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2013-02-09 01:07:19 PM

awfulperson: Malmsteen is horrible. So what that he locked himself in his bedroom for four hours a day and did speed drills--I am sure we could eventually train a monkey to do that.

Meandering arpeggios with a WAH-WAH-WAHHHHH at the end peppered by the clickety-clack of his jewel-encrusted hooker bracelets ≠ music.

P.S. I'll just leave this as I go... MALMSTEEN SHREDS


I think this one defines Malmsteen a little better:
Guitar Lesson
 
2013-02-09 01:07:35 PM

Midnight Rambler: qsblues: Although he is most famous for making the talk box popular, Joe Walsh taught him how to use it, gave him his 1st talk box and a '59 Les Paul Standard to boot, and Frampton never gave Walsh any kind of props for it whatsoever.

What a crappy thing to do. Joe Walsh rocks at life. And if the author here thinks that "guitar face" contributes to douchery, I could watch Joe's guitar face all day.

Here's Joe playing a great, laid-back solo with Daryl Hall on "Live From Daryl's House".


Thanks! I liked that. Darryl got a lot of soul for a white boy
 
2013-02-09 01:12:28 PM
 
2013-02-09 01:29:25 PM

Onkel Buck: Midnight Rambler: qsblues: Although he is most famous for making the talk box popular, Joe Walsh taught him how to use it, gave him his 1st talk box and a '59 Les Paul Standard to boot, and Frampton never gave Walsh any kind of props for it whatsoever.

What a crappy thing to do. Joe Walsh rocks at life. And if the author here thinks that "guitar face" contributes to douchery, I could watch Joe's guitar face all day.

Here's Joe playing a great, laid-back solo with Daryl Hall on "Live From Daryl's House".

Thanks! I liked that. Darryl got a lot of soul for a white boy


Live from Darryl's House is one of the best things on the EweTubercles. Hall comes across as pretty douchey sometimes, like the time he called someone out for stealing from him during the show:

'If we do it this way, people will realize it sounds just like a song I wrote 25 years ago'.
 
2013-02-09 01:37:11 PM
Y'know, bassists are always complaining that guitarists get all the attention and are out front with their cawks hanging out doing the whole widdlie widdlie woo thing.  Well, now's your chance to shine.  How about a list of Douchy Bass Players?  Let's get started:

Billy Sheehan
Jeff Berlin
Sid Vicious
Sting
Paul McCartney
Jaco Pastorious

discuss ...
 
2013-02-09 01:38:27 PM

MFAWG: Onkel Buck: Midnight Rambler: qsblues: Although he is most famous for making the talk box popular, Joe Walsh taught him how to use it, gave him his 1st talk box and a '59 Les Paul Standard to boot, and Frampton never gave Walsh any kind of props for it whatsoever.

What a crappy thing to do. Joe Walsh rocks at life. And if the author here thinks that "guitar face" contributes to douchery, I could watch Joe's guitar face all day.

Here's Joe playing a great, laid-back solo with Daryl Hall on "Live From Daryl's House".

Thanks! I liked that. Darryl got a lot of soul for a white boy

Live from Darryl's House is one of the best things on the EweTubercles. Hall comes across as pretty douchey sometimes, like the time he called someone out for stealing from him during the show:

'If we do it this way, people will realize it sounds just like a song I wrote 25 years ago'.


Ha! I hadn't heard that zinger. I agree Daryl can come across as kind of elitist at times, and I also agree that Live From Daryl's House is awesome. Some amazing performances there. Another favorite is Grace Potter doing "Paris (Ooh La La)".
 
2013-02-09 01:39:10 PM
congratulations nate jackson, you are an abject failure by the first 2 entries! i nearly stopped reading when i saw this in the very first one regarding john mayer,'...dude is an undeniably accomplished jazz shredder. '  say what? most people that write about music know nothing about music, so i gave him the benefit of the doubt. then in the next one we get, regarding yngwie malmsteen,'This guy was the most technically accomplished guitarist to come out of the 80s. Period. '  can failure like this even be measured conventionally?
 
2013-02-09 01:41:28 PM
That word... I do not think it means what you think it means...
 
2013-02-09 01:47:01 PM
I would start a list of the douchiest vocalists of all time, but there just ain't enough internet to do that.
 
2013-02-09 01:51:35 PM

Ryker's Peninsula: Although he's one of my all time faves, I think Ritchie Blackmore pretty much invented the concept of Guitar Douche.


I think everyone that ever worked with him would agree with you. Even the nicest guy in metal, Ronnie James Dio, who liked everybody(except for maybe Vivian Campbell; speaking of douchey) said that Blackmore "had issues."
 
2013-02-09 01:52:04 PM
also, none of you retards(or is it just one of you? im not scrolling back up) have listed a single example of frank being douchey. failure always runs high in guitar threads, so i guess business as usual here.
 
2013-02-09 01:52:31 PM

Midnight Rambler: MFAWG: Onkel Buck: Midnight Rambler: qsblues: Although he is most famous for making the talk box popular, Joe Walsh taught him how to use it, gave him his 1st talk box and a '59 Les Paul Standard to boot, and Frampton never gave Walsh any kind of props for it whatsoever.

What a crappy thing to do. Joe Walsh rocks at life. And if the author here thinks that "guitar face" contributes to douchery, I could watch Joe's guitar face all day.

Here's Joe playing a great, laid-back solo with Daryl Hall on "Live From Daryl's House".

Thanks! I liked that. Darryl got a lot of soul for a white boy

Live from Darryl's House is one of the best things on the EweTubercles. Hall comes across as pretty douchey sometimes, like the time he called someone out for stealing from him during the show:

'If we do it this way, people will realize it sounds just like a song I wrote 25 years ago'.

Ha! I hadn't heard that zinger. I agree Daryl can come across as kind of elitist at times, and I also agree that Live From Daryl's House is awesome. Some amazing performances there. Another favorite is Grace Potter doing "Paris (Ooh La La)".


Yah, that was a good one. Pat Monahan of  Train was pretty good. They decide Monahan is going to sing the first verse, the band kicks off and Darryl takes off while  Monahan sits there  with a 'WTF?' expression on his face.

'That's right, I'm Darryl beeping Hall'.

Another one was TBone Wolk talking to one of the guests about how they're going to do the guitar parts, and slowly realizing the guy has NO idea what he's talking about.
 
2013-02-09 02:06:23 PM

MFAWG: TBone Wolk talking to one of the guests about how they're going to do the guitar parts, and slowly realizing the guy has NO idea what he's talking about.


Oh, now that I gotta check out. TBone was a great one.
 
2013-02-09 02:07:01 PM

mahavishnunj: also, none of you retards(or is it just one of you? im not scrolling back up) have listed a single example of frank being douchey. failure always runs high in guitar threads, so i guess business as usual here.


does failure to read posts before you start typing count?  Well then ... carry on ... business as usual. :P
 
2013-02-09 02:15:09 PM
media.irishcentral.com
You people forgot this asshole...
 
2013-02-09 02:15:19 PM

qsblues: mahavishnunj: also, none of you retards(or is it just one of you? im not scrolling back up) have listed a single example of frank being douchey. failure always runs high in guitar threads, so i guess business as usual here.

does failure to read posts before you start typing count?  Well then ... carry on ... business as usual. :P


i read them all. didnt see a single one.
 
2013-02-09 02:17:04 PM

Midnight Rambler: MFAWG: TBone Wolk talking to one of the guests about how they're going to do the guitar parts, and slowly realizing the guy has NO idea what he's talking about.

Oh, now that I gotta check out. TBone was a great one.


He replaced GE Smith in Hall and Oates, IIRC?
 
2013-02-09 02:20:10 PM
List fails without Fripp.  Fripp has always been a douche, but extremely great talent is justified in being that way.  Fripp used to insult the audience if they clapped too loud or didn't pay attention enough.  He's mellowed out some.  I always loved the fact that he insisted playing sitting down.  He's a purist, and it shows.
 
2013-02-09 02:25:11 PM

MFAWG: Midnight Rambler: MFAWG: TBone Wolk talking to one of the guests about how they're going to do the guitar parts, and slowly realizing the guy has NO idea what he's talking about.

Oh, now that I gotta check out. TBone was a great one.

He replaced GE Smith in Hall and Oates, IIRC?


Had to check Wiki... they played together in Hall & Oates. Smith on lead and T-Bone on bass.
 
2013-02-09 02:36:51 PM

qsblues: Y'know, bassists are always complaining that guitarists get all the attention and are out front with their cawks hanging out doing the whole widdlie widdlie woo thing.  Well, now's your chance to shine.  How about a list of Douchy Bass Players?  Let's get started:

Billy Sheehan
Jeff Berlin
Sid Vicious
Sting
Paul McCartney
Jaco Pastorious

discuss ...



Pete Wentz
 
2013-02-09 02:46:59 PM

Close2TheEdge: List fails without Fripp.  Fripp has always been a douche, but extremely great talent is justified in being that way.  Fripp used to insult the audience if they clapped too loud or didn't pay attention enough.  He's mellowed out some.  I always loved the fact that he insisted playing sitting down.  He's a purist, and it shows.


"Our sincerist apologies to those whose conversations we're interrupting."  Love it.

On the Thrak tour, Fripp used to sit among the effects racks under minimal stage lighting, believing that he was better heard than seen.  He got a fan letter complaining that he wasn't visible to the audience, so he sent the writer a check for one-sixth of the ticket price (as Fripp was one-sixth of the band).

A purist, a master troll, and, in many ways, an anachronism.
 
2013-02-09 02:48:50 PM

mahavishnunj: qsblues: mahavishnunj: also, none of you retards(or is it just one of you? im not scrolling back up) have listed a single example of frank being douchey. failure always runs high in guitar threads, so i guess business as usual here.

does failure to read posts before you start typing count?  Well then ... carry on ... business as usual. :P

i read them all. didnt see a single one.


you've obviously missed this part, which is from this very thread:


 Frank would stay in separate, suite level hotel rooms while the band stayed in fleabag motels, would fire band members for getting high (in the 60's & 70's ... REALLY?) file lawsuits against people he thought were trying to make more money than he was, berate band members on and off stage, regularly cheated on his wife, was an absentee father because touring was more important than raising his kids, even after he didn't need the money ... the list goes on and on.  Read "Zappa" by Barry Miles.  Much more informative and objective than "The Real Frank Zappa Book".  He really does tell the truth about what the man was really like.

Fantastic musician and composer, a true definition of the word, "genius", unparalleled in his art, one of the GOAT's.  But like Michael Jordan, Joe Montana, Buddy Rich and Miles Davis, a colossal dickbag of a human being on just about every level.
 
2013-02-09 02:55:31 PM
I'm sorry but Billy Squier takes positions 1-9 and ties for 10th.

csb time

Concert in the 80s.  Saga opens for Billy.  Saga played a decent show and did some covers that weren't on their album and sounded much better than anything on their album.  Even back then over production and a need to sound like everybody else was ruining good bands.

Then it was Billy's turn.  The band played the first song then went through the whole "Great to see you Jacksonville" etc routine.  Midway through the second song Billy waved the band to stop playing and broke out into a solo.  It was ok but it's not like he's a great guitar player.  Then they played their third song and midway through Billy again waved the band silent, introduced each of the members giving them a few seconds of solo play, and then broke into another guitar solo himself.  A lot of the stuff from the first solo was repeated and nothing good was added.  Then came the fourth song and they played all the way through.  Whew, he's done with solos.

Not    So   Fast.

Fifth song Billy again waves the band silent (I'm surprised anybody stayed in this band.  I guess money and drugs can make you do strange things) and he broke into another solo.   At this point the crowd started chanting "Saga   Saga   Saga"  It got louder and louder as it spread and finally Billy boy realized what was going on.  He stopped playing and stomped (all 5'6" of intimidating girly man ) up to the microphone .  He shouted into the mike "Stop that shiat right now or this concert is over!!"  And unfortunately the crowd quieted down.   The band went back to playing but Billy didn't try any more solos.
 
2013-02-09 03:01:04 PM

Death Whisper: You people forgot this asshole...


Mr. Bean in a Beatle wig...?
 
2013-02-09 03:02:08 PM

qsblues: mahavishnunj: qsblues: mahavishnunj: also, none of you retards(or is it just one of you? im not scrolling back up) have listed a single example of frank being douchey. failure always runs high in guitar threads, so i guess business as usual here.

does failure to read posts before you start typing count?  Well then ... carry on ... business as usual. :P

i read them all. didnt see a single one.

you've obviously missed this part, which is from this very thread:


 Frank would stay in separate, suite level hotel rooms while the band stayed in fleabag motels, would fire band members for getting high (in the 60's & 70's ... REALLY?) file lawsuits against people he thought were trying to make more money than he was, berate band members on and off stage, regularly cheated on his wife, was an absentee father because touring was more important than raising his kids, even after he didn't need the money ... the list goes on and on.  Read "Zappa" by Barry Miles.  Much more informative and objective than "The Real Frank Zappa Book".  He really does tell the truth about what the man was really like.

Fantastic musician and composer, a true definition of the word, "genius", unparalleled in his art, one of the GOAT's.  But like Michael Jordan, Joe Montana, Buddy Rich and Miles Davis, a colossal dickbag of a human being on just about every level.


no, i saw it. i just didnt think you would be retarded enough to lap up hearsay and anecdotal evidence like that as gospel. he stayed in nicer rooms than his band. wow, what a "colossal dickbag"! he only wrote 100% of the music and handled all the business shiat. which of these band members were fired for getting high? you think maybe it interfered with their performance and THATS why they got fired? i feel like im getting trolled at this point. regularly cheated on his wife, im all for that.  he was a rock star and she is a terrible coont. everything else you listed is just as dumb if not more.
 
2013-02-09 03:02:53 PM
No Carlos Santana??????
 
2013-02-09 03:08:32 PM

1derful: The Edge tops every douche on this list, except maybe John Mayer.


While everybody on that list is an amazing douche nozzle, at least they're pretty good at their instrument.


The Edge has a 14 to 1 ratio of effects to actual notes he plays, and more annoyingly, he named himself "The Edge" to  play in an adult contemporary band.


I'm a not particularly gifted bass player and given enough delay and echo pedals, and my trusty E-Bow, even I can impersonate The Edge on guitar. Hell, most of U2's songs seem the same to me.
 
2013-02-09 03:13:16 PM

qsblues: There are only two bands who are officially "licensed" to play his music live: Zappa Plays Zappa (Dweezil's band, so of course he would get the nod) and Project Object, which is lead by Ray White and Ike Willis.


This is incorrect.  Project/Object is Andre Cholmondeley's band; Ray and Ike are just two of the most prominent among many Zappa band alumni to have toured with and tutored the group.

And they've never had permission from the Zappa Family Trust to do what they do -- not that they need to, since as most of Frank's music was licensed through ASCAP and BMI, it's covered by rock venues' blanket performance agreements and no special permission is needed for a Zappa tribute band to perform live -- and never will, because their continued ability to draw 30 people to a cramped sports bar in Long Branch, NJ seems to be seen as a threat to Dweezil's monopoly on his father's music.
 
2013-02-09 03:15:52 PM
True story about country singer douchery.....Late 70's at the Golden Nugget in Vegas.. Larry Gatlin and The Gatlin Brothers are at the top of the c/w charts...They are playing the showroom to a SRO crowd and are about to open the show..(Larry,of course,has just snorted up Peru)...As the house lights go down,the crowd can barely contain themselves...The curtains go up and the lights blaze as the Gatlins start singing..."All the gold..in California"...The crowd goes batshiat..People jump to their feet as the applause and cheering greets them......Larry immediately stops singing and starts waving his arms like a madman to stop the band...and its a trainwreck stop.  He just stands there,arms folded, as the ovation starts to die down..It musta took 3 minutes before the last person stopped clapping....It is now dead silent...Larry now comes back to his mike and says...."People..what's wrong with y'all???"  "The Gatlins are number one because of our singing...Y'all are in here tonight to hear us sing"...."Now how the hell can anybody hear a damn thing with y'all yelling like that??" " now do you wanna scream or do you wanna hear us sing??"  DEAD SILENCE.....and with he restarts the song and show to a stunned and subdued crowd that never recovered a fraction of their energy...
 
2013-02-09 03:20:36 PM

Uncle Pooky: mercator_psi: Okay, since no one has mentioned him in this thread:

Peter farking Frampton.

I went to see Bowie's "Glass Spider" tour at Anaheim Stadium back in 1988 or '89 (I think), and for some reason Dave thought it was a great idea to let the Frampster have a 2-minute guitar solo in every farking song they played.

Framp completely ruined that performance. Total farking wanker.

Careful, bro. Using nicknames like "the Frampster" kinda swings you towards the douche side yourself.


How about "Menstrual Framps"? "Framppa" or "Frampon"?
 
2013-02-09 03:29:48 PM

AcesFull: True story about country singer douchery.....Late 70's at the Golden Nugget in Vegas.. Larry Gatlin and The Gatlin Brothers are at the top of the c/w charts...They are playing the showroom to a SRO crowd and are about to open the show..(Larry,of course,has just snorted up Peru)...As the house lights go down,the crowd can barely contain themselves...The curtains go up and the lights blaze as the Gatlins start singing..."All the gold..in California"...The crowd goes batshiat..People jump to their feet as the applause and cheering greets them......Larry immediately stops singing and starts waving his arms like a madman to stop the band...and its a trainwreck stop.  He just stands there,arms folded, as the ovation starts to die down..It musta took 3 minutes before the last person stopped clapping....It is now dead silent...Larry now comes back to his mike and says...."People..what's wrong with y'all???"  "The Gatlins are number one because of our singing...Y'all are in here tonight to hear us sing"...."Now how the hell can anybody hear a damn thing with y'all yelling like that??" " now do you wanna scream or do you wanna hear us sing??"  DEAD SILENCE.....and with he restarts the song and show to a stunned and subdued crowd that never recovered a fraction of their energy...


This! I saw exactly this myself. I was really young (in high school at most) and hadn't been to too many concerts but I was dumbfounded nonetheless.

I had completely forgotten about it - good call.
 
2013-02-09 03:35:02 PM

mahavishnunj: qsblues: mahavishnunj: qsblues: mahavishnunj: also, none of you retards(or is it just one of you? im not scrolling back up) have listed a single example of frank being douchey. failure always runs high in guitar threads, so i guess business as usual here.

does failure to read posts before you start typing count?  Well then ... carry on ... business as usual. :P

i read them all. didnt see a single one.

you've obviously missed this part, which is from this very thread:


 Frank would stay in separate, suite level hotel rooms while the band stayed in fleabag motels, would fire band members for getting high (in the 60's & 70's ... REALLY?) file lawsuits against people he thought were trying to make more money than he was, berate band members on and off stage, regularly cheated on his wife, was an absentee father because touring was more important than raising his kids, even after he didn't need the money ... the list goes on and on.  Read "Zappa" by Barry Miles.  Much more informative and objective than "The Real Frank Zappa Book".  He really does tell the truth about what the man was really like.

Fantastic musician and composer, a true definition of the word, "genius", unparalleled in his art, one of the GOAT's.  But like Michael Jordan, Joe Montana, Buddy Rich and Miles Davis, a colossal dickbag of a human being on just about every level.

no, i saw it. i just didnt think you would be retarded enough to lap up hearsay and anecdotal evidence like that as gospel. he stayed in nicer rooms than his band. wow, what a "colossal dickbag"! he only wrote 100% of the music and handled all the business shiat. which of these band members were fired for getting high? you think maybe it interfered with their performance and THATS why they got fired? i feel like im getting trolled at this point. regularly cheated on his wife, im all for that.  he was a rock star and she is a terrible coont. everything else you listed is just as dumb if not more.


what, are you pissed that you didn't get included on the list as well?  Lighten up.  Frank's dicketry is almost as well known as his musicianship.  I gave the man props for his unmistakeable talent, and cited him as one of my musical heroes, along with Miles Davis (douchebag) and Buddy Rich (douchebag).  Since he's dead and can't defend or refute anything, we rely upon journalists who have sat down and interviewed the guy.  Gospel?  Not hardly.  Better source than internet tough guy babble?  Probably.  Just going by authorized biographies released by a respected journalist.  Check out some of Barry Miles' work; he's no slouch in his profession.
 
2013-02-09 03:43:51 PM
Just once, I wanted to see someone punch G.E. Smith in the mouth. His smirking made me want to beat the family dog.
 
2013-02-09 03:50:28 PM

awfulperson: Malmsteen is horrible. So what that he locked himself in his bedroom for four hours a day and did speed drills--I am sure we could eventually train a monkey to do that.

Meandering arpeggios with a WAH-WAH-WAHHHHH at the end peppered by the clickety-clack of his jewel-encrusted hooker bracelets ≠ music.

P.S. I'll just leave this as I go... MALMSTEEN SHREDS


Oh, jesus on a stick, I had to stop watching that...I thought I was going to stroke out from laughter....the whole site is epic.
 
2013-02-09 03:50:28 PM

qsblues: (a)Frank's dicketry is almost as well known as his musicianship. I gave the man props for his unmistakeable talent, and cited him as one of my musical heroes, along with Miles Davis (douchebag) and Buddy Rich (douchebag). Since he's dead and can't defend or refute anything, (b)we rely upon journalists who have sat down and interviewed the guy.


(a)is it? i still havent seen one real example in here of him being a dick or a douche.

(b)actually im not going by that at all.  im going by the words of every single great musician who has ever been in his band. id be interested to see someone that actually played with him trash him, who ISNT a member of the grandmothers.
 
2013-02-09 03:57:41 PM

mahavishnunj: qsblues: (a)Frank's dicketry is almost as well known as his musicianship. I gave the man props for his unmistakeable talent, and cited him as one of my musical heroes, along with Miles Davis (douchebag) and Buddy Rich (douchebag). Since he's dead and can't defend or refute anything, (b)we rely upon journalists who have sat down and interviewed the guy.

(a)is it? i still havent seen one real example in here of him being a dick or a douche.

(b)actually im not going by that at all.  im going by the words of every single great musician who has ever been in his band. id be interested to see someone that actually played with him trash him, who ISNT a member of the grandmothers.

oppo


  The last nurse to see Buddy Rich alive..supposedly...was on her rounds at the hospital and stopped by Buddy's room....Nurse: Mr.Rich,are you alright?  Is anything bothering you?       Buddy: Yes. Country music.
 
2013-02-09 04:32:49 PM

nucular bum: Dead on for the tag, subby. This list fails without the Nuge.


I'd personally put him at #1, bump #1 down to #2, and kick Eddie Van Halen off the list completely. He's only on there because he's good and people are jealous.
 
2013-02-09 06:05:11 PM
The Village Voice calling anyone douchey is a bit like Kanye West teaching a class on how to blend in.
 
2013-02-09 06:23:49 PM

mahavishnunj: qsblues: (a)Frank's dicketry is almost as well known as his musicianship. I gave the man props for his unmistakeable talent, and cited him as one of my musical heroes, along with Miles Davis (douchebag) and Buddy Rich (douchebag). Since he's dead and can't defend or refute anything, (b)we rely upon journalists who have sat down and interviewed the guy.

(a)is it? i still havent seen one real example in here of him being a dick or a douche.

(b)actually im not going by that at all.  im going by the words of every single great musician who has ever been in his band. id be interested to see someone that actually played with him trash him, who ISNT a member of the grandmothers.


*blinks*

Ok sport.  You got me.  Apparently my standard for being a douche is too high, or low as the case may be.  Cheating on your wife, the mother of your children is ok because "he's a rock star".  Paying band members shiat wages when you can afford to pay them what they're worth passes muster.  Being supported by and making fun of the audience who pays to see your concerts is just peachy.  I'll let all that go.

Tina Turner showed up during the "Apostrophy/Overnight Sensation" recordings, and since nobody else could do it, sang the infamous break in "Montana".  Did it in one take.  Frank was prepared to pay her a handsome amount for nailing such a tough track.  Ike Turner takes him aside, and sez, "You pay her straight scale.  She just did her job, that's all she deserves."  Frank paid her 20 bucks and called it a day.

Now, I'm sure it's quite well known by now how much of a dickbag Ike Turner was, and how he not only exploited, but beat the ever loving snot out of Tina like it was his full time job.  She still showed up to the session with bruises that were still healing.  You'd think that anyone with half of a conscience would slip her a couple Benjamins and tell her to get the hell away from this asshole while she still could walk.  But not Frank.

So yeah, my "douchebag" meter might be a bit sensitive for manly men such as yourself who think that all these antics are okay.  Just because I read material from award winning authors doesn't mean jack shiat, either.  In MY book, Frank Zappa is a douche.  Nobody has to agree, just my opinion, but I've talked to Ike Willis and Ray White personally, and they both said, "Yeah, he was tough to work for, and was an asshole at times, but putting up with him was worth it."

Heresay and conjecture?  Take it as you want, but most geniuses ARE douchebags.
 
2013-02-09 06:43:02 PM
   scripted douchery but it always makes me laugh......"You traded the bluesmobile for a microphone!!??!!"
 
2013-02-09 06:45:03 PM
If excessive drug use can = douchiness, then Jerry Garcia tops them all.
 
2013-02-09 08:22:26 PM
List fails without Ted Nugent and Billy Corgan.
 
2013-02-09 08:53:04 PM
Take out Rick, add ted nuggent and the list is complete. I could add some honorable mentions, but I am not gonna hate on it for that.
 
2013-02-10 12:56:42 AM

dugitman: G.E. Smith farked over every performance he was ever in with excessive douchery, including this one with T-Bone and Clapton. The former SNL guitarist/musical director made me want to go Elvis on my TV every gotdammed time he mugged his way on screen. None so douchey


This.
I started having to look away when they flashed his incredibly lucky and incredibly un-talented self-satisfied idiot grinned-person on the tv.

/ugh
 
2013-02-10 02:19:43 AM

Onkel Buck: Midnight Rambler: qsblues: Although he is most famous for making the talk box popular, Joe Walsh taught him how to use it, gave him his 1st talk box and a '59 Les Paul Standard to boot, and Frampton never gave Walsh any kind of props for it whatsoever.

What a crappy thing to do. Joe Walsh rocks at life. And if the author here thinks that "guitar face" contributes to douchery, I could watch Joe's guitar face all day.

Here's Joe playing a great, laid-back solo with Daryl Hall on "Live From Daryl's House".

Thanks! I liked that. Darryl got a lot of soul for a white boy


Darryl has an amazing voice. Do a search for North Star (from Robert Fripp's album Exposure). His vocals are incredible.
 
2013-02-10 02:53:25 AM

Close2TheEdge: List fails without Fripp.  Fripp has always been a douche, but extremely great talent is justified in being that way.  Fripp used to insult the audience if they clapped too loud or didn't pay attention enough.  He's mellowed out some.  I always loved the fact that he insisted playing sitting down.  He's a purist, and it shows.


Fripp doesn't like to sign autographs or shake hands with strangers or have people taking pictures during performances. So what?

Do a search on Robert Fripp's Diary and you will see that Fripp shares more intimate details of his life than any other musician I can think of. He has kept this online diary for years. He talks about when he got up in the morning, what he had for breakfast, what book he is reading, how the Mynx is feeling, what's blooming in his garden, repairs that he needs to have done in his house, the weather, what friends have called, what music he is listening to, how his pet bunny is doing (seriously).

He lives on another plane of existence, we are lucky to have partial access to him anyway.

/Most Farkers don't even know who he is, so who cares?
 
2013-02-10 03:07:36 AM

AcesFull: mahavishnunj: qsblues: (a)Frank's dicketry is almost as well known as his musicianship. I gave the man props for his unmistakeable talent, and cited him as one of my musical heroes, along with Miles Davis (douchebag) and Buddy Rich (douchebag). Since he's dead and can't defend or refute anything, (b)we rely upon journalists who have sat down and interviewed the guy.

(a)is it? i still havent seen one real example in here of him being a dick or a douche.

(b)actually im not going by that at all.  im going by the words of every single great musician who has ever been in his band. id be interested to see someone that actually played with him trash him, who ISNT a member of the grandmothers.
oppo


  The last nurse to see Buddy Rich alive..supposedly...was on her rounds at the hospital and stopped by Buddy's room....Nurse: Mr.Rich,are you alright?  Is anything bothering you?       Buddy: Yes. Country music.


That's awesome. It reminds me of Oscar Wilde's alleged last words- either these curtains go or I do.

Funny SOB
 
2013-02-10 07:37:48 AM

Death Whisper: [media.irishcentral.com image 300x444]
You people forgot this asshole...


Does he technically count as a guitarist? He's primarily just an asshole.
 
2013-02-10 08:17:56 AM

Top Geezer: No Billy Corgan? Really?

/really???!!


Good point. There are so many. Nugent is another example. Anyone who wears greasepaint is another.

I'll be seeing Wishbone Ash in March. Some of the best rock guitar ever. Douche factor: zero.

Rock since 1980 has been 95% circus act 5% music. And it's not Barnum and Bailey either. More of a third-rate fleabag show run by alcoholic junkies who think that being "extreme" is entertaining.
 
2013-02-10 08:30:56 AM

Thunderboy: A lot of people defending Vai here, which is weird.  He's one of the phoniest people on the planet.

And bonus surprise guitar douche:  Marc Ribot.  That one broke my little musician heart.


Really, Ribot? Pray tell.

/Say it ain't so
//Love his work with Tom Waits
 
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