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2013-02-08 07:22:01 PM  
Ha!
 
2013-02-08 07:23:48 PM  
That is either one hot dude as the bride or one ugly chick as the groom.  I can't tell...
 
2013-02-08 07:24:57 PM  
Nice.
 
2013-02-08 07:27:14 PM  
Some intern at Fox News is so fired.
 
2013-02-08 07:41:46 PM  
I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.
 
2013-02-08 08:04:37 PM  
i105.photobucket.com

/meta-meme
 
2013-02-10 03:04:00 PM  
How can you even do that on accident? I could Google "wedding kiss" and find you hundreds of thousands of stock photos of heterosexual couples kissing in like thirty seconds.
 
2013-02-10 03:06:28 PM  
"She" has a pronounced Adam's apple.
 
2013-02-10 03:12:27 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: That is either one hot dude as the bride or one ugly chick as the groom.  I can't tell...


not sure if want
 
2013-02-10 03:40:49 PM  

Chinchillazilla: How can you even do that on accident? I could Google "wedding kiss" and find you hundreds of thousands of stock photos of heterosexual couples kissing in like thirty seconds.


I hope the staffer who popped that up got a good chortle before being escorted to the door.
 
2013-02-10 04:02:55 PM  
nelsonhaha.jpg
 
2013-02-10 04:06:39 PM  

hubiestubert: Chinchillazilla: How can you even do that on accident? I could Google "wedding kiss" and find you hundreds of thousands of stock photos of heterosexual couples kissing in like thirty seconds.

I hope the staffer who popped that up got a good chortle before being escorted to the door.


It's the only possible explanation.
 
2013-02-10 04:36:08 PM  
They should have been able to figure that out based on the amount of sunshine and the way the tide moves.
 
2013-02-10 04:56:38 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.


Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS
 
2013-02-10 05:23:41 PM  

sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS


Well, both wearing a dress just because they're women is what's actually conforming ro gender roles. I'm guessing the woman in the suit is not the type of woman who's ever been comfortable in a dress. Some of us aren't. I'm not a lesbian, but I'd get married in jeans and a t-shirt if my family would let me get away with it.
 
2013-02-10 05:27:33 PM  

Chinchillazilla: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

Well, both wearing a dress just because they're women is what's actually conforming ro gender roles. I'm guessing the woman in the suit is not the type of woman who's ever been comfortable in a dress. Some of us aren't. I'm not a lesbian, but I'd get married in jeans and a t-shirt if my family would let me get away with it.


Okay. I get that too, I suppose I'm looking at it more from the traditional marriage roles more spicifically.
 
2013-02-10 06:32:25 PM  
I was wondering when this story was going to hit Fark.

Here's the screen grab since Fox has since taken it down:

img.gawkerassets.com

Fox News Accidentally Uses Photo of Same-Sex Couple to Illustrate Article About the Importance of Heterosexual Marriage

And derp as hard as you like, NOTHING will top the comments on that Gawker link.
 
2013-02-10 06:34:08 PM  
AHAHHAAHAAAAAAA!!!!!! [gaaaasp]  HHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!
 
2013-02-10 06:36:46 PM  
Alaska: Where men are men. And so are the women.
 
2013-02-10 06:38:13 PM  

Lord Jubjub: "She" has a pronounced Adam's apple.


They're both women, Dumbass.
 
2013-02-10 06:41:12 PM  

hubiestubert: Chinchillazilla: How can you even do that on accident? I could Google "wedding kiss" and find you hundreds of thousands of stock photos of heterosexual couples kissing in like thirty seconds.

I hope the staffer who popped that up got a good chortle before being escorted to the door.


You know it doesn't even really matter which side of the issue one is on.  It would seem that this would be universally funny.  What are the odds they get a laugh out of it themselves and all is well.
 
2013-02-10 06:43:14 PM  
Further proof that Fox News is really a performance art troupe masquerading as a news organization.
 
2013-02-10 06:49:32 PM  

Lord Jubjub: "She" has a pronounced Adam's apple.


Ann Coulter got married?
 
2013-02-10 06:56:15 PM  
Underpaid and disgusted non-wingnut Fox intern who managed to embarrass the company #312.
 
2013-02-10 07:06:32 PM  
oh this is good
 
2013-02-10 07:08:50 PM  

Chinchillazilla: I'm not a lesbian, but I'd get married in jeans and a t-shirt if my family would let me get away with it.


Finally, someone who isn't a redneck said it. If I'm ever dumb enough to follow through on my threats of marriage, I'm showing up in flip-flops, my favorite worn-out jeans, and probably a Saints hat.

I ask of the world - who doesn't like wearing flops and an NFL hat? Am I really an asshole for it being my go-to outfit?
 
2013-02-10 07:09:26 PM  
Come on, they have to be doing this on purpose by now.
 
2013-02-10 07:13:46 PM  
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they just have this exact same article (by the same author even) like two months ago?

The picture they used last time was more amusing too:

img.gawkerassets.com
 
2013-02-10 07:14:39 PM  
 
2013-02-10 07:15:20 PM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they just have this exact same article (by the same author even) like two months ago?

The picture they used last time was more amusing too:

[img.gawkerassets.com image 640x360]


Ya, I don't think most of us are surprised that Fox News runs a "women should know their place" article every month or so.
 
2013-02-10 07:20:03 PM  
Copyright infringement?
 
2013-02-10 07:20:30 PM  

dickfreckle: Am I really an asshole for it being my go-to outfit?


I should note that I regularly wear nice clothes. I just hate doing it. Also hate the dry-cleaning or ironing. Why can't I just wear my hat and flops? Assholes. LET ME LOOK LIKE A SLOB.
 
2013-02-10 07:20:36 PM  
To be happy we must admit women and men aren't equal.

Do they mean

To be happy, knuckledraggers must admit women and men aren't equal.

Or

To be happy, we must admit women and men aren't the same thing.
 
2013-02-10 07:27:08 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: That is either one hot dude as the bride or one ugly chick as the groom.  I can't tell...


The latter, click through for their names.
 
2013-02-10 07:29:19 PM  

DemonEater: ClavellBCMI: Jeff_Reisberg: This unfortunate choice doesn't detract form the overall message. Traditional gender roles exist because that's the optimal allocation of resources in society -plus women aren't capable of making the complicated, continuous decisions necessary to be successful in the modern world.

Also, the link is wrong. this is not a picture from a homosexual "wedding".
1) homosexual cannot be married, as marriage is between a man and a woman.

2) Entering into a marriage agreement requires both entrants to be of sound mind. Those afflicted with the homosexual disorder are not of sound mind, and therefore are not able to enter into ANY legal arrangement.

Time to *plonk* a bigoted fundie troll.

I dunno, looks more like bad satire to me


Either way, not worth reading.
 
2013-02-10 07:30:48 PM  

dickfreckle: dickfreckle: Am I really an asshole for it being my go-to outfit?

I should note that I regularly wear nice clothes. I just hate doing it. Also hate the dry-cleaning or ironing. Why can't I just wear my hat and flops? Assholes. LET ME LOOK LIKE A SLOB.


...that's not what you look like if you're *just* wearing your hat and flops.
 
2013-02-10 07:33:11 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: AHAHHAAHAAAAAAA!!!!!! [gaaaasp]  HHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!


This.
 
2013-02-10 07:34:09 PM  

mrlewish: Copyright infringement?


Maybe. And I wonder if Alaska (the couple's home state) or New York (scene of the photograph) recognizes the tort of false light or permits non-celebrities to assert the right of publicity.

By the way, I submitted this with a funnier different headline. I'm just glad it was finally greened, because it's a truly wonderful story.
 
2013-02-10 07:34:56 PM  

DemonEater: ClavellBCMI: Jeff_Reisberg: This unfortunate choice doesn't detract form the overall message. Traditional gender roles exist because that's the optimal allocation of resources in society -plus women aren't capable of making the complicated, continuous decisions necessary to be successful in the modern world.

Also, the link is wrong. this is not a picture from a homosexual "wedding".
1) homosexual cannot be married, as marriage is between a man and a woman.

2) Entering into a marriage agreement requires both entrants to be of sound mind. Those afflicted with the homosexual disorder are not of sound mind, and therefore are not able to enter into ANY legal arrangement.

Time to *plonk* a bigoted fundie troll.

I dunno, looks more like bad satire to me


Glanced at his profile. Seems like he has some sort of mental disorder. He's got world salad and some sort of theory as his profile bio.
 
2013-02-10 07:40:25 PM  
thatboyoverthere:
Glanced at his profile. Seems like he has some sort of mental disorder. He's got word salad and some sort of theory as his profile bio.

Wow, his bio is like a baby TimeCube.
 
2013-02-10 07:43:43 PM  
img.gawkerassets.com

Ceiling Bret Baier is watching you lesbokiss.
 
2013-02-10 07:46:02 PM  
FTFA(Fox): Prior to the 1970s, people viewed gender roles as as equally valuable. Many would argue women had the better end of the deal!

Yes. The roles were viewed as equally valuable -- unfortunately, the people we not.
And yes, many would argue that. Many people are idiots.

I also liked this gem:
  FTFA(Fox): Those of us with children know better. We know little girls love their dolls and boys just want to kick that ball. This doesn't mean men can't take care of babies or women can't play sports. It just means each gender has its own energy that flows in a specific direction. For God's sake, let it flow.

It's actually a fair point, but the author is contradicting herself without realizing it. She is right: people should not care about gender trends. That's just data. People shouldn't actively try to fight against biology (when it's not harmful). But, she applies that insight selectively to people who actively go against gender trend simply because they are gender trends; she insults and slights the outliers of the trends. She essentially demands universal compliance. Most boys do x, so all boys should do x. Heaven forbid a boy grows up to like other boys; if he does, then he very much must not go with the flow. Fight the flow, boy; FIGHT IT!

/granted homosexuality wasn't specifically mentioned, but the point remains RE outliers of any gender trend.
 
2013-02-10 07:46:36 PM  

thatboyoverthere: DemonEater: ClavellBCMI: Jeff_Reisberg: This unfortunate choice doesn't detract form the overall message. Traditional gender roles exist because that's the optimal allocation of resources in society -plus women aren't capable of making the complicated, continuous decisions necessary to be successful in the modern world.

Also, the link is wrong. this is not a picture from a homosexual "wedding".
1) homosexual cannot be married, as marriage is between a man and a woman.

2) Entering into a marriage agreement requires both entrants to be of sound mind. Those afflicted with the homosexual disorder are not of sound mind, and therefore are not able to enter into ANY legal arrangement.

Time to *plonk* a bigoted fundie troll.

I dunno, looks more like bad satire to me

Glanced at his profile. Seems like he has some sort of mental disorder. He's got world salad and some sort of theory as his profile bio.


As soon as I read that "bio" ("Modern Monetary Theory"), I thought, "Jared Lee Loughner?"
 
2013-02-10 07:47:58 PM  

ZoeNekros: FTFA(Fox): Prior to the 1970s, people viewed gender roles as as equally valuable. Many would argue women had the better end of the deal!

Yes. The roles were viewed as equally valuable -- unfortunately, the people we not.
And yes, many would argue that. Many people are idiots.

I also liked this gem:
  FTFA(Fox): Those of us with children know better. We know little girls love their dolls and boys just want to kick that ball. This doesn't mean men can't take care of babies or women can't play sports. It just means each gender has its own energy that flows in a specific direction. For God's sake, let it flow.

It's actually a fair point, but the author is contradicting herself without realizing it. She is right: people should not care about gender trends. That's just data. People shouldn't actively try to fight against biology (when it's not harmful). But, she applies that insight selectively to people who actively go against gender trend simply because they are gender trends; she insults and slights the outliers of the trends. She essentially demands universal compliance. Most boys do x, so all boys should do x. Heaven forbid a boy grows up to like other boys; if he does, then he very much must not go with the flow. Fight the flow, boy; FIGHT IT!

/granted homosexuality wasn't specifically mentioned, but the point remains RE outliers of any gender trend.


I know, I just finished reading that article too and found it to be pretty awful.
 
2013-02-10 07:49:04 PM  

Ishidan: thatboyoverthere:
Glanced at his profile. Seems like he has some sort of mental disorder. He's got word salad and some sort of theory as his profile bio.

Wow, his bio is like a baby TimeCube.


Hahahaha, that's a perfect description!

And the author of the article should heed her own advice and get in the kitchen and shut the hell up.
 
2013-02-10 07:52:56 PM  

sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS


Maybe one lady likes to wear dresses and one doesn't. Maybe it's not about you and your assumptions about gender roles at all.
 
2013-02-10 08:03:57 PM  
Messed around with gender roles. Dye my eyes and call me pretty. Yeeeeeeeeeeeheeeeeeeee

/got nuttin
//cept Laid stuck in my head
 
2013-02-10 08:11:35 PM  

dickfreckle: Chinchillazilla: I'm not a lesbian, but I'd get married in jeans and a t-shirt if my family would let me get away with it.

Finally, someone who isn't a redneck said it. If I'm ever dumb enough to follow through on my threats of marriage, I'm showing up in flip-flops, my favorite worn-out jeans, and probably a Saints hat.

I ask of the world - who doesn't like wearing flops and an NFL hat? Am I really an asshole for it being my go-to outfit?


People with taste? You might as well put on sweatpants and finish the ensemble.
 
2013-02-10 08:13:50 PM  
This wasn't an accident.  Fox News knows conservative religious types are sheep ready to be sheared of their cash.  Makes you wonder if anybody really believes whatever the Republicans/Teabaggers push.
 
2013-02-10 08:17:48 PM  
What we need is some good old-fashioned family values to be happy:


butihatetofu.files.wordpress.com

/Real Ad from back in the day.
 
2013-02-10 08:18:14 PM  
It's a picture of a woman trying to take on the role of a man. I don't think anyone thought that was a man. It's very appropriate for the article.. I think you guys are a little dense.
 
2013-02-10 08:21:25 PM  
Fox News did it intentionally.   They have no problem reporting to opposing viewpoints.
 
2013-02-10 08:21:35 PM  

Ishidan: ...that's not what you look like if you're *just* wearing your hat and flops.


Well, it's Carnival time in New Orleans. Have worn much less in my young years. No, seriously, you don't want to know those stories.

Honestly, I just dig on waking up and throwing on a hat and flops. I spent years trying to look handsome. Sh*t gets old after a while. If not required for work, I'm flops and the hat, man.

Bonus: recently injured my toe and it's warm-ish down here. Flops FTW. The toe gets to breathe while walking the dog or getting groceries. Or as we all call it, "making groceries."
 
2013-02-10 08:23:06 PM  

Mija: It's a picture of a woman trying to take on the role of a man. I don't think anyone thought that was a man. It's very appropriate for the article.. I think you guys are a little dense.


Yes, I'm sure that's why Fox took down the photo.
 
2013-02-10 08:23:37 PM  
FTA: It's time to say what no one else will: Feminism didn't result in equality between the sexes - it resulted in mass confusion.

It's time to say what no one else will: Never get into a knife fight with a puerto rican; they bleed acid.
 
2013-02-10 08:24:21 PM  

machodonkeywrestler: dickfreckle: Chinchillazilla: I'm not a lesbian, but I'd get married in jeans and a t-shirt if my family would let me get away with it.

Finally, someone who isn't a redneck said it. If I'm ever dumb enough to follow through on my threats of marriage, I'm showing up in flip-flops, my favorite worn-out jeans, and probably a Saints hat.

I ask of the world - who doesn't like wearing flops and an NFL hat? Am I really an asshole for it being my go-to outfit?

People with taste? You might as well put on sweatpants and finish the ensemble.


I'm still handsome, despite the ensemble.

Yes, I actually said it. Only because it's true. I don't live in a trailer park, man, I just like to take it easy. Not a crime.
 
2013-02-10 08:27:39 PM  

eddiesocket: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

Maybe one lady likes to wear dresses and one doesn't. Maybe it's not about you and your assumptions about gender roles at all.


You got me all wrong, sunshine, I have no assumptions about gender roles, but I sure has hell know what traditional gender roles are.  My question was why play to the stereotype 'traditional' marriage, especially when you don't need too?  Unless you are going out of your way to try and conform to traditional roles. NTTAWWT.
 
2013-02-10 08:29:08 PM  

coeyagi: Infernalist: winterbraid: Jeff_Reisberg: This unfortunate choice doesn't detract form the overall message. Traditional gender roles exist because that's the optimal allocation of resources in society -plus women aren't capable of making the complicated, continuous decisions necessary to be successful in the modern world.

Also, the link is wrong. this is not a picture from a homosexual "wedding".
1) homosexual cannot be married, as marriage is between a man and a woman.

2) Entering into a marriage agreement requires both entrants to be of sound mind. Those afflicted with the homosexual disorder are not of sound mind, and therefore are not able to enter into ANY legal arrangement.

amateur hour at the trollpollo?

He's got a lot of bites, I'd say he's earned at least a 5/10.

No really passionate responses and he never bothered to follow up with the requisite 'double down' derp... So only a 5.

I think when everyone who responds recognizes that it's USDA approved Grade F trolling, you get no more than a 2.


I only count responses that either don't mention trolling or aren't convinced. But then, I'm a tough critic when it comes to trollin.
 
2013-02-10 08:31:13 PM  
They're trolling us. They must be.

Or someone hates themselves for drawing a paycheck working for Faux News, and so s/he does some Brer Rabbit shiat to subtly undermine the company and make him or herself feel better.
 
2013-02-10 08:32:57 PM  
ultraholland:

[Bane]

Though its body is not of full stature, and the awareness of its surroundings is nowhere near fully-developed, this newborn troll vigorously ventures into the world, a journey wrought with peril and uncertainty. It's on its own, now, free of the security it once had in its mother's subterranean dwelling. Tenacity alone cannot guarantee this young troll's survival, for chance often trumps determination in the early days of a troll's life.

[/Bane]


Sorry for messing with perfection.  I couldn't help myself.
 
2013-02-10 08:33:30 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Enjoying your first week at fark?


What makes you think this is that troll's first time at this rodeo?
 
2013-02-10 08:34:03 PM  
Assuming that you are not gay (NTTAWWT), yeah, actually you do.

Happiness is a reward given to you by your genetics for doing things that would have furthered your survival and you genes survival for millions of years.  If you deny your hunter-gatherer roots, you are doomed to be unhappy.

Now, does that mean that a woman should be barefoot and pregnant cooking in the kitchen?  No.  But she and her husband had better do the basic things that keep each other happy on an instinctual level when possible.  If you're a guy, be the manly man that makes your wife happy.  Keep in mind that one of the main things that keeps her happy is you standing up to the challenges she will instinctually give you to test that you are manly.  This used to be called flirting.

Ladies, be feminine around the man you care about.  Make him feel welcomed and desired.  Obviously, test him a bit but have the good sense to do it at the right times.  Kind of like how he shouldn't demand sex from you at the wrong times.  Basically, be sweet and kind if he has proven to be worthy of it.  Don't be a biatch unless it is truly necessary.
 
2013-02-10 08:36:18 PM  

beta_plus: Assuming that you are not gay (NTTAWWT), yeah, actually you do.

Happiness is a reward given to you by your genetics for doing things that would have furthered your survival and you genes survival for millions of years.  If you deny your hunter-gatherer roots, you are doomed to be unhappy.

Now, does that mean that a woman should be barefoot and pregnant cooking in the kitchen?  No.  But she and her husband had better do the basic things that keep each other happy on an instinctual level when possible.  If you're a guy, be the manly man that makes your wife happy.  Keep in mind that one of the main things that keeps her happy is you standing up to the challenges she will instinctually give you to test that you are manly.  This used to be called flirting.

Ladies, be feminine around the man you care about.  Make him feel welcomed and desired.  Obviously, test him a bit but have the good sense to do it at the right times.  Kind of like how he shouldn't demand sex from you at the wrong times.  Basically, be sweet and kind if he has proven to be worthy of it.  Don't be a biatch unless it is truly necessary.


Your handle is apt.
 
2013-02-10 08:38:33 PM  

beta_plus: Assuming that you are not gay (NTTAWWT), yeah, actually you do.

Happiness is a reward given to you by your genetics for doing things that would have furthered your survival and you genes survival for millions of years.  If you deny your hunter-gatherer roots, you are doomed to be unhappy.

Now, does that mean that a woman should be barefoot and pregnant cooking in the kitchen?  No.  But she and her husband had better do the basic things that keep each other happy on an instinctual level when possible.  If you're a guy, be the manly man that makes your wife happy.  Keep in mind that one of the main things that keeps her happy is you standing up to the challenges she will instinctually give you to test that you are manly.  This used to be called flirting.

Ladies, be feminine around the man you care about.  Make him feel welcomed and desired.  Obviously, test him a bit but have the good sense to do it at the right times.  Kind of like how he shouldn't demand sex from you at the wrong times.  Basically, be sweet and kind if he has proven to be worthy of it.  Don't be a biatch unless it is truly necessary.


Take notes, Jeff. This is how you troll.
 
2013-02-10 08:43:51 PM  

Chinchillazilla: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

Well, both wearing a dress just because they're women is what's actually conforming ro gender roles. I'm guessing the woman in the suit is not the type of woman who's ever been comfortable in a dress. Some of us aren't. I'm not a lesbian, but I'd get married in jeans and a t-shirt if my family would let me get away with it.


Fark the family. When my bf and I get married it will be in tshirts and flip flops. The wedding is not for them - its for you.
 
2013-02-10 08:53:14 PM  

PsiChick: Though it may end up on FSTDT soon...


FSTDT?

*google*

well, there goes my evening.
 
2013-02-10 09:04:19 PM  

FloydA: [i105.photobucket.com image 500x313]

/meta-meme


...like the fist of an angry God...
 
2013-02-10 09:06:21 PM  
www.bitlogic.com
 
2013-02-10 09:08:17 PM  

winterbraid: beta_plus: Assuming that you are not gay (NTTAWWT), yeah, actually you do.

Happiness is a reward given to you by your genetics for doing things that would have furthered your survival and you genes survival for millions of years.  If you deny your hunter-gatherer roots, you are doomed to be unhappy.

Now, does that mean that a woman should be barefoot and pregnant cooking in the kitchen?  No.  But she and her husband had better do the basic things that keep each other happy on an instinctual level when possible.  If you're a guy, be the manly man that makes your wife happy.  Keep in mind that one of the main things that keeps her happy is you standing up to the challenges she will instinctually give you to test that you are manly.  This used to be called flirting.

Ladies, be feminine around the man you care about.  Make him feel welcomed and desired.  Obviously, test him a bit but have the good sense to do it at the right times.  Kind of like how he shouldn't demand sex from you at the wrong times.  Basically, be sweet and kind if he has proven to be worthy of it.  Don't be a biatch unless it is truly necessary.

Take notes, Jeff. This is how you troll.


He's just basically copying and pasting that dingbats article.
 
2013-02-10 09:10:55 PM  

sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS


And NOW you're falling DEEPER into gender roles by agreeing that a lesbian wedding should involve two women in a dress.
 
2013-02-10 09:14:01 PM  

winterbraid: PsiChick: Though it may end up on FSTDT soon...

FSTDT?

*google*

well, there goes my evening.


How did I not know about that site until now?
 
2013-02-10 09:15:48 PM  

winterbraid: PsiChick: Though it may end up on FSTDT soon...

FSTDT?

*google*

well, there goes my evening.


The one about vegan God coming to kick everyone's ass is particularly amusing.
 
2013-02-10 09:20:56 PM  

ariseatex: winterbraid: PsiChick: Though it may end up on FSTDT soon...

FSTDT?

*google*

well, there goes my evening.

How did I not know about that site until now?


Me and all. Knew about Bad Astromony, Right Wing Watch and the Skeptic's Annotated Bible but FSTDT is a new one for me.

Good eye. Ta.
 
2013-02-10 09:27:17 PM  

beta_plus: Assuming that you are not gay (NTTAWWT), yeah, actually you do.

Happiness is a reward given to you by your genetics for doing things that would have furthered your survival and you genes survival for millions of years.  If you deny your hunter-gatherer roots, you are doomed to be unhappy.

Now, does that mean that a woman should be barefoot and pregnant cooking in the kitchen?  No.  But she and her husband had better do the basic things that keep each other happy on an instinctual level when possible.  If you're a guy, be the manly man that makes your wife happy.  Keep in mind that one of the main things that keeps her happy is you standing up to the challenges she will instinctually give you to test that you are manly.  This used to be called flirting.

Ladies, be feminine around the man you care about.  Make him feel welcomed and desired.  Obviously, test him a bit but have the good sense to do it at the right times.  Kind of like how he shouldn't demand sex from you at the wrong times.  Basically, be sweet and kind if he has proven to be worthy of it.  Don't be a biatch unless it is truly necessary.


Well, you're now farkied as "Damn, this guy thinks he's a beta".

Don't feel too complimented, I'm using the term I learned from fanfiction pron.
 
2013-02-10 09:27:34 PM  

MontanaDave: ImpendingCynic: Jeff_Reisberg: Those afflicted with the homosexual disorder are not of sound mind, and therefore are not able to enter into ANY legal arrangement.

Attention gay people: this guy says you can stop paying your mortgage.

But then all teh gay would be teh homeless.


Only until we pitch a tent.
 
2013-02-10 09:42:45 PM  
The republican stratagem are created and distributed by The Computer; pre-Alpha Complex.
 
2013-02-10 09:44:36 PM  
DAYUM, farkers!  This poor bastard's like the ghost in the library in Ghostbusters.  ("GET HER!")

Cornelius Dribble: You're like Mike LOWell or pocket ninja...



Say, where's pocket ninja been, anybody know?  Haven't seen his certified awesome posts in like a year.
 
2013-02-10 09:45:19 PM  
dirtyeffinhippie: [/Bane]

Sorry for messing with perfection. I couldn't help myself


this is actually quite amusing as I was just out grocery shopping, commenting on my selections in the Bane voice, especially when I picked out some strawberries...all thanks to this
 
2013-02-10 09:45:59 PM  

Empty Matchbook: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

And NOW you're falling DEEPER into gender roles by agreeing that a lesbian wedding should involve two women in a dress.


It's the traditional wedding's roles (of a man and a woman) I'm questioning why they feel a need to emulate, but whatever.
 
2013-02-10 09:46:26 PM  

ten foiled hats: DAYUM, farkers!  This poor bastard's like the ghost in the library in Ghostbusters.  ("GET HER!")

Cornelius Dribble: You're like Mike LOWell or pocket ninja...


Say, where's pocket ninja been, anybody know?  Haven't seen his certified awesome posts in like a year.


He'shiat and miss lately. I've only seen him in a handful of threads in the last 6 months. But I saw him just this past week post...damned if I can remember the thread though.
 
2013-02-10 09:50:17 PM  

sno man: Empty Matchbook: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

And NOW you're falling DEEPER into gender roles by agreeing that a lesbian wedding should involve two women in a dress.

It's the traditional wedding's roles (of a man and a woman) I'm questioning why they feel a need to emulate, but whatever.


Oh, because somebody wanted her traditional white-wedding-gown wedding, you MAN! Sheesh! All little girls want their dream wedding! Just becoming a lesbian doesn't change that! I can tell by looking she wanted her white dress and veil and cake and nobody--NOBODY--was going to cheat her out of that. Being gay doesn't mean you give up your dreams.
 
2013-02-10 09:50:57 PM  

ultraholland: dirtyeffinhippie: [/Bane]

Sorry for messing with perfection. I couldn't help myself

this is actually quite amusing as I was just out grocery shopping, commenting on my selections in the Bane voice, especially when I picked out some strawberries...all thanks to this


Bane doing "toasty" gets me every time.
 
2013-02-10 09:51:27 PM  

Pincy: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they just have this exact same article (by the same author even) like two months ago?

The picture they used last time was more amusing too:

[img.gawkerassets.com image 640x360]

Ya, I don't think most of us are surprised that Fox News runs a "women should know their place" article every month or so.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3wVAjmjIv4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39qdhbkTko4
 
2013-02-10 09:51:48 PM  
Traditional gender roles won't make everyone happy anymore than everyone enjoys sports.

People are different, the things makes them happy are different. Deal with it conservative biatch
 
2013-02-10 09:55:15 PM  

ariseatex: winterbraid: PsiChick: Though it may end up on FSTDT soon...

FSTDT?

*google*

well, there goes my evening.

How did I not know about that site until now?


Aww man...I knew I shouldn't have clicked.
 
2013-02-10 09:56:51 PM  

BMulligan: Maybe. And I wonder if Alaska (the couple's home state) or New York (scene of the photograph) recognizes the tort of false light or permits non-celebrities to assert the right of publicity.


Why would them being or not being a celebrity make any difference?  I thought laws were supposed to cover all equally.
 
2013-02-10 10:12:05 PM  

Cornelius Dribble: But now I'm afraid you are no longer amusing. You're like Mike LOWell or pocket ninja without any of the wit and irony that makes their posts worth reading. You're just plain boring..


OK, comparisons to Pocket Ninja? Really? Not even close.
Speaking of, um, other people not in this thread that I don't personally want to name because it's against the rules, I've noticed something odd lately. There seems to be a rash of obvious troll accounts going legit. Hell, at least one of those people is in this thread right now. What's the deal? I have a hard time believing that anyone with a user name like LOLiTrollU or whatever doesn't already have a legit account, so why wouldn't these people just use their normal accounts to post non-stupid things?
 
2013-02-10 10:20:09 PM  

Gyrfalcon: sno man: Empty Matchbook: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

And NOW you're falling DEEPER into gender roles by agreeing that a lesbian wedding should involve two women in a dress.

It's the traditional wedding's roles (of a man and a woman) I'm questioning why they feel a need to emulate, but whatever.

Oh, because somebody wanted her traditional white-wedding-gown wedding, you MAN! Sheesh! All little girls want their dream wedding! Just becoming a lesbian doesn't change that! I can tell by looking she wanted her white dress and veil and cake and nobody--NOBODY--was going to cheat her out of that. Being gay doesn't mean you give up your dreams.


Most of the little girls that grew up and identify as lesbians that I know had different dreams I guess.  One couple both had tuxedo's. Another wedding you might have been forgiven to think it was a certain Monty Python skit (EVERYONE, all the guests too, in plaid shirts and jeans *was a blast btw*) A third, both got to live 'every little girls' dream and had VERY nice bridal gowns (!).  Each to their own, and all...
 
2013-02-10 10:30:31 PM  
I don't know what's worse -- that this idiot was bored enough to pull out his instatroll alt again, or that all you idiots were bored enough to spend the day responding to it.
 
2013-02-10 10:31:26 PM  

Lord Jubjub: "She" has a pronounced Adam's apple.


Well, TBF, so does conservative mouthpiece Ann Coulter.  So I can understand Fox's confusion.
 
2013-02-10 10:39:32 PM  

PsiChick: beta_plus: Assuming that you are not gay (NTTAWWT), yeah, actually you do.

Happiness is a reward given to you by your genetics for doing things that would have furthered your survival and you genes survival for millions of years.  If you deny your hunter-gatherer roots, you are doomed to be unhappy.

Now, does that mean that a woman should be barefoot and pregnant cooking in the kitchen?  No.  But she and her husband had better do the basic things that keep each other happy on an instinctual level when possible.  If you're a guy, be the manly man that makes your wife happy.  Keep in mind that one of the main things that keeps her happy is you standing up to the challenges she will instinctually give you to test that you are manly.  This used to be called flirting.

Ladies, be feminine around the man you care about.  Make him feel welcomed and desired.  Obviously, test him a bit but have the good sense to do it at the right times.  Kind of like how he shouldn't demand sex from you at the wrong times.  Basically, be sweet and kind if he has proven to be worthy of it.  Don't be a biatch unless it is truly necessary.

Well, you're now farkied as "Damn, this guy thinks he's a beta".

Don't feel too complimented, I'm using the term I learned from fanfiction pron.


Hope your enjoy your cats.

/at least I'm honest about where I am
//best of luck in your case
 
2013-02-10 10:42:59 PM  

winterbraid: beta_plus: Assuming that you are not gay (NTTAWWT), yeah, actually you do.

Happiness is a reward given to you by your genetics for doing things that would have furthered your survival and you genes survival for millions of years.  If you deny your hunter-gatherer roots, you are doomed to be unhappy.

Now, does that mean that a woman should be barefoot and pregnant cooking in the kitchen?  No.  But she and her husband had better do the basic things that keep each other happy on an instinctual level when possible.  If you're a guy, be the manly man that makes your wife happy.  Keep in mind that one of the main things that keeps her happy is you standing up to the challenges she will instinctually give you to test that you are manly.  This used to be called flirting.

Ladies, be feminine around the man you care about.  Make him feel welcomed and desired.  Obviously, test him a bit but have the good sense to do it at the right times.  Kind of like how he shouldn't demand sex from you at the wrong times.  Basically, be sweet and kind if he has proven to be worthy of it.  Don't be a biatch unless it is truly necessary.

Take notes, Jeff. This is how you troll.


I'm sorry that basic biological truths hurt your feelings.  I'm sure we can pass a law against it.
 
2013-02-10 10:46:39 PM  

beta_plus: I'm sorry that basic biological truths hurt your feelings. I'm sure we can pass a law against it.


You might want to be a little more careful of asserting that stuff as "basic biological truths". It's pseudoscience at best, and total junk at its worst.

Most good scientists recognize that biological sex is a pretty poor indicator of behavior and of strengths and weaknesses.
 
2013-02-10 10:47:38 PM  

quatchi: ariseatex: winterbraid: PsiChick: Though it may end up on FSTDT soon...

FSTDT?

*google*

well, there goes my evening.

How did I not know about that site until now?

Me and all. Knew about Bad Astromony, Right Wing Watch and the Skeptic's Annotated Bible but FSTDT is a new one for me.

Good eye. Ta.


Thanks! :) I try to avoid it, too much and I get crazy depressed, but it's like chocolate. You just can't stay away.

beta_plus: Well, you're now farkied as "Damn, this guy thinks he's a beta".

Don't feel too complimented, I'm using the term I learned from fanfiction pron.

Hope your enjoy your cats.

/at least I'm honest about where I am
//best of luck in your case


You know, I can have sex pretty much whenever I want. Sex with people who  don't expect me to conform to a personality quiz made up by someone with no understanding of science.

Somehow, I don't see an embittered Omega doing anywhere near as well...

/Make sure you know a clinic that provides STD checks.
 
2013-02-10 10:48:17 PM  

Lord Jubjub: "She" has a pronounced Adam's apple.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-10 10:49:03 PM  

Infernalist: beta_plus: Assuming that you are not gay (NTTAWWT), yeah, actually you do.

Happiness is a reward given to you by your genetics for doing things that would have furthered your survival and you genes survival for millions of years.  If you deny your hunter-gatherer roots, you are doomed to be unhappy.

Now, does that mean that a woman should be barefoot and pregnant cooking in the kitchen?  No.  But she and her husband had better do the basic things that keep each other happy on an instinctual level when possible.  If you're a guy, be the manly man that makes your wife happy.  Keep in mind that one of the main things that keeps her happy is you standing up to the challenges she will instinctually give you to test that you are manly.  This used to be called flirting.

Ladies, be feminine around the man you care about.  Make him feel welcomed and desired.  Obviously, test him a bit but have the good sense to do it at the right times.  Kind of like how he shouldn't demand sex from you at the wrong times.  Basically, be sweet and kind if he has proven to be worthy of it.  Don't be a biatch unless it is truly necessary.

Your handle is apt.


Yeah, I'm sure you banging models right now in your hummer stretch limo.  At least, that's probably what you're fantasizing in your mom's basement.
 
2013-02-10 10:49:27 PM  

Chariset: Some intern at Fox News is so fired.


Nonsense.  Slaves have to be sold.
 
2013-02-10 10:52:36 PM  

ultraholland: all thanks to this


I almost pissed my pants!  Bahahahaha!
 
2013-02-10 10:58:30 PM  

papillon3111: Either way, not worth reading.


You were quoting a conversation three quotes deep, but I can't find any of it on this page prior to your cite.  How does that work?
 
2013-02-10 11:04:26 PM  

Genevieve Marie: beta_plus: I'm sorry that basic biological truths hurt your feelings. I'm sure we can pass a law against it.

You might want to be a little more careful of asserting that stuff as "basic biological truths". It's pseudoscience at best, and total junk at its worst.

Most good scientists recognize that biological sex is a pretty poor indicator of behavior and of strengths and weaknesses.


Define "poor". Depending on your sex, you are statistically more likely to have certain physiological strengths and weaknesses. Depending on your sex, you are statistically more likely to have certain mental strengths and weaknesses. Depending on your sex, you are--according to research where it's impossible to control all the variables--probably more likely to display certain psychological tendencies.

It's sh*t for precision, but it's a pretty good statistical indicator. Similarly, actuarial tables won't tell me when I'll die, but they give a pretty good statistical picture of how many years a 6'1", 260lb, 35yo male with a 20-year smoking habit and a weekend binge drinking habit from Appalachia might live.
 
2013-02-10 11:14:45 PM  

ultraholland: oh this is good


Now and then. More often than not.
 
2013-02-10 11:17:15 PM  

mrlewish: BMulligan: Maybe. And I wonder if Alaska (the couple's home state) or New York (scene of the photograph) recognizes the tort of false light or permits non-celebrities to assert the right of publicity.

Why would them being or not being a celebrity make any difference? I thought laws were supposed to cover all equally.


If you take a picture of some random person on the street and sell it for money without getting a model release first, there are legal consequences.  Yet paparazzi do this to celebrities all the time.

Furthermore, professional photographers who take wedding photos retain rights to the photographic work involved unless some other legal arrangement (such as "work for hire") has explicitly been made.  The picture in question looks like a posed wedding photo taken by a professional photographer, IMHO.  I would be one thing for the couple to use the picture on their facebook page or in a newsletter to friends and relatives, quite another for Fox to use the image for commercial purposes without obtaining the rights.
 
2013-02-10 11:18:22 PM  

mrlewish: BMulligan: Maybe. And I wonder if Alaska (the couple's home state) or New York (scene of the photograph) recognizes the tort of false light or permits non-celebrities to assert the right of publicity.

Why would them being or not being a celebrity make any difference?  I thought laws were supposed to cover all equally.


Equal protection doesn't mean that everyone has to be treated equally; it means that all similarly situated parties are treated equally under the law. Many states only allow recovery for violation of right of publicity where the plaintiff's name and likeness have an established economic value prior to the alleged tort - my state is one of them. Other states have no such limitation, and there may be states that still don't recognize the cause of action at all (I haven't had to worry about the controlling statutes in any other jurisdictions since law school).
 
2013-02-10 11:27:22 PM  

Chinchillazilla: How can you even do that on accident? I could Google "wedding kiss" and find you hundreds of thousands of stock photos of heterosexual couples kissing in like thirty seconds.


it's a top result because it was a rather historic marriage, one of the first same-sex marriages in New York, and clearly the first same-sex on the Empire State Building
 
2013-02-10 11:39:31 PM  

sno man: ultraholland: oh this is good

Now and then. More often than not.


EIP  The living planet rocks....
 
2013-02-10 11:49:52 PM  

dickfreckle: machodonkeywrestler: dickfreckle: Chinchillazilla: I'm not a lesbian, but I'd get married in jeans and a t-shirt if my family would let me get away with it.

Finally, someone who isn't a redneck said it. If I'm ever dumb enough to follow through on my threats of marriage, I'm showing up in flip-flops, my favorite worn-out jeans, and probably a Saints hat.

I ask of the world - who doesn't like wearing flops and an NFL hat? Am I really an asshole for it being my go-to outfit?

People with taste? You might as well put on sweatpants and finish the ensemble.

I'm still handsome, despite the ensemble.

Yes, I actually said it. Only because it's true. I don't live in a trailer park, man, I just like to take it easy. Not a crime.


I'm only half-kidding around. You are welcome to wear what you please.
 
2013-02-10 11:51:41 PM  

beta_plus: Infernalist: beta_plus: Assuming that you are not gay (NTTAWWT), yeah, actually you do.

Happiness is a reward given to you by your genetics for doing things that would have furthered your survival and you genes survival for millions of years.  If you deny your hunter-gatherer roots, you are doomed to be unhappy.

Now, does that mean that a woman should be barefoot and pregnant cooking in the kitchen?  No.  But she and her husband had better do the basic things that keep each other happy on an instinctual level when possible.  If you're a guy, be the manly man that makes your wife happy.  Keep in mind that one of the main things that keeps her happy is you standing up to the challenges she will instinctually give you to test that you are manly.  This used to be called flirting.

Ladies, be feminine around the man you care about.  Make him feel welcomed and desired.  Obviously, test him a bit but have the good sense to do it at the right times.  Kind of like how he shouldn't demand sex from you at the wrong times.  Basically, be sweet and kind if he has proven to be worthy of it.  Don't be a biatch unless it is truly necessary.

Your handle is apt.

Yeah, I'm sure you banging models right now in your hummer stretch limo.  At least, that's probably what you're fantasizing in your mom's basement.


Pot meet kettle.
 
2013-02-11 12:08:02 AM  

TopoGigo: Genevieve Marie: beta_plus: I'm sorry that basic biological truths hurt your feelings. I'm sure we can pass a law against it.

You might want to be a little more careful of asserting that stuff as "basic biological truths". It's pseudoscience at best, and total junk at its worst.

Most good scientists recognize that biological sex is a pretty poor indicator of behavior and of strengths and weaknesses.

Define "poor". Depending on your sex, you are statistically more likely to have certain physiological strengths and weaknesses. Depending on your sex, you are statistically more likely to have certain mental strengths and weaknesses. Depending on your sex, you are--according to research where it's impossible to control all the variables--probably more likely to display certain psychological tendencies.

It's sh*t for precision, but it's a pretty good statistical indicator. Similarly, actuarial tables won't tell me when I'll die, but they give a pretty good statistical picture of how many years a 6'1", 260lb, 35yo male with a 20-year smoking habit and a weekend binge drinking habit from Appalachia might live.


Quite frankly, I'm amazed you had enough time to finish your response.
 
2013-02-11 12:08:27 AM  

sno man: eddiesocket: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

Maybe one lady likes to wear dresses and one doesn't. Maybe it's not about you and your assumptions about gender roles at all.

You got me all wrong, sunshine, I have no assumptions about gender roles, but I sure has hell know what traditional gender roles are.  My question was why play to the stereotype 'traditional' marriage, especially when you don't need too?  Unless you are going out of your way to try and conform to traditional roles. NTTAWWT.


What's the stereotype you believe they're conforming to, knowing absolutely zero about their lives and all? Why do they need your wardrobe approval at their wedding?
 
2013-02-11 12:11:07 AM  

eddiesocket: sno man: eddiesocket: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

Maybe one lady likes to wear dresses and one doesn't. Maybe it's not about you and your assumptions about gender roles at all.

You got me all wrong, sunshine, I have no assumptions about gender roles, but I sure has hell know what traditional gender roles are.  My question was why play to the stereotype 'traditional' marriage, especially when you don't need too?  Unless you are going out of your way to try and conform to traditional roles. NTTAWWT.

What's the stereotype you believe they're conforming to, knowing absolutely zero about their lives and all? Why do they need your wardrobe approval at their wedding?


Are you really that obtuse?
 
2013-02-11 12:16:02 AM  

sno man: eddiesocket: sno man: eddiesocket: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

Maybe one lady likes to wear dresses and one doesn't. Maybe it's not about you and your assumptions about gender roles at all.

You got me all wrong, sunshine, I have no assumptions about gender roles, but I sure has hell know what traditional gender roles are.  My question was why play to the stereotype 'traditional' marriage, especially when you don't need too?  Unless you are going out of your way to try and conform to traditional roles. NTTAWWT.

What's the stereotype you believe they're conforming to, knowing absolutely zero about their lives and all? Why do they need your wardrobe approval at their wedding?

Are you really that obtuse?


Well argued.
Now how about you stop telling lesbians that they're selling out by wearing clothes you don't approve of, or whatever the fark you're going on about.
 
2013-02-11 12:16:56 AM  

sno man: eddiesocket: sno man: eddiesocket: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

Maybe one lady likes to wear dresses and one doesn't. Maybe it's not about you and your assumptions about gender roles at all.

You got me all wrong, sunshine, I have no assumptions about gender roles, but I sure has hell know what traditional gender roles are.  My question was why play to the stereotype 'traditional' marriage, especially when you don't need too?  Unless you are going out of your way to try and conform to traditional roles. NTTAWWT.

What's the stereotype you believe they're conforming to, knowing absolutely zero about their lives and all? Why do they need your wardrobe approval at their wedding?

Are you really that obtuse?


or maybe you're just learning English?
 
2013-02-11 12:18:09 AM  

eddiesocket: sno man: eddiesocket: sno man: eddiesocket: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

Maybe one lady likes to wear dresses and one doesn't. Maybe it's not about you and your assumptions about gender roles at all.

You got me all wrong, sunshine, I have no assumptions about gender roles, but I sure has hell know what traditional gender roles are.  My question was why play to the stereotype 'traditional' marriage, especially when you don't need too?  Unless you are going out of your way to try and conform to traditional roles. NTTAWWT.

What's the stereotype you believe they're conforming to, knowing absolutely zero about their lives and all? Why do they need your wardrobe approval at their wedding?

Are you really that obtuse?

Well argued.
Now how about you stop telling lesbians that they're selling out by wearing clothes you don't approve of, or whatever the fark you're going on about.


approve? WTF...dude(?) grow up.
 
2013-02-11 12:20:12 AM  
Lela Mc Arthur and Stephanie Figarelle of Anchorag, Alaska

Figures.
 
2013-02-11 12:28:16 AM  

Doktor_Zhivago: That is either one hot dude as the bride or one ugly chick as the groom.  I can't tell...


I realize that no women in your church would ever cut their hair short, so her hairstyle makes you confused and angry, but I'd say that's a pretty handsome dyke.
 
2013-02-11 12:30:15 AM  

pciszek: papillon3111: Either way, not worth reading.

You were quoting a conversation three quotes deep, but I can't find any of it on this page prior to your cite.  How does that work?


Huh, mods must have zapped it. Probably missed my quote of it.
 
2013-02-11 12:38:49 AM  
I actually learned something today:

www.todayifoundout.com

/honestly did not know much about the larynx
 
2013-02-11 12:39:45 AM  

beta_plus: Infernalist: beta_plus: Assuming that you are not gay (NTTAWWT), yeah, actually you do.

Happiness is a reward given to you by your genetics for doing things that would have furthered your survival and you genes survival for millions of years.  If you deny your hunter-gatherer roots, you are doomed to be unhappy.

Now, does that mean that a woman should be barefoot and pregnant cooking in the kitchen?  No.  But she and her husband had better do the basic things that keep each other happy on an instinctual level when possible.  If you're a guy, be the manly man that makes your wife happy.  Keep in mind that one of the main things that keeps her happy is you standing up to the challenges she will instinctually give you to test that you are manly.  This used to be called flirting.

Ladies, be feminine around the man you care about.  Make him feel welcomed and desired.  Obviously, test him a bit but have the good sense to do it at the right times.  Kind of like how he shouldn't demand sex from you at the wrong times.  Basically, be sweet and kind if he has proven to be worthy of it.  Don't be a biatch unless it is truly necessary.

Your handle is apt.

Yeah, I'm sure you banging models right now in your hummer stretch limo.  At least, that's probably what you're fantasizing in your mom's basement.


It's kinda hilarious how defensive you're being, but none of that changes the basic argument that everyone is making about your initial post; Your comprehension of relationships is embarrassingly naive and primitive.

Have you even ever been married, or dated long term? Were you compelled to be the "manly man" while she "tested" you, or told you were "demanding sex" at the wrong times?

/It's that last point that the creepiest, by the way.
 
2013-02-11 01:17:55 AM  

Mija: It's a picture of a woman trying to take on the role of a man. I don't think anyone thought that was a man. It's very appropriate for the article.. I think you guys are a little dense.


I don't think a happy looking woman "taking on the role of a man" really supports the author's assertion that she could only really be happy if she was fulfilling the traditional female role.
 
2013-02-11 01:20:22 AM  

Genevieve Marie: beta_plus: I'm sorry that basic biological truths hurt your feelings. I'm sure we can pass a law against it.

You might want to be a little more careful of asserting that stuff as "basic biological truths". It's pseudoscience at best, and total junk at its worst.

Most good scientists recognize that biological sex is a pretty poor indicator of behavior and of strengths and weaknesses.


By most, you mean pretty much none that has in any way examined the behavior of human beings.

The notion that all human behavior is cultural and none of it biological is basically 20th century social scientists who where afraid that if it were otherwise then racism was justified and women would be all barefoot and pregnant.

There is profound differences in behavior between the genders.  They exist in every society on this planet.    Violence is one of the most obvious.  Men are far more violent then women.

There have been boys who by accident lost a penis as babies.  So vaginas were made surgically and they were raised as girls.   And yet they self-identified as boys even without being told that they were boys.

Of course, very few to none of the real gender differences has anything to do with the ability to learn a job that requires using one's intelligence.  (There have been studies that suggest one sex is better at certain mental tasks than the other, but the overlap is great to make it worthless for judging a person.)
 
2013-02-11 01:20:59 AM  

ZoeNekros: FTFA(Fox): Prior to the 1970s, people viewed gender roles as as equally valuable. Many would argue women had the better end of the deal!

Yes. The roles were viewed as equally valuable -- unfortunately, the people we not.
And yes, many would argue that. Many people are idiots.

I also liked this gem:
  FTFA(Fox): Those of us with children know better. We know little girls love their dolls and boys just want to kick that ball. This doesn't mean men can't take care of babies or women can't play sports. It just means each gender has its own energy that flows in a specific direction. For God's sake, let it flow.

It's actually a fair point, but the author is contradicting herself without realizing it. She is right: people should not care about gender trends. That's just data. People shouldn't actively try to fight against biology (when it's not harmful). But, she applies that insight selectively to people who actively go against gender trend simply because they are gender trends; she insults and slights the outliers of the trends. She essentially demands universal compliance. Most boys do x, so all boys should do x. Heaven forbid a boy grows up to like other boys; if he does, then he very much must not go with the flow. Fight the flow, boy; FIGHT IT!

/granted homosexuality wasn't specifically mentioned, but the point remains RE outliers of any gender trend.


Oh, I get it now. The reason I turned out to be gay was because my parents were fighting natural gender roles by giving me cars and trucks and blocks to play with and by teaching me to play sports (well, trying, anyway, I have zero eye-hand coordination so it didn't really work). If only they hadn't handed down all of my older brother's toys to me and had given me more than one Barbie doll to play with, I'd be straight and married with a half dozen kids by now. That's just what happens when you try to fight against nature.
 
2013-02-11 01:25:14 AM  

dickfreckle: Chinchillazilla: I'm not a lesbian, but I'd get married in jeans and a t-shirt if my family would let me get away with it.

Finally, someone who isn't a redneck said it. If I'm ever dumb enough to follow through on my threats of marriage, I'm showing up in flip-flops, my favorite worn-out jeans, and probably a Saints hat.

I ask of the world - who doesn't like wearing flops and an NFL hat? Am I really an asshole for it being my go-to outfit?


The only part of that making you an asshole is the Saints hat....
 
2013-02-11 01:40:53 AM  

clowncar on fire: TopoGigo: Genevieve Marie: beta_plus: I'm sorry that basic biological truths hurt your feelings. I'm sure we can pass a law against it.

You might want to be a little more careful of asserting that stuff as "basic biological truths". It's pseudoscience at best, and total junk at its worst.

Most good scientists recognize that biological sex is a pretty poor indicator of behavior and of strengths and weaknesses.

Define "poor". Depending on your sex, you are statistically more likely to have certain physiological strengths and weaknesses. Depending on your sex, you are statistically more likely to have certain mental strengths and weaknesses. Depending on your sex, you are--according to research where it's impossible to control all the variables--probably more likely to display certain psychological tendencies.

It's sh*t for precision, but it's a pretty good statistical indicator. Similarly, actuarial tables won't tell me when I'll die, but they give a pretty good statistical picture of how many years a 6'1", 260lb, 35yo male with a 20-year smoking habit and a weekend binge drinking habit from Appalachia might live.

Quite frankly, I'm amazed you had enough time to finish your response.


I'm actually having a heart attack as we speak, so I'm really getting a kick out of GGGRRRKKKK!
 
2013-02-11 01:41:16 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Oh, because somebody wanted her traditional white-wedding-gown wedding, you MAN! Sheesh! All little girls want their dream wedding! Just becoming a lesbian doesn't change that! I can tell by looking she wanted her white dress and veil and cake and nobody--NOBODY--was going to cheat her out of that. Being gay doesn't mean you give up your dreams.


Is this sarcasm?

I can't tell anymore :(

Anyway, where does teh white gown princess for a day dream come from?
 
2013-02-11 01:41:37 AM  
media.smithsonianmag.com

FDR conforming to traditional gender roles of his time.
 
2013-02-11 02:46:41 AM  

sendtodave: Gyrfalcon: Oh, because somebody wanted her traditional white-wedding-gown wedding, you MAN! Sheesh! All little girls want their dream wedding! Just becoming a lesbian doesn't change that! I can tell by looking she wanted her white dress and veil and cake and nobody--NOBODY--was going to cheat her out of that. Being gay doesn't mean you give up your dreams.

Is this sarcasm?

I can't tell anymore :(

Anyway, where does teh white gown princess for a day dream come from?


Two parts from Walt Disney's rotting corpse, and one part from the ghost of Jane Austen.
 
2013-02-11 02:46:46 AM  

gingerjet: Chinchillazilla: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

Well, both wearing a dress just because they're women is what's actually conforming ro gender roles. I'm guessing the woman in the suit is not the type of woman who's ever been comfortable in a dress. Some of us aren't. I'm not a lesbian, but I'd get married in jeans and a t-shirt if my family would let me get away with it.

Fark the family. When my bf and I get married it will be in tshirts and flip flops. The wedding is not for them - its for you.


Yeah, I know. I kind of exaggerated with "if they would let me". They'd let me and wouldn't argue, but I think my mom would enjoy the whole "dress-shopping, makeover, girl time" thing, so I'd probably go traditional just for that.

/moot anyway
//marriage is not on my radar
 
2013-02-11 02:52:07 AM  

g4lt: Chinchillazilla: How can you even do that on accident? I could Google "wedding kiss" and find you hundreds of thousands of stock photos of heterosexual couples kissing in like thirty seconds.

it's a top result because it was a rather historic marriage, one of the first same-sex marriages in New York, and clearly the first same-sex on the Empire State Building


I doubt it was the first same-sex on the Empire State, just the first wedding.
 
2013-02-11 06:55:19 AM  
I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.
 
2013-02-11 07:15:11 AM  

Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.


Here's an idea: go find some lesbians who are willing to talk about what it is to them to be a lesbian and ask them. Just don't be condescending.  You'll probably have a better understanding of their perspective of attraction then.  Then you don't have to make the same boring comments that everyone  makes when topics like this emerge. I'm not a part of the gay community, but I'm friends with quite a few that are..so when I see a phenomenon I don't understand, I ask about it and they explain it to me.
 
2013-02-11 08:10:29 AM  

gulogulo: Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.

Here's an idea: go find some lesbians who are willing to talk about what it is to them to be a lesbian and ask them. Just don't be condescending.  You'll probably have a better understanding of their perspective of attraction then.  Then you don't have to make the same boring comments that everyone  makes when topics like this emerge. I'm not a part of the gay community, but I'm friends with quite a few that are..so when I see a phenomenon I don't understand, I ask about it and they explain it to me.


just no
don't ask
trust me
 
2013-02-11 08:20:24 AM  

Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.


Maybe you should only concern yourself with your own sexual preferences? Get the idea here...
 
2013-02-11 09:55:37 AM  
I honestly think Conservatives have no gaydar. Zero. They think Marcus Bachmann is as straight as an arrow, so there's that.

Their gaydar is so non-existent, many of them are walking around, living a life that's a cross of The Adventures of Priscilla  Queen Of The Desert and The Sixth Sense. We see queer people, but many of them don't even know they're gay.

i301.photobucket.com

Republican version of a straight flush.

/NNTAWWT...
 
2013-02-11 09:58:45 AM  

Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.


I'm straight, but women with this kind of short haircut?

www.hairfinder.com

Hubba hubba. Must be the exposed neck and earlobes or something. All I know is: pretty women, nice. Pretty women with short hair, super nice.
 
2013-02-11 10:10:00 AM  

gulogulo: Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.

Here's an idea: go find some lesbians who are willing to talk about what it is to them to be a lesbian and ask them. Just don't be condescending.  You'll probably have a better understanding of their perspective of attraction then.  Then you don't have to make the same boring comments that everyone  makes when topics like this emerge. I'm not a part of the gay community, but I'm friends with quite a few that are..so when I see a phenomenon I don't understand, I ask about it and they explain it to me.


what and get some answer that is a lie and only designed to justify their abnormal desires.A woman who says she is a lesbian but only is attracted to butch type women has issues and really is a woman who wants a man but has been told and came to believe she is a lesbian.
 
2013-02-11 10:27:11 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: There have been boys who by accident lost a penis as babies.


"Accident" generally meaning "botched circumcision."
 
2013-02-11 10:38:13 AM  

rynthetyn: Oh, I get it now. The reason I turned out to be gay was because my parents were fighting natural gender roles by giving me cars and trucks and blocks to play with and by teaching me to play sports (well, trying, anyway, I have zero eye-hand coordination so it didn't really work). If only they hadn't handed down all of my older brother's toys to me and had given me more than one Barbie doll to play with, I'd be straight and married with a half dozen kids by now. That's just what happens when you try to fight against nature.


We both know that some people actually believe such nonsense.

/[D]ark, benighted, putrid corner of crackerdom, indeed.
 
2013-02-11 10:38:48 AM  

Waldo Pepper: gulogulo: Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.

Here's an idea: go find some lesbians who are willing to talk about what it is to them to be a lesbian and ask them. Just don't be condescending.  You'll probably have a better understanding of their perspective of attraction then.  Then you don't have to make the same boring comments that everyone  makes when topics like this emerge. I'm not a part of the gay community, but I'm friends with quite a few that are..so when I see a phenomenon I don't understand, I ask about it and they explain it to me.

what and get some answer that is a lie and only designed to justify their abnormal desires.A woman who says she is a lesbian but only is attracted to butch type women has issues and really is a woman who wants a man but has been told and came to believe she is a lesbian.


I see. So your issue is that you don't believe that people can be naturally lesbian, or that all lesbians must be girly girls, attracted to other girly girls. This is in spite of the fact that many men are attracted to women who are not girly at all. Does that make them secretly gay? Or is it possible at all that people are attracted to other people for reasons aside from the way they look and that people generally dress however they feel the most comfortable (business suits aside)?
 
2013-02-11 10:40:04 AM  

Selena Luna: Waldo Pepper: gulogulo: Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.

Here's an idea: go find some lesbians who are willing to talk about what it is to them to be a lesbian and ask them. Just don't be condescending.  You'll probably have a better understanding of their perspective of attraction then.  Then you don't have to make the same boring comments that everyone  makes when topics like this emerge. I'm not a part of the gay community, but I'm friends with quite a few that are..so when I see a phenomenon I don't understand, I ask about it and they explain it to me.

what and get some answer that is a lie and only designed to justify their abnormal desires.A woman who says she is a lesbian but only is attracted to butch type women has issues and really is a woman who wants a man but has been told and came to believe she is a lesbian.

I see. So your issue is that you don't believe that people can be naturally lesbian, or that all lesbians must be girly girls, attracted to other girly girls. This is in spite of the fact that many men are attracted to women who are not girly at all. Does that make them secretly gay? Or is it possible at all that people are attracted to other people for reasons aside from the way they look and that people generally dress however they feel the most comfortable (business suits aside)?


i stand by what I said..
 
2013-02-11 10:51:27 AM  

Selena Luna: Waldo Pepper: gulogulo: Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.

Here's an idea: go find some lesbians who are willing to talk about what it is to them to be a lesbian and ask them. Just don't be condescending.  You'll probably have a better understanding of their perspective of attraction then.  Then you don't have to make the same boring comments that everyone  makes when topics like this emerge. I'm not a part of the gay community, but I'm friends with quite a few that are..so when I see a phenomenon I don't understand, I ask about it and they explain it to me.

what and get some answer that is a lie and only designed to justify their abnormal desires.A woman who says she is a lesbian but only is attracted to butch type women has issues and really is a woman who wants a man but has been told and came to believe she is a lesbian.

I see. So your issue is that you don't believe that people can be naturally lesbian, or that all lesbians must be girly girls, attracted to other girly girls. This is in spite of the fact that many men are attracted to women who are not girly at all. Does that make them secretly gay? Or is it possible at all that people are attracted to other people for reasons aside from the way they look and that people generally dress however they feel the most comfortable (business suits aside)?


Please don't feed it.

/Tell Lester I said, "Yá'át'ééh ."
 
2013-02-11 10:51:55 AM  

Jackpot777: Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.

I'm straight, but women with this kind of short haircut?

[www.hairfinder.com image 299x400]

Hubba hubba. Must be the exposed neck and earlobes or something. All I know is: pretty women, nice. Pretty women with short hair, super nice.


3.bp.blogspot.com

static.betazeta.com
 
2013-02-11 11:03:45 AM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Selena Luna: Waldo Pepper: gulogulo: Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.

Here's an idea: go find some lesbians who are willing to talk about what it is to them to be a lesbian and ask them. Just don't be condescending.  You'll probably have a better understanding of their perspective of attraction then.  Then you don't have to make the same boring comments that everyone  makes when topics like this emerge. I'm not a part of the gay community, but I'm friends with quite a few that are..so when I see a phenomenon I don't understand, I ask about it and they explain it to me.

what and get some answer that is a lie and only designed to justify their abnormal desires.A woman who says she is a lesbian but only is attracted to butch type women has issues and really is a woman who wants a man but has been told and came to believe she is a lesbian.

I see. So your issue is that you don't believe that people can be naturally lesbian, or that all lesbians must be girly girls, attracted to other girly girls. This is in spite of the fact that many men are attracted to women who are not girly at all. Does that make them secretly gay? Or is it possible at all that people are attracted to other people for reasons aside from the way they look and that people generally dress however they feel the most comfortable (business suits aside)?

Please don't feed it.

/Tell Lester I said, "Yá'át'ééh ."


I know five Lesters, and there are 120,000 people on this rez, but if I see your particular Lester, I will certainly tell him hello.
 
2013-02-11 11:52:40 AM  

Waldo Pepper: gulogulo: Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.

Here's an idea: go find some lesbians who are willing to talk about what it is to them to be a lesbian and ask them. Just don't be condescending.  You'll probably have a better understanding of their perspective of attraction then.  Then you don't have to make the same boring comments that everyone  makes when topics like this emerge. I'm not a part of the gay community, but I'm friends with quite a few that are..so when I see a phenomenon I don't understand, I ask about it and they explain it to me.

what and get some answer that is a lie and only designed to justify their abnormal desires.A woman who says she is a lesbian but only is attracted to butch type women has issues and really is a woman who wants a man but has been told and came to believe she is a lesbian.


What's wrong with fulfilling abnormal desires? I'd find the world to be incredibly boring if everyone fit so neatly into all your little boxes...
 
2013-02-11 12:15:05 PM  

RugNug: ariseatex: winterbraid: PsiChick: Though it may end up on FSTDT soon...

FSTDT?

*google*

well, there goes my evening.

How did I not know about that site until now?

Aww man...I knew I shouldn't have clicked.


It was the acronym.. it was so cryptic.... Now I can't stop

Damn you.. damn you straight to hell!
 
2013-02-11 12:23:55 PM  

Dear Jerk: Underpaid and disgusted non-wingnut Fox intern who managed to embarrass the company #312.


I'm starting to agree that FN isn't necessarily incompetent but filled with a few people who like to sabotage it occasionally. Well, they may be incompetent too but not nearly as much as they appear, due to sabotage.
 
2013-02-11 12:44:58 PM  

vygramul: Jackpot777: Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.

I'm straight, but women with this kind of short haircut?

[www.hairfinder.com image 299x400]

Hubba hubba. Must be the exposed neck and earlobes or something. All I know is: pretty women, nice. Pretty women with short hair, super nice.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 317x460]

[static.betazeta.com image 376x490]


I can fap to that.

/I'll be in my bunk.
 
2013-02-11 12:55:41 PM  

omgbears: Waldo Pepper: gulogulo: Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.

Here's an idea: go find some lesbians who are willing to talk about what it is to them to be a lesbian and ask them. Just don't be condescending.  You'll probably have a better understanding of their perspective of attraction then.  Then you don't have to make the same boring comments that everyone  makes when topics like this emerge. I'm not a part of the gay community, but I'm friends with quite a few that are..so when I see a phenomenon I don't understand, I ask about it and they explain it to me.

what and get some answer that is a lie and only designed to justify their abnormal desires.A woman who says she is a lesbian but only is attracted to butch type women has issues and really is a woman who wants a man but has been told and came to believe she is a lesbian.

What's wrong with fulfilling abnormal desires? I'd find the world to be incredibly boring if everyone fit so neatly into all your little boxes...


not my box. nothing is right with abnormal.  odd, kinky, unique, different, fun desires are fine.
 
2013-02-11 01:10:42 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Selena Luna: Waldo Pepper: gulogulo: Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.

Here's an idea: go find some lesbians who are willing to talk about what it is to them to be a lesbian and ask them. Just don't be condescending.  You'll probably have a better understanding of their perspective of attraction then.  Then you don't have to make the same boring comments that everyone  makes when topics like this emerge. I'm not a part of the gay community, but I'm friends with quite a few that are..so when I see a phenomenon I don't understand, I ask about it and they explain it to me.

what and get some answer that is a lie and only designed to justify their abnormal desires.A woman who says she is a lesbian but only is attracted to butch type women has issues and really is a woman who wants a man but has been told and came to believe she is a lesbian.

I see. So your issue is that you don't believe that people can be naturally lesbian, or that all lesbians must be girly girls, attracted to other girly girls. This is in spite of the fact that many men are attracted to women who are not girly at all. Does that make them secretly gay? Or is it possible at all that people are attracted to other people for reasons aside from the way they look and that people generally dress however they feel the most comfortable (business suits aside)?

i stand by what I said..


Heh. Translation: You curbed stomped me and  I got nothin'.
/Go crawl back in your cave, asshole.
 
2013-02-11 01:48:52 PM  

hubiestubert: Chinchillazilla: How can you even do that on accident? I could Google "wedding kiss" and find you hundreds of thousands of stock photos of heterosexual couples kissing in like thirty seconds.

I hope the staffer who popped that up got a good chortle before being escorted to the door incinerator.


More likely.
 
2013-02-11 04:07:57 PM  

PsiChick: quatchi: ariseatex: winterbraid: PsiChick: Though it may end up on FSTDT soon...

FSTDT?

*google*

well, there goes my evening.

How did I not know about that site until now?

Me and all. Knew about Bad Astromony, Right Wing Watch and the Skeptic's Annotated Bible but FSTDT is a new one for me.

Good eye. Ta.

Thanks! :) I try to avoid it, too much and I get crazy depressed, but it's like chocolate. You just can't stay away.

beta_plus: Well, you're now farkied as "Damn, this guy thinks he's a beta".

Don't feel too complimented, I'm using the term I learned from fanfiction pron.

Hope your enjoy your cats.

/at least I'm honest about where I am
//best of luck in your case

You know, I can have sex pretty much whenever I want. Sex with people who  don't expect me to conform to a personality quiz made up by someone with no understanding of science.

Somehow, I don't see an embittered Omega doing anywhere near as well...

/Make sure you know a clinic that provides STD checks.


And I am now lost in TSTDT.  Damn you!
 
2013-02-11 06:02:31 PM  

Jackpot777: I honestly think Conservatives have no gaydar. Zero. They think Marcus Bachmann is as straight as an arrow, so there's that.

Their gaydar is so non-existent, many of them are walking around, living a life that's a cross of The Adventures of Priscilla  Queen Of The Desert and The Sixth Sense. We see queer people, but many of them don't even know they're gay.

[i301.photobucket.com image 519x700]

Republican version of a straight flush.

/NNTAWWT...


Poker hands, I think you need to brush up on them....  A-K-10-7-5 is not a straight
 
2013-02-11 06:08:17 PM  

Jackpot777: vygramul: Jackpot777: Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.

I'm straight, but women with this kind of short haircut?

[www.hairfinder.com image 299x400]

Hubba hubba. Must be the exposed neck and earlobes or something. All I know is: pretty women, nice. Pretty women with short hair, super nice.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 317x460]

[static.betazeta.com image 376x490]

I can fap to that.

/I'll be in my bunk.


That's not saying much, you could fap to the crack of dawn
 
2013-02-11 06:21:19 PM  

g4lt: Jackpot777: I honestly think Conservatives have no gaydar. Zero. They think Marcus Bachmann is as straight as an arrow, so there's that.

Their gaydar is so non-existent, many of them are walking around, living a life that's a cross of The Adventures of Priscilla  Queen Of The Desert and The Sixth Sense. We see queer people, but many of them don't even know they're gay.

[i301.photobucket.com image 519x700]

Republican version of a straight flush.

/NNTAWWT...

Poker hands, I think you need to brush up on them....  A-K-10-7-5 is not a straight


Pretty sure you missed the joke there...
 
2013-02-11 09:05:22 PM  

sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS


Answered yr own question OR WHATEVER. As in WHATEVER THE fark THEY WANT TO DO. Trying not to be a dick here, and haven't read all comments, but seriously?? There's no imposition, there's just these people doing what the fark they want to do.

Oh, and  BPipaS clinging desperately to his (I assume) asshat rationalization of bigotry.
 
2013-02-11 09:14:38 PM  

Selena Luna: demaL-demaL-yeH: Selena Luna: Waldo Pepper: gulogulo: Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.

Here's an idea: go find some lesbians who are willing to talk about what it is to them to be a lesbian and ask them. Just don't be condescending.  You'll probably have a better understanding of their perspective of attraction then.  Then you don't have to make the same boring comments that everyone  makes when topics like this emerge. I'm not a part of the gay community, but I'm friends with quite a few that are..so when I see a phenomenon I don't understand, I ask about it and they explain it to me.

what and get some answer that is a lie and only designed to justify their abnormal desires.A woman who says she is a lesbian but only is attracted to butch type women has issues and really is a woman who wants a man but has been told and came to believe she is a lesbian.

I see. So your issue is that you don't believe that people can be naturally lesbian, or that all lesbians must be girly girls, attracted to other girly girls. This is in spite of the fact that many men are attracted to women who are not girly at all. Does that make them secretly gay? Or is it possible at all that people are attracted to other people for reasons aside from the way they look and that people generally dress however they feel the most comfortable (business suits aside)?

Please don't feed it.

/Tell Lester I said, "Yá'át'ééh ."

I know five Lesters, and there are 120,000 people on this rez, but if I see your particular Lester, I will certainly tell him hello.


Oh, sorry: Wildcat who went to Hahvahd afterward. Great storyteller.

/Tell him Anil the dot Indian says "Hi." too.
 
2013-02-11 09:27:17 PM  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

Answered yr own question OR WHATEVER. As in WHATEVER THE fark THEY WANT TO DO. Trying not to be a dick here, and haven't read all comments, but seriously?? There's no imposition, there's just these people doing what the fark they want to do.

Oh, and  BPipaS clinging desperately to his (I assume) asshat rationalization of bigotry.


No Worries... By the time you get through the thread, you'll realize you are the only one that read that far before responding...
 
2013-02-11 09:28:56 PM  

beta_plus: Assuming that you are not gay (NTTAWWT), yeah, actually you do.

Happiness is a reward given to you by your genetics for doing things that would have furthered your survival and you genes survival for millions of years.  If you deny your hunter-gatherer roots, you are doomed to be unhappy.

Now, does that mean that a woman should be barefoot and pregnant cooking in the kitchen?  No.  But she and her husband had better do the basic things that keep each other happy on an instinctual level when possible.  If you're a guy, be the manly man that makes your wife happy.  Keep in mind that one of the main things that keeps her happy is you standing up to the challenges she will instinctually give you to test that you are manly.  This used to be called flirting.

Ladies, be feminine around the man you care about.  Make him feel welcomed and desired.  Obviously, test him a bit but have the good sense to do it at the right times.  Kind of like how he shouldn't demand sex from you at the wrong times.  Basically, be sweet and kind if he has proven to be worthy of it.  Don't be a biatch unless it is truly necessary.


You are so so right. One of the biggest challenges I have to face from the Mrs. is when she gets her dom streak up, straps me down to the bed, puts the choker around my neck and makes me beg her to be gentle while plowing my ass with the *big* dildo. And I'm not even kidding dumbass. What is more "manly" than two men farking? That's about as goddamn manly as it gets. And when playtime gets a little rough, I farking man up, take it, and we both cum and fark til it hurts.

/Enjoy the missionary postion.
//Loser
///3
 
2013-02-11 09:47:19 PM  

Waldo Pepper: not my box.


Nobody's asking you to gay marry them. So what's the problem?
 
2013-02-11 09:59:50 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Selena Luna: demaL-demaL-yeH: Selena Luna: Waldo Pepper: gulogulo: Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.

Here's an idea: go find some lesbians who are willing to talk about what it is to them to be a lesbian and ask them. Just don't be condescending.  You'll probably have a better understanding of their perspective of attraction then.  Then you don't have to make the same boring comments that everyone  makes when topics like this emerge. I'm not a part of the gay community, but I'm friends with quite a few that are..so when I see a phenomenon I don't understand, I ask about it and they explain it to me.

what and get some answer that is a lie and only designed to justify their abnormal desires.A woman who says she is a lesbian but only is attracted to butch type women has issues and really is a woman who wants a man but has been told and came to believe she is a lesbian.

I see. So your issue is that you don't believe that people can be naturally lesbian, or that all lesbians must be girly girls, attracted to other girly girls. This is in spite of the fact that many men are attracted to women who are not girly at all. Does that make them secretly gay? Or is it possible at all that people are attracted to other people for reasons aside from the way they look and that people generally dress however they feel the most comfortable (business suits aside)?

Please don't feed it.

/Tell Lester I said, "Yá'át'ééh ."

I know five Lesters, and there are 120,000 people on this rez, but if I see your particular Lester, I will certainly tell him hello.

Oh, sorry: Wildcat who went to Hahvahd afterward. Great storyteller.

/Tell him Anil the dot Indian says "Hi." too.


Okay, so he's from Chinle. That narrows it down somewhat.
 
2013-02-11 10:12:38 PM  

sno man: Serious Post on Serious Thread: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

Answered yr own question OR WHATEVER. As in WHATEVER THE fark THEY WANT TO DO. Trying not to be a dick here, and haven't read all comments, but seriously?? There's no imposition, there's just these people doing what the fark they want to do.

Oh, and  BPipaS clinging desperately to his (I assume) asshat rationalization of bigotry.

No Worries... By the time you get through the thread, you'll realize you are the only one that read that far before responding...


Actually, everyone read that far and everyone called you out on your arrogant BS.
 
2013-02-11 10:18:15 PM  

eddiesocket: sno man: Serious Post on Serious Thread: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

Answered yr own question OR WHATEVER. As in WHATEVER THE fark THEY WANT TO DO. Trying not to be a dick here, and haven't read all comments, but seriously?? There's no imposition, there's just these people doing what the fark they want to do.

Oh, and  BPipaS clinging desperately to his (I assume) asshat rationalization of bigotry.

No Worries... By the time you get through the thread, you'll realize you are the only one that read that far before responding...

Actually, everyone read that far and everyone called you out on your arrogant BS.


Actually you were the only one that had an actual problem, so is it my writing skill, or your reading skill?
 
2013-02-11 10:20:08 PM  

sno man: Empty Matchbook: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

And NOW you're falling DEEPER into gender roles by agreeing that a lesbian wedding should involve two women in a dress.

It's the traditional wedding's roles (of a man and a woman) I'm questioning why they feel a need to emulate, but whatever.


Don't "but whatever" it, let's have a conversation like real people! I think I probably misunderstood your initial point.

I'll even get all pretentious and ACTUALLY use the phrase: "To quote the Bard," Shallow, briefly come instance!
 
2013-02-11 10:21:31 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Selena Luna: Waldo Pepper: gulogulo: Waldo Pepper: I'll never understand how a woman says she doesn't like men and is a lesbian and yet her girlfriend dresses and acts like a man. makes no sense.

Here's an idea: go find some lesbians who are willing to talk about what it is to them to be a lesbian and ask them. Just don't be condescending.  You'll probably have a better understanding of their perspective of attraction then.  Then you don't have to make the same boring comments that everyone  makes when topics like this emerge. I'm not a part of the gay community, but I'm friends with quite a few that are..so when I see a phenomenon I don't understand, I ask about it and they explain it to me.

what and get some answer that is a lie and only designed to justify their abnormal desires.A woman who says she is a lesbian but only is attracted to butch type women has issues and really is a woman who wants a man but has been told and came to believe she is a lesbian.

I see. So your issue is that you don't believe that people can be naturally lesbian, or that all lesbians must be girly girls, attracted to other girly girls. This is in spite of the fact that many men are attracted to women who are not girly at all. Does that make them secretly gay? Or is it possible at all that people are attracted to other people for reasons aside from the way they look and that people generally dress however they feel the most comfortable (business suits aside)?

i stand by what I said..


Well, at least you are dedicated to your ignorance, stupidity and horribly trite worldview. It's cute you think gender roles were, are or will be as static as some Leave it to Beaver episode you recall from your youth. People have always, and always will, do freaky fun shiat that would blow your little boxed in pent up mind.

I mean, I can't even begin to explain to you how stupid you sound when you present some non-fluid binary representation of sexuality and actually think you are making any kind of sense to anyone who isn't irretrievably scared of sex.
 
2013-02-11 10:24:03 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: What we need is some good old-fashioned family values to be happy:


[butihatetofu.files.wordpress.com image 402x554]

/Real Ad from back in the day.


That is farking hot
 
2013-02-11 10:25:56 PM  

Empty Matchbook: sno man: Empty Matchbook: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

And NOW you're falling DEEPER into gender roles by agreeing that a lesbian wedding should involve two women in a dress.

It's the traditional wedding's roles (of a man and a woman) I'm questioning why they feel a need to emulate, but whatever.

Don't "but whatever" it, let's have a conversation like real people! I think I probably misunderstood your initial point.

I'll even get all pretentious and ACTUALLY use the phrase: "To quote the Bard," Shallow, briefly come instance!


But no let's have a conversation about the whatever...
 
2013-02-11 10:31:20 PM  

sno man: It's the traditional wedding's roles (of a man and a woman) I'm questioning why they feel a need to emulate,


There's that arrogant BS again!  There it is!  How adorable.

A) Why do you "question" what strangers want to wear on their wedding day?
B) Why do you feel they are accountable to you?
C) Why do you believe they "feel the need" to emulate anything at all? Why is it impossible for you to fathom that woman likes suits and the other likes dresses?
 
2013-02-11 10:44:30 PM  

eddiesocket: sno man: It's the traditional wedding's roles (of a man and a woman) I'm questioning why they feel a need to emulate,

There's that arrogant BS again!  There it is!  How adorable.

A) Why do you "question" what strangers want to wear on their wedding day?
B) Why do you feel they are accountable to you?
C) Why do you believe they "feel the need" to emulate anything at all? Why is it impossible for you to fathom that woman likes suits and the other likes dresses?


Slow down sunshine,  No one is accountable to me but me.  I know many lesbians and even more gay guys, and none of either I know have any interest in playing to "traditional" roles in any part of their lives. Hell my wife and I bend many traditional roles... I get that some might WANT to, I just don't get why.
 
2013-02-11 10:50:00 PM  

sno man: none of either I know have any interest in playing to "traditional" roles in * any part of their lives


*sorry, add nearly..  most are just fine dressing to their traditional gender standard.
 
2013-02-11 10:58:12 PM  
Have the strangest boner after looking at that pic.
 
2013-02-11 11:14:24 PM  

sno man: sno man: none of either I know have any interest in playing to "traditional" roles in * any part of their lives

*sorry, add nearly..  most are just fine dressing to their traditional gender standard.


Unlike the woman in this pic, who you question.
Now I'm really confused. What should these women be wearing, so as not to conform to "traditional" roles?  How can they gain your approval?
 
2013-02-11 11:31:42 PM  

eddiesocket: sno man: sno man: none of either I know have any interest in playing to "traditional" roles in * any part of their lives

*sorry, add nearly..  most are just fine dressing to their traditional gender standard.

Unlike the woman in this pic, who you question.
Now I'm really confused. What should these women be wearing, so as not to conform to "traditional" roles?  How can they gain your approval?


What is your hard on with my approval?  I covered that already too. Seriously, you're either deliberately obtuse or have poor reading skills or are a sub lost without a dom maybe. Can't help you on the last one....  Actually can't help you with any of those....
 
2013-02-12 01:26:41 AM  

sno man: Empty Matchbook: sno man: Empty Matchbook: sno man: Because People in power are Stupid: I find that picture quite appropriate. That same sex couple is falling into gender role stereotypes because that makes sense.

Actually you might be on to something there...  Why not just both be an a dress (for innies), or both in a suit (for outies) or whatever. Why go to the trouble of imposing gender roles where they don't actually apply?  If not for some measure toward conformity.

/someone hold me, I  just agreed with BPipaS

And NOW you're falling DEEPER into gender roles by agreeing that a lesbian wedding should involve two women in a dress.

It's the traditional wedding's roles (of a man and a woman) I'm questioning why they feel a need to emulate, but whatever.

Don't "but whatever" it, let's have a conversation like real people! I think I probably misunderstood your initial point.

I'll even get all pretentious and ACTUALLY use the phrase: "To quote the Bard," Shallow, briefly come instance!

But no let's have a conversation about the whatever...


Well the whatever IS the whatever, but there's also the kajigger and that other bit, isn't there?
 
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