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(SFGate)   In a shocking twist of events that suprises everyone, "Southern" diets have been linked with cancer, heart disease, and stroke   (sfgate.com) divider line 63
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2013-02-08 09:24:00 AM
They're also linked with deliciousness, artery-clogging deliciousness
 
2013-02-08 09:25:30 AM
but enough about honey boo boo
 
2013-02-08 09:26:56 AM
Oblig.
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2013-02-08 09:28:26 AM
Worth it
 
2013-02-08 09:29:34 AM
I'm going to Waffle House right now.
 
2013-02-08 09:30:00 AM
Chicken-fried pork chops are still OK though, right?
 
2013-02-08 09:30:42 AM
Nice try, MOOchelle.
 
2013-02-08 09:30:56 AM
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2013-02-08 09:31:55 AM
Stand back y'all, I'ma 'bout ta do Science!
 
2013-02-08 09:34:29 AM
*slips through thread*
 
2013-02-08 09:35:05 AM
"There were 138 strokes among the 4,977 who ate the most Southern food, compared to 109 strokes among the 5,156 people eating the least of it."


Oooo!

Pass the biscuits and gravy, please.
 
2013-02-08 09:35:42 AM
I smoked some ribs last weekend that had the equivalent of a cartons worth of mesquite cigarettes.
 
2013-02-08 09:35:55 AM
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2013-02-08 09:39:11 AM
So why do people that aren't southerners get those diseases?

/Just curious ; )
 
2013-02-08 09:39:20 AM
Yesterday for lunch I had fried chicken and waffles.  Suck it, Arugula-humpers
 
2013-02-08 09:39:49 AM

LeafyGreens: "There were 138 strokes among the 4,977 who ate the most Southern food, compared to 109 strokes among the 5,156 people eating the least of it."


Oooo!

Pass the biscuits and gravy, please.


2.8% vs 2.1%

I'll take them next.
 
2013-02-08 09:41:52 AM
I once witnessed a southern lady making some of that sweet tea they all drink down there.

Jebus, I never saw so much sugar go into anything. She just kept pouring and pouring.

*shudder*
 
2013-02-08 09:42:51 AM
GENETICS!! Because fark you ...
 
2013-02-08 09:45:03 AM
Yeah, because living past 65 is so worth the sacrifice.  Starve yourself now so you can fill up on loneliness, poverty, and the ache of unfulfilled dreams.  No thanks.

The majority of 65+ people I know are shells of their former selves.  They can't compete at any physical tasks - even something as non-athletic as golf in which they move the "forward" tees up about 20 yards from the green.  They're basically mentally retarded - "I learned a new card game this month!  I'm a genius!  What's trump again?"  And socially, no one wants them around because all they want to do is ask a bunch of idiotic yet personal questions and force hugs on people who don't want them.  There's a reason why there used to be a rocking chair in near the window in the attic - so the occasional genetic mishap could sit up there and watch the dust bowl unfold while the rest of the family tried to enjoy their already miserable lives.  Now with so many medications pumped into their veins - basically raw stimulants and pain killers - these translucent skin farks get to wander around grocery stores looking terrified that someone might push a cart within three aisles of them.  The two things they pray for are death and the chance sighting of a baby, who will stare at them while they make funny faces, only half of which are voluntary.

We've got a nightmare coming too - about a hundred million of them are about to leave the larvae stage and become elderly butterflies with enough meds and bionic body parts to live another thirty to forty years.  We need to build more concentration camps, like that shiat hole down in Florida, to coral them all up in golf carts and hand-clapping classes.  "Yes, yes, you're living a full life - now stand in this line and dance.  Smile you fark!  We're trying to sell property here!"  God bless those retirement account fleecing places - they keep all the old corralled within one walled in place, like a thriving cancer cell.  We need more of them to handle the coming oldpocolypse.
 
2013-02-08 09:53:41 AM
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That is all.
 
2013-02-08 09:53:45 AM

spentmiles: Yeah, because living past 65 is so worth the sacrifice.  Starve yourself now so you can fill up on loneliness, poverty, and the ache of unfulfilled dreams.  No thanks.

The majority of 65+ people I know are shells of their former selves.  They can't compete at any physical tasks - even something as non-athletic as golf in which they move the "forward" tees up about 20 yards from the green.  They're basically mentally retarded - "I learned a new card game this month!  I'm a genius!  What's trump again?"  And socially, no one wants them around because all they want to do is ask a bunch of idiotic yet personal questions and force hugs on people who don't want them.  There's a reason why there used to be a rocking chair in near the window in the attic - so the occasional genetic mishap could sit up there and watch the dust bowl unfold while the rest of the family tried to enjoy their already miserable lives.  Now with so many medications pumped into their veins - basically raw stimulants and pain killers - these translucent skin farks get to wander around grocery stores looking terrified that someone might push a cart within three aisles of them.  The two things they pray for are death and the chance sighting of a baby, who will stare at them while they make funny faces, only half of which are voluntary.

We've got a nightmare coming too - about a hundred million of them are about to leave the larvae stage and become elderly butterflies with enough meds and bionic body parts to live another thirty to forty years.  We need to build more concentration camps, like that shiat hole down in Florida, to coral them all up in golf carts and hand-clapping classes.  "Yes, yes, you're living a full life - now stand in this line and dance.  Smile you fark!  We're trying to sell property here!"  God bless those retirement account fleecing places - they keep all the old corralled within one walled in place, like a thriving cancer cell.  We need more of them to handle the coming oldpoc ...


I'm over 65, and I resemble your remarks.
Oh, wait.....
 
2013-02-08 10:00:08 AM
I blame grits.
 
2013-02-08 10:00:54 AM

doczoidberg: I once witnessed a southern lady making some of that sweet tea they all drink down there.

Jebus, I never saw so much sugar go into anything. She just kept pouring and pouring.

*shudder*


bless  yer heart
 
2013-02-08 10:01:23 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: So why do people that aren't southerners get those diseases?

/Just curious ; )


Empathy?
 
2013-02-08 10:02:52 AM

spentmiles: Yeah, because living past 65 is so worth the sacrifice.  Starve yourself now so you can fill up on loneliness, poverty, and the ache of unfulfilled dreams.  No thanks.

The majority of 65+ people I know are shells of their former selves.  They can't compete at any physical tasks - even something as non-athletic as golf in which they move the "forward" tees up about 20 yards from the green.  They're basically mentally retarded - "I learned a new card game this month!  I'm a genius!  What's trump again?"  And socially, no one wants them around because all they want to do is ask a bunch of idiotic yet personal questions and force hugs on people who don't want them.  There's a reason why there used to be a rocking chair in near the window in the attic - so the occasional genetic mishap could sit up there and watch the dust bowl unfold while the rest of the family tried to enjoy their already miserable lives.  Now with so many medications pumped into their veins - basically raw stimulants and pain killers - these translucent skin farks get to wander around grocery stores looking terrified that someone might push a cart within three aisles of them.  The two things they pray for are death and the chance sighting of a baby, who will stare at them while they make funny faces, only half of which are voluntary.

We've got a nightmare coming too - about a hundred million of them are about to leave the larvae stage and become elderly butterflies with enough meds and bionic body parts to live another thirty to forty years.  We need to build more concentration camps, like that shiat hole down in Florida, to coral them all up in golf carts and hand-clapping classes.  "Yes, yes, you're living a full life - now stand in this line and dance.  Smile you fark!  We're trying to sell property here!"  God bless those retirement account fleecing places - they keep all the old corralled within one walled in place, like a thriving cancer cell.  We need more of them to handle the coming oldpoc ...


Bloody christ you are farking hilarious.  hahahahaha
 
2013-02-08 10:03:01 AM
Neil Young is not a southern man, but he likes fried eggs and country ham.
 
2013-02-08 10:03:47 AM
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2013-02-08 10:05:51 AM

spentmiles: Yeah, because living past 65 is so worth the sacrifice.  Starve yourself now so you can fill up on loneliness, poverty, and the ache of unfulfilled dreams.  No thanks.

The majority of 65+ people I know are shells of their former selves.  They can't compete at any physical tasks - even something as non-athletic as golf in which they move the "forward" tees up about 20 yards from the green.  They're basically mentally retarded - ... Now with so many medications pumped into their veins - basically raw stimulants and pain killers - these translucent skin farks get to wander around grocery stores looking terrified that someone might push a cart within three aisles of them.  The two things they pray for are death and the chance sighting of a baby, who will stare at them while they make funny faces, only half of which are voluntary.


Old people can be annoying, but being truly old happens when you give up and stop taking care of your body and your mind. The bonus is that most old people who take care of themselves don't typically need to live on pills and joint replacements. I guess you will be one of those people who give up early. 65 is still very young in my family.

/plans on being an old person who lives to annoy people for a long while, but at least my partner and I will have each other
//works with older people in a healthcare setting and it's amazing how a 90 year old can seem fitter or even younger than a 60 year old, simply because the 90 year old has stayed active
 
2013-02-08 10:06:47 AM

Broktun: Neil Young is not a southern man, but he likes fried eggs and country ham.


We don't need him around anyhow.
 
2013-02-08 10:07:44 AM

wellreadneck: tinfoil-hat maggie: So why do people that aren't southerners get those diseases?

/Just curious ; )

Empathy?


LOL ; )
 
2013-02-08 10:09:06 AM

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0.o
 
2013-02-08 10:12:55 AM
Having formally lived in the South for more than 20 years I can tell you that the food there is indeed delicious.  Charleston, SC has some wonderful food and even has gourmet restaurants
specializing in Southern Cooking which have been featured on the Food Channel.http://www.mavericksouthernkitchens.com/highcotton/charleston /

The reason the food is artery clogging is due to the history of the South, the South is poor and when you don't have much to eat you try and figure out how to get the most you can out of whatever
food you happen to get so people quickly found that by frying anything it would taste good and give you enough calories to get through the day.

Fried Chicken.
Fried Okra
Fried Green Tomatoes (Yes, this is an actual dish and not just a movie title)
Fried Shrimp
Country Fried Steak (Basically a cheap cut of red meat dipped in batter and fried in a pan for more flavor)
Hush Puppies

Or add Bacon to a dish  - Butter Beans / Black Eyed Peas with plenty of Butter and bacon.

Biscuits dripping with honey butter.

This wasn't a problem as long as you worked on a farm, I have many relatives who worked on farms in the 50's and 60's and would butcher their own hogs to make bacon/sausage, fried their chicken every day and would wash everything down with Tea or RC Cola and they were lean and strong as horses from working in the fields all day.   But once the farm land was sold in the 70's they continued to eat like they used to and quickly became obese.

Ribs are particularly dangerous in the South, my gosh those people know how to cook ribs and they taste so good!

I moved up North when I was in my late 20's and got involved in the 'Gym Culture' right away so I am more careful with what I eat but I do enjoy Southern Food when I get the chance to visit.
 
2013-02-08 10:13:06 AM

spentmiles: Yeah, because living past 65 is so worth the sacrifice.  Starve yourself now so you can fill up on loneliness, poverty, and the ache of unfulfilled dreams.  No thanks.

The majority of 65+ people I know are shells of their former selves.  They can't compete at any physical tasks - even something as non-athletic as golf in which they move the "forward" tees up about 20 yards from the green.  They're basically mentally retarded - "I learned a new card game this month!  I'm a genius!  What's trump again?"  And socially, no one wants them around because all they want to do is ask a bunch of idiotic yet personal questions and force hugs on people who don't want them.  There's a reason why there used to be a rocking chair in near the window in the attic - so the occasional genetic mishap could sit up there and watch the dust bowl unfold while the rest of the family tried to enjoy their already miserable lives.  Now with so many medications pumped into their veins - basically raw stimulants and pain killers - these translucent skin farks get to wander around grocery stores looking terrified that someone might push a cart within three aisles of them.  The two things they pray for are death and the chance sighting of a baby, who will stare at them while they make funny faces, only half of which are voluntary.

We've got a nightmare coming too - about a hundred million of them are about to leave the larvae stage and become elderly butterflies with enough meds and bionic body parts to live another thirty to forty years.  We need to build more concentration camps, like that shiat hole down in Florida, to coral them all up in golf carts and hand-clapping classes.  "Yes, yes, you're living a full life - now stand in this line and dance.  Smile you fark!  We're trying to sell property here!"  God bless those retirement account fleecing places - they keep all the old corralled within one walled in place, like a thriving cancer cell.  We need more of them to handle the coming oldpoc ...


this shiat hole you speak of......... Century Village?
 
2013-02-08 10:13:34 AM
Damn, now I want a chicken fried bacon appetizer with cream gravy, followed by a chicken fried steak covered in cream gravy, mashed potatoes, corn, biscuits, and some beer.Followed up with some type of fruit cobbler that is heavy on the dough.Lunch can't get here quick enough.
 
2013-02-08 10:16:25 AM
Agreed way too much with a spentmiles post.  Going off to re-examine life now.
 
2013-02-08 10:17:51 AM

spentmiles: Yeah, because living past 65 is so worth the sacrifice.  Starve yourself now so you can fill up on loneliness, poverty, and the ache of unfulfilled dreams.  No thanks.


[slowclap.jpg]

I lol'd, but the "millenials are the most stressed out generation EVAR" thread is one up from this one.
 
2013-02-08 10:25:50 AM
lc6529:
Country Fried Steak (Basically a cheap cut of red meat dipped in batter and fried in a pan for more flavor)

I don't remember where I saw it, but some TV show said CFS invented by German immigrants wanting to make Wiener Schnitzel, but couldn't find veal.


This wasn't a problem as long as you worked on a farm, I have many relatives who worked on farms in the 50's and 60's and would butcher their own hogs to make bacon/sausage, fried their chicken every day and would wash everything down with Tea or RC Cola and they were lean and strong as horses from working in the fields all day.   But once the farm land was sold in the 70's they continued to eat like they used to and quickly became obese.

It also happens when the kids move away.  They are so used to cooking for 8 people for up to 30 years they have a hard time making the adjustment to cooking for 2.
 
2013-02-08 10:26:18 AM

your average maint. man: spentmiles: Yeah, because living past 65 is so worth the sacrifice.  Starve yourself now so you can fill up on loneliness, poverty, and the ache of unfulfilled dreams.  No thanks.

The majority of 65+ people I know are shells of their former selves.  They can't compete at any physical tasks - even something as non-athletic as golf in which they move the "forward" tees up about 20 yards from the green.  They're basically mentally retarded - "I learned a new card game this month!  I'm a genius!  What's trump again?"  And socially, no one wants them around because all they want to do is ask a bunch of idiotic yet personal questions and force hugs on people who don't want them.  There's a reason why there used to be a rocking chair in near the window in the attic - so the occasional genetic mishap could sit up there and watch the dust bowl unfold while the rest of the family tried to enjoy their already miserable lives.  Now with so many medications pumped into their veins - basically raw stimulants and pain killers - these translucent skin farks get to wander around grocery stores looking terrified that someone might push a cart within three aisles of them.  The two things they pray for are death and the chance sighting of a baby, who will stare at them while they make funny faces, only half of which are voluntary.

We've got a nightmare coming too - about a hundred million of them are about to leave the larvae stage and become elderly butterflies with enough meds and bionic body parts to live another thirty to forty years.  We need to build more concentration camps, like that shiat hole down in Florida, to coral them all up in golf carts and hand-clapping classes.  "Yes, yes, you're living a full life - now stand in this line and dance.  Smile you fark!  We're trying to sell property here!"  God bless those retirement account fleecing places - they keep all the old corralled within one walled in place, like a thriving cancer cell.  We need more of them to handle the coming oldpoc ...

this shiat hole you speak of......... Century Village?


My mind jumped to Sun City first before I realized that it was in Arizona, which for old people is exactly the same place as Florida.
 
2013-02-08 10:31:50 AM
Next up, bears shiat in the woods.
 
2013-02-08 10:39:25 AM

lc6529: Fried Okra


I can eat that shiat by the pound, absolutely love fried okra.
 
2013-02-08 11:03:04 AM
http://www.fark.com/users/scottydoesntknow :I can eat that shiat by the pound, absolutely love fried okra.

Got that right, good stuff!   Especially with a chilled cool bottle of RC Cola...

Damn man, now you got me wanting Fried Okra....
 
2013-02-08 11:12:24 AM

lc6529: Having formally lived in the South for more than 20 years I can tell you that the food there is indeed delicious.

(snip)

This wasn't a problem as long as you worked on a farm, I have many relatives who worked on farms in the 50's and 60's and would butcher their own hogs to make bacon/sausage, fried their chicken every day and would wash everything down with Tea or RC Cola and they were lean and strong as horses from working in the fields all day.   But once the farm land was sold in the 70's they continued to eat like they used to and quickly became obese.


(snip)


I've only been in the South informally....

Snark aside, I think you're right on the mark about people changing their livelihoods but not changing their food mores.  We travel through the upper Midwest several times in a typical summer and I'm amazed by the folks in rural MN, WI, and the UP.  You're not logging, farming, or mining any more!  You don't need to eat 5,000 calories at every meal.  The first exercise those people need to start is pushing away from the table.

Of course, the really sad part is that the food there is tasteless compared to the South.
 
2013-02-08 11:46:56 AM
http://www.fark.com/users/Gough :   You don't need to eat 5,000 calories at every meal.  The first exercise those people need to start is pushing away from the table.

You are 100% correct but Southern Culture is just so different from other cultures unless you start going down to Florida which has it's own culture.   Southerners in the Carolinas, Georgia, Alabama, and Arkansas area typically aren't the type that will go to a gym and workout.   Oh you may have exceptions but for the most part that is so far removed from their lives it's not really on their radar until
they wind up in the hospital with health related issues.

Lots of people in Florida work out, but that's because everyone wants to look good on the beach.

For the record, I do love the South - lots of friendly people there and yes there is racism but racism also exists in the North, East and West, Southerners are just more vilified for it because of their
background.

One interesting factoid about the South, our military is made up mostly of Southerners.   Some attribute it to the fact Southerners have a strong allegiance to the flag and fighting for what they think
is right.   I agree with that but also know how the average Southerner thinks:  "Free room and board a free gun and all the bullets I can shoot?  Hell man where do I sign up!"
 
2013-02-08 11:49:22 AM

elysive: spentmiles: Yeah, because living past 65 is so worth the sacrifice.  Starve yourself now so you can fill up on loneliness, poverty, and the ache of unfulfilled dreams.  No thanks.

The majority of 65+ people I know are shells of their former selves.  They can't compete at any physical tasks - even something as non-athletic as golf in which they move the "forward" tees up about 20 yards from the green.  They're basically mentally retarded - ... Now with so many medications pumped into their veins - basically raw stimulants and pain killers - these translucent skin farks get to wander around grocery stores looking terrified that someone might push a cart within three aisles of them.  The two things they pray for are death and the chance sighting of a baby, who will stare at them while they make funny faces, only half of which are voluntary.

Old people can be annoying, but being truly old happens when you give up and stop taking care of your body and your mind. The bonus is that most old people who take care of themselves don't typically need to live on pills and joint replacements. I guess you will be one of those people who give up early. 65 is still very young in my family.

/plans on being an old person who lives to annoy people for a long while, but at least my partner and I will have each other
//works with older people in a healthcare setting and it's amazing how a 90 year old can seem fitter or even younger than a 60 year old, simply because the 90 year old has stayed active


My great-grandmother at 95 could cook a Xmas dinner alone for 60 people while watching 5 kids. The dumbest thing she did was not get surgery to remove cataracts at 98. She was dead 3 years later because she just, the best way to put it, stopped. She couldn't see to walk, cook, crochet, do crossword puzzles, and watch her great (and in s couple of cases great-great) grandchildren anymore.
 
2013-02-08 12:27:55 PM

lc6529: Got that right, good stuff! Especially with a chilled cool bottle of RC Cola...

Damn man, now you got me wanting Fried Okra


You are now favorited as someone who loves both fried okra (my favorite fried food, next to shrimp) and RC (my favorite cola).

/Gonna make some fried okra tonight, just because I'm thinking about it now
 
2013-02-08 12:36:31 PM
As a person who just started a fat heavy form of eating known as the ketogenic diet, I'm not sure how I feel about this. I've always tried to eat a mostly healthy diet and with moderate exercise so my weight is under control; but now I'm eating food that contradicts everything my previous training has told me. I'm not a fatty, I'm on this crazy thing for another health reason that this is supposed to help with, but I just can't get over how much fat and grease I am consuming. Urg. Bacon is now considered a healthy snack. Fruit is mostly bad. Vegetables should be cooked in the leftover bacon fat. No milk, but eat all the cheese and heavy whipping cream that you want. Yeah, it's a bit more complicated but its been a week and just still not used to it.
 
2013-02-08 12:38:14 PM
http://www.fark.com/users/scottydoesntknow : /Gonna make some fried okra tonight, just because I'm thinking about it now

I wish I could make some tonight but the wife has us signed up to go out with another couple but I do plan to find me some this weekend due to this thread.

RC Cola is awesome, hard to find it in a glass bottle these days unless you happen to be in the South and you can usually find it at a 'Cracker Barrel' or some specialty store.

You can get it in the plastic bottles all the time but it just doesn't taste the same..

Kids today are missing out tasting cola made from sugar and served in a cool bottle...and they need to get off my lawn too!
 
2013-02-08 12:53:36 PM
http://www.fark.com/users/Too_many_Brians  As a person who just started a fat heavy form of eating known as the ketogenic diet,

Hey Brian, in all seriousness I started a form of that diet over a year ago.  Even though I ate healthy my weight ballooned up to nearly 300 lbs.   I was working out five times a week lifting weights, playing racquetball and I would come home DRENCHED in sweat but was still ballooning up.   I visited a Doctor and found out that my body was insulin resistant (Not diabetic) and had a hard time processing sugars.

So my diet now consists of 1-2 servings MAX of fruit per week.  1-2 veggies per day, NO bread except for 'Ezekial Bread' which is made from pressed grains, PLENTY of meat, PLENTY of nuts (except for peanuts which are processed by the body differently), NO soft drinks at all except for ONE on Friday (I hate that as I love RC Cola), in fact I only drink WATER for everything except for 1 cup of black coffee in the morning.and 8 oz of 2% fat milk at lunch with my Ezekial bread sandwich that has 2 slices of roast beef in it.

My workouts now consist of running, I started walking a mile then trying to run as far as possible without stopping and then continuing walking until I hit three miles.  I use a treadmill as I get severe pain
in my joints if I run outside.

I now RUN 6 miles per day and can do 10 miles...all running...if I have the time to spend.

After 1 year I have dropped over 70 lbs.

So that diet plan does work, it seems strange to me also but the weight has just been melting off and my cholesterol is perfect.
 
2013-02-08 01:11:23 PM
Lc6529:
yeah, I've read a lot of the keto stories on reedit, but the thing is that I'm 6'6 220lbs. I'm in shape and healthy physically, and I worry about how this will affect me since I'm not a fattyboombatty (no offense). I went into ketosis within 15 hours of fasting, so I know my body responds well to intake and output. Just looking at the stroke and colon cancer aspects.
 
2013-02-08 01:25:43 PM
Bullshiat

All four grandparents ate heavily.
More cream than coffee.
Typical breakfast - Eggs and bacon, biscuits/gravy for breakfast.
Typical lunch - two pork chop, mashed potatoes, corn on the cob/butter, bacon fat sautéed green beans, home made apple pie.
Typical dinner - steak, potatoes, macaroni/cheese, plate of fresh vegetables, fresh yeast rolls/butter. Homemade pecan pie.

All four lived deep into their 90s and were active. No arthritis, no canes or walkers. No eyesight problems, etc.
Aunts and uncles lived well into their 90s. Ate like starving soldiers.
Not a single relative was overweight, had heart trouble or high BP. All nine went in their sleep without prior problems.

However, parents a different story. Obese, died early from typical problems associated with this article. Only took one generation.

Difference?

Older relatives lived off food they grew or butchered themselves. It was real food, untouched by groceries, food marketers, pesticides, etc etc.

The difference is so remarkable it cannot be denied. Real food is not the problem. What we call "food" today is the problem.
 
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