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(CBS Houston)   Superdome blackout caused by device installed to prevent a Superdome blackout   (houston.cbslocal.com) divider line 50
    More: Obvious, Superdome, Superdome blackout, Entergy, SMG, Candlestick Park, Baltimore Ravens, Roger Goodell  
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2013-02-08 01:28:35 PM
Bravo, subby, for resisting the siren lure of the Ironic tag.
 
2013-02-08 01:45:36 PM
Sounds like they needed a backup device to fail the failure and turn the power back on.

if (fail)
  !fail;
 
2013-02-08 02:07:14 PM
The FBI had ruled out cyberterrorism as a cause.

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-02-08 02:10:49 PM

BKITU: The FBI had ruled out cyberterrorism as a cause.

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We do not forgive.  We do not forget.  We like the 'Niners.
 
2013-02-08 02:16:11 PM
Well that's boring....I had hoped that it was caused by a nutria chewing on some wires.
 
2013-02-08 03:18:46 PM

The_Sponge: Well that's boring....I had hoped that it was caused by a nutria chewing on some wires.


I think the nutria chewing on some wires is the new system they've just installed to prevent the next blackout.
 
2013-02-08 03:20:40 PM
This is just what they want you to think.  This was just a rehearsal for when the mother ship arrives from Betelgeuse ready to launch the invasion.  2-3-13, NEVER FORGET!
 
2013-02-08 03:20:51 PM
Bull. It was caused by a Singaporean crime syndicate. Everything is. You know how this morning that jackass in Accounting left the breakroom with the last cup of coffee and you had to make a whole new pot? There was a prop bet being placed on Asian betting sites with 8:1 odds that YOU would be first person during the 10 o'clock hour to make fresh coffee at Acme Industries in Sioux City, IA, and he was paid off by...you guessed it...a Singaporean crime syndicate
 
2013-02-08 03:21:39 PM
So... doesn't this make sense?  A malfunction by something that directly deals with blackout protection seems to be much more intuitive than say, a hot dog vendor farking up the EV Charging Station when he got to work..
 
2013-02-08 03:26:32 PM
The failure of a device meant to protect the power supply to the Superdome caused the Super Bowl blackout, the stadium's power company said Friday as it took the blame for the outage that brought the game to a halt for more than a half-hour.

I'm still amazed the admittance of blame came this quick. Plus I'm laughing at Entergy's tweet like 10 minutes into the blackout saying it wasn't their fault: then again that's par for the course for a utility company.

/That's why I now have a whole-house backup generator.
//Had two separate 6-day power outages a couple of years ago.
 
2013-02-08 03:32:34 PM

mjohnson71: The failure of a device meant to protect the power supply to the Superdome caused the Super Bowl blackout, the stadium's power company said Friday as it took the blame for the outage that brought the game to a halt for more than a half-hour.

I'm still amazed the admittance of blame came this quick. Plus I'm laughing at Entergy's tweet like 10 minutes into the blackout saying it wasn't their fault: then again that's par for the course for a utility company.

/That's why I now have a whole-house backup generator.
//Had two separate 6-day power outages a couple of years ago.


Wait...wait...you're telling me that Entergy actually took the blame for something?

Someone grab me my fainting couch.

/laughed hysterically at how fast Entergy tried to steer the blame away from them when the power first went out
 
2013-02-08 03:34:19 PM
The relay wasn't supposed to prevent a Superdome blackout. It was specifically DESIGNED to blackout the Superdome to prevent permanent equipment damage in the event of an abnormality in the switchgear outside the stadium.

Rapmaster2000: Sounds like they needed a backup device to fail the failure and turn the power back on.

if (fail)
  !fail;


I'd say the best solution would be to have an alternative grid connection to a different substation. If the relay detects a fault on the primary feeder, it would open the primary breakers and send a signal to close the auxiliary breakers.
 
2013-02-08 03:42:39 PM
Entergy New Orleans sent out a tweet during the Super Bowl, that it has sense appeared to have deleted, that said:  Entergy New Orleans (@EntergyNOLA) tweeted at 7:44 PM on Sun, Feb 03, 2013:
Power issue at the Super Dome appears to be in the customer's side. Entergy is providing power to the Dome.
 
2013-02-08 03:43:25 PM
Entergy says they took out the equipment in question and will replace it with another one.

But to me, it sounds like the equipment was working fine, it was the dingbats at Entergy that didn't know how to use it.
 
2013-02-08 03:47:22 PM
www.nypost.com

Looks like Mademoiselle Minetserre got away with another one.

cptfroggersrealm.webs.com

She told you she'd get you back for farking with her football team, Goodall. Fark with a voodoo child and they get even, one way or another.
 
2013-02-08 03:51:39 PM
If the device installed to prevent blackouts was what caused the blackout, wouldn't that qualify as "ironic"?

/though "obvious" works in a Murphy's Law sort of way
 
2013-02-08 03:56:36 PM

Mrtraveler01: Entergy says they took out the equipment in question and will replace it with another one.

But to me, it sounds like the equipment was working fine, it was the dingbats at Entergy that didn't know how to use it.


Of all people, from National Geographic:


"In working with those involved, we found that the electric outage at the Super Bowl was a result of the electric load current exceeding the trip setting for the switchgear relay as set by the system operators," said Michael Edmonds, S&C's vice president for strategic solutions, in an email exchange with National Geographic News. "Based on the onsite testing, we have determined that if higher settings had been applied, the equipment would not have disconnected the power.


Improper relay settings for a farking overcurrent relay of all things. Sounds like they need to replace their distribution planning engineers.
 
2013-02-08 03:56:37 PM
Sooo, it WASN'T robsul82?

I think I owe him an apology. -_-'
 
2013-02-08 03:59:16 PM
I vote for backup generators, since I work with backup generators a little.

The best thing about the blackout was they hung around for a minute then went to commercial (Iron Man), so it went straight from darkened stadium to a missle hitting air force one. The devil popped up on my shoulder and said 'it would be hilarious now if it were terrorists.'

I had a paranoid 7th grade teacher, probably a bircher, who always said the communists were taking over our shores inch by inch and the Superbowl should not be played because they are sitting ducks for terrorists. Nobody at that age had the debate skills to tell her she was full of it, but I have to admit that extremists are wackier now than they were back then.
 
2013-02-08 04:07:34 PM
No, Things that go bump in the night caused the blackout. Read all about it at uncoveror.com
 
2013-02-08 04:13:32 PM

The Madd Mann: Of all people, from National Geographic:


Yep, I just read that article. Wrong settings in the feeder relay, coupled with a poor coordination study. Although I can say I was glad to find out it wasn't with the relay product line I'm responsible for (same stuff, different company).
 
2013-02-08 04:52:07 PM
... You're doing it wrong.
 
2013-02-08 05:00:18 PM

Mrtraveler01: Someone grab me my fainting couch.


Best I can do on short notice...

sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net

But it is my favorite.
 
2013-02-08 05:22:42 PM

The Madd Mann: Mrtraveler01: Entergy says they took out the equipment in question and will replace it with another one.

But to me, it sounds like the equipment was working fine, it was the dingbats at Entergy that didn't know how to use it.

Of all people, from National Geographic:


"In working with those involved, we found that the electric outage at the Super Bowl was a result of the electric load current exceeding the trip setting for the switchgear relay as set by the system operators," said Michael Edmonds, S&C's vice president for strategic solutions, in an email exchange with National Geographic News. "Based on the onsite testing, we have determined that if higher settings had been applied, the equipment would not have disconnected the power.


Improper relay settings for a farking overcurrent relay of all things. Sounds like they need to replace their distribution planning engineers.


Son of an electrician who gets to play with musical/electrical gear all the time, and that amount of stupid is truly hurting my brain.
 
2013-02-08 05:42:44 PM

Sinister Plans: So... doesn't this make sense?  A malfunction by something that directly deals with blackout protection seems to be much more intuitive than say, a hot dog vendor farking up the EV Charging Station when he got to work..


Kinda... it's kinda scary how frequently safety equipment causes disastrous failures.  IIRC both Chernobyl and the more recent Texas City explosion happened when the staff was conducting safety checkups.
 
2013-02-08 05:56:12 PM
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2013-02-08 06:06:13 PM

Rapmaster2000: Sounds like they needed a backup device to fail the failure and turn the power back on.

if (fail)
  !fail;


It can only be attributable to human error.

www.sol20.com
 
2013-02-08 06:21:59 PM

Therion: [img16.imageshack.us image 480x445]


Cuz those union guys do a bang up job since it doesn't matter wtf they do they get paid anyways

/I deal with unionized workers in some call centers and they dont give a fark about helping
 
2013-02-08 06:39:58 PM

images1.wikia.nocookie.net

The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.

 
2013-02-08 06:55:27 PM

neuroflare: Therion: [img16.imageshack.us image 480x445]

Cuz those union guys do a bang up job since it doesn't matter wtf they do they get paid anyways

/I deal with unionized workers in some call centers and they dont give a fark about helping


Not a single person in a call center gives a fark about helping, union or not
 
2013-02-08 06:59:46 PM
ESPN's blurb on their front page:

"Super Bowl blackout due to electrical device"

NO WAI!
 
2013-02-08 07:03:03 PM

neuroflare: Therion: [img16.imageshack.us image 480x445]

Cuz those union guys do a bang up job since it doesn't matter wtf they do they get paid anyways

/I deal with unionized workers in some call centers and they dont give a fark about helping


As a electrician who's worked in Texas for years and has to deal with the unions down here every now and then (Yes they are around, but no one cares and they are powerless) that picture is the trollingest, dumbest shiat I have ever seen. If us non-union electricians caused the blackout then I guaran-farking-tee the stadium would have caught fire and exploded if the union's around here wired it.

//Some of the most inept and lazy electricians I have ever had the displeasure of working with.
///Heard at least northern unions are competent.
 
2013-02-08 07:16:59 PM

Sargun: Not a single person in a call center gives a fark about helping, union or not


We're out there. Few and far between it seems, but we exist.
 
2013-02-08 07:19:07 PM
Trollin4Colon:
///Heard at least northern unions are competent.

Um, up here?  Most of them are farking useless and can't even read a wiring diagram, let alone wire anything right...
 
2013-02-08 07:33:04 PM

Therion: img16.imageshack.us


Union electricians did not cause this. "Professional" engineers did a shiatty coordination study when determining the relay trip settings. If there was an actual electrical fault in the system, something else far downstream should have tripped first creating a barely noticeable outage in a very localized part of the stadium, and the main relay should have held on.
 
2013-02-08 07:35:44 PM
Should have moved the NFL to San Antonio when they had the chance.
 
2013-02-08 07:39:06 PM

Outtaphase: Union electricians did not cause this


Sorry, should not have specified what type of electrician. Engineers do coordination studies. Electricians are not Engineers (and vice-versa, for those idiot engineers that think they're qualified to physically wire something up without the specific training.)
 
2013-02-08 07:39:22 PM

Therion:


What's funny is that even in right to work states most state or city run structures have union labor calling the shots. Its why they are so farked up and never seem to get it right.
 
2013-02-08 08:15:26 PM
Organized crime wanted the score closer. Why do you people have a problem with this?
 
2013-02-08 08:35:19 PM
anyone who has ever had entergy as their power company will not be surprised by this.
 
2013-02-08 09:53:16 PM
They said the device has been removed and replacement equipment will be installed.

Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked.
 
2013-02-08 10:23:01 PM
I just figured it was caused by flying spiders.
 
2013-02-08 10:29:36 PM
I thought it was caused by Beyonce plugging in her vibrator.
 
2013-02-08 10:42:11 PM
Goddell: "But I want a excuse for New Orleans to make a new stadium...*pouts*."
 
2013-02-08 11:27:48 PM

Therion: [img16.imageshack.us image 480x445]


I think you live in a world of make believe.  Good luck to you , sir.
 
2013-02-09 03:36:05 AM

whistleridge: Bravo, subby, for resisting the siren lure of the Ironic tag.


Yet if the headline is accuate (I DRTFA) then it would have been appropriate.


It's like RAAAAIIIIIAAAAAIIIIINNNN
 
2013-02-09 04:02:00 AM

Arkanaut: Sinister Plans: So... doesn't this make sense?  A malfunction by something that directly deals with blackout protection seems to be much more intuitive than say, a hot dog vendor farking up the EV Charging Station when he got to work..

Kinda... it's kinda scary how frequently safety equipment causes disastrous failures.  IIRC both Chernobyl and the more recent Texas City explosion happened when the staff was conducting safety checkups.


Chernobyl wasn't because of a safety checkup. It was a "Gee, what happens when we disable all of the safety and backup systems." Why? Because they didn't know and were curious. Or so that's what their memos indicated.

In this context it would have been if the utility had decided to unilaterally cut power, disable the generators, lock the doors and remove the emergency "exit" lamps to see what a Superbowl crowd will do in absolute darkness, and then be surprised at the resulting panic and deaths.
 
2013-02-09 08:55:43 AM

whistleridge: Bravo, subby, for resisting the siren lure of the Ironic tag.


Well, they at least could have used the "plug" tag.
 
2013-02-09 09:02:45 AM

Kenny B: I thought it was caused by Beyonce plugging in her vibrator.


Now THAT would have been a great halftime show.
 
2013-02-10 10:41:45 AM
whistleridge: Bravo, subby, for resisting the siren lure of the Ironic tag.

Why? Isn't that the actual textbook definition of Irony in the headline?
 
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