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2013-02-07 08:39:59 PM
Yes. Tasty, tasty murder.
 
2013-02-07 08:41:22 PM
Since the definition of murder means killing another human being, then technically no. However, killing anything that isn't going to be used in a functional way "food, clothing, tools" is BLOODY STUPID!
 
2013-02-07 08:42:26 PM
cdn2.mamapop.com
 
2013-02-07 08:51:18 PM
done in one.
 
2013-02-07 08:51:40 PM
In many cases, hunting as part of wildlife management helps control the populations of animals whose natural predators have dwindled due to humans. I don't hunt and it's not anything I care to do, but it can serve a legitimate purpose.
 
2013-02-07 08:51:46 PM
Well, the Manhunters do.

/No man escapes the Manhunters.
 
2013-02-07 08:52:03 PM

WTF Indeed: Yes. Tasty, tasty murder.


and we are done.
 
2013-02-07 08:52:15 PM

ajgeek: Since the definition of murder means killing another human being, then technically no. However, killing anything that isn't going to be used in a functional way "food, clothing, tools" is BLOODY STUPID!


You think hunters just kill and leave the carcasses to rot?
 
2013-02-07 08:52:20 PM
Only if two go out, but one returns.
 
2013-02-07 08:52:33 PM
Deer don't have feelings. They're evil hellbeasts who like to run in front of me at night on the highway.

But some hunters do manage to shoot other humans every year, that probably qualifies.
 
2013-02-07 08:53:15 PM
Meat's meat, and a man's gotta eat!
 
2013-02-07 08:53:19 PM

MyRandomName: ajgeek: Since the definition of murder means killing another human being, then technically no. However, killing anything that isn't going to be used in a functional way "food, clothing, tools" is BLOODY STUPID!

You think hunters just kill and leave the carcasses to rot?


I get the feeling a lot of people think this -- that huntersjust go out in the woods and blast away at deer or anything else that happens across their scope.
 
2013-02-07 08:53:31 PM

ajgeek: Since the definition of murder means killing another human being, then technically no. However, killing anything that isn't going to be used in a functional way "food, clothing, tools" is BLOODY STUPID!


This.
 
2013-02-07 08:54:09 PM

Government Fromage: MyRandomName: ajgeek: Since the definition of murder means killing another human being, then technically no. However, killing anything that isn't going to be used in a functional way "food, clothing, tools" is BLOODY STUPID!

You think hunters just kill and leave the carcasses to rot?

I get the feeling a lot of people think this -- that huntersjust go out in the woods and blast away at deer or anything else that happens across their scope.


Just the guys who make the hunting shows.
 
2013-02-07 08:55:29 PM

ajgeek: Since the definition of murder means killing another human being, then technically  LEGALLY no. However, killing anything that isn't going to be used in a functional way "food, clothing, tools" is BLOODY STUPID!


FTFY

Murder is a legal concept. There is no murder in the jungle.
 
2013-02-07 08:55:49 PM
Is NPR run by furries?

If so, I guess I can understand their bias.
 
2013-02-07 08:55:50 PM
It's not murder if you're intending to use as much of the animal as possible in tasty, tasty recipes. So remember that next time your city has a homeless problem.

/I'm not a...hah..."SERIAL" killer....
 
2013-02-07 08:56:35 PM

ajgeek: Since the definition of murder means killing another human being


It's actually the unlawful killing of another person...important distinction.
 
2013-02-07 08:56:47 PM
Do ob-gyn docs who perform abortions commit murder?
Do Republicans who send poor kids into pointless Asian land wars commit murder?
Does the Grinch have a rotten soul?
 
2013-02-07 08:56:58 PM

ajgeek: Since the definition of murder means killing another human being, then technically no. However, killing anything that isn't going to be used in a functional way "food, clothing, tools" is BLOODY STUPID!


And illegal in my state.

/and probably most others.
//since "game animals" are considered a "public resource" and wasting public resources is a big no-no.
 
2013-02-07 08:57:51 PM

ajgeek: Since the definition of murder means killing another human being, then technically no. However, killing anything that isn't going to be used in a functional way "food, clothing, tools" is BLOODY STUPID!


Ah, inuits trying to keep polar bears away from their village, and any city trying to keep natural predator numbers in check would like to disagree with you. Did you just forget that there are communities, even within the U.S. that have a problem with wolves?
 
2013-02-07 08:57:55 PM
im not a hunter, id rather go out and shoot animals with a camera than a rifle. but it aint murder.
//dnrtfa
 
2013-02-07 08:58:11 PM
Man I could really murder a nice venison steak right about now
 
2013-02-07 08:58:17 PM

Nabb1: In many cases, hunting as part of wildlife management helps control the populations of animals whose natural predators have dwindled due to humans. I don't hunt and it's not anything I care to do, but it can serve a legitimate purpose.


How new are you? Logical answers? Pfft... This is FARK! Bust out the hyperbole!
 
2013-02-07 08:58:50 PM

WTF Indeed: Yes. Tasty, tasty murder.


Came for this ^^ leaving satisfied.
 
2013-02-07 08:59:43 PM
Do I havde to be the first one to post this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQyoSLOlglw

Hunting is murder only if cows are out of season and one of the hunters isn't insured.
 
2013-02-07 08:59:53 PM
Once I heard someone make this point:  (I'm paraphrasing)

Is there anything more illegitimate than having one's lifestyle regulated by those who have no idea what that lifestyle is about?  How just is it to have those ignorant of an issue make decisions limiting the rights of those with absolute knowledge of an issue?

One recent example is the recent gun-grabber movement populated by those "against" the 2nd ammendment who don't even know the basic nomenclature.  They don't understand the difference between a clip and a magazine.  They have never fired a weapon before.  They think guns are "scary."  Yet, these folks are the ones trying to limit the rights of folks who have been brought up with guns being as ubiquitous as any other tool in the garage.

Hunters also deal with this problem.  Folks who have never hunted, never killed what they eat... People who think meat comes wrapped in styrofoam and plastic wrap... people who have never dirtied their own hands with the blood of animals they eat every day.  THESE people are the ones who feel qualified to tell hunters what is right and what is wrong.

Much like the author of this article.
 
2013-02-07 09:00:31 PM
You can't grill it until you kill it. That meat you ate for dinner didn't kill itself.
 
2013-02-07 09:00:34 PM
No. It was a hunting accident. Stop rocking the boat.
 
2013-02-07 09:01:30 PM
If you don't plan on eating it, yes.

If you don't plan on eating it then you are just killing for fun, and its murder.
 
2013-02-07 09:01:47 PM
Depends what animal you're hunting. Homo Sapiens? Yeah. Murder.
 
2013-02-07 09:02:15 PM
I know this is a touchy subject but here is my 2 cents.

Hunters love the kill. The idea of taking another life, the final kicking of the animal is all part of the charm, otherwise why would they do it? Getting food isn't the answer. It's the fun of it.

Also I think hunters claiming that video games makes people violent is absurd.

that's all folks
 
2013-02-07 09:02:41 PM

Raw_fishFood: Well, the Manhunters do.

/No man escapes the Manhunters.


I was rather disappointed at that. I always thought The Martian Manhunter was a sci-fi themed gay porn.

How...unexpected.

skylabdown: Is there anything more illegitimate than having one's lifestyle regulated by those who have no idea what that lifestyle is about?  How just is it to have those ignorant of an issue make decisions limiting the rights of those with absolute knowledge of an issue?


Tell us your feelings on people who are not straight, white Christians of the protestant faith?
 
2013-02-07 09:03:48 PM
No , but I would like to hunt the people who came up with the idea of hunting from the internet and helicopters
 
2013-02-07 09:04:07 PM

Big Man On Campus: Is NPR run by furries?

If so, I guess I can understand their bias.


I'm pretty liberal on almost everything, but NPR has been really pushing the anti-gun angle.  I realize they are just covering the nonsense coming from various legislators, but I wish they would cover it in the same manner they covered the idiots making the 'legitimate rape' and similar comments.
 
2013-02-07 09:04:31 PM
I've never hunted, and I probably never will- it just seems like a pain in the ass to me, and I would much rather just buy my meat all neatly sliced and wrapped up in plastic. This shiat is retarded, however.
 
2013-02-07 09:05:04 PM
So I guess we are all accessories to murder?

Like purses and hats.
 
2013-02-07 09:05:17 PM

MyRandomName: ajgeek: Since the definition of murder means killing another human being, then technically no. However, killing anything that isn't going to be used in a functional way "food, clothing, tools" is BLOODY STUPID!

You think hunters just kill and leave the carcasses to rot?


Who eats wolf meat? They just take the coat and that's it.
 
2013-02-07 09:05:33 PM

nigeman: I know this is a touchy subject but here is my 2 cents.

Hunters love the kill. The idea of taking another life, the final kicking of the animal is all part of the charm, otherwise why would they do it? Getting food isn't the answer. It's the fun of it.

Also I think hunters claiming that video games makes people violent is absurd.

that's all folks


Your change is one penny.
Have a nice day.
 
2013-02-07 09:05:51 PM
BronyMedic:

skylabdown: Is there anything more illegitimate than having one's lifestyle regulated by those who have no idea what that lifestyle is about?  How just is it to have those ignorant of an issue make decisions limiting the rights of those with absolute knowledge of an issue?

Tell us your feelings on people who are not straight, white Christians of the protestant faith?


Project much?  Tell me your feelings!  What's your point?  I guess you agree with me then.
 
2013-02-07 09:06:24 PM
you say pheasant, he says peasant

t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-07 09:06:35 PM
Don't be silly, if left unchecked, overpopulation would force many to be unable to sustain themselves and they will start to suffer and starve. Hunting is doing them a favor.

www.mnn.com
 
2013-02-07 09:07:12 PM
No, because the law says they aren't. And the only difference between killing and murder is legality
 
2013-02-07 09:07:46 PM
Hunting isn't murder, but hunters should stop displaying those sexy deer heads on their walls.
 
2013-02-07 09:08:16 PM

skylabdown: Once I heard someone make this point:  (I'm paraphrasing)

Is there anything more illegitimate than having one's lifestyle regulated by those who have no idea what that lifestyle is about?  How just is it to have those ignorant of an issue make decisions limiting the rights of those with absolute knowledge of an issue?

One recent example is the recent gun-grabber movement populated by those "against" the 2nd ammendment who don't even know the basic nomenclature.  They don't understand the difference between a clip and a magazine.  They have never fired a weapon before.  They think guns are "scary."  Yet, these folks are the ones trying to limit the rights of folks who have been brought up with guns being as ubiquitous as any other tool in the garage.

Hunters also deal with this problem.  Folks who have never hunted, never killed what they eat... People who think meat comes wrapped in styrofoam and plastic wrap... people who have never dirtied their own hands with the blood of animals they eat every day.  THESE people are the ones who feel qualified to tell hunters what is right and what is wrong.

Much like the author of this article.


pfft this is like having someone say "you don't know the difference between mexican brown and china rocks yet YOU are telling me that heroin is bad.
 
2013-02-07 09:08:39 PM

Big Man On Campus: Ah, inuits trying to keep polar bears away from their village, and any city trying to keep natural predator numbers in check would like to disagree with you. Did you just forget that there are communities, even within the U.S. that have a problem with wolves?


Actually, yes I did. But I'd wager that the polar bear isn't going to freeze to the ice or the wolf's pelt isn't going to be harvested once the nuisance is dead.

/A storm is coming into the NE
//And the stupid out there has me red.
 
2013-02-07 09:08:41 PM
Short answer: No

Feeling this way, it's hard for me to understand the pull to hunt animalsunless the meat is actually needed to feed one's family, or the hunting is managed and results in good outcomes for the animal population in question. (This can be the case when high population numbers would otherwise consign individuals to starvation and slow, miserable deaths).

A: You don't need to hunt because you're too poor to feed your family. Some people choose to hunt because it's cheaper. Some chose to hunt because they can get more meat at once, so they aren't trying to buy a side of beef. Others do it because the meat isn't pumped full of hormones, fed GenMod feed, and has less fat.

B: Hunting IS managed, it's why we have seasons and limits. This isn't just a whim, this is to manage the populations and lessen then instances of starvation.

C: If hunting is murder, so is slaughtering the cows for distribution to your local grocery store.
 
2013-02-07 09:08:58 PM

Government Fromage: MyRandomName: ajgeek: Since the definition of murder means killing another human being, then technically no. However, killing anything that isn't going to be used in a functional way "food, clothing, tools" is BLOODY STUPID!

You think hunters just kill and leave the carcasses to rot?

I get the feeling a lot of people think this -- that huntersjust go out in the woods and blast away at deer or anything else that happens across their scope.


Perhaps they think everyone is some cartoonish trophy hunter who kills an animal just to add to their collection and just leaves the yummy bits to rot.
 
2013-02-07 09:09:46 PM

Ego edo infantia cattus: nigeman: I know this is a touchy subject but here is my 2 cents.

Hunters love the kill. The idea of taking another life, the final kicking of the animal is all part of the charm, otherwise why would they do it? Getting food isn't the answer. It's the fun of it.

Also I think hunters claiming that video games makes people violent is absurd.

that's all folks

Your change is one penny.
Have a nice day.


I see you have it covered.  Except I think you can also add:  "I think anyone claiming that video games make people violent is absurd".


I hate taking the life of animals.  But I love how they taste.  If I could harvest venison like I harvest chives, I'd be quite happy.  Unfortunately, literally everything humans eat was once alive at some level, there is no getting around that.   Some people just have a line they have drawn based on cranial capacity and cuteness.
 
2013-02-07 09:10:18 PM
  It's quite a bit different here...We take the deer out for a few cocktails..then a nice dinner..Maybe some girls later...And then when the deer is relaxed and happy...Boom! one right behind the antlers.
 
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