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(Washington Post)   Microsoft: Google doesn't respect your piracy. It's like rain on your Windows installer disc   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 34
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2013-02-07 08:34:05 PM  
I'm going to stick with gmail because I don't really care, but I'm curious to see how Google handles this in the longer term.
 
2013-02-07 08:48:30 PM  
Then how is it I can find every torrent I need on a Google search.
 
2013-02-07 09:03:53 PM  
If you're wondering why you have so many porno popups, it's because you're infected with malware, not because google has been monitoring your searches./carry on
 
2013-02-07 09:08:08 PM  
Is that "piracy" or "privacy"? They have slightly different meanings.

They sure has hell don't respect my piracy. My pirated W7 on my windows boot sector minimizes randomly while I'm playing Diablo. Usually right as I'm encountering a "Jailer/Arcane Enchanted/Molten/Reflect Damage" elite pack.
 
2013-02-07 09:14:51 PM  

FTA: The campaign also promotes Microsoft's own Outlook.com mail service, a relaunched version of Hotmail - which, it should be noted, does use personal information users provide, as well as users' search histories, to serve ads of its own.

FAIL
 
2013-02-07 09:18:53 PM  
On its Scroogled campaign site, Microsoft is gathering signatures for a petition titled "Tell Google to stop going through your ads." Weitz said that the company has yet to decide what it will do with the petition, which has a target of 25,000 signatures. As of Thursday afternoon, it had just over 800.

I'm willing to bet those 800 are mostly Microsoft middle-managers.
 
2013-02-07 09:23:05 PM  
Yarr, its about time someone respected me piracy.
I've had it up to here with those land lubbers at google.
 
2013-02-07 09:23:24 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: On its Scroogled campaign site, Microsoft is gathering signatures for a petition titled "Tell Google to stop going through your ads." Weitz said that the company has yet to decide what it will do with the petition, which has a target of 25,000 signatures. As of Thursday afternoon, it had just over 800.

I'm willing to bet those 800 are mostly Microsoft middle-managers.


The real FAIL is they could convince 800 of their own middle managers to click the petition.
 
2013-02-07 09:30:35 PM  

MrEricSir: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: On its Scroogled campaign site, Microsoft is gathering signatures for a petition titled "Tell Google to stop going through your ads." Weitz said that the company has yet to decide what it will do with the petition, which has a target of 25,000 signatures. As of Thursday afternoon, it had just over 800.

I'm willing to bet those 800 are mostly Microsoft middle-managers.

The real FAIL is they could convince 800 of their own middle managers to click the petition.


How many employees does Microsoft have? I bet a lot of them use gmail from their Android phones.
 
2013-02-07 09:33:45 PM  
Both are bad so vote Apple. I wish all three would just stick to what they are good at and STFU.
 
2013-02-07 09:43:03 PM  
FTA: On its Scroogled campaign site, Microsoft is gathering signatures for a petition titled "Tell Google to stop going through your ads."

WTF? Why would I want to tell Google to stop going through my ads? I don't even have any ads. If they'd made a petition to tell Google to stop going through my email, at least that'd have made sense. Although I wouldn't have signed it, as I like having free email.
 
2013-02-07 09:50:51 PM  
There are ads on the internet?
 
2013-02-07 10:03:24 PM  
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Have you considered piracy?  Because Google doesn't respect it.
 
2013-02-07 10:30:23 PM  
A generation that grows up posting their every thought to social media doesn't have issues with their life being a public blank check. Because ultimately if everyone's private life is public, no one ends up giving a fark. Google knows this and it's why they build their business model on working on a way to only display advertisements to stuff that you are interested in and might buy.

David Brin predicted this in his novel Earth.
 
2013-02-07 11:00:36 PM  

narkor: A generation that grows up posting their every thought to social media doesn't have issues with their life being a public blank check. Because ultimately if everyone's private life is public, no one ends up giving a fark. Google knows this and it's why they build their business model on working on a way to only display advertisements to stuff that you are interested in and might buy.

David Brin predicted this in his novel Earth.


It's a ton of people who thinks Google should run the ENTIRE farking internet(i'm serious) and trust without question
/They might show up on here in a bit
 
2013-02-07 11:10:35 PM  
Google should run the entire internet. No seriously, they are really good at protecting your piracy...
 
2013-02-07 11:16:03 PM  
Microsoft ran this ad a year ago.
Are they running it again?
 
2013-02-07 11:28:57 PM  
I was thinking hey could runt he ENTIRE internets a sfar as, youkno w, I was I concerneding.....
 
2013-02-07 11:36:24 PM  
Gmail has ads?
 
2013-02-08 12:07:05 AM  
Before Gmail, the ads we saw on webmail services were atrocious.

When Gmail came along, its ability to serve relevant text ads based on the content of your email was a FEATURE.

Personally, I don't really care.

I'd like to replace Google and all its service with a private service someday, but I'm nowhere near that yet. In the meantime, my privacy is much more secure with Google hosting my email than anyone's privacy using Facebook for any form of communication at all.
 
2013-02-08 12:11:26 AM  

BizarreMan: Gmail has ads?


Yeah, I know. What MORON doesn't block ads, plus, anymore??

Especially now that you can ad block, plus, in Opera also...

;-)
 
2013-02-08 12:12:13 AM  

Colin O'Scopy: BizarreMan: Gmail has ads?

Yeah, I know. What MORON doesn't block ads, plus, anymore??

Especially now that you can ad block, plus, in Opera also...

;-)


/AdBlock Plus
 
2013-02-08 12:33:25 AM  

narkor: A generation that grows up posting their every thought to social media doesn't have issues with their life being a public blank check. Because ultimately if everyone's private life is public, no one ends up giving a fark. Google knows this and it's why they build their business model on working on a way to only display advertisements to stuff that you are interested in and might buy.


This. I have discussed this with my. - ahem - less senior co-workers and privacy means something completely different to people who grew up with the Internet and social media. The surveillance society will come about not because of authoritarian Government but because most younger people just don't care that they are being watched.

Sadly, I've been assimilated, too. Google just makes their products so damned convenient to use. There really are no better options, paid or free, that operate as seamlessly across all my tech. Having my calendars, mail and contacts synced across my Gnome desktop, Thunderbird email and Android devices is pretty compelling.
 
2013-02-08 01:10:04 AM  
i use gmail and even still have an old yahoo email.  i saw this commercial last night and was a bit intrigued (the whole scroogled.com bit) until i noticed the words Microsoft and Outlook.  I use the ad block software and every once in awhile i see an ad at the top.  i could care less.
 
2013-02-08 02:03:43 AM  
FTFA: " using algorithms to scan Gmail users' messages and serve ads based on the keywords they find there. "

I'm sure when I signed up Gmail, back around 2005, Google used the little targeted ads were a selling point. At that time, the likes of Hotmail had bigger, distracting ads, for stuff you weren't interested in.

So, from my point of view, I've always assumed this was what they were doing.
 
2013-02-08 02:25:51 AM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: On its Scroogled campaign site, Microsoft is gathering signatures for a petition titled "Tell Google to stop going through your ads." Weitz said that the company has yet to decide what it will do with the petition, which has a target of 25,000 signatures. As of Thursday afternoon, it had just over 800.

I'm willing to bet those 800 are mostly Microsoft middle-managers.


You would be.
 
2013-02-08 03:53:43 AM  
Do people still "see" ads?  Personally, any website I see that has ads in it are automatically filtered out by my brain (and browser).  If there are people out there still clicking on ads they need to be slapped.
 
2013-02-08 05:35:01 AM  
In gmail, I like to put in a few random words that have nothing to do with the email and have nothing to do with anything I like or use. Just kidding.. I wouldn't use gmail if you paid me.
 
2013-02-08 06:13:52 AM  
Mitt Romneys Tax Return:
Sadly, I've been assimilated, too. Google just makes their products so damned convenient to use. There really are no better options, paid or free, that operate as seamlessly across all my tech. Having my calendars, mail and contacts synced across my Gnome desktop, Thunderbird email and Android devices is pretty compelling.

Similar thoughts here. I have to help take care of an aging relative's finances, including tax preparation. Scanning receipts with my android phone and uploading them to Drive, keeping tax deductible item spreadsheets on Drive, etc., means I can do a lot by remote control. I keep my calendar on Google, and I'm trying to talk Mrs. Un into that so we can share a calendar and better know who has to do what and when.

Still, I log out of Google when I search so they don't see everything tied directly to my account. And for all the worries about them trying to deliver ads, at least they allow strange characters as part of a password and have two-factor authentication  They were doing that well before my bank finally did.

My biggest gripe with Google is they insist I use Google+ if I want to post an app review on Play The Android Market, and I don't use Google+..

However, when Microsoft announced outlook, I have locked down Unobtanium'sralname[at]outlook.com in addition to doing the same at gmail and yahoo. You never know when you might need a fall-back.
 
2013-02-08 06:50:22 AM  

Unobtanium: My biggest gripe with Google is they insist I use Google+ if I want to post an app review on Play The Android Market, and I don't use Google+..


It makes their g+ stats look good if people have to create g+ account to post a review that nobody in their right mind pays any attention to.
 
2013-02-08 07:12:50 AM  

Flying Code Monkey: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: On its Scroogled campaign site, Microsoft is gathering signatures for a petition titled "Tell Google to stop going through your ads." Weitz said that the company has yet to decide what it will do with the petition, which has a target of 25,000 signatures. As of Thursday afternoon, it had just over 800.

I'm willing to bet those 800 are mostly Microsoft middle-managers.

You would be.


Indeed I would.
 
2013-02-08 07:19:34 AM  
I've been feeling less and less comfortable with Google have so much of my data over the years, especially since the launch of Google+. Last year I switched my main email to a hosted Office365 account on my own domain and after a year it wasn't bad, but I've just set up my own email server. Debian+Postfix+Dovecot+Spamassassin+Roundcube is pretty nifty. Only downside is that since I don't have a business class line and have an IP in a known "consumer" pool of IPs, my own server gets hit by spam filters, so I have to relay out going mail through my ISP's SMTP server.
 
2013-02-08 07:38:22 AM  

Unobtanium: However, when Microsoft announced outlook, I have locked down Unobtanium'sralname[at]outlook.com in addition to doing the same at gmail and yahoo. You never know when you might need a fall-back.


And to be honest, other than integration with Google products, Gmail doesn't do anything better than Outlook. In fact, Outlook is snappier and you get similar services from Microsoft, at least on the Calendar, Contacts and SkyDrive cloud services.
 
2013-02-08 08:16:02 AM  

MrEricSir: FTA: The campaign also promotes Microsoft's own Outlook.com mail service, a relaunched version of Hotmail - which, it should be noted, does use personal information users provide, as well as users' search histories, to serve ads of its own.

FAIL


Pretty much. At least Google doesn't hide the fact that advertising is it's business, whereas Microsoft seems to be implying that you should move to Outlook.com to avoid personal information being used when they do the same thing.
 
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