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(Hampton Roads)   Virginia wants to make "dooring" bicyclists illegal. Subby has always heard it referred as "door-checking"   (hamptonroads.com) divider line 156
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2013-02-08 12:18:01 AM
You'd think that would already qualify as criminal recklessness of some sort.
 
2013-02-08 12:22:24 AM
I've always heard it referred to as assault or assault with a deadly weapon.
 
2013-02-08 12:34:47 AM
A violation would carry a $100 civil penalty.

Worth it.
 
2013-02-08 12:36:44 AM
It's only assault if you mean to hit someone. The actual article is more about opening your door without making sure it's safe to do so.
 
2013-02-08 01:47:49 AM
mojoimage.com


"What's happening, Luther?"


/not a bicycle, but still funny
 
2013-02-08 02:25:56 AM
I would think "dooring" fits under "unsafe operation of a motor vehicle."
 
2013-02-08 02:29:00 AM

EatenTheSun: A violation would carry a $100 civil penalty.

Worth it.


Seriously. I would have never considered doing this as I thought it would result in criminal charges... but $100 fine? That makes it tempting.
 
2013-02-08 03:22:06 AM
In Portlandia, you do that to a Cyclist, the rest of their pack will have you strung up from the nearest Starbucks sign in minutes.
 
2013-02-08 06:34:33 AM
They should give out $100 bonuses for every pretentious bicycling hipster snob that gets door'd.  Sorry, but you do NOT own the lane and the entire road around it.
 
2013-02-08 06:34:42 AM

MmmmBacon: In Portlandia, you do that to a Cyclist, the rest of their pack will have you strung up from the nearest Starbucks sign in minutes.


I was engaging in angry mob justice before it was cool.
 
2013-02-08 06:37:20 AM

djones101: They should give out $100 bonuses for every pretentious bicycling hipster snob that gets door'd.  Sorry, but you do NOT own the lane and the entire road around it.


Hey, hey, everyone!  This guy is EDGY /and/ COOL.  Acknowledge him!
 
2013-02-08 06:37:24 AM
When I was a cycle courier, it was called "the door prize".

CSB: Saw someone opening a door without a mirror check, right in front of me, and instead of veering out into traffic, I veered into their exiting left leg.

It sounds like celery being snapped inside a towel. The bone, not the screaming.

/CSB.
//I clip the occasional texting jaywalker, too. People think evolution is passive. It's not.
 
2013-02-08 06:37:39 AM
Yay. Another 'dick cyclist/motorist' thread.
 
2013-02-08 06:38:00 AM

Vodka Zombie: I've always heard it referred to as assault or assault with a deadly weapon.


Really? I always heard that you should be careful when riding your bicycle and follow the rules of the road.
 
2013-02-08 06:38:01 AM
This ain't the end of dooring. Beautiful friend.
No safety or surprise, the end.
 
2013-02-08 06:38:49 AM

MmmmBacon: In Portlandia, you do that to a Cyclist, the rest of their pack will have you strung up from the nearest Starbucks sign in minutes.


My adventures with Portlandia bikers, summed:

"Cars suck!"
"Yeah, cars suck! They should be outlawed!"
"Bikers rule"
"Yeah! Cars suck! Air-polluting energy wasters for lazy bastards!"

"Um, By the way, I'm moving next week. Does anyone have a truck I can borrow?"
"Yeah, and, uh, I need some help getting groceries and a few things from the hardware store. Can somebody give me a ride?"
 
2013-02-08 06:39:43 AM

Norad: Yay. Another 'dick cyclist/motorist' thread.

 
2013-02-08 06:39:47 AM
but what's the fine for damaging my poor car door?
 
2013-02-08 06:40:34 AM
I avoid riding in places with parallel parked cars as much as I can, but when I do, I'm constantly on the lookout for people in the cars.

So I'll probably be killed by a short blue hair in a big ol Cadillac, one of these days.
 
2013-02-08 06:40:34 AM
Seems like a lot of trouble to carry a whole door around just for smacking cyclists.
 
2013-02-08 06:41:10 AM

djones101: They should give out $100 bonuses for every pretentious bicycling hipster snob that gets door'd.  Sorry, but you do NOT own the lane and the entire road around it.


Valiente: When I was a cycle courier, it was called "the door prize".

CSB: Saw someone opening a door without a mirror check, right in front of me, and instead of veering out into traffic, I veered into their exiting left leg.

It sounds like celery being snapped inside a towel. The bone, not the screaming.

/CSB.
//I clip the occasional texting jaywalker, too. People think evolution is passive. It's not.


You two were made for each other.
 
2013-02-08 06:44:46 AM

lolpix: You'd think that would already qualify as criminal recklessness of some sort.


This. It seems like this bill is targeting a problem that doesn't really exist.  Between whatever current traffic laws are on the books and the inevitable lawsuit by the cyclist, you can pretty much bank on getting reamed by the courts.  Even if it was an accident.

/But you gotta court the spandex brigade vote somehow...
 
2013-02-08 06:44:49 AM

EatenTheSun: A violation would carry a $100 civil penalty.

Worth it.


Thread done
 
2013-02-08 06:46:43 AM
So one might assume, but I'm cool with the rules. Doing a mirror check is one of them. If I am in my lane, the onus is not on me to anticipate your sudden door booting, although mostly, I do, but that's because I consider my fellow humans incapable of logic or impulse control.

Dick cyclists annoy me as well as any driver, but physics favours the powered, one tonne object over "Lance the barista".
 
2013-02-08 06:48:15 AM
I've never seen anything like this, but there's not a huge amount of cycling done in HR in general. Are the the drivers pulling up almost on the sidewalk and hitting people when they open the door? Are they stopping just on the right side and flinging their doors open?
 
2013-02-08 06:48:37 AM
However, bicyclists will now be arrested and given transvaginal ultrasounds as a matter of routine.
 
2013-02-08 06:48:43 AM
They should somehow work tipping into these bicyclist threads. The comments would be in the 1000s!
 
2013-02-08 06:50:36 AM

Capo Del Bandito: I've never seen anything like this, but there's not a huge amount of cycling done in HR in general. Are the the drivers pulling up almost on the sidewalk and hitting people when they open the door? Are they stopping just on the right side and flinging their doors open?


that's how to troll, right there
 
2013-02-08 06:51:32 AM
I saw a bicyclist get doored once. It was hilarious.

I laughed even harder as the ambulance carried away his corpse.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-02-08 06:53:43 AM
I would have thought it would be covered under simple assault. Strange that it's not.
 
2013-02-08 06:54:53 AM
Got doored about 5 years ago. Would have been okay, but unfortunately there was a car behind me that drove over me when I was on the ground.
/painful story, bro
 
2013-02-08 06:56:05 AM
Working for over a decade in 'frisco
I've learned that cyclists who act like arseholes usually get it in the end
or rather
 dragged by a car, crushed against walls/other vehicles etc
or in one glorious case I worked..hit by a cement truck
driver swears he never saw the idiot playing chicken with him

Hard to keep a straight face with the crying friends and family in their cycling tights
on a good note, the company successfully sued for the loss and cleaning
 of a truck full of cement
so all ended well
 
2013-02-08 06:57:03 AM
A friend of mine had a cyclist hit his car door on a quiet residential street once.  I remember it well.  "Close the dooooooor.......   Thump."  The cyclist had to pay for the damages to the door.

Slow down and pay attention morons.
 
2013-02-08 06:59:06 AM

LowbrowDeluxe: djones101: They should give out $100 bonuses for every pretentious bicycling hipster snob that gets door'd.  Sorry, but you do NOT own the lane and the entire road around it.

Hey, hey, everyone!  This guy is EDGY /and/ COOL.  Acknowledge him!


It's possible you are your not edgy at all and think Bicycling hipsters do own the lane.
//just throwing that out there
 
2013-02-08 06:59:58 AM
farm1.static.flickr.com

/ what a REAL doorcheck looks like
// tips hat to TACPs & FACs
 
2013-02-08 07:01:23 AM

natas6.0: Working for over a decade in 'frisco
I've learned that cyclists who act like arseholes usually get it in the end
or rather
 dragged by a car, crushed against walls/other vehicles etc
or in one glorious case I worked..hit by a cement truck
driver swears he never saw the idiot playing chicken with him

Hard to keep a straight face with the crying friends and family in their cycling tights
on a good note, the company successfully sued for the loss and cleaning
 of a truck full of cement
so all ended well



Worst.  Poem.  Ever.
 
2013-02-08 07:03:23 AM
I had that happen to me in midtown manhattan in 2006. Very painful. I got real lucky. my skin "is like piece of iron". Shouldv'e been a lot more injured. Haven't biked since then. I think I will start biking again soon though. I will just be more careful this time.
 
2013-02-08 07:05:42 AM

LDM90: They should somehow work tipping into these bicyclist threads. The comments would be in the 1000s!


Never happen, you have to be clean to work in a restaurant.
 
2013-02-08 07:08:48 AM

djones101: They should give out $100 bonuses for every pretentious bicycling hipster snob that gets door'd.  Sorry, but you do NOT own the lane and the entire road around it.


Yes, they do own the lane in my state (NC) and I suspect others. It's a non-motorized vehicle and if there isn't a specific bike lane set up they have just as much of a right to the road as anyone else. A bicyclist SHOULD be in the center of the land and shouldn't veer to the side unless they feel the car behind them has sufficient room to pass safely.

Of course. They're also supposed to follow all the other normal traffic laws. Stoplights/Stop signs, yield signs, no turn on Red signs. Being on a bike doesn't make you some special car/pedestrian hybrid, it just makes you another vehicle on the road.
 
2013-02-08 07:10:54 AM
What if it is the passenger door and you pick of an idiot riding on the sidewalk. the cyclist should pay the driver $100
 
2013-02-08 07:11:55 AM
Drexl's Eye
you have a point
and you made me spit pistachio all over my screen
 
2013-02-08 07:13:05 AM

Valiente: When I was a cycle courier, it was called "the door prize".

CSB: Saw someone opening a door without a mirror check, right in front of me, and instead of veering out into traffic, I veered into their exiting left leg.

It sounds like celery being snapped inside a towel. The bone, not the screaming.

/CSB.
//I clip the occasional texting jaywalker, too. People think evolution is passive. It's not.



Valiente: Dick cyclists annoy me as well as any driver


Do you even have any self-awareness?
 
2013-02-08 07:17:17 AM
People take riding a bike and driving way too seriously. Do you know what's best? Walk. Bike riders, you get just as many health benefits from walking...drivers, if you are going to the store at the end of your street, walk there....
Free up the road for the ninja parades that no one sees passing through.
 
2013-02-08 07:20:33 AM

Wolf892: ninja parades that no one sees


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2013-02-08 07:20:57 AM

Valiente: When I was a cycle courier, it was called "the door prize".

CSB: Saw someone opening a door without a mirror check, right in front of me, and instead of veering out into traffic, I veered into their exiting left leg.

It sounds like celery being snapped inside a towel. The bone, not the screaming.

/CSB.
//I clip the occasional texting jaywalker, too. People think evolution is passive. It's not.


Next time you run a red light 'cause you think the traffic laws don't apply to you, I hope someone door checks you to keep you from getting plowed by right of way traffic.

Get in the traffic lane or get off the road.


CSB time,
Just last night, on a road with a full lane width shoulder, after sunset, there was a guy on a bike straddling the right hand white line between the right hand lane and the shoulder. No lights, on a black bicycle with no reflectors, and he was wearing black, and he was shouting at the cars for crowding HIS space.

I love riding my bike. Most fun I have had getting some exercise aside from martial arts class or sex but guys like the guy above... make me hate cyclists. I have to make a concerted effort not to be prejudiced because of a$$holes like this.
 
db2
2013-02-08 07:24:43 AM
What about front-bumpering? Still okay?
 
2013-02-08 07:25:05 AM
i46.tinypic.com
Y'all are posting in a cycle troll thread.
 
2013-02-08 07:30:45 AM

Wolf892: People take riding a bike and driving way too seriously. Do you know what's best? Walk. Bike riders, you get just as many health benefits from walking...drivers, if you are going to the store at the end of your street, walk there....
Free up the road for the ninja parades that no one sees passing through.


It'd take me a little too long to walk 17 miles to work.

Seriously though, I was always taught as a cyclist, among other things, that getting doored is your own fault.  I know people who cycle in more urban settings skirt or outright break a lot of traffic laws routinely, but there's no excuse.  I try my absolute best to stay a door width away from parked cars and take the lane if I have to.  Usually in that type of place traffic is going slow enough that I can keep up with it anyway.  All of the stories I've heard of people getting doored involve traffic going slower, and then they try to pass on the right.  Which is not legal or safe or smart by any stretch of the imagination.
 
2013-02-08 07:32:16 AM
Who's responsible if the door gets hit by another car?

Would actually like to know... came very close to hitting a person and their door when they jumped out of the back seat without looking at the gas station last night.
 
2013-02-08 07:32:42 AM

Valiente: When I was a cycle courier, it was called "the door prize".

CSB: Saw someone opening a door without a mirror check, right in front of me, and instead of veering out into traffic, I veered into their exiting left leg.

It sounds like celery being snapped inside a towel. The bone, not the screaming.

/CSB.
//I clip the occasional texting jaywalker, too. People think evolution is passive. It's not.


And likewise, when a cyclist bows through a red light or stop sign in front of me as I'm driving through an intersection I just keep on driving.
 
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