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2013-02-09 08:37:22 AM  
Liquor prices went up?  The winds of shiat, Randy.
 
2013-02-09 09:02:10 AM  
Better: Canadians smoking more hemp.
 
2013-02-09 09:04:01 AM  
It's funny when Canadian people think Americans are interested in anything that happens up there.
 
2013-02-09 09:06:20 AM  

SpdrJay: It's funny when Canadian people think Americans are interested in anything that happens up there.


Sorry, I was laughing at your economy - Did you say something?
 
2013-02-09 09:06:30 AM  
did Subby really have to make up something to fill out the Bad/Good/Fark template? The "Fark:" is what makes it interesting enough to be noteworthy, by making up something (TFA said nothing about "not being as friendly") all you do is make us read a boring "Ric Romero style" medical article... shame on you Subby, shame on you...

/grouchy canadian
//it's the snow, not the liquor prices
 
2013-02-09 09:06:45 AM  

SpdrJay: It's funny when Canadian people think Americans are interested in anything that happens up there.


And yet instead of just carrying on to the next link, here you are commenting. So you've got that going for you.
 
2013-02-09 09:09:42 AM  
blstb.msn.com
 
2013-02-09 09:23:59 AM  
Nahhh we're the same, we're just a little tired of your partisan bull-shiat rubbing off on our politicians.  But we still love you.
 
2013-02-09 09:31:34 AM  
But raise the prices too much, and you wind up with a black market, creating way more problems.

But those pampered individuals sitting in their comfortable offices and legislations seem to have a problem understanding this - all they think is of that lovely money coming in.
 
2013-02-09 09:38:53 AM  

SpdrJay: It's funny when Canadian people think Americans are interested in anything that happens up there.


Some do. Unfortunately the outspokenness to ignorance ratio is directly proportional.

 
2013-02-09 09:51:11 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: But raise the prices too much, and you wind up with a black market, creating way more problems.

But those pampered individuals sitting in their comfortable offices and legislations seem to have a problem understanding this - all they think is of that lovely money coming in.


This, I live in Nova Scotia and while I don't smoke it's absolutely disgraceful what they are pulling on cigarettes here. We have a huge sin tax imposed to the point where 'premium brand' smokes cost $15 a pack, and stores are now required to hide them behind the counter. This has caused an overnight black market for duty free smokes. These are more profitable than some drugs. It's a big welcome mat for organized crime.

If you don't like the damn things ban them. Don't pretend you give a shiat about your citizens by claiming that the tax is for their benefit. The tax is a cash grab aimed at an unpopular segment of society and you get away with it because they are unpopular.
 
2013-02-09 09:55:49 AM  
Last time I was in Canada, I was with a group of Mormons, so I got to sample their wonder water. Canadians make a mean Kool-Aid.

:(
 
2013-02-09 10:20:53 AM  
Oh good, something else that can be taxed because government knows better than we do.
 
2013-02-09 10:28:15 AM  
some 25-30 yrs ago Mrs.Kritter and I met a Canadian couple while we were at a couples only sexy resort for newlyweds & what-not. We learned of 'sin tax' and how ridiculous the price of a bottle of booze was way back then. simply ridiculous. life is rough and adults need a little social lubricant to relax with at the end of the day. farking people up the a for the simple pleasures in life is a real rat bastard thing to do.
 
2013-02-09 10:47:49 AM  

saffronrobe: Liquor prices went up?  The winds of shiat, Randy.


Shut up, Lahey!

/I'm doing my part to turn this awful trend around
//everyone needs to pitch in here
 
2013-02-09 11:18:20 AM  

saffronrobe: Liquor prices went up?  The winds of shiat, Randy.


At least Ricky has dope.
 
2013-02-09 11:31:18 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: But raise the prices too much, and you wind up with a black market, creating way more problems.

But those pampered individuals sitting in their comfortable offices and legislations seem to have a problem understanding this - all they think is of that lovely money coming in.


We are no-where near the point where moonshining becomes a reasonable alternative to legal alcohol. Derp.
 
2013-02-09 11:31:53 AM  

eyeq360:


Wtf? This looks like someone I know.

/both of us canadian
//just realized it's John Candy
/// I never noticed before just how much my friend looks like John Candy
 
2013-02-09 11:37:16 AM  
I bought a bottle of Aberlour A'bunadh before they went up here in Quebec.
 
2013-02-09 11:50:03 AM  

SpdrJay: It's funny when Canadian people think Americans are interested in anything that happens up there.


Canadians understand pretty well that most Americans are pretty good at ignoring anything about what happens beyond the borders of the US.  We don't take it personally, we know that your ignorance knows no bounds.
 
2013-02-09 01:35:32 PM  
Fun, semi-on-topic fact: In the last week or so, our government finally admitted that our higher prices for everything vs. the U.S. aren't necessary. Manufacturers *claim* that because we're a smaller market, or there's more transportation involved, a 30%+ hike is therefore reasonable, and retailers have to suck it up or they don't get the good brands. The government is now, apparently, discussing a reduction on tariff rates and increasing duty-free allowances.

Doesn't help our liquor prices, sadly, since booze is the devil and you should have to pay more for it.

Bonus fun fact: Last time I was in California, every bottle of Canadian wine on the shelf was cheaper than what the store I managed at the time could buy it for.
 
2013-02-09 03:32:21 PM  
Canada compared to USA

-Stronger, MUCH more recession-resistant economy.  Not one bank collapsed during economic crisis
-Unemployment isn't much of an issue, and if it is in their region, just move to Alberta, tons of jobs here
-Diverse, more accepting culture than most nations
-Not nearly as politically fueled or hateful of others that follow another political party.   Everything here isn't always black and white (red and blue?)
-Its colder here, but in most cities in Canada we still get a comfortable 67-85F during the spring and summer, sometimes much higher.  Not all of us live in igloos and ride sled dogs to our seal-clubbing jobs
-We love our guns too, but we use them a hell of a lot less on each other and tend to buy them more for hunting
-If a federal political party gets voted into office, our provincial leaders don't publicly call those who didn't vote for their prime minister of choice "maggots"
-We're socialist, that is why we pay a hell of a lot more money in taxes than you do.  Oh wait, did I say more, I meant LESS http://slumbuddy.wordpress.com/2012/03/01/comparison-of-canadian-and- u s-federal-tax-rates-for-2011/
 
2013-02-09 04:03:33 PM  

robogem: Canada compared to USA

-Stronger, MUCH more recession-resistant economy.  Not one bank collapsed during economic crisis
-Unemployment isn't much of an issue, and if it is in their region, just move to Alberta, tons of jobs here
-Diverse, more accepting culture than most nations
-Not nearly as politically fueled or hateful of others that follow another political party.   Everything here isn't always black and white (red and blue?)
-Its colder here, but in most cities in Canada we still get a comfortable 67-85F during the spring and summer, sometimes much higher.  Not all of us live in igloos and ride sled dogs to our seal-clubbing jobs
-We love our guns too, but we use them a hell of a lot less on each other and tend to buy them more for hunting
-If a federal political party gets voted into office, our provincial leaders don't publicly call those who didn't vote for their prime minister of choice "maggots"
-We're socialist, that is why we pay a hell of a lot more money in taxes than you do.  Oh wait, did I say more, I meant LESS http://slumbuddy.wordpress.com/2012/03/01/comparison-of-canadian-and- u s-federal-tax-rates-for-2011/


That's a pretty rosy picture of our relationship with the yanks buddy, you do realize all of those features are only possible because we live next door to the largest asshole on the planet and happened to be a convenient buffer between them and what used to be the second largest asshole on the planet.
 
2013-02-09 04:20:46 PM  
It's a pity the study didn't record what types of people were dying less because of 10% higher minimum prices but judging from the concentration on alcohol poisoning and alcohol-related heart muscle problems, I would say BC first nation people, homeless rummies, and foolish binge-drinking teenagers.

We're talking deaths by hard-core drinkers and those who specifically drink the cheapest booze. Very few people die of alcohol-poisoning. You have to drink about 23 ounces of alcohol if you are an average male, and in a short perod of time, to die of drinking booze. Any person who drinks a 2-4 (case of 24 beer) in a couple of hours is not your casual social drinker.

Why do you drink a case of beer? Because it's there.

I knew one guy who drank a case of beer (and a pint of spirits of some sort as a chaser) but he was a pretty big Lebanese guy who spread it over a day. That's only one beer an hour or so. Not an unusual pace of drinking, only unusual duration.

The Ric Romero conclusion:  if you raise the price of the cheapest booze, alcoholics are forced to drink less of it.
 
2013-02-09 04:54:31 PM  
  

BumpInTheNight: saffronrobe: Liquor prices went up?  The winds of shiat, Randy.

Shut up, Lahey!

/I'm doing my part to turn this awful trend around
//everyone needs to pitch in here


Ricky, if I wanted to hear from you I'd blow my shiat whistle that only people with shiat between their ears can hear.
 
2013-02-09 05:14:40 PM  
On the other hand, they just relaxed liquor laws here in B.C. Craft brewers can now having tasting rooms and on site lounges.
 
2013-02-09 05:17:02 PM  

Ohlookabutterfly: BumpInTheNight: saffronrobe: Liquor prices went up?  The winds of shiat, Randy.

Shut up, Lahey!

/I'm doing my part to turn this awful trend around
//everyone needs to pitch in here

Ricky, if I wanted to hear from you I'd blow my shiat whistle that only people with shiat between their ears can hear.


I sometimes really miss that show.
 
2013-02-09 06:43:12 PM  
I visited Thunder Bay one weekend.  I experienced one of those long drunken calamitous strings of disasters worthy of a "Hangover" movie eh.  T.B. is a Pittsburgh type of shiat hole surrounded by God's country, but I liked the townies and managed not to injure anyone.

/Cool Story Bro-Self
 
2013-02-09 08:09:02 PM  
Was the study done the same time that the state stores (with high margins) started to compete with other retailers with lower overheads?  If so, did the price go up for the consumer or did it go down or both depending on the area and beverage?
 
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