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(AZ Family)   Even though the poor plants stand there silently with their arms up, people still go out into the Arizona desert and use saguaro cacti for target practice   (azfamily.com) divider line 120
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2013-02-08 01:09:26 AM
A few years back, one of them cactii got shot and fell on the shooter, killing him.  It's a slow, but real, process.
 
2013-02-08 01:26:16 AM
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There are assholes out there.. In this case I guess shooting the sign is acknowledging that you read it.
 
2013-02-08 02:55:57 AM

Atypical Person Reading Fark: A few years back, one of them cactii got shot and fell on the shooter, killing him.  It's a slow, but real, process.


That would be David Grundman
 
2013-02-08 07:56:41 AM
"Why are you shooting him?? He's trying to surrender!"
 
2013-02-08 07:57:48 AM
I lived there a long time and found that Arizona shooters seem to be a lower life form. They shoot up more stuff and leave trash everywhere. The desert feels like a big trash pit to them so they treat it that way.

I  just don't see that here in the Midwest. People are a lot better about picking up after themselves and preserving nature.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2013-02-08 08:08:00 AM

edmo: They shoot up more stuff and leave trash everywhere.


They're being very cool to future anthropologists, though.
 
2013-02-08 08:15:41 AM

SmackLT: "Why are you shooting him?? He's trying to surrender!"


www.patriotresource.com

Maybe.  Now we will never know.
\
 
2013-02-08 08:18:12 AM
www.patriotresource.com

I say we shoot the cactus, drink the wine, and use the papers for musket wadding.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2013-02-08 08:20:29 AM
Who went out there and spooked all those cacti in the first place?
 
2013-02-08 08:51:33 AM
The complaints of this couple sound like the complaints of people who buy a home near the airport.
 
2013-02-08 08:54:37 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The complaints of this couple sound like the complaints of people who buy a home near the airport.


except for this little bit of info:

Lynn and George Martin are third generation ranchers near the town of Superior, east of the Valley.
 
2013-02-08 08:57:04 AM
The NRA wants you to know if the cacti had guns, these sorts of shenanigans would never occur.

Amused at the idea that some Arizona nimrod drags his cannon out there and blasts away a bunch of cacti and scorpions.  Whatta manly man!
 
2013-02-08 08:57:07 AM
Arizona ... the other Florida
 
2013-02-08 08:58:02 AM
Road trip!
 
2013-02-08 08:59:18 AM
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2013-02-08 08:59:55 AM
Dipsticks.
May they step on a sidewinder.
 
2013-02-08 09:00:13 AM
Why don't the cactii just go hide on page 10?
 
2013-02-08 09:00:49 AM
Lazy and rude target practice shooters are one of my pet peaves, too.  Could it be we need to arm the illegal river-swimmers and hire them to be the politeness police?  It could be win-win all around.
 
2013-02-08 09:01:45 AM

Egoy3k: AverageAmericanGuy: The complaints of this couple sound like the complaints of people who buy a home near the airport.

except for this little bit of info:

Lynn and George Martin are third generation ranchers near the town of Superior, east of the Valley.


Well, that and its not illegal for planes to take off and land at an airport.

This is why laws, regulations, and restrictions are put in place. People are assholes.
 
2013-02-08 09:06:16 AM

Philbb: Atypical Person Reading Fark: A few years back, one of them cactii got shot and fell on the shooter, killing him.  It's a slow, but real, process.

That would be David Grundman


They say that his last words were "Timmberrrrr...."
 
2013-02-08 09:06:42 AM
So what? Who the fark cares about cacti? If you're a responsible shooter who cleans up after himself and endanger no one...so farking what?
 
2013-02-08 09:07:25 AM
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Little bastards deserve it.
 
2013-02-08 09:08:51 AM

Kit Fister: So what? Who the fark cares about cacti? If you're a responsible shooter who cleans up after himself and endanger no one...so farking what?


Really?
0/10
 
2013-02-08 09:09:55 AM

433: Who went out there and spooked all those cacti in the first place?


I know, right? I saw a bunch of cacti stampede once. Not a pretty sight, my friend.
 
2013-02-08 09:10:39 AM

Prey4reign: The NRA wants you to know if the cacti had guns, these sorts of shenanigans would never occur.

Amused at the idea that some Arizona nimrod drags his cannon out there and blasts away a bunch of cacti and scorpions.  Whatta manly man!


If they used a cannon, the cacti wouldn't still be standing.  Trust me, I know what a cannon can do.  I own and shoot one.
 
2013-02-08 09:11:15 AM

Click Click D'oh: [images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 360x405]

Little bastards deserve it.


Swastika pickle.
 
2013-02-08 09:14:46 AM
OMG, those poor cacti! This just pushes them that much closer to extinction. There are hardly any left.

www.planetware.com
 
2013-02-08 09:16:21 AM

Click Click D'oh: [images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 360x405]

Little bastards deserve it.


they were great if you had an esper equipped.
/thank you for reminding me of what an uber-virgin i was when i was a teenager. i pray they re-make this game
 
2013-02-08 09:18:11 AM
Assholes.  Use metal targets, they give a satisfying "ding" when hit and don't take 100 years to grow.
 
2013-02-08 09:20:15 AM

edmo: I lived there a long time and found that Arizona shooters seem to be a lower life form. They shoot up more stuff and leave trash everywhere. The desert feels like a big trash pit to them so they treat it that way.

I  just don't see that here in the Midwest. People are a lot better about picking up after themselves and preserving nature.


thats just because the midwesterners eat everything in sight and dont leave trash.
 
2013-02-08 09:20:36 AM
FTFA: TONTO NATIONAL FOREST, Ariz

www.bluecorncomics.com

Frowns on your shenanigans.

/Seriously?  Tonto National Forest?  That's racist.
 
2013-02-08 09:21:56 AM

dittybopper: Prey4reign: The NRA wants you to know if the cacti had guns, these sorts of shenanigans would never occur.

Amused at the idea that some Arizona nimrod drags his cannon out there and blasts away a bunch of cacti and scorpions.  Whatta manly man!

If they used a cannon, the cacti wouldn't still be standing.  Trust me, I know what a cannon can do.  I own and shoot one.


13 Bravo 40
 
2013-02-08 09:25:12 AM
I've also got a pet peeve with shooters leaving crap everywhere. They even leave targets stapled to the trees. But there is an up side to the economic depression: everyone now picks up their brass.

/brass patrol!
 
2013-02-08 09:28:25 AM

vudukungfu: Kit Fister: So what? Who the fark cares about cacti? If you're a responsible shooter who cleans up after himself and endanger no one...so farking what?

Really?
0/10


Ok, I'll reply to the troll. Shooting anything endangered is an asshole move, other people want to see it too, and everyone else would prefer you shoot yourself, as you aren't endangered; the world is full of dicks. Secondly a bullet fired into a cactus is unlikely to stay in the cactus, assuming you even hit the cactus, so yeah it's hardly not dangerous. To others. (Again, feel free to hurt yourself at will)
 
2013-02-08 09:32:49 AM

stuhayes2010: Assholes.  Use metal targets, they give a satisfying "ding" when hit and don't take 100 years to grow.


And pack out your shells and trash. And those biodegradable clay pigeons still take years to degrade, clean them up. I always end up packing out other peoples trash and it pisses me off.
 
2013-02-08 09:33:52 AM

dittybopper: Prey4reign: The NRA wants you to know if the cacti had guns, these sorts of shenanigans would never occur.

Amused at the idea that some Arizona nimrod drags his cannon out there and blasts away a bunch of cacti and scorpions.  Whatta manly man!

If they used a cannon, the cacti wouldn't still be standing.  Trust me, I know what a cannon can do.  I own and shoot one.


Do you search around the Internet and say "here's a thread that's gun related! I can mention my cannon!"

That sounds like a criticism, but it is not. I'm just saying that if I had a cannon, that's what I would do.
 
2013-02-08 09:35:31 AM
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2013-02-08 09:35:55 AM

edmo: I lived there a long time and found that Arizona shooters seem to be a lower life form. They shoot up more stuff and leave trash everywhere. The desert feels like a big trash pit to them so they treat it that way.

I  just don't see that here in the Midwest. People are a lot better about picking up after themselves and preserving nature.


I think that comes from the fact that it's legal to shoot in the open desert (not on national forest land) - which leaves great tracts of open land on which to shoot.  People seem to feel that it's a big desert and their crap really doesn't matter.
 
2013-02-08 09:37:12 AM

vudukungfu: Kit Fister: So what? Who the fark cares about cacti? If you're a responsible shooter who cleans up after himself and endanger no one...so farking what?

Really?
0/10


Yes, really. Honestly. I'm sorry, but I don't see what the hell the problem is. Granted, it's nicer to the environment to put up a target on a man-made stand than to just shoot at the shrubbery, but...it's a plant.
 
2013-02-08 09:42:20 AM

Kit Fister: So what? Who the fark cares about cacti? If you're a responsible shooter who cleans up after himself and endanger no one...so farking what?


Did you read the article? That's not what is happening here and shooting indiscriminately close to someones home doesn't sound very responsible to me. In fact it sounds downright dangerous. Are you implying that the rights of the property owners who have lived there for generations is outweighed by Bubba and the boys getting their rocks of and destroying the natural landscape?

This is where the pro gun side of the debate veers off the path of rationality. Your right to play with your boomsticks in no way justifies destroying nature and negatively impacting the lives others. You want guns? Fine. Don't be an asshole about it.
 
2013-02-08 09:42:48 AM

Alex Broughton Butt Chugger: vudukungfu: Kit Fister: So what? Who the fark cares about cacti? If you're a responsible shooter who cleans up after himself and endanger no one...so farking what?

Really?
0/10

Ok, I'll reply to the troll. Shooting anything endangered is an asshole move, other people want to see it too, and everyone else would prefer you shoot yourself, as you aren't endangered; the world is full of dicks. Secondly a bullet fired into a cactus is unlikely to stay in the cactus, assuming you even hit the cactus, so yeah it's hardly not dangerous. To others. (Again, feel free to hurt yourself at will)


Alright, I'll give you the endangered part (i'm sorry, I didn't know that cacti were endangered).

However, if you're out away from civilization, and over 1500 yards from anyone, the bullet's not going to go far enough to hurt anyone that's out there. Within 1500 yards, you should be able to spot people that are down-range and stop shooting, as is part of the rules of knowing your target and what is beyond.

In Colorado, we would go out into the Pawnee national grasslands, miles away from anyone, and shoot a lot. There were only so many access points, so it wasn't easy to get in front of other active shooters.
 
2013-02-08 09:44:03 AM

here to help: Kit Fister: So what? Who the fark cares about cacti? If you're a responsible shooter who cleans up after himself and endanger no one...so farking what?

Did you read the article? That's not what is happening here and shooting indiscriminately close to someones home doesn't sound very responsible to me. In fact it sounds downright dangerous. Are you implying that the rights of the property owners who have lived there for generations is outweighed by Bubba and the boys getting their rocks of and destroying the natural landscape?

This is where the pro gun side of the debate veers off the path of rationality. Your right to play with your boomsticks in no way justifies destroying nature and negatively impacting the lives others. You want guns? Fine. Don't be an asshole about it.


Ah, okay, yeah, don't shoot close to someone's house.  That's a dick move.

But "destroying nature" is kind of a chicken littleism, isn't it? We don't "destroy nature".
 
2013-02-08 09:44:10 AM

walkerhound: FTFA: TONTO NATIONAL FOREST, Ariz


www.bluecorncomics.comencrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
When did Tonto join the Stones?
 
2013-02-08 09:47:57 AM

Kit Fister: Within 1500 yards, you should be able to spot people that are down-range and stop shooting, as is part of the rules of knowing your target and what is beyond.


And you trust the mouth breathers who drag appliances out into the middle of the desert to shoot them and them leave them to rust to have the respect and common sense to make sure they aren't gonna send a bullet flying through someone's window? These ranchers seem to think these people are shooting close enough to their property to be concerned about it. I'd say their right to enjoy their land in peace trumps the right of the clowns turning the area into a dump. They should go to a range or go further out into the desert. They also shouldn't leave their damned garbage laying around.
 
2013-02-08 09:51:23 AM

Kit Fister: Ah, okay, yeah, don't shoot close to someone's house. That's a dick move.

But "destroying nature" is kind of a chicken littleism, isn't it? We don't "destroy nature".


Well I'm glad you haven't gone off the deep end as you are one of the more rational ones. As far as shooting up the cacti they are part of the local eco system and really a shot up cactus isn't nearly as pretty as one that's intact. If they want to go out and shoot that's fine by me but get away from peoples property, bring your own targets and then clean up your mess after you're done. That seems to be all these people are asking for and I think that is perfectly reasonable.

Cheers.
 
2013-02-08 09:53:40 AM

Alex Broughton Butt Chugger: Secondly a bullet fired into a cactus is unlikely to stay in the cactus


Or likely to hit something living in it. And will leave lead for those that eat it. etc etc.
If you want to shoot a living thing, as ABBC says, shoot yourself.
Please.

*buys ABBC a beer*
 
2013-02-08 09:55:30 AM

here to help: You want guns? Fine. Don't be an asshole about it.


It's just like sex and religion.
Also, don't bring it up at the dinner table.
 
2013-02-08 09:57:13 AM
farking sandbillies. their own best argument for gun control. I hate these assholes so goddamn much
 
2013-02-08 10:00:09 AM

MonkeyDavid: dittybopper: Prey4reign: The NRA wants you to know if the cacti had guns, these sorts of shenanigans would never occur.

Amused at the idea that some Arizona nimrod drags his cannon out there and blasts away a bunch of cacti and scorpions.  Whatta manly man!

If they used a cannon, the cacti wouldn't still be standing.  Trust me, I know what a cannon can do.  I own and shoot one.

Do you search around the Internet and say "here's a thread that's gun related! I can mention my cannon!"

That sounds like a criticism, but it is not. I'm just saying that if I had a cannon, that's what I would do.


Could be worse.  I could have posted a picture.
 
2013-02-08 10:01:28 AM

vudukungfu: Alex Broughton Butt Chugger: Secondly a bullet fired into a cactus is unlikely to stay in the cactus

Or likely to hit something living in it. And will leave lead for those that eat it. etc etc.
If you want to shoot a living thing, as ABBC says, shoot yourself.
Please.

*buys ABBC a beer*


Funny thing, hunters do more for the ecosystem by providing population control and supporting conservation efforts.

I agree, don't shoot at the cactus if you have a target stand. But the amount of lead that's left behind from incidental shooting isn't enough that suddenly birds and animals are going to be gobbling it up left and right, so as to induce a biohazard with lead levels.
 
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