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(San Gabriel Valley Tribune)   "Black men [in LA] should avoid even the most banal confrontations with the police...make sure you cooperate with the police; now is not the right time to wear a hoodie," this is not a repeat from every other moment in the history of LA   (sgvtribune.com ) divider line
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2013-02-09 10:18:53 AM  

Bontesla: BronyMedic: Bontesla: Yeah. That's such an absurd, nonsensical theory. Really - if that were true - we'd see the LAPD lose their sh*t in an effort of trying to find and silence him before he had a chance to share his evidence. I mean - we'd see the LAPD ventilate two trucks with bullet holes - injuring innocent people.

Pictured: FARKer  Bontesla hard at work on his/her/it's next groundbreaking post.

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In the event you're not being snarky, and actually being serious, you're the same caliber of idiot who thinks James Holmes was a false flag attack, and the aspie in Newtown was planted to let Obama come get our guns. Please, please tell me you're being snarky.

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Never attempt to relate to conspiracy what can be related to incompetence combined with anger.

Stop being ridiculous.

Do you know that as of last week - there were a gang of seven (working out of the sheriff's office) that would kill "gang members" and then tattoo themselves as a victory? They literally created notches on their body to boast how many people they've killed. But have no fear - we're much safer now. They were fired.

I mean - if you killed seven or eight men - you'd face prison. But they were fired - with no announcement that there would be a continued investigation or possible criminal charges. They were merely fired. For murder. This isn't a conspiracy. This was big news. To pretend that law enforcement officers aren't capable of this is to be ignorant of history. To assume that the LAPD is guilty of a crime is to be launching insane and absurd accusations. To assume Dorner is innocent of charges is equally absurd. We have a goddamned justice system to sort this sh*t out.

I'm not saying that Dorner is innocent. I'm saying that the LAPD is trying to execute a witness and main suspect of a murder investigation. This isn't normal behavior.


By automatically jumping to insults means you have nothing meaningful to add as a d ...



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ all this and more.

By the way, in Brony's defense, he's a paramedic.
 
2013-02-09 10:19:01 AM  

BronyMedic: The question that anyone, even pro-Law Enforcement, should be asking is "Why the fark did you think it was acceptable to open up on a vehicle without even identifying a threat?" The actions of that officer involved are inexcusable, and reek of panic and anger.


The police have gotten to the point where they are above criticism.  You never see truly investigative reports on the police or their actions.  In a way, they have succeeded in their goal of making the general population fear them to the point that they no longer raise criticisms due to fear of retaliation.
 
2013-02-09 10:19:55 AM  
read his words; the man was pushed over the edge. this was a military man who became a law man and was proud of his country and his service to it. he tried to do the right thing and was kicked in the teeth for having values and morals.

in the first thread FARK had on this news there were many CA Farkers with seething hatred for LAPD due to the things they have seen, heard and read over the years. seems apparent their house is very dirty yet no one in charge higher on the food chain steps up to clean house.

i feel bad for this fellow for being pushed so far and having his head get so twisted that he lashed out at people with bullets. knowing there are web sites dedicated to reporting the massive daily fark-ups done by trained professional law enforcement experts coast to coast on a daily basis, and that these same sites are never lacking for news stories makes me sad that America has the type of law enforcement our rich wealthy assclowns in WashDC have put in place.

the bad guys are bad and it seems like most of the good guys are bad - or at the very least they are highly disturbed individuals deeply in need of counseling and they are the last people who should be given firearms, a utility belt filled with weapons & restraints and carte blanche to use them.

nothing is going to change, it's just going to get worse. our biatching and moaning or interfacing together in an intelligent and respectful manner is just chit chat. next week or next month there will be something even more horrendous. what's a mother to do.
 
2013-02-09 10:20:36 AM  

StrangeQ: The police have gotten to the point where they are above criticism.  You never see truly investigative reports on the police or their actions.  In a way, they have succeeded in their goal of making the general population fear them to the point that they no longer raise criticisms due to fear of retaliation.


All the more reason that the United States should take a page from the ACPO and the UK's book on policing and federally mandate departmentally unaffiliated  transparent public review boards for any accusation of officer misconduct or officer-involved shooting.
 
2013-02-09 10:20:54 AM  

BronyMedic: The question that anyone, even pro-Law Enforcement, should be asking is "Why the fark did you think it was acceptable to open up on a vehicle without even identifying a threat?" The actions of that officer involved are inexcusable, and reek of panic and anger.


Two months from now: A police investigatory panel have investigated and determined that there was no fault by the officer. He's been commended and received a "good for you" bonus and medal.
 
2013-02-09 10:22:25 AM  
Many years ago I was in the CA National Guard and was called up for the Rodney King roots.  We were stationed in Rampart and it was a mess- burnt buildings, crazy armed shopkeepers, tons of gangs driving around,  scared inhabitants, etc.

They were mostly scared of the reprisals from the LAPD though.  More than once I had locals come up to give us cookies or something and thank us for protecting them.  naive white guy I was at the time I thought it was a little odd, until the Rampart police scandals came to light shortly afterwards.

Dorner's a murdering scumbag, but I'm not sure his comments are wrong.
 
2013-02-09 10:22:27 AM  

TofuTheAlmighty: "Black men [in LA] should avoid even the most banal confrontations with the police...make sure you cooperate with the police; now is not the right time to wear a hoodie."

Sounds an awful lot like "She was asking for it, just look how short that skirt is."


Exactly.  I was thinking more along the lines what every psychopathic killer says to his (soon-to-be) victims...."Look at what you made me do!"
 
2013-02-09 10:22:48 AM  

BronyMedic: StrangeQ: The police have gotten to the point where they are above criticism.  You never see truly investigative reports on the police or their actions.  In a way, they have succeeded in their goal of making the general population fear them to the point that they no longer raise criticisms due to fear of retaliation.

All the more reason that the United States should take a page from the ACPO and the UK's book on policing and federally mandate departmentally unaffiliated  transparent public review boards for any accusation of officer misconduct or officer-involved shooting.


This is a very very good idea.
 
2013-02-09 10:23:30 AM  

Bontesla: iron_city_ap: neversummer: I think this dude is prepared to hide for months. There's very little benefit in continuing these attacks in the short term. He's done enough to trigger the LAPD into a tailspin. Time is his friend now.

Exactly. He'll lay low till they calm down, then he'll strike again. Followed by disappearing while they freak out. Rinse. Repeat.

I don't think so. This guy is convinced there's a conspiracy within the LAPD. He's either delusional, dishonest, or is trying to expose corruption at some fairly high levels.

My money is on either delusion or exposure. I'd speculate that he's going to try to contact the media. He's already reached out to Anderson Cooper. I would be surprised if other "news" anchors haven't received something they're trying to independently verify. He's written a really lengthy, rambling manifesto trying to communicate events that he's convinced happened. I think he wants to get the story out. That comes across as his main objective.

I think we're going to see more "evidence" surface. The evidence will either highlight psychosis or corruption.

That's how I forecast it.


He's not delusional - about the LAPD.  He's had a psychotic break, but he's not delusional about the culture within the LAPD.  He's given names, dates, details.  He's attempted to keep a paper trail.  This is exposure.

Now, he's delusional that killing anyone is going to resolve anything.  But at least he's also not naive enough to assume that completely playing by the rules is the only way to get things done.  It is not.  He gave information to the media which sat unread and untouched until somebody got killed?  Perfect example that playing by the rules completely is not the only way to get shiat done.  (Is there a Freakonomics chapter on that?)
 
2013-02-09 10:23:32 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: pyrotek85: NeoBad: Let's hope, that, rather than the wheels of justice turning, that peice of crap dies painfully, scared out of his mind and that the devil is laughing at him for a long long time....

You're advocating that he shouldn't be arrested and charged for his crimes but summarily killed when found?

/Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. He's farking bugshiat crazy, has killed innocent people, and will continue to do so unless stopped, and will probably force the police to gun him down like the rabid dog he is, which is what you do to rabid animals. You kill them, you kill them until they die from it.  I have 0 problems with this. He's not "innocent" at all, there is no doubt that he committed the crimes they said, and he said, he did.  He's crazy, and it would be better if they just invoked rule #.308 when they find his ass, which he will probably force them to do anyway, or kill himself like the coward he is.  Either way, as long as he's not sucking wind anymore, it's fine with me.


He hasn't been convicted of killing anyone. He's a suspect in the murder of three people. We haven't actually seen evidence (as this usually happens during court proceedings) to establish his guilt. We only have the accusations of a infamously, notoriously corrupt police force. The same police force he has accused of serious crimes. The police have responded by shooting at anything in the general direction that may or may not be Dorner.

There's something very serious going on. Dorner is the primary suspect in a murder investigation and the primary witness in some very serious charges. The LAPD is choosing to kill their primary suspect and primary witness.
 
2013-02-09 10:23:37 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: By the way, in Brony's defense, he's a paramedic.


To be fair, I'm not a  serialkiller, but it's nothing a few hundred thousand volts won't fix at any rate. Really, the human body is just like a potato clock.

At any rate, if things do go wrong, you can always cut up the body and dump them at strategically placed points in the city. If you look at them on a map, they should form a smiley face.

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2013-02-09 10:23:46 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: In order for society to be safe we must look within.


And that, my friend, is where you are wrong. In order for society to really be safe, we must refuse to stop trusting one another. This "blaze-of-glory exit" only became possible when we stopped trusting people to do the right thing: instead of banding together to protect one another, we cowered in a form of mutual helplessness. That has to change if we are going to be safe again: we don't need to have armed guards, we need to be armed guards.

This doesn't necessarily mean putting a gun in every hand, but it does mean more guns in more hands: enough to pin down a blaze-of-glory shooter long before the body count gets too high. You don't have to reduce the potential count to zero, which isn't possible anyway: you only have to reduce it enough that it's no longer worth trying for in the eyes of these shooters. Do that, and the shootings stop, and the body count goes to zero anyway: even the shooter gets saved, and no one's rights are violated. Everyone wins.
 
2013-02-09 10:24:23 AM  

Theory Of Null: In all seriousness, I doubt he is hiding in the mountains. He left his identification in San Diego then set his truck on fire miles away in the mountains and before that was spotted at a motel in Orange County. All of the locations are a good distance from one another. He could of had a motorcycle in the back of that truck.

Looks like he is sending them on a wild goose chase until he pops up again or to throw them off while flees the state entirely. My guess he either is hiding out near his home, left the state or long gone as in already gave up and committed suicide


My bet is on the latter.  Body within 1/4 mile radius of the truck.
 
2013-02-09 10:25:32 AM  

Theaetetus: BronyMedic: The question that anyone, even pro-Law Enforcement, should be asking is "Why the fark did you think it was acceptable to open up on a vehicle without even identifying a threat?" The actions of that officer involved are inexcusable, and reek of panic and anger.

Two months from now: A police investigatory panel have investigated and determined that there was no fault by the officer. He's been commended and received a "good for you" bonus and medal.


Guarantee it, has happened before.  If I had a restraining order against someone who had a hit list and was going around killing people and I lit up some random truck delivering papers because it LOOKED like the suspect's truck I would never be let out of prison.  These officers won't even be suspended, the city will just pay off the victims.
 
2013-02-09 10:25:35 AM  
Couple more random shootings by police of innocent citizens, couple more police apologists telling black people not to wear hoodies or do anything other than drop to the ground when they see a police officer, and Dorner is going to become a hero to the subset of the population that is normally terrorized by the LAPD. I wouldn't be surprised to see people offering to hide him, and an increase in the number of false sightings all over the county. He could probably disappear in Compton right now.
 
2013-02-09 10:28:43 AM  
Dormer has got to still be alive.

He knows how the cops are going to look for him.  His manifesto mentions he will use surprise tactics.  That likely includes "waiting things out" until his notoriety fades for the time being.   He knows that all it takes for him to get off the headlines is for Lindsay Lohan to flash her crotch again.

This guy felt he was wronged back in 2009.  That means he has had three to four years of planning this stuff out.  I doubt he woke up one morning and decided to carry this out.  He has a plan, and as someone mentioned earlier, time is his friend right now.  I'm guessing that part of his plan is to get the corruption in the LAPD to be front and center in the headlines.  And by him sitting around doing nothing, the attention goes from the murders to investigating his claims in the manifesto.

He probably know exactly what he's doing right about now.
 
2013-02-09 10:30:44 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Bontesla: iron_city_ap: neversummer: I think this dude is prepared to hide for months. There's very little benefit in continuing these attacks in the short term. He's done enough to trigger the LAPD into a tailspin. Time is his friend now.

Exactly. He'll lay low till they calm down, then he'll strike again. Followed by disappearing while they freak out. Rinse. Repeat.

I don't think so. This guy is convinced there's a conspiracy within the LAPD. He's either delusional, dishonest, or is trying to expose corruption at some fairly high levels.

My money is on either delusion or exposure. I'd speculate that he's going to try to contact the media. He's already reached out to Anderson Cooper. I would be surprised if other "news" anchors haven't received something they're trying to independently verify. He's written a really lengthy, rambling manifesto trying to communicate events that he's convinced happened. I think he wants to get the story out. That comes across as his main objective.

I think we're going to see more "evidence" surface. The evidence will either highlight psychosis or corruption.

That's how I forecast it.

He's not delusional - about the LAPD.  He's had a psychotic break, but he's not delusional about the culture within the LAPD.  He's given names, dates, details.  He's attempted to keep a paper trail.  This is exposure.

Now, he's delusional that killing anyone is going to resolve anything.  But at least he's also not naive enough to assume that completely playing by the rules is the only way to get things done.  It is not.  He gave information to the media which sat unread and untouched until somebody got killed?  Perfect example that playing by the rules completely is not the only way to get shiat done.  (Is there a Freakonomics chapter on that?)


I don't know if he's killed the fiance/daughter or the police officer. That's what the court system is for. They're the fact finders. We hire them to establish the facts. I have yet to see any facts about this case (and that makes sense - why tip your hand before court?). But right now - he's only a suspect in the killing of three people.
 
2013-02-09 10:30:44 AM  

LessO2: Dormer has got to still be alive.

He knows how the cops are going to look for him.  His manifesto mentions he will use surprise tactics.  That likely includes "waiting things out" until his notoriety fades for the time being.   He knows that all it takes for him to get off the headlines is for Lindsay Lohan to flash her crotch again.


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2013-02-09 10:32:40 AM  

BronyMedic: In reality, the LAPD is vile and corrupt. They need to clean house, and I hope the feds do just that.


That just might happen now, thanks to what Dorner did.

That doesn't excuse nor justify gunning down innocent people.

What are your thoughts on the trolly problem? Most people find it acceptable to kill the saboteur (LAPD) in order to save the innocent victims (victims of LAPD violence).
 
2013-02-09 10:32:53 AM  

Another Government Employee: Theory Of Null: In all seriousness, I doubt he is hiding in the mountains. He left his identification in San Diego then set his truck on fire miles away in the mountains and before that was spotted at a motel in Orange County. All of the locations are a good distance from one another. He could of had a motorcycle in the back of that truck.

Looks like he is sending them on a wild goose chase until he pops up again or to throw them off while flees the state entirely. My guess he either is hiding out near his home, left the state or long gone as in already gave up and committed suicide

My bet is on the latter.  Body within 1/4 mile radius of the truck.


Self-inflicted wound or murder?
 
2013-02-09 10:34:23 AM  

Fail in Human Form: To be safe you might want to work on your concealment. I suggest purchasing a pair of ACUs


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ACU pattern cammo sucks.

Glad the Army finaly figured out we're not the Marines, and are switching from a 'cool' pixel cammo to multi-cam
 
2013-02-09 10:35:32 AM  

fredklein: What are your thoughts on the trolly problem? Most people find it acceptable to kill the saboteur (LAPD) in order to save the innocent victims (victims of LAPD violence).


Actually, reading your link there, only about 10% would. And those who did tended to have Sociopath or Machiavellian leanings.
 
2013-02-09 10:36:16 AM  

MythDragon: ACU pattern cammo sucks.

Glad the Army finaly figured out we're not the Marines, and are switching from a 'cool' pixel cammo to multi-cam


Well said.
 
2013-02-09 10:37:16 AM  

BronyMedic: If she was shot in the hand, because of her age alone they'd put her in the intensive care unit because of the staffing ratios. People like that get lost on a floor where one nurse has to care for ten or so different patients at the same time. It's not necessarily because she's knocking on the death's door.


"Carranza suffered minor injuries to her hand from shattering glass.

Hernandez, who was shot in the back, is in ICU at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center."

Shot in the BACK, and in ICU.

I mean, if you aren't even familiar with the basic facts of the case, why are you arguing at all?
 
2013-02-09 10:39:15 AM  

fredklein: I mean, if you aren't even familiar with the basic facts of the case, why are you arguing at all?


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2013-02-09 10:40:07 AM  

MNguy: I'm sure you have sources for your conjecture about this woman. She probably was just scared by all the noise.


There's a link furthe rup the thread:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57568368/christopher-dorner-manhu n t-two-innocent-women-shot-by-lapd-officers-had-no-warning/
"Carranza suffered minor injuries to her hand from shattering glass.

Hernandez, who was shot in the back, is in ICU at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center."
 
2013-02-09 10:41:00 AM  
While I do not in any way condone violence of this calibre against people who have wronged you and especially not against their innocent family members, I don't believe that all of Dorner's credibility dissolves because he chose to resort to such extreme methods in order to have his (seemingly serious and legitimate) claims against the LAPD heard.

Regardless of the crimes Dorner is committing now (which are serious and he needs to be stopped - again, not condoning the killing of anyone or calling him a hero), the allegations he raised against the LAPD need to be investigated. It's rather telling that the cops appear to be shooting at anything everything even tangentially resembling Dorner or his truck. If they truly had nothing to hide, they would be trying to bring him in to be charged for his crimes in court, not clearly wanting him executed immediately so he cannot speak for himself.

Clearly something happened to this previously sane individual to drive him to what he is currently doing, and to dismiss these reasons as nonsense is asinine.

I hope they find him and bring him in alive, but we all know that's not likely to happen.

This is just a farked up situation all around.
 
2013-02-09 10:44:50 AM  

fredklein: BronyMedic: If she was shot in the hand, because of her age alone they'd put her in the intensive care unit because of the staffing ratios. People like that get lost on a floor where one nurse has to care for ten or so different patients at the same time. It's not necessarily because she's knocking on the death's door.

"Carranza suffered minor injuries to her hand from shattering glass.

Hernandez, who was shot in the back, is in ICU at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center."

Shot in the BACK, and in ICU.



It was probably just the back of her hand, and they're being extra careful because she's old and fragile. amiright Brony?
 
2013-02-09 10:45:29 AM  

Brittabot: While I do not in any way condone violence of this calibre against people who have wronged you and especially not against their innocent family members, I don't believe that all of Dorner's credibility dissolves because he chose to resort to such extreme methods in order to have his (seemingly serious and legitimate) claims against the LAPD heard.

Regardless of the crimes Dorner is committing now (which are serious and he needs to be stopped - again, not condoning the killing of anyone or calling him a hero), the allegations he raised against the LAPD need to be investigated. It's rather telling that the cops appear to be shooting at anything everything even tangentially resembling Dorner or his truck. If they truly had nothing to hide, they would be trying to bring him in to be charged for his crimes in court, not clearly wanting him executed immediately so he cannot speak for himself.

Clearly something happened to this previously sane individual to drive him to what he is currently doing, and to dismiss these reasons as nonsense is asinine.

I hope they find him and bring him in alive, but we all know that's not likely to happen.

This is just a farked up situation all around.


this.
 
2013-02-09 10:51:00 AM  

Bontesla: It's incredibly disturbing. But it's more than a lack of outrage. People are actually siding with the cops - defending the shooting of unarmed, innocent people.


I haven't heard anyone do that yet, but if anyone dares to within earshot, they are going to hear all about what kind of morons they are.
 
2013-02-09 10:52:19 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: /Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. He's farking bugshiat crazy, has killed innocent people, and will continue to do so unless stopped,


Unlike the cops themselves, who have a Loooooong history of abusing people, and have shot up at least two trucks full of innocent people.
 
2013-02-09 10:54:54 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: pyrotek85: Coming on a Bicycle: colonel0sanders: generallyso: Is the LAPD still shooting random civilians or has their PR department put a stop to that for a few days?

FTA:  Two Latina women in Torrance were shot by officers who thought their car looked like the one driven by Dorner. The car did not match the description.

So, what happened to those two women? Every article I read about it, says that they were shot, but no word on whether they survived.

Looks like they survived fortunately

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57568368/christopher-dorner-manh un t-two-innocent-women-shot-by-lapd-officers-had-no-warning/

Yeah, that 70 year old lady is so alright, she's in the Intensive Care Unit.  It's just me, but there's a subtle difference between things being alright because you're in intensive care, and things being all fked to hell in back because you're in intensive care.
One subtlety says 'hey, it's no big deal after all that the cops shot at her because she'll live'; the other is 'why in god's name did they put that lady in the intensive care unit in the first place'?

Right now, the subtlety is the first one, so that being in the intensive care unit is placed on the same level as same-day care walking out no big deal.  You know what I mean?


Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say she's alright or its no big deal, I just said she's not dead, which I think is usually better than the alternative but its still bad. The cops screwed up big time.
 
2013-02-09 11:02:16 AM  
A co-worker of mine was checked out by the police on Thursday evening while waiting at a bus stop because someone called in that he looked like the guy who had killed the cops. Yes, he was black and he is heavy guy like the shooter, besides that he looks nothing like the shooter. Here comes the Fark worthy part; this was in O'Fallon, IL.
 
2013-02-09 11:02:27 AM  

BronyMedic: fredklein: What are your thoughts on the trolly problem? Most people find it acceptable to kill the saboteur (LAPD) in order to save the innocent victims (victims of LAPD violence).

Actually, reading your link there, only about 10% would. And those who did tended to have Sociopath or Machiavellian leanings.


Wrong.

http://www.philosophyexperiments.com/fatman/Default4.aspx


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2013-02-09 11:02:36 AM  

BronyMedic: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Yeah, that 70 year old lady is so alright, she's in the Intensive Care Unit.  It's just me, but there's a subtle difference between things being alright because you're in intensive care, and things being all fked to hell in back because you're in intensive care.

If she was shot in the hand, because of her age alone they'd put her in the intensive care unit because of the staffing ratios. People like that get lost on a floor where one nurse has to care for ten or so different patients at the same time. It's not necessarily because she's knocking on the death's door.

ExperianScaresCthulhu: One subtlety says 'hey, it's no big deal after all that the cops shot at her because she'll live'; the other is 'why in god's name did they put that lady in the intensive care unit in the first place'?

The question that anyone, even pro-Law Enforcement, should be asking is "Why the fark did you think it was acceptable to open up on a vehicle without even identifying a threat?" The actions of that officer involved are inexcusable, and reek of panic and anger.

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Right now, the subtlety is the first one, so that being in the intensive care unit is placed on the same level as same-day care walking out no big deal.  You know what I mean?

Not necessarily. The cops usually don't have medical training. They'll tell the media someone's in "critical but stable condition". WTF?


The older woman was shot twice in the back. The younger woman's hand was injured by the shattered glass from the bullets going through the window, per the LA Times reports.

The people interviewed about the shooting from the neighborhood were describing the fact that their houses and cars were all shot to hell. The cops uncorked and shot up the whole neighborhood and they should be put in front of a Grand Jury. Reckless shootings by cops should be treated the same as reckless shootings by civilians.

The LAPD is an awful organization that has been rotting from within for decades. There's no doubt about that. Whomever the officers were that shot up the other vehicle should get the same GJ treatment as the ones shooting up that neighborhood. The whole organization needs an enema of epic proportions all the way to the top. That doesn't justify assassinating people in uniform, though. I don't think the LAPD is above murdering this guy if he's found alive and unresisting at some point which doesn't make them any better if that's how it goes.

As to this crazy dude, and make no mistake: he's crazy even if he's right about the abuses he wrote about, he's an asshole if he shot the woman and her dude just for being related to someone involved in his case. That's not in question. He did write that their families were fair game and most decidedly on his list, so it isn't unlikely he is the person that shot them. It isn't proven in evidence I'm aware of either, so there's that.

I find this whole thing ghoulishly interesting for some reason. I can't seem to ignore it, so bleh to me.

I expect that we won't hear from this guy for a long time, if ever. Whether that's because he has died in the mountains or otherwise DB Coopered himself remains to be seen.
 
2013-02-09 11:03:37 AM  

Theaetetus: fredklein: I mean, if you aren't even familiar with the basic facts of the case, why are you arguing at all?

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Let me rephrase that- "if he isn't even familiar with the basic facts of the case, why are arguing with him?" :-)
 
2013-02-09 11:07:10 AM  
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2013-02-09 11:09:22 AM  

dr_blasto: The LAPD is an awful organization that has been rotting from within for decades. There's no doubt about that. Whomever the officers were that shot up the other vehicle should get the same GJ treatment as the ones shooting up that neighborhood. The whole organization needs an enema of epic proportions all the way to the top. That doesn't justify assassinating people in uniform, though. I don't think the LAPD is above murdering this guy if he's found alive and unresisting at some point which doesn't make them any better if that's how it goes.


This. Fire everyone from the top down. Get the FBI or state troopers to pick up the slack in the meantime. The officers can have the option of being rehired, but they go under the farking microscope.
 
2013-02-09 11:11:40 AM  
"...banal confrontations"? While this man clearly does not know his audience, my hipster dating site now has a name!
 
2013-02-09 11:12:41 AM  
 
2013-02-09 11:12:51 AM  

pyrotek85: NeoBad: Let's hope, that, rather than the wheels of justice turning, that peice of crap dies painfully, scared out of his mind and that the devil is laughing at him for a long long time....

You're advocating that he shouldn't be arrested and charged for his crimes but summarily killed when found?


There's always some coontbag who makes this conclusion when someone says "I hope that bastard gets his."

No, you retard, he's not advocating for such a cutthroat system of instant death. He's hoping the guy in question attacks the authorities and gets his comeuppance at the end of a bullet's flight path.
 
2013-02-09 11:13:35 AM  

BronyMedic: To be fair, I'm not a  serialkiller, but it's nothing a few hundred thousand volts won't fix at any rate. Really, the human body is just like a potato clock.


You mean like every morning the cops find a body, and every morning I get a potato clock?
 
2013-02-09 11:19:35 AM  

dr_blasto: The cops uncorked and shot up the whole neighborhood and they should be put in front of a Grand Jury.


And therein lies the problem, because that rarely, if ever, happens.  The cops literally get away with murder in this country, and yet the majority of the population doesn't seem to mind.
 
2013-02-09 11:19:44 AM  

LessO2: Dormer has got to still be alive.

He knows how the cops are going to look for him.  His manifesto mentions he will use surprise tactics.  That likely includes "waiting things out" until his notoriety fades for the time being.   He knows that all it takes for him to get off the headlines is for Lindsay Lohan to flash her crotch again.

This guy felt he was wronged back in 2009.  That means he has had three to four years of planning this stuff out.  I doubt he woke up one morning and decided to carry this out.  He has a plan, and as someone mentioned earlier, time is his friend right now.  I'm guessing that part of his plan is to get the corruption in the LAPD to be front and center in the headlines.  And by him sitting around doing nothing, the attention goes from the murders to investigating his claims in the manifesto.

He probably know exactly what he's doing right about now.


My guess is he figured on LAPD overreaction (which happens to *everything* that LAPD is involved in) and thought they'd tie their own noose, put their own head in, and jump off the gallows themselves.

LAPD appears to be obliging him, given that they put an elderly female lawyer in the hospital with a gunshot wound to the back.
 
2013-02-09 11:22:12 AM  
This just in, exclusive footage from the manhunt
http://youtu.be/a8jphxpi1ro
 
2013-02-09 11:22:39 AM  

Bontesla: I sincerely hope that Dorner is out of California by now. They're trying to execute him.


...because they have to.
 
2013-02-09 11:24:15 AM  

BronyMedic: Madbassist1: Shut up, bootlicker.

Awww. Someone's still mad.

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Nice to see in addition to being a lulzcow who has cried for weeks because he got a two day time out, you're also one of the Dorner hero worshippers who think that it's perfectly okay to murder innocent people who had nothing to do with what happened to him.

That makes me an authoritarian, apparantly, because I don't think it's okay to target innocent family members and people who had nothing to do with it. It would have even been UNDERSTANDABLE had he targeted someone who was directly involved. Not excusable, but understandable.

biatch, please.

RDixon: Why do you think he is a hero?

Oh, please don't be such a fail troll. You've been here since 2003. You've cheered him on in this thread. At least have the integrity to stand by your comments. Own it, brother!


Where's the thread for farkers who think both parties are scum?

Easily half of LAPD deserves a bullet, it's just not mine or his place to hand them out.

And surely that includes Dorner, supposing he did indeed kill innocent civilians for being tangentially related to his case. Because, what the fark, dude.
 
2013-02-09 11:26:09 AM  

LavenderWolf: pyrotek85: NeoBad: Let's hope, that, rather than the wheels of justice turning, that peice of crap dies painfully, scared out of his mind and that the devil is laughing at him for a long long time....

You're advocating that he shouldn't be arrested and charged for his crimes but summarily killed when found?

There's always some coontbag who makes this conclusion when someone says "I hope that bastard gets his."

No, you retard, he's not advocating for such a cutthroat system of instant death. He's hoping the guy in question attacks the authorities and gets his comeuppance at the end of a bullet's flight path.


Well it certainly sounds like it, I hope he gets caught not killed outright. Regardless of what he did they should be trying to apprehend him so he can face justice, not kill him on sight. But he might just get his wish with the way they were all too eager to open up on those civilians yesterday.
 
2013-02-09 11:27:43 AM  

BronyMedic: Bontesla: Yeah. That's such an absurd, nonsensical theory. Really - if that were true - we'd see the LAPD lose their sh*t in an effort of trying to find and silence him before he had a chance to share his evidence. I mean - we'd see the LAPD ventilate two trucks with bullet holes - injuring innocent people.

Pictured: FARKer  Bontesla hard at work on his/her/it's next groundbreaking post.

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In the event you're not being snarky, and actually being serious, you're the same caliber of idiot who thinks James Holmes was a false flag attack, and the aspie in Newtown was planted to let Obama come get our guns. Please, please tell me you're being snarky.

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Never attempt to relate to conspiracy what can be related to incompetence combined with anger.


Come on, Brony, you're better than this. Refute others on what they say, not the things you can connect tangentially with what they say.
 
2013-02-09 11:28:34 AM  
www.soundstagedirect.com
Apply the soundtrack, and get ready for the climax.
 
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