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(KFOR Oklahoma City)   Oklahoma City judge in an effort to stomp out crime, has 59 year old grandmother arrested. Fark: for a ticket from 2001 for not securing her dog. Ultrafark: A dog she never owned   (kfor.com ) divider line
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2013-02-08 07:51:52 AM  
3 votes:

EliminateNinniesAndTwits: I thought that was one reason there is a statute of limitations.  Maybe she had
a horrible attitude in court and the judge found it necessary to put her in her
place or something.


The statute of limitations defines how long you can wait before  charging someone with a crime.

If someone is  convicted of a crime, say, because they missed their court date, then refused to answer any of the 3141597 mailings the court sends you when you miss a court date, and were found automatically guilty in absentia because that's what happens when you repeatedly skip on hearings/trials, then there is no statute of limitations on  punishment for the crime of which they've already been  convicted.

Also, if you skip your court date and then wait  over a decade to respond, you can't protest that you're innocent, because there are time limitations on  appeals as well.  For basically the same reason, testimony and evidence becomes unreliable after a while, except since the conviction's on record the onus for doing things within time is now on the person that was convicted.  Lawyers in murder trials have to file appeals before deadlines, too, it's not restricted to small-time stuff like this.
2013-02-09 07:46:52 AM  
1 vote:
Sounds like Bob Macy is DA again.
2013-02-09 12:12:57 AM  
1 vote:

rezaxis: Justice is blind, and carries a Tazer.


To be fair, she sounds black.  It's Oklahoma after all.

/my calling: killing the joke by stating the bleeding obvious.
2013-02-08 10:56:32 AM  
1 vote:

Dictatorial_Flair: Apparently, not being an ignorant asshole is not a requirement to be a judge in Oklahoma.


Not being one is disqualifying.
2013-02-08 10:51:33 AM  
1 vote:
Apparently, not being an ignorant asshole is not a requirement to be a judge in Oklahoma.
2013-02-08 09:53:49 AM  
1 vote:

strangeluck: Jim_Callahan: EliminateNinniesAndTwits: I thought that was one reason there is a statute of limitations.  Maybe she had
a horrible attitude in court and the judge found it necessary to put her in her
place or something.

The statute of limitations defines how long you can wait before  charging someone with a crime.

If someone is  convicted of a crime, say, because they missed their court date, then refused to answer any of the 3141597 mailings the court sends you when you miss a court date, and were found automatically guilty in absentia because that's what happens when you repeatedly skip on hearings/trials, then there is no statute of limitations on  punishment for the crime of which they've already been  convicted.

Also, if you skip your court date and then wait  over a decade to respond, you can't protest that you're innocent, because there are time limitations on  appeals as well.  For basically the same reason, testimony and evidence becomes unreliable after a while, except since the conviction's on record the onus for doing things within time is now on the person that was convicted.  Lawyers in murder trials have to file appeals before deadlines, too, it's not restricted to small-time stuff like this.

That's information missing from the story, no mention if she got any failure to appear notices or any notifications.

Actually, doesn't even say if she was literally given the ticket 11 years a go, someone wrote one and it mentions she didn't sign it.

Refused to sign or the animal control guy never actually talked to her in the first place, just wrote a ticket.

/hmmm


My thought too.  I think someone else's dog wondered by and neighbor who was too bothered to get the sand out, called it in.  When the animal control came by, no dog, no one home and went by sandy crotch's story.  I think the city should be forced to prove she was ever delivered the ticket.

zerostatik: Came to say this. Even if the charge is total bullshiat show up. Not showing up is an automatic admission of guilt in the eyes of the court. This all sucks for her but law is the law. Move along citizens


I was once found guilty for not showing up for jury duty.  I moved out of SC in April, in Sept. of that year they "called" me to jury duty with no notice going to my old address(my parents still lived there), they issued an arrest warrant and in Nov. my parents got the first word about any of it.  They never got any notice of jury duty or court hearings for me.  Now, am I still guilty?  I look at it as SC wants to make sure I don't return.
2013-02-08 09:48:20 AM  
1 vote:

zerostatik: Came to say this. Even if the charge is total bullshiat show up. Not showing up is an automatic admission of guilt in the eyes of the court. This all sucks for her but law is the law. Move along citizens


There's no record she received the ticket, there's no incident report, the ticket writer is gone, the neighbor's description does not match her dog.  This will get tossed.
2013-02-08 09:12:03 AM  
1 vote:

MN8: She had a pomerianian(sp) and not a sheit shiu(sp). They look enough alike I couldn't tell the difference.


Pomeranian:

www.cutepuppiesforsale.net

Shih tzu:

images.akc.org
If you can't tell the difference....
2013-02-08 08:22:14 AM  
1 vote:

Jim_Callahan: EliminateNinniesAndTwits: I thought that was one reason there is a statute of limitations.  Maybe she had
a horrible attitude in court and the judge found it necessary to put her in her
place or something.

The statute of limitations defines how long you can wait before  charging someone with a crime.

If someone is  convicted of a crime, say, because they missed their court date, then refused to answer any of the 3141597 mailings the court sends you when you miss a court date, and were found automatically guilty in absentia because that's what happens when you repeatedly skip on hearings/trials, then there is no statute of limitations on  punishment for the crime of which they've already been  convicted.

Also, if you skip your court date and then wait  over a decade to respond, you can't protest that you're innocent, because there are time limitations on  appeals as well.  For basically the same reason, testimony and evidence becomes unreliable after a while, except since the conviction's on record the onus for doing things within time is now on the person that was convicted.  Lawyers in murder trials have to file appeals before deadlines, too, it's not restricted to small-time stuff like this.


That's information missing from the story, no mention if she got any failure to appear notices or any notifications.

Actually, doesn't even say if she was literally given the ticket 11 years a go, someone wrote one and it mentions she didn't sign it.

Refused to sign or the animal control guy never actually talked to her in the first place, just wrote a ticket.

/hmmm
2013-02-08 08:15:59 AM  
1 vote:
they ran this story over and over.  they made it sound like she got in trouble for a mis-pronunciation of the dog's breed.  And yes there are folks here in the sooner state ignorant enough to think you are cursing them saying that particular breed of dog.
2013-02-08 07:39:57 AM  
1 vote:
To be fair, she wasn't arrested for the dog ticket. She was arrested for neither paying the ticket nor showing up to court to fight it. You cannot just ignore tickets and hope they go away. The judge gave her the opportunity to pay the amount of the ticket from 11 years ago with no other penalty for the lengthy delay, but she apparently refused.
2013-02-08 07:33:54 AM  
1 vote:
She never owned the dog?  They need to charge her with false ownership of a dog!!!!  And also throw in getting arrested on false charges.  They need to put a needle into her veins now.
2013-02-08 07:33:53 AM  
1 vote:

Hugo Zorilla: Execution. That's the only way she'll learn.


Nah thats to formal and takes too long citizen, drone strike.
2013-02-08 07:31:39 AM  
1 vote:
I thought that was one reason there is a statute of limitations.  Maybe she had
a horrible attitude in court and the judge found it necessary to put her in her
place or something.
2013-02-08 07:25:45 AM  
1 vote:
Betting there's a fine attached.  And court fees.  And an additional fine for not having paid the first fine for the dog she doesn't own.  And a fine for contempt of court for not acceding to the courts judgement and paying the first fine for the dog she doesn't own.
 
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