM  
"We're talking about exchanging packets of information, zeroes and ones, if you will, one hundred millions times a second," he said. "So some notion that this is a horrible invasion of content reading is wrong. It is not even close to that."

I think Lewis Black summed it up best:

"If I put a prophylactic on my finger and stick it in my ear I'm not screwing myself..."
 
2013-02-09 04:12:41 PM  

Nuclear Monk: Instead of threatening to veto it like the White House did last time around, they should publicly support it and state how excited they are about the prospect of spying on gun owners, Teabaggers, and evangelists.  That would help kill it:)


Eh. I'm tired of fighting for the rights of others who fight tirelessly to repeal my rights.

Nobody needs to have an unfiltered communication link. Nobody has a right to bootleg movies.

Sorry internet nuts. You abused your anonymity for too long. If you don't want to get in on common sense internet regulation then expect to be left out of the discussion.

/"No.. No! This is totes different because it's something I value"
 
2013-02-09 04:58:38 PM  

hurdboy: ajgeek: And we'll knock them down again.

and again.

and again.

Whiskey drink
Vodak drink
Lager drink
Cider drink


LOL
 
2013-02-09 05:45:43 PM  
What part of "from my cold, dead, cheeto's-stained hands" did the muthapuppies not get the first time?

[comeatmebro]
 
2013-02-09 06:14:03 PM  
Is this the thread where people who blindly support and defend one party pretend to be outraged, then go back to supporting their team in every other thread?

Vote out both parties. They are both equally at fault on this shiat.
 
2013-02-09 06:32:10 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: They'll keep doing it 'til they get it.


Then everyone will just switch over to darknet and the government's intervention in the affairs of the internet will be over.
 
2013-02-09 10:43:02 PM  

machoprogrammer: Is this the thread where people who blindly support and defend one party pretend to be outraged, then go back to supporting their team in every other thread?

Vote out both parties. They are both equally at fault on this shiat.


I keep telling my tea party boss this. I don't care if they have a D or an R next to their names. What matters is if they are incumbents. It is the only way term limits - and by extension - campaign money reform will be enacted.

/i can dream, right?
 
2013-02-09 11:34:17 PM  

End_Of_Line: machoprogrammer: Is this the thread where people who blindly support and defend one party pretend to be outraged, then go back to supporting their team in every other thread?

Vote out both parties. They are both equally at fault on this shiat.

I keep telling my tea party boss this. I don't care if they have a D or an R next to their names. What matters is if they are incumbents. It is the only way term limits - and by extension - campaign money reform will be enacted.

/i can dream, right?


I agree. But good luck convincing a Tea Partier of anything :)
 
2013-02-10 02:29:08 AM  

EvilEgg: And they will keep re-introducing it until the netizens get bored of fighting it, then they will get it passed.

Sure there are some who will fight tooth and nail, forever.  But there are a huge swath of people who only care because they are told to, and they always want the next shiny new thing.


If we'd hang the farkers that try to pass unconstitutional laws that wouldn't be an issue.
 
2013-02-10 10:47:32 AM  

Mrbogey: Nuclear Monk: Instead of threatening to veto it like the White House did last time around, they should publicly support it and state how excited they are about the prospect of spying on gun owners, Teabaggers, and evangelists.  That would help kill it:)

Eh. I'm tired of fighting for the rights of others who fight tirelessly to repeal my rights.

Nobody needs to have an unfiltered communication link. Nobody has a right to bootleg movies.

Sorry internet nuts. You abused your anonymity for too long. If you don't want to get in on common sense internet regulation then expect to be left out of the discussion.

/"No.. No! This is totes different because it's something I value"


Because bootlegging movies is EXACTLY like murdering people en masse. Keep your gunwanking threadjacks out of unrelated threads, dipshiat.
 
2013-02-10 11:08:08 AM  

LordJiro: Because bootlegging movies is EXACTLY like murdering people en masse. Keep your gunwanking threadjacks out of unrelated threads, dipshiat.


They're not related. And murdering people en masse isn't exactly like self-defense and yet these are the arguments in favor of abrogating rights. Perhaps I should have thrown in a line about trafficking in child porn and terrorism. Are those like killing people? Because I'm sure online monitoring will cut down on those and I have it under good authority that if it saves one life then it's worth it.

You see, you don't want the parallel between the issues but the arguments given in favor of both are near identical. The specifics just get tossed around for a better fit.

That anger you feel is your inability to defend your position through logic.

Smeggy Smurf: If we'd hang the farkers that try to pass unconstitutional laws that wouldn't be an issue.


2nd Amendment solutions?
 
2013-02-11 09:55:29 AM  

hurdboy: ajgeek: And we'll knock them down again.

and again.

and again.

Whiskey drink
Vodak drink
Lager drink
Cider drink


Pissin' the Net away...
 
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