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(ABC Local)   When a sixth-grader is left IN A COMA after a schoolyard fight, I think you need to use a stronger word than "bullying" to describe the attack, and maybe hand out a punishment stiffer than a two-day suspension   (abclocal.go.com ) divider line
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2013-02-08 02:14:03 PM  
6 votes:
Is it time to have a discussion about banning sixth-graders?
2013-02-08 02:44:45 PM  
5 votes:

hitlersbrain: I remember one of the things my moron teachers would always say... it takes two to make a fight.


Maybe you misheard them, and they were saying "It takes two to make a thing go right," or possibly "It takes two to make it out of sight."
2013-02-08 02:16:20 PM  
5 votes:

kendelrio: Is it time to have a discussion about banning sixth-graders?


I have never, ever, ever felt more justified in using this image than I do now...

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2013-02-08 11:55:43 AM  
5 votes:
the kid (victim) should have claimed the bullies pointed their fingers at him and said bang!
They would have been expulsed that day.
2013-02-08 02:31:18 PM  
3 votes:

uncleacid: You can shove your thoughts and prayers up your ass.


But it's full of coffee!
2013-02-08 02:21:03 PM  
3 votes:
IN A COMA after a schoolyard fight

IN A COMA because of a schoolyard fight


/post hoc ergo propter hoc nazi
2013-02-08 04:47:46 PM  
2 votes:

over_and_done: Atomic Spunk: durbnpoisn: My wife works at the elementary school up the street.  Last week one of the teachers there got put into a headlock by a student.  In the esuing scuffle, he somehow ended up breaking her hand.

See, to me, that's a simple matter of assault.  No question.  The kid should have been taken away by the police, and suspended for at least a few weeks.

But, in this case, the Principle just yelled at the kid and sent him home.  He was back the next day.

That's pretty f'n stupid.  If that were my wife with the broken hand, I would have gone to the kid's hous and kicked his father's ass for being a lousy parent.

Nice, in theory. The reality is that if the kid was violent enough to put his female teacher in a headlock, the kid's father is likely an ornery SOB. If you went to their home with the intention of picking a fight, you'd probably find yourself looking down the wrong end of a shotgun.

Then I shoot the ornery SOB in the face and claim I was defending msyelf, and the world still ends up a better place.


Pfft.

I would have hogtied and suspended him on a meathook in a walk-in freezer.  Then I would spend hours using a unfurled wire hanger and whip him until his skin becomes ribbons. Then I would start ripping his skin off strip by strip like you would a chicken brease until his entire body is a dripping, bloody mess.

I would then smear his body in feces and seal him in an oil drum until his body putrefies.  After a week, I would find out where he live and smear his liquid remains all over the house for all of his family to see. Then I would lay low for a while and stalk all of hims family members.  Whenever one of his relatives has a male child, I would kill him in the same way I did the bully once he reaches the bully's age.  I would also train my own children the same art and have them stalk future generations once I pass away so that the curse will stay with the family forever.

Once the last members of the bully's family die out, my offspring would anonymously reveal my plot and teach the world the follies of bullying.
2013-02-08 03:55:17 PM  
2 votes:

fawlty: Just think, if the bullies had cut his hair, they'd be looking at 15 years in the slammer.



Not if their daddy's rich.


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2013-02-08 02:40:59 PM  
2 votes:
Considering the quality of schools nowadays, are we certain he wasn't left in a comma?
2013-02-08 02:38:22 PM  
2 votes:

ChaoticLimbs: Punishments are meted out based on what a child DID, not by what happened as a result.


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2013-02-08 02:34:01 PM  
2 votes:
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2013-02-08 02:27:38 PM  
2 votes:
In Sweden, bullies are identified early on in grade school. Rather than suppress the trait, the bullies are taught to think of themselves as 'sheep dogs', and their classmates are the flock they protect. They still 'bully' and sometimes berate, but with their behaviour corrected to a useful or at least more benign role.

Same bully, same jackass really, but he's picking on you for cutting class instead of how you comb your hair.
2013-02-08 02:19:45 PM  
2 votes:
if the victim had a gun this wouldn't have happened.
Pud
2013-02-08 12:03:53 PM  
2 votes:
And here in Georgia they are expelling several kids for a food fight during lunch. I think I'm starting to see the logic behind school punishments. Damned near kill a kid: Stay home and play video games for a couple of days and think about what you did. Throw some mashed potatoes, or point a finger and say bang (as DownDaRiver pointed out): YOOOUUURRR'E OUTTA' HERE !!!!
2013-02-08 04:23:11 PM  
1 vote:
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Takes out the bully AND cleans the gene pool at the same time.
2013-02-08 04:11:54 PM  
1 vote:

Jim from Saint Paul: Came for the people saying "it's only a medial coma".

Leaving satisfied and still shaking my head in disbelief at these people.


You mean to tell me that it's not a big deal to place someone under a general anesthetic, chemical paralysis, mechanical ventilation, with an intracranial pressure monitor sticking into their brain, a central venous line, a Foley catheter in their bladder, a feeding tube in their duodenum, and on diuretics for days and weeks at a time?  Surely nothing bad could happen with such simple preventative measures.
2013-02-08 04:09:25 PM  
1 vote:

edmo: Does someone have to get shot before they'll call the police? Sounds like they didn't do anything until the kid was in the hospital.


Try reading text instead of listening to it.
2013-02-08 03:58:30 PM  
1 vote:

LeroyBourne: No joke, I knew this guy who had a 4th and 5th grader, and like every day when they got home he would ask what they learned.  One day one of them answered 'if mommy or you ever hit us we're supposed to call 911.'  He was shocked, and pissed the way the schools are going down hill, and this was well over a decade ago.


Yeah, it was better in the olden days, when schools looked the other way when parents were abusing their children.
2013-02-08 03:46:27 PM  
1 vote:
Just think, if the bullies had cut his hair, they'd be looking at 15 years in the slammer.
2013-02-08 03:38:41 PM  
1 vote:

MycroftHolmes: ChaoticLimbs: Punishments are meted out based on what a child DID, not by what happened as a result. The bully hit a kid, that carries a punishment of suspension. The coma was his fault, but he didn't do anything more than most middle schoolers do.

Save your outrage. People fall down and sometimes damage their brains. If you shoved past someone to get on the subway, and as a result, he fell down and was stepped on and died, did you kill that person? No. But it's your fault that he died.
Shoving a person and murdering a person are different. Both are bad, but one is murder and one is rudeness or assault.

The law does not agree.  Locally, a man was charged with murder because he got in a barfight(he was drunk) with another man (who was also drunk).  One punch, the drunk fell back and hit his head.  This was deemed murder (not sure where the settled out).  In reality, outcomes do matter.


That is the plot to Con Air.
2013-02-08 03:23:50 PM  
1 vote:
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Ready to swirly this thread.
2013-02-08 03:19:51 PM  
1 vote:
No pic of Butch Magnus from the Boondocks yet?
2013-02-08 03:08:24 PM  
1 vote:
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2013-02-08 03:02:26 PM  
1 vote:

ChaoticLimbs: Punishments are meted out based on what a child DID, not by what happened as a result. The bully hit a kid, that carries a punishment of suspension. The coma was his fault, but he didn't do anything more than most middle schoolers do.

Save your outrage. People fall down and sometimes damage their brains. If you shoved past someone to get on the subway, and as a result, he fell down and was stepped on and died, did you kill that person? No. But it's your fault that he died.
Shoving a person and murdering a person are different. Both are bad, but one is murder and one is rudeness or assault.


It's not the bully's fault that Puny Parker can't take a punch due to his radioactive bones being more brittle than pretzel sticks.
2013-02-08 02:57:12 PM  
1 vote:

FinFangFark: StaleCoffee: hitlersbrain: I believe any bullies need to be ostracised... permanently. They're the lowest of human scum and one of the most disruptive and destructive elements of society. That being said, you really can't treat the kid any different than you would if his victim had not gone into a coma.

I remember one of the things my moron teachers would always say... it takes two to make a fight. It was their way of passing the buck by blaming the victim (me). It's surprising how many teachers are borderline retarded, even in 'good' schools.

I don't believe bullies should be permanently ostracized, but I do think punishments need to be a lot better thought out. Given no way to make good on what they did then why should they bother being anything other than bullying pricks?

I tell my sons that it takes two to fight, because if you just sit there and take it you're going to get an ass beating. I also told them not to worry about what the adults say - you handle the kid starting shiat, and I will deal with the adults with whom you get in trouble.

After dealing with their school for years I'm no longer surprised by the apparently vast numbers of semi moronic teachers. Don't wait 6 weeks to send me a form in triplicate that my son has been acting up, send home a note ASAP so I can set him straight that farking day.

Question - How would you react and punish your kids if you found out they were bullying other kids.  Not fighting to defend themselves, but they were the pricks picking on kids constantly?


I got a note in triplicate about my 6 year old doing just that. He wasn't physically attacking anyone but he was being mean to a particular kid.

I had a long talk with him, listened to him when he told me why he did it, told him its okay to be upset but treating people like that was wrong. I reminded him that regardless of his "why" for doing it, he was still acting like a bully and being the mean kid. He has to apologize to the other kid on Monday. He also loses anything electronics for the next week as a reminder, since 6 year olds are not known for their reasoning or retention skills sans reinforcement. I hope it stops there but if it escalates I will talk to him again and he will be punished again, and I will try to talk to someone who knows how the fark to properly deal with that since I don't seem to be doing it right at that point.

My older son got into a fight with a kid on the bus. He was defending himself. He chose not to inflict permanent harm on the other kid and was upset because he took a haymaker to the face even though he "blocked all the other stupid punches. He didn't even have a fighting style or anything, it was stupid." I've taught my kids some BJJ because I don't want them to get their asses kicked like I did. The bus driver apologized to me, made the other kid move and that was the end of the incident.

I'm still glad I don't have daughters.
2013-02-08 02:41:47 PM  
1 vote:

ChaoticLimbs: Punishments are meted out based on what a child DID, not by what happened as a result. The bully hit a kid, that carries a punishment of suspension. The coma was his fault, but he didn't do anything more than most middle schoolers do.

Save your outrage. People fall down and sometimes damage their brains. If you shoved past someone to get on the subway, and as a result, he fell down and was stepped on and died, did you kill that person? No. But it's your fault that he died.
Shoving a person and murdering a person are different. Both are bad, but one is murder and one is rudeness or assault.


so vote republican.
2013-02-08 02:41:26 PM  
1 vote:
THIS is why I can't have kids, RIGHT HERE. Because if ANY damn ass crotch creature from some MISGUIDED and IDIOT PARENTS DARE LAY a FINGER on MY CHILD. I WILL GO FULL JULES FROM PULP FICTION ON THE LITTLE RAT BASTARD! AND THEY SHALL KNOW MY NAME IS THE *LORD* WHEN I LAY MY VENGEANCE UPON THEM!

You never go Full Jules!
2013-02-08 02:36:19 PM  
1 vote:

kendelrio: Is it time to have a discussion about banning sixth-graders?


I have never known a sixth-grader worth keeping, and that includes myself at that age.
2013-02-08 02:35:39 PM  
1 vote:

doubled99: Kids fight. It was a freak occurrence. There is no need to treat the kid like a criminal.


Something tells that if it had been your kid pummeled into a coma you wouldn't be so cavalier.

farking idiot.
2013-02-08 02:34:04 PM  
1 vote:

doubled99: Kids fight. It was a freak occurrence. There is no need to treat the kid like a criminal.


I think one of my old retarded high school teachers is a farker!
2013-02-08 02:24:41 PM  
1 vote:

FirstNationalBastard: So, "Zero Tolerance" only applies when someone throws an imaginary hand grenade?


It's the thought that counts.
2013-02-08 02:18:20 PM  
1 vote:
It's not like that.

The kid had WMDs.
2013-02-08 02:17:12 PM  
1 vote:
Punishments are meted out based on what a child DID, not by what happened as a result. The bully hit a kid, that carries a punishment of suspension. The coma was his fault, but he didn't do anything more than most middle schoolers do.

Save your outrage. People fall down and sometimes damage their brains. If you shoved past someone to get on the subway, and as a result, he fell down and was stepped on and died, did you kill that person? No. But it's your fault that he died.
Shoving a person and murdering a person are different. Both are bad, but one is murder and one is rudeness or assault.
2013-02-08 01:46:06 PM  
1 vote:
So, "Zero Tolerance" only applies when someone throws an imaginary hand grenade?
 
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