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2013-02-08 09:44:34 AM  
You know, 30 years ago "yuppie" did not equate to wealthy.
 
2013-02-08 10:19:28 AM  
The only thing that could possibly suck more than getting accepted  by Dalton would be getting rejected by Dalton
 
2013-02-08 10:46:43 AM  
Oh no! A rich person didn't get everything they wanted!

(School loses funding in 3...2...)
 
2013-02-08 10:46:55 AM  
So, basically, a bunch of self-important snobs seeking elite status are mad that a bunch of self-important snobs that achieved that elite status exposed their non-elite status for jollies?

Something about lying down with dogs comes to mind....
 
2013-02-08 10:47:55 AM  
They're just advertising that "exclusive" is not an empty adjective, so those parents whose kids do get accepted can be sure their "donations" were well spent.

My heart bleeds for these kids, who'll still never set foot in any big-city public school.
 
2013-02-08 10:49:10 AM  
Anderson Cooper and Chevy Chase.... what an elite crowd to be in.

woo
 
2013-02-08 10:49:30 AM  
So that is why Chevy Chase is such an asshole.
 
2013-02-08 10:49:39 AM  

edmo: You know, 30 years ago "yuppie" did not equate to wealthy.


My uncle called himself a yuffie in the 70s.
Young Urban Failure
 
2013-02-08 10:49:49 AM  
Everyone involved are assholes.
 
2013-02-08 10:50:01 AM  
"The revealing e-mail went out as part of a fundraising effort to have school supporters lobby parents of recently rejected kids for money"

Yeah... good luck with that.
 
2013-02-08 10:53:11 AM  

edmo: You know, 30 years ago "yuppie" did not equate to wealthy.


Yes it did.  Maybe you're thinking of hippie?
 
2013-02-08 10:54:21 AM  
I went into this wondering how this was not a FERPA violation, but then figured out that Dalton probably doesn't get any federal money, so it does not apply.

Too bad, I'd like to see them taken down a peg for being assholes.
 
2013-02-08 10:55:39 AM  
Someone doesn't know what "yuppie" means. Yuppie = young professional. Here the term WASP would have worked better. Perhaps "ruling class," "aristocratic," etc would have been better.

Words have meaning
 
2013-02-08 10:56:17 AM  
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2013-02-08 10:58:12 AM  

ByOwlLight: edmo: You know, 30 years ago "yuppie" did not equate to wealthy.

Yes it did.  Maybe you're thinking of hippie?


No it didn't. It means young urban professional. That meant young, just starting out, educated, living in a city and with a good job. It meant on the way to wealth.

LoneVVolf: Yeah... good luck with that.


If you were planning on re-applying, or had another kid you were going to apply for, dropping a few grand or more on a donation couldn't hurt.
 
2013-02-08 10:59:43 AM  
FTA: "As a matter of practice, we do not solicit families who are in the admissions process."

...But a six figure cheque made out to cash included with your application might help us lean toward your child over that one with a five figure cheque...

Really bad form to name the rejects.
 
2013-02-08 11:00:02 AM  

LoneVVolf: "The revealing e-mail went out as part of a fundraising effort to have school supporters lobby parents of recently rejected kids for money"

Yeah... good luck with that.


Yeah... I don't get the school's logic in that.  "We rejected your kid, so give us money."  Are parents supposed to read between the lines that if they donate more money, then a spot might magically open up suddently and their kid might suddently be accepted?

Also, I love it when people tell me they went to an "elite" or "exclusive" school that I'd never heard of until they told me.

CSB: I have a coworker that went to a private school for engineering, and they were flabbergasted that I'd never heard of it.  "What do you mean you've never heard of it??  It's the number one engineering school in the country!"  Really?  That's odd, because I also went to school for engineering, and when I was reviewing the list of top engineering schools in the country, yours was not on that list.

/and i was never smart enough for one of those schools, so never went
//Go Bobcats and my mediocre BSEE from a public state university!
 
2013-02-08 11:02:47 AM  

Biness: Someone doesn't know what "yuppie" means. Yuppie = young professional. Here the term WASP would have worked better. Perhaps "ruling class," "aristocratic," etc would have been better.

Words have meaning


From Wikipedia:
"Yuppie (short for "young urban professional" or "young upwardly-mobile professional") is a term that refers to a member of the upper middle class or upper class in their 20s and 30s."

The upper middle to upper class part of is kind of important.

And if you don't trust Wiki, dictionary.com:

"a young, ambitious, and well-educated city-dweller who has a professional career and an affluent lifestyle."

/Sorry, I'm all for nailing people for using a term incorrectly, but it's a pet peeve of mine when people do the nailing part incorrectly themselves.
//Because words do, in fact, have meaning.
 
2013-02-08 11:04:22 AM  
i'm kinda glad i left boarding school in high school to come back home to my ghetto high school.  i can now easily spot douchebags who run their mouth and have never been punched in the face.  everyone needs to learn that lesson at some point.
 
2013-02-08 11:22:31 AM  
We hear some parents are weighing legal action against the school but are hesitant because once a suit goes public, "It would be known that their kid didn't get into Dalton," said a parent.

Farking rich people and their rich-people problems. Such a sad tale.
 
2013-02-08 11:25:05 AM  
Each and every person involved with this is forbidden to suck my d1ck...except Claire Danes.

First-world problems.
 
2013-02-08 11:29:05 AM  

edmo: You know, 30 years ago "yuppie" did not equate to wealthy.


I think you are thinking of "yippie", which is the radical leftist party founded in NYC in the 1960's and 70's. It's like the urban version  "hippie".
 
2013-02-08 11:32:52 AM  

edmo: You know, 30 years ago "yuppie" did not equate to wealthy.


The people who were twenty-something yuppies 30 years ago are the same people who are fifty-something multimillionaires now, trying to get their children into expensive private high schools that nobody outside of their social circle is impressed by, including the admissions boards at Harvard and Yale.
 
2013-02-08 11:33:30 AM  
Two words: Selection Bias.  Small Snob Prick schools can say that they are excellent teachers because their alumni go on to do such great things while public school kids, with their inferior public school teachers, wait tables.  This is an easy lie to perpetuate.  Never accept any trouble maker, or any kid from a poor home where the choice is between books and food, or any incurious or studious student, or anyone who could possibly be difficult at all to teach and you will look like you shiat gold as a teacher.  EVEN IF YOU ARE JUST AN OVER PAID, EGO INFLATED, QUICK TO DISCIPLINE JERKOFF.

My kid goes to a public school because that is where he will get an education that will actually SERVE him.  He, in his life, will have to deal with people who are not carbon copies of himself and will be taught to deal with that.  And along the way, he will also run across some excellent teachers as well as have me sitting next to him when he can't figure out his homework.  THAT is excellence in education.
 
2013-02-08 11:36:21 AM  

Biness: Someone doesn't know what "yuppie" means. Yuppie = young professional. Here the term WASP would have worked better. Perhaps "ruling class," "aristocratic," etc would have been better.

Words have meaning


Actually, it's "young urban professional."
 
2013-02-08 11:41:01 AM  

edmo: You know, 30 years ago "yuppie" did not equate to wealthy.


Yes, it did.

(Y)oung (U)ppwardly mobile (P)rofessional

Sounds like it always implied wealthy to me.
 
2013-02-08 11:43:13 AM  
Oops, (U)rban. My bad.
 
2013-02-08 11:45:25 AM  
I hate everyone involved, but the school might have a problem here.

They have already publicly stated that the purpose of the release was to raise money and communicating the failure of a 3rd person - in a way that might denigrate - for the purpose of gaining revenue is a decent platform to sue for deliberate infliction of emotional distress. Elite schools generally release numbers only - like Harvard might claim that they only except 5% of those applying, but they never list a bunch of names that they turned down. Someone at this school is dumb. I think that the whole thing is stupid, but this means something to the people in the community.
 
2013-02-08 11:45:32 AM  

Mangoose: ByOwlLight: edmo: You know, 30 years ago "yuppie" did not equate to wealthy.

Yes it did.  Maybe you're thinking of hippie?

No it didn't. It means young urban professional. That meant young, just starting out, educated, living in a city and with a good job. It meant on the way to wealth.

LoneVVolf: Yeah... good luck with that.

If you were planning on re-applying, or had another kid you were going to apply for, dropping a few grand or more on a donation couldn't hurt.


I guess that was the motivation behind it.  Though to be honest, if my kid was rejected from a school and they had the audacity to hit me up for donations, that school IS DEAD TO ME and they can EABOD and DIAF.
 
2013-02-08 11:57:44 AM  
To their credit, even the snobby alumni appear to realize that this was a supremely stupid thing to do. Good luck with somehow making this go away though!

/public school education
//still somehow manage to muddle through
 
2013-02-08 12:01:42 PM  
Nuff said:
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2013-02-08 12:17:00 PM  
So the admissions office released a list of who was accepted and who was rejected (because that's classy)

They did this in hopes of spamming rejected families into giving them money (because you saved so much on tuition and we're just that awesome, right?)

Families on the rejected list are angry but reluctant to sue because then people would (gasp!) know they were rejected from Dalton and forced to go to less prestigious private schools (I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the closest these kids would get to a public school is speeding past them with the windows rolled up)

and then there's this:

"The embarrassing e-mail has alumni seething. "It's ridiculous," exclaimed one. "This is a breach of confidentiality. The bottom line is admissions should never tell any outsiders anything."

I kind of want to set everyone involved on fire.
 
2013-02-08 12:22:28 PM  

TheRameres: LoneVVolf: "The revealing e-mail went out as part of a fundraising effort to have school supporters lobby parents of recently rejected kids for money"

Yeah... good luck with that.

Yeah... I don't get the school's logic in that.  "We rejected your kid, so give us money."  Are parents supposed to read between the lines that if they donate more money, then a spot might magically open up suddently and their kid might suddently be accepted?

Also, I love it when people tell me they went to an "elite" or "exclusive" school that I'd never heard of until they told me.

CSB: I have a coworker that went to a private school for engineering, and they were flabbergasted that I'd never heard of it.  "What do you mean you've never heard of it??  It's the number one engineering school in the country!"  Really?  That's odd, because I also went to school for engineering, and when I was reviewing the list of top engineering schools in the country, yours was not on that list.

/and i was never smart enough for one of those schools, so never went
//Go Bobcats and my mediocre BSEE from a public state university!


Did your coworker go to Rose-Hulman by any chance?
 
GBB
2013-02-08 12:37:22 PM  
Just to troll Dalton, someone should make a huge anonymous pledge with an expected delivery after the selection process ends.  Then, when they announce their selections, recind the pledge and watch them scramble to figure out which reject the pledge was 'attached' to.
 
GBB
2013-02-08 12:40:50 PM  

TheRameres: Yeah... I don't get the school's logic in that.  "We rejected your kid, so give us money."  Are parents supposed to read between the lines that if they donate more money, then a spot might magically open up suddently and their kid might suddently be accepted?



I'd say they should turn back to the school and say, "You rejected my kid? ok. I hope nothing bad happens to your school" in their best Tony Soprano voice. Let them read between them lines.
 
2013-02-08 01:35:43 PM  

Nuclear Monk: TheRameres: LoneVVolf: "The revealing e-mail went out as part of a fundraising effort to have school supporters lobby parents of recently rejected kids for money"

Yeah... good luck with that.

Yeah... I don't get the school's logic in that.  "We rejected your kid, so give us money."  Are parents supposed to read between the lines that if they donate more money, then a spot might magically open up suddently and their kid might suddently be accepted?

Also, I love it when people tell me they went to an "elite" or "exclusive" school that I'd never heard of until they told me.

CSB: I have a coworker that went to a private school for engineering, and they were flabbergasted that I'd never heard of it.  "What do you mean you've never heard of it??  It's the number one engineering school in the country!"  Really?  That's odd, because I also went to school for engineering, and when I was reviewing the list of top engineering schools in the country, yours was not on that list.

/and i was never smart enough for one of those schools, so never went
//Go Bobcats and my mediocre BSEE from a public state university!

Did your coworker go to Rose-Hulman by any chance?


Yep - apparently they are the top engineering undergraduate school without a graduate program.  When I was looking at schools (15+ years ago), I think the most popular ranking was US Weekly's list, which didn't break it down to that category.  I guess it's a really good school; just not as well-known as something like MIT (which I think is #1 school for engineering with a graduate program).
 
2013-02-08 01:41:36 PM  
I wouldn't be embarrassed for my kids being rejected, more like whew, they won't be getting my money.  Now being turned down by a public school would REALLY be embarrassing.  Or a community college for that matter.
 
2013-02-08 01:46:36 PM  

Dheiner: edmo: You know, 30 years ago "yuppie" did not equate to wealthy.

Yes, it did.

(Y)oung (U)ppwardly mobile (P)rofessional

Sounds like it always implied wealthy to me.


Lol yumpie.
 
2013-02-08 01:54:47 PM  

lack of warmth: I wouldn't be embarrassed for my kids being rejected


Nobody sends their kid to a school like that because the academics are actually that much better than the next best couple of options. It's all about image, and getting rejected is bad for it.
 
2013-02-08 02:02:13 PM  
FTFA: "The revealing e-mail went out as part of a fundraising effort to have school supporters lobby parents of recently rejected kids for money, sources say."

That sounds like the best plan ever. How could it possibly fail?

No wonder this school is considered elite. With PR geniuses like this running it, your kid is totally in good hands.
 
2013-02-08 02:47:07 PM  

Nuclear Monk: TheRameres: LoneVVolf: "The revealing e-mail went out as part of a fundraising effort to have school supporters lobby parents of recently rejected kids for money"

Yeah... good luck with that.

Yeah... I don't get the school's logic in that.  "We rejected your kid, so give us money."  Are parents supposed to read between the lines that if they donate more money, then a spot might magically open up suddently and their kid might suddently be accepted?

Also, I love it when people tell me they went to an "elite" or "exclusive" school that I'd never heard of until they told me.

CSB: I have a coworker that went to a private school for engineering, and they were flabbergasted that I'd never heard of it.  "What do you mean you've never heard of it??  It's the number one engineering school in the country!"  Really?  That's odd, because I also went to school for engineering, and when I was reviewing the list of top engineering schools in the country, yours was not on that list.

/and i was never smart enough for one of those schools, so never went
//Go Bobcats and my mediocre BSEE from a public state university!

Did your coworker go to Rose-Hulman by any chance?


I was going to say the exact same thing. I  In Southern Indiana they think that is a badge of distinction to get accepted to Rose Hulman or DePauw...Overpriced private colleges that no one has ever heard of.
 
2013-02-08 04:01:42 PM  
I remember in college a professor was proud of the fact that most of his students failed his course. After the first class I told him I was dropping his course because a block of wood was teaching a similar course down the hall and I was sure everyone in that class would fail and so it must be a better teacher than him.

Elitists are uniformly stupid and a waste of time.
 
2013-02-08 05:19:49 PM  

buzzcut73: I went into this wondering how this was not a FERPA violation, but then figured out that Dalton probably doesn't get any federal money, so it does not apply.

Too bad, I'd like to see them taken down a peg for being assholes.


Even so, I doubt publishing information on applicants like this is legal.
 
2013-02-08 05:57:01 PM  

TheRameres: Nuclear Monk: TheRameres: LoneVVolf: "The revealing e-mail went out as part of a fundraising effort to have school supporters lobby parents of recently rejected kids for money"

Yeah... good luck with that.

Yeah... I don't get the school's logic in that.  "We rejected your kid, so give us money."  Are parents supposed to read between the lines that if they donate more money, then a spot might magically open up suddently and their kid might suddently be accepted?

Also, I love it when people tell me they went to an "elite" or "exclusive" school that I'd never heard of until they told me.

CSB: I have a coworker that went to a private school for engineering, and they were flabbergasted that I'd never heard of it.  "What do you mean you've never heard of it??  It's the number one engineering school in the country!"  Really?  That's odd, because I also went to school for engineering, and when I was reviewing the list of top engineering schools in the country, yours was not on that list.

/and i was never smart enough for one of those schools, so never went
//Go Bobcats and my mediocre BSEE from a public state university!

Did your coworker go to Rose-Hulman by any chance?

Yep - apparently they are the top engineering undergraduate school without a graduate program.  When I was looking at schools (15+ years ago), I think the most popular ranking was US Weekly's list, which didn't break it down to that category.  I guess it's a really good school; just not as well-known as something like MIT (which I think is #1 school for engineering with a graduate program).


Hah! knew it.  We get the occasional intern from there...and they always point out it's the top engineering school, but I swear no one outside of Indiana has heard of it.
 
2013-02-08 06:34:00 PM  
They had a question on yesterday's episode of Jeopardy about The Dalton School. They wanted to know which borough it was in. I'd never heard of it before yesterday. I guess I'm not elite enough for them.
 
2013-02-09 01:12:57 AM  

chairmenmeow47: i'm kinda glad i left boarding school in high school to come back home to my ghetto high school.  i can now easily spot douchebags who run their mouth and have never been punched in the face.  everyone needs to learn that lesson at some point.


Yeah I'm pretty sure a place like Dalton is about education, it's more about access and connections that will develop  Whether that is worth more than being properly educated, I can't really say.
 
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