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2013-02-07 07:09:29 PM  
LL Cool J will play him in the movie
 
2013-02-07 07:10:11 PM  
Some of it sounds totally rational and sane, but other parts of it sound sort of nutty.

One thing's for sure, though. This guy sounds dangerous as f*ck.
 
2013-02-07 07:11:55 PM  
Why didn't he wait until the end of The Walking Dead's third season?
 
2013-02-07 07:13:17 PM  
That loud bang you heard was Huntsman slapping his forehead upon discovering that he was this guy's candidate last election.
 
2013-02-07 07:14:16 PM  
Having read the manifesto, which seems pretty clear-headed, and details real allegations of very serious corruption and racism within LAPD, am I wrong to want this guy to achieve some of his objectives?
 
2013-02-07 07:15:19 PM  
Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.
 
2013-02-07 07:16:27 PM  

Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.


You are sick.
 
2013-02-07 07:16:29 PM  
Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.
 
2013-02-07 07:16:55 PM  
i read bits and pieces --


this is just some big black guy who thinks the world is out to get him. He got pissed his whinging and biatching didn't get taken seriously and is using it as an excuse to murder innocent people.

He thinks the world owes him something for being black. He's not some honorable saint, he's a murdering piece of shiat, and I truly hope when they do catch him, they shoot on site and wait till he's dead to call the paramedics.

All this supposedly stems from a complaint he lodged about a suspect being kicked/abused... she he got all bent out of shape over that, but sees nothing wrong with putting bullets into people's brains?

The sad thing is I've known more than one black person that has this "I'm black, I'm oppressed, I never succeeded because of the color of my skin, everything I do is okay" way of thinking.
 
2013-02-07 07:17:04 PM  

Corn_Fed: Having read the manifesto, which seems pretty clear-headed, and details real allegations of very serious corruption and racism within LAPD, am I wrong to want this guy to achieve some of his objectives?


Yes.
 
2013-02-07 07:17:12 PM  
I'm not reading all that sh*t.

If he took that much time to write all that, I'm just gonna say he's guilty.
 
2013-02-07 07:17:23 PM  

Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.


Right?  The guy is clearly a gun-grabber.
 
2013-02-07 07:18:06 PM  

OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.

No worries. You still have Ted Nugent.
 
2013-02-07 07:18:18 PM  
What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana's skull.

Ha! We need the FARK gun club in here to critique his suggested weapon and post pictures of their own gun collections and personal recommendations.
 
2013-02-07 07:19:18 PM  
I guess the suspect posted it...but what proof is there he wrote it, it's just text.
His Facebook page?

Am I claiming something afoul?
No, I'm just asking what proof there is that this guy wrote it.
 
2013-02-07 07:20:06 PM  
Well that settles everything. Give him his job back along with back pay and a promotion. I mean, damn. He's the good guy and those dead guys were getting in the way of justice.

I can't do it anymore. Shoot this M-effer on site and parade his corpse around L.A.
 
2013-02-07 07:20:25 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I'm not reading all that sh*t.

If he took that much time to write all that, I'm just gonna say he's guilty.


So you really don't believe that there is any chance that the LAPD would be racist and unfair in any way?  The guy's a nutjob and obviously he's airing his grievances in the worst possible way (would it be THAT hard to find a journalist who wants to break these big allegations, assuming they're true?!), but I have to admit that his rant isn't that far fetched.  Frankly, some parts of it aren't even all that surprising.
 
2013-02-07 07:20:38 PM  

Corn_Fed: Having read the manifesto, which seems pretty clear-headed, and details real allegations of very serious corruption and racism within LAPD, am I wrong to want this guy to achieve some of his objectives?


I can't say without knowing which objective you mean.
 
2013-02-07 07:21:36 PM  
Begoggle, maybe just go to sleep? You are going to be really agitated otherwise.

Therefore, drink milk, pee, proceed to sleep. I will say hi to you when you wake up tomorrow. Promise.
 
2013-02-07 07:21:40 PM  

zvoidx: I guess the suspect posted it...but what proof is there he wrote it, it's just text.
His Facebook page?

Am I claiming something afoul?
No, I'm just asking what proof there is that this guy wrote it.


Obama planned it all.  Had someone shoot the couple and the other officers. Framed him. He's actually dead. They just want people to be afraid for a little while longer. Then he grabs away grannies guns.

Kidding of course.
 
2013-02-07 07:21:44 PM  

accelerus: i read bits and pieces --


this is just some big black guy who thinks the world is out to get him. He got pissed his whinging and biatching didn't get taken seriously and is using it as an excuse to murder innocent people.

He thinks the world owes him something for being black. He's not some honorable saint, he's a murdering piece of shiat, and I truly hope when they do catch him, they shoot on site and wait till he's dead to call the paramedics.

All this supposedly stems from a complaint he lodged about a suspect being kicked/abused... she he got all bent out of shape over that, but sees nothing wrong with putting bullets into people's brains?

The sad thing is I've known more than one black person that has this "I'm black, I'm oppressed, I never succeeded because of the color of my skin, everything I do is okay" way of thinking.


Yep, that's the sad thing about all this. That there are more uppity black people.
 
2013-02-07 07:21:47 PM  
tl;dr

(well maybe a little bit, but not the whole thing)
 
2013-02-07 07:21:51 PM  

Corn_Fed: Having read the manifesto, which seems pretty clear-headed, and details real allegations of very serious corruption and racism within LAPD, am I wrong to want this guy to achieve some of his objectives?



Considering he likely murdered innocent people during this rampage... Sorry, but yes. Yes, it's wrong.

And can we PLEASE stop giving these people the attention they want? It only encourages other psychos to lash out similarly.
 
2013-02-07 07:22:29 PM  

zvoidx: I guess the suspect posted it...but what proof is there he wrote it, it's just text.
His Facebook page?

Am I claiming something afoul?
No, I'm just asking what proof there is that this guy wrote it


i47.tinypic.com

 
2013-02-07 07:22:43 PM  

OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.


4/10. Would have only been 2/10, but you used the word leftist in conjunction with CNN, so you get a bonus point for that. You get another bonus point for conflating being someone's hero with agreeing with something that person once said.

Next time, try using more words like 'marxist' and 'fascist' completely out of context. I do think your work has promise, but this just feels a bit phoned in. I'm not quite feeling the frothing-at-the-mouth ignorance fueled rage. Looking forward to your future contributions though.
 
2013-02-07 07:23:05 PM  
Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.
 
2013-02-07 07:23:05 PM  
Tebow, I really wanted to see you take charge of an offense again and the game. You are not a good QB by todays standards, but you are a great football player who knows how to lead a team and WIN. You will be "Tebowing" when you reach your next team. I have faith in you. Get out of that circus they call the Jets and away from the reality TV star, Rex Ryan, and Mark Rapist Sanchez.

God this is epic.
 
2013-02-07 07:24:06 PM  

RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie


I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.  If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.
 
2013-02-07 07:24:09 PM  

Langston: Some of it sounds totally rational and sane, but other parts of it sound sort of nutty.

One thing's for sure, though. This guy sounds dangerous as f*ck.


No where near as dangerous as the crazed mob that's hunting him.
 
2013-02-07 07:24:11 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: So you really don't believe that there is any chance that the LAPD would be racist and unfair in any way? The guy's a nutjob and obviously he's airing his grievances in the worst possible way (would it be THAT hard to find a journalist who wants to break these big allegations, assuming they're true?!), but I have to admit that his rant isn't that far fetched. Frankly, some parts of it aren't even all that surprising.


To be honest? I don't really care if it's true. Sure, some reporter should look into it to make sure. I'm hoping that comes after this guy gets blown away or he eats a bullet himself.
 
2013-02-07 07:24:34 PM  
CNN at 8 pm will show the dvd he sent Anderson Cooper
Ratings galore.
 
2013-02-07 07:24:45 PM  
Way too long. That guy is crazy if he thinks I am going to read that.
 
2013-02-07 07:25:03 PM  
If he had just stuck to the LAPD grievances, this may be a little bit easier to swallow.
Still, the guy has a point...
 
2013-02-07 07:25:17 PM  
This guy obviously has a victim complex and no idea what true justice is.

I'm sure he genuinely believes he's in the right, but when you become a cop, you swear to protect and uphold the Constitution. Killing anyone who offends you is pretty much a violation of everything you claim to have dedicated yourself to.
 
2013-02-07 07:25:27 PM  
As a white guy driving a black scion tonight in LA, I'm concerned the LAPD might mistake me for Dorners and shoot up my car.


//kinda serious
 
2013-02-07 07:26:11 PM  

lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.


What would you have suggested?
 
2013-02-07 07:26:47 PM  
I saw this movie before, innocent/honest cop gets set up by dirty cops.

/There's two sides two this story
 
2013-02-07 07:26:59 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I'm not reading all that sh*t.


It's actually somewhat interesting.  When I clicked I thought I'd just skim it to judge the kook level, but I ended up reading prolly 2/3 of it.

/ guy reminds me of Stevie King
// needs a farking editor
 
2013-02-07 07:27:30 PM  

lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.  If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.


Yeah. He should have just reported it to his superiors.
 
2013-02-07 07:27:34 PM  

ontariolightning: CNN at 8 pm will show the dvd he sent Anderson Cooper
Ratings galore.


I hope they've at least previewed it. This worked out so well for NBC when Korean guy shot up Virginia Tech.

/oddly, Jeff Zucker was at NBC when that happened
//Zucker is now at CNN... hmm...
 
2013-02-07 07:28:06 PM  

Input error: Unable to determine who to root for.

 
2013-02-07 07:28:11 PM  
"(LAPD Chief) Beck attributed a pair of shootings by police officers in Torrance, south of Los Angeles, to mistaken identity. In one of the instances, officers fired on two women who were in a blue pickup delivering newspapers, the Los Angeles Times reported."

Sigh.
 
2013-02-07 07:28:38 PM  

Cuthbert Allgood: As a white guy driving a black scion tonight in LA, I'm concerned the LAPD might mistake me for Dorners and shoot up my car.


//kinda serious



With those trigger happy cops, I'd be nervous flying over LA in an airliner @ 30,000 feet.
 
2013-02-07 07:28:44 PM  

NewportBarGuy: HMS_Blinkin: So you really don't believe that there is any chance that the LAPD would be racist and unfair in any way? The guy's a nutjob and obviously he's airing his grievances in the worst possible way (would it be THAT hard to find a journalist who wants to break these big allegations, assuming they're true?!), but I have to admit that his rant isn't that far fetched. Frankly, some parts of it aren't even all that surprising.

To be honest? I don't really care if it's true. Sure, some reporter should look into it to make sure. I'm hoping that comes after this guy gets blown away or he eats a bullet himself.


Then you're a blithering idiot.

Go Dorner!
 
2013-02-07 07:28:57 PM  
Definitely some fodder for an investigative journalist, too bad there aren't any left
 
2013-02-07 07:29:16 PM  
Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you're a vile and inhumane piece of shiat.

Well, at least he's competent to stand trial.  High IQ, even.
 
2013-02-07 07:29:29 PM  

Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.


Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti-cop for years now.
 
2013-02-07 07:29:36 PM  

NewportBarGuy: To be honest? I don't really care if it's true. Sure, some reporter should look into it to make sure. I'm hoping that comes after this guy gets blown away or he eats a bullet himself.


That's probably how all of this will end.  But, if he's right and the LAPD is that corrupt, then some light needs to be shed on that fact.  The problem is that by being a murderer and a scumbag, he's going to damage his posthumous credibility significantly.  My point is, this guy had a bone to pick, and it's hardly a stretch of the imagination to think that his allegations might be legit.  And that's why it does matter whether his manifesto is rooted in truth----this shiat needs to be investigated.

But his behavior is going to make the problem, assuming it exists, much harder to solve.  No politician is going to want to talk about investigating the LAPD now that the public's sympathy is on their side.
 
2013-02-07 07:29:59 PM  

flamingboard: Input error: Unable to determine who to root for.



Just root AGAINST all current and former LAPD cops and you'll be fine.
 
2013-02-07 07:30:13 PM  

Molavian: Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.

Right?  The guy is clearly a gun-grabber.


Well, I'll admit that Dorners sort of lost points for that.

But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD, he's got my full moral support.

They've Farked with a lot of people and finally they Farked with the wrong one.

A well deserved comeuppance.

The police have already shot 2 innocent people (and tried to shoot a 3rd but were apparently too incompetent actually hit the person).

I think they're doing a pretty good job of justifying this guy's grudge against them.
 
2013-02-07 07:30:29 PM  

Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?


He could have written a tell-all book, gone to the media, made numerous youtube videos, started a blog and a podcast, and gotten the word out. It might have started changes, maybe. This won't.
 
2013-02-07 07:31:03 PM  
Anyone remember near the end of the 1st season of The Shield where the Farmington division were coming under fire from citizens during 9/11 calls? And it led to a riot. Intense episode
 
2013-02-07 07:31:55 PM  

Watubi: Definitely some fodder for an investigative journalist, too bad there aren't any left


I wish he'd just found an eager young, idealistic journalist, and laid out these complaints for him/her.  Then he might actually have affected some kind of change in the LAPD.  Instead, people are dying needlessly AND his narrative is no longer particularly credible, since almost no one is going to look at this guy as a martyr.  He might have accomplished something as an actual whistle-blower though.
 
2013-02-07 07:32:22 PM  
Corn_Fed:  Go Dorner!

From google:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/los-angeles-cops-chris-dorners-manifesto-spe a ks/story?id=18434105" class="l" wrc_done="true" style="color: rgb(17, 34, 204); cursor: pointer;">Los Angeles Cops Say  Chris Dorner's Manifesto 'Speaks for Itself  ...abcnews.go.com ›http://abcnews.go.com/US/los-angeles-cops-chris-dorners-manifesto-spe a ks/story?id=18434105" data-title="Los Angeles Cops Say Chris Dorner's Manifesto 'Speaks for Itself ..." data-desc="The venomous and rage-filled "manifesto" written by former cop Christopher Dorner before he went on an alleged cop killing spree around the ..." data-sli="srsl_3" data-ci="srslc_3" data-vli="srslcl_3" id="srsl_3" data-slg="webres" jsaction="srl.s" role="button" tabindex="0" style="cursor: pointer; margin-left: 5px; text-decoration: inherit; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">Share12 mins ago -The venomous and rage-filled "manifesto" written by former cop  Christopher Dorner before he went on an alleged cop killing spree

Did his manifesto seem venomous and rage-filled to you?
 
2013-02-07 07:32:27 PM  
The only time I remember such a large sway of the country completely terrified of one person was when the D.C. shiat was happening..  This guy isn't going after innocents entirely but it's clear he really has no concern for the well being of anyone as long as he takes his targets out.
 
2013-02-07 07:32:29 PM  
Methinks this crazy mofo has seen Rambo a few too many times.
 
2013-02-07 07:32:47 PM  

Amos Quito: flamingboard: Input error: Unable to determine who to root for.


Just root AGAINST all current and former LAPD cops and you'll be fine.


Indeed. fark the police and carry on.
 
2013-02-07 07:33:01 PM  

Zoth: Molavian: Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.

Right?  The guy is clearly a gun-grabber.

Well, I'll admit that Dorners sort of lost points for that.

But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD,  he's got my full moral support.



So you're glad he killed 3 people - morally you support him killing more.
Wow.
Wow.
 
2013-02-07 07:33:04 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Watubi: Definitely some fodder for an investigative journalist, too bad there aren't any left

I wish he'd just found an eager young, idealistic journalist, and laid out these complaints for him/her.


For some reason I read that as "laid out these complaints via twitter"
 
2013-02-07 07:33:27 PM  
This is the most rational, reasonable, and temperate essay written by an Obama supporter you'll find anywhere online.

That, and he's killed fewer Americans than Obama has killed with drones and he published HIS rationale without having to have the senate goad him into it.

He loves Obama, hates Christians, and digs gun control. I bet Chris Matthews is having leg tingles right about now.

Prediction: This guy is already being fast tracked for Atty. General in Obama's 3rd term.
 
2013-02-07 07:33:42 PM  
This reminds me of any of the countless ramblings  I get from inmates. They are all innocent and they have all been set up. It wears thin and makes you suspicious of anyone who says it.
 
2013-02-07 07:33:44 PM  

germ78: /oddly, Jeff Zucker was at NBC when that happened
//Zucker is now at CNN... hmm...


I just want to tell him good luck. We're all counting on him.
 
2013-02-07 07:34:02 PM  

Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.


Yeah it was awesome when he killed those 2 innocent non-cops.
 
2013-02-07 07:35:00 PM  
www.zodiackiller.com
 
2013-02-07 07:35:12 PM  

Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.




FTFY
 
2013-02-07 07:35:30 PM  
If he was going after the specific officers who wronged him, I could support him. If he was going after just police in general, I could understand. But killing innocent family members is farked up. fark this guy and his "good name".
 
2013-02-07 07:35:34 PM  
But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD,  he's got my full moral support.


So you're glad he killed 3 people - morally you support him killing more.
Wow.
Wow.


Meh, Cops kill people all the time. I bet you don't whine much about that.

When he's shot as many innocent people as the LAPD, then I'll reappraise my position on the matter.
 
2013-02-07 07:35:50 PM  

fredklein: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.  If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

Yeah. He should have just reported it to his superiors.


"Signed, Rollo Tommasi"
 
2013-02-07 07:36:11 PM  

noheadphones: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

Yeah it was awesome when he killed those 2 innocent non-cops.


allegedly
 
2013-02-07 07:36:23 PM  

jigger: Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?

He could have written a tell-all book, gone to the media, made numerous youtube videos, started a blog and a podcast, and gotten the word out. It might have started changes, maybe. This won't.


Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.
 
2013-02-07 07:37:16 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: Corn_Fed:  Go Dorner!

Did his manifesto seem venomous and rage-filled to you?



Yeah, I read it and had a very different reaction.  The guy seems to be level-headed, if obviously very pissed at this point.

The fact that, after five years of trying to whistle-blow within the system, and going through the proper channels, and NONE of us had ever heard of this last week, tells me that it was useless to try to try that avenue anymore.

His life and reputation was ruined, and was out of other options. I wish he hadn't targeted the daughter of his opponent--he lost his moral credibility on that. But if he'd stayed true strictly to those who were corrupting the system, he'd be deserving of a statue.
 
2013-02-07 07:37:17 PM  

Zoth: Molavian: Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.

Right?  The guy is clearly a gun-grabber.

Well, I'll admit that Dorners sort of lost points for that.

But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD, he's got my full moral support.

They've Farked with a lot of people and finally they Farked with the wrong one.

A well deserved comeuppance.

The police have already shot 2 innocent people (and tried to shoot a 3rd but were apparently too incompetent actually hit the person).

I think they're doing a pretty good job of justifying this guy's grudge against them.


Normally I'm not that person who roots for cop killers (and I'm still not.  This guy is off the deep end) but I can't help but feel that maybe the LAPD needs some sort of wake up call.
 
2013-02-07 07:37:43 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: "(LAPD Chief) Beck attributed a pair of shootings by police officers in Torrance, south of Los Angeles, to mistaken identity. In one of the instances, officers fired on two women who were in a blue pickup delivering newspapers, the Los Angeles Times reported."

Sigh.


i.imgur.com

Nope, totally not trying to kill the guy who knows about all the corruption, abuse, and racism.
 
2013-02-07 07:38:20 PM  

noheadphones: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

Yeah it was awesome when he killed those 2 innocent non-cops.


You liked that part too?

I bet the cop father of the woman he killed has some regrets right about now, wouldn't you say?
 
2013-02-07 07:38:42 PM  

Amos Quito: jigger: Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?

He could have written a tell-all book, gone to the media, made numerous youtube videos, started a blog and a podcast, and gotten the word out. It might have started changes, maybe. This won't.

Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.


Maybe. But the book had to come first. Or at least the podcasts. But now his message is going out in an entirely different context and it won't garner him much sympathy from the majority of regular dumbass Americans.
 
2013-02-07 07:38:49 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Watubi: Definitely some fodder for an investigative journalist, too bad there aren't any left

I wish he'd just found an eager young, idealistic journalist, and laid out these complaints for him/her.  Then he might actually have affected some kind of change in the LAPD.  Instead, people are dying needlessly AND his narrative is no longer particularly credible, since almost no one is going to look at this guy as a martyr.  He might have accomplished something as an actual whistle-blower though.


As documented in his manifesto, he sort of tried those things. And it got him nowhere.

As weird of a way it is, it is probably the most effective way to get people fired up about what he's talking about. I mean, just look at the reaction on Facebook (and Fark). Lots of people are finding his manifesto to be very convincing. Looks like he succeeded in some measure...
 
2013-02-07 07:39:24 PM  

Zoth: noheadphones: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

Yeah it was awesome when he killed those 2 innocent non-cops.

You liked that part too?

I bet the cop father of the woman he killed has some regrets right about now, wouldn't you say?


Damn, dude.
 
2013-02-07 07:39:32 PM  
Jesus
 
2013-02-07 07:39:44 PM  
Breaking News: The National Safety Service has issued a maximum security alert. A maximum security alert was just issued for most of North America, including Alaska, due to an unusual "perfect storm" of trolling factors. It's possible trolling could reach epic levels without warning, any time today. People on the internet are advised to seek shelter immediately, and if confronted, to avoid direct eye contact.
 
2013-02-07 07:40:10 PM  

fredklein: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.  If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

Yeah. He should have just reported it to his superiors.


Not what I meant, nor am I going to suggest a method.  This is just obviously wrong.
 
2013-02-07 07:40:27 PM  

germ78: ontariolightning: CNN at 8 pm will show the dvd he sent Anderson Cooper
Ratings galore.

I hope they've at least previewed it. This worked out so well for NBC when Korean guy shot up Virginia Tech.

/oddly, Jeff Zucker was at NBC when that happened
//Zucker is now at CNN... hmm...


They've opened the box.  Link here -

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t1#/video/us/2013/02/07/tsr-ex-cop- al leged-cop-killer-reached-out-to-cnn.cnn
 
2013-02-07 07:40:33 PM  
Amos Quito:
Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.


Yes.  CNN would have ignored a treatise on systematic corruption in the LAPD including names, dates, and times of felonies.  They would have never investigated such a package at all.

This disconnect required to believe this is staggering.
 
2013-02-07 07:40:34 PM  
My, brother, knows Karl Marx,
He met him eating mushrooms in the peoples park,
He said 'What do you think about my manifesto?'
'I like a manifesto, put it to the test-o.'

/obscure?
 
2013-02-07 07:40:52 PM  
that's a lot of reading but worth it. I love this man. if America was the great country the propaganda pushers pretend it is this affair would lead to our President having the entire PD in question under deep investigation. this would be the start of a new and better day.

when all is said and done it's going to be what Stevie Wonder sang all over again.

We are amazed but not amused
By all the things you say that you'll do
Though much concerned but not involved
With decisions that are made by you
But we are sick and tired of hearing your song
Telling how you are gonna change right from wrong
'Cause if you really want to hear our views
"You haven't done nothing"!


-- you know the rest. you've heard it for far too long.
 
2013-02-07 07:41:16 PM  

bogey: Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY


But to them, every cop is a bad cop.
FTFY.
 
2013-02-07 07:41:18 PM  
Serpico Snapped.
 
2013-02-07 07:42:08 PM  

Zoth: But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD,  he's got my full moral support.


So you're glad he killed 3 people - morally you support him killing more.
Wow.
Wow.

Meh, Cops kill people all the time. I bet you don't whine much about that.

When he's shot as many innocent people as the LAPD, then I'll reappraise my position on the matter.



They're pretty close, read up on how they shot up the newspaper delivery folks this morning.
 
2013-02-07 07:42:09 PM  

Etchy333: Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you're a vile and inhumane piece of shiat.

Well, at least he's competent to stand trial.  High IQ, even.


And yet Mr. Manifesto is more vile and inhumane than Wayne LaPierre.
 
2013-02-07 07:42:24 PM  

Amos Quito: Anderson Cooper Package



i50.tinypic.com

"There's gotta be a better way to say that."

 
2013-02-07 07:42:24 PM  
How is the MSM handling this on tv (I cut the cable this summer)

Online they seem to be being pretty fair, linking to the manifesto and not taking anything out of context.. Are they being the same on TV?
 
2013-02-07 07:42:41 PM  

Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?


a complaint and a lawsuit....


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
 
2013-02-07 07:42:44 PM  

LookForTheArrow: Breaking News: The National Safety Service has issued a maximum security alert. A maximum security alert was just issued for most of North America, including Alaska, due to an unusual "perfect storm" of trolling factors. It's possible trolling could reach epic levels without warning, any time today. People on the internet are advised to seek shelter immediately, and if confronted, to avoid direct eye contact.


This just in. Stay off the information highway until the trolls plows are done.
 
2013-02-07 07:42:53 PM  

Zoth: But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD,  he's got my full moral support.


So you're glad he killed 3 people - morally you support him killing more.
Wow.
Wow.

Meh, Cops kill people all the time. I bet you don't whine much about that.

When he's shot as many innocent people as the LAPD, then I'll reappraise my position on the matter.


Another troll?
If so, 10/10 you are talented.
 
2013-02-07 07:43:36 PM  

InitialCommentGuy: Amos Quito:
Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.

Yes.  CNN would have ignored a treatise on systematic corruption in the LAPD including names, dates, and times of felonies.  They would have never investigated such a package at all.

This disconnect required to believe this is staggering.


I don't know. I can see them ignoring it. They ignore all sorts of shiat, even stuff like that.
 
2013-02-07 07:43:59 PM  
Jennifer Beals, Serena Williams, Grae Drake, Lisa Nicole-Carson, Diana Taurasi, N'bushe Wright, Brenda Villa, Kate Winslet, Ashley Graham, Erika Christensen, Gabrielle Union, Isabella Soprano, Zain Verjee, Tamron Hall, Gina Carano, America Ferrara, Giana Michaels, Nene, Natalie Portman, Queen Latifah, Michelle Rodriguez, Anjelah Johnson, Kelly Clarkson, Nora Jones, Laura Prepon, Margaret Cho, and Rutina Wesley, you are THE MOST beautiful women on this planet, period. Never settle, professionally or personally.

rofl this guys giving shout outs to porn stars
 
2013-02-07 07:44:14 PM  

LessO2: , read up on how they shot up the newspaper delivery folks this morning.


Extra! Extra! Read all about it!
*ducks*
*gets shot a lot*
 
2013-02-07 07:44:18 PM  

Amos Quito: jigger: Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?

He could have written a tell-all book, gone to the media, made numerous youtube videos, started a blog and a podcast, and gotten the word out. It might have started changes, maybe. This won't.

Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.


TFA that you linked says they handed the parcel over to LAPD.
 
2013-02-07 07:44:37 PM  

KrispyKritter: if America was the great country the propaganda pushers pretend it is this affair would lead to our President having the entire PD in question under deep investigation. this would be the start of a new and better day.


We should encourage prospective serial killers to go through with their actions if it helps to provide them a platform for their political views.

cdn2-b.examiner.com
>Hot as Helter Skelter
 
2013-02-07 07:45:58 PM  

LookForTheArrow: Breaking News: The National Safety Service has issued a maximum security alert. A maximum security alert was just issued for most of North America, including Alaska, due to an unusual "perfect storm" of trolling factors. It's possible trolling could reach epic levels without warning, any time today. People on the internet are advised to seek shelter immediately, and if confronted, to avoid direct eye contact.


Do. Not. Know. Whether. To. Click. "Funny". Or. "Smart".

Brain hurts now.
 
2013-02-07 07:46:01 PM  

InitialCommentGuy: cdn2-b.examiner.com
>Hot as Helter Skelter


Looks like a teeny tiny Lt. Aldo Raine got him
 
2013-02-07 07:46:04 PM  
Everything else bieng equal, would this guy be such a FARK-Hero if he were white?
 
2013-02-07 07:46:31 PM  

self_made_hell: BarkingUnicorn: "(LAPD Chief) Beck attributed a pair of shootings by police officers in Torrance, south of Los Angeles, to mistaken identity. In one of the instances, officers fired on two women who were in a blue pickup delivering newspapers, the Los Angeles Times reported."

Sigh.

[i.imgur.com image 400x225]

Nope, totally not trying to kill the guy who knows about all the corruption, abuse, and racism.


Seems legit.

The car had it coming... or "going" as it were.
 
2013-02-07 07:46:44 PM  

Br34ch: Begoggle, maybe just go to sleep? You are going to be really agitated otherwise.

Therefore, drink milk, pee, proceed to sleep. I will say hi to you when you wake up tomorrow. Promise.


Just put him on ignore, I have him tagged as "cop fellating troll" now.  Easier than trying to engage him in his masturbation session.

jigger: Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?

He could have written a tell-all book, gone to the media, made numerous youtube videos, started a blog and a podcast, and gotten the word out. It might have started changes, maybe. This won't.


That would have just gotten him ignored or at best, killed.  Or do you think no other cop in L.A's history has ever tried to fight the corruption?  This guy's not even the 10th.  You can find their stories, but you have to dig a bit.   He's a crazed ant fighting an elephant thats destroyed his life trying to get the world to notice and hurt the elephant.  He will get noticed, not in a good way, he wont ever do shiat to the lapd, nothing ever will.  Nothing he or anyone else could ever ever do would ever fix the police in L.A.

You would have to destroy all of L.A with all the cops there in order to "fix" that problem.  You cant fix it, you have to burn it down to bare earth and replant new seeds.  And then pray that the earth isnt so corrupt that it infects the new growth.

Enjoy the show.  Nothing ever gets better and none of us makes it out of here alive.  Let that knowledge comfort you.
 
2013-02-07 07:47:03 PM  

you are a puppet: rofl this guys giving shout outs to porn stars

It's kind of sad I won't be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. What an awesome trilogy. Todd Phillips, don't make anymore Hangovers after the third, takes away the originality of its foundation.


And advice to Hollywood
 
2013-02-07 07:47:36 PM  

TomD9938: Everything else bieng equal, would this guy be such a FARK-Hero if he were white?


Would you have typed that if you weren't white?
 
2013-02-07 07:47:41 PM  
Dorner would fit right in at Fark.

In love with Piers Morgan, Chris Matthews and Anderson Cooper? Check!

Watches CNN and MSNBC like a religious zealot receiving divine instruction? Check!

Insane hatred for George Zimmerman and Wayne LaPierre? Check!

Control-freak regarding guns? Check!

Seething cauldron of barely-contained rage? Check!

Career failure? Check!

Relationship failure? Check!

Dorner the Establishment Liberal Rampage Killer.

He almost certainly has a Total Fark subscription and a couple of alts.
 
2013-02-07 07:49:07 PM  
From his rant, he seems like such a nice guy FOR A CRAZY PERSON.
 
2013-02-07 07:49:17 PM  

Br34ch: Begoggle, maybe just go to sleep? You are going to be really agitated otherwise.


Are you bothered by the fact that not all of Fark subscribes to the cop-hate?
Good.
 
2013-02-07 07:49:18 PM  
Dorner's call for a reset might come in handy. Or "ignore" as we call it here
 
2013-02-07 07:49:23 PM  

you are a puppet: TomD9938: Everything else bieng equal, would this guy be such a FARK-Hero if he were white?

Would you have typed that if you weren't white?


Is that a "No"?
 
2013-02-07 07:50:03 PM  

Langston: Some of it sounds totally rational and sane, but other parts of it sound sort of nutty.

One thing's for sure, though. This guy sounds dangerous as f*ck.


Gets nuttier once he decides he needs to wrap up every loose thought in his head before he doesn't have one anymore. The celebrity shout-outs make him seem crazier than he probably was not too long ago.

FTFA: "Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama. "

accelerus: this is just some big black guy who thinks the world is out to get him.


Uppity negro. Got it.

I mean, it must be because he's black right? Because no white guy has ever gone on a crazy killing spree when he felt his world had been turned upside down.
 
2013-02-07 07:50:21 PM  
I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.
 
2013-02-07 07:50:22 PM  
Bontesla:

Seems legit.

The car had it coming... or "going" as it were.


The vehicle was in the area of a protection detail dealing with a target who suggested using guerrilla tactics.  They were driving in the dark, passed up several homes in view of the detail, then pitched a parcel at the home of the protected.  They refused to ID, were running without lights, and proceeded to speed up as plainclothes came towards the car with guns and badges.

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.
 
2013-02-07 07:51:10 PM  

KrispyKritter: hat's a lot of reading but worth it. I love this man. if America was the great country the propaganda pushers pretend it is this affair would lead to our President having the entire PD in question under deep investigation. this would be the start of a new and better day.


I don't know if the LAPD is as bad today as it was during the Darryl Gates years, but to "forcing" them to reform would take a lot of willpower and effort on the part of the  State of California and the Feds...

/ the USMC could get the job done quickly...
// throw in a few SEAL teams as well..
 
2013-02-07 07:51:19 PM  

TomD9938: you are a puppet: TomD9938: Everything else bieng equal, would this guy be such a FARK-Hero if he were white?

Would you have typed that if you weren't white?

Is that a "No"?


Is that a no?
 
2013-02-07 07:51:28 PM  

InitialCommentGuy: Amos Quito:
Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.

Yes.  CNN would have ignored a treatise on systematic corruption in the LAPD including names, dates, and times of felonies.  They would have never investigated such a package at all.

This disconnect required to believe this is staggering.



LOL!

You think outfits like CNN don't get boatloads of bullshiat from "nutbars" every farking day?

What makes you think they'd pay some disgruntled fired cop any mind?
 
2013-02-07 07:52:33 PM  

bogey: Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY


Really, who is pro- bad cop except cops?
 
2013-02-07 07:52:38 PM  
This guy has a short fuse... maybe that's why he became a cop?

Thinking you should shoot someone for calling you names? Seriously? Punching a kid out who called you names in elementary school? Did I miss the part where he followed proper channels to tell a teacher about it? No? Oh, I'm sorry, your moral compass must be off. By all means, beating up kids at the first sign of being dicks is a totally morally correct response.

 I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the LAPD complaints are true. And I understand the anger and frustration behind it. But threatening to kill people's kids over it is stupid. They're kids, they're not responsible for any of this. But that's okay cuz his moral compass is pointed true north. (Or some-such dumbassery.)

 And I stopped reading at the political rant. This guy can't even stay on topic in his "manifesto", so guess it's pretty safe to call him "nuts" and move on.

/whatever complaints he has about the LAPD is lost under the douchebaggery he filled his manifesto with.
 
2013-02-07 07:53:48 PM  
Aside from the whole killing innocent people thing, I was fascinated by his manifesto. It didn't seem crazy or wackadoodle. He made some very valid arguments regarding his perception of his situation. He probably should have found a more constructive way to vent is frustration though. Also I liked his list of people he gave shout-outs to.
 
2013-02-07 07:53:54 PM  
I can empathize with him to a degree.
It was hard for me as a teenager to adjust to the lack of justice and "karma" in reality.
This man was likely a great person, pushed over the edge by a world he wasn't willing to accept.

Although, he lost me towards the end though with the shoutouts. Perhaps that's the "crazy" part of him.
 
2013-02-07 07:54:08 PM  
Amos Quito:

LOL!

You think outfits like CNN don't get boatloads of bullshiat from "nutbars" every farking day?

What makes you think they'd pay some disgruntled fired cop any mind?


Logic.  If he didn't fill the package with the nonsensical manifesto and put in 'just the facts'?  He would have been easily vetted within 30 minutes and two phone calls.  Random Nut doesn't have so much information, and isn't a former LAPD beat walker.

Again, disconnect.
 
2013-02-07 07:54:13 PM  

SarcasticFark: Methinks this crazy mofo has seen Rambo a few too many times.


I wonder if he's seen Falling Down?
 
2013-02-07 07:54:46 PM  

TomD9938: Everything else bieng equal, would this guy be such a FARK-Hero if he were white?


What?!

He isn't white?!

*swoons* *wets pants* *grabs guns*
 
2013-02-07 07:54:46 PM  

Zoth: noheadphones: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

Yeah it was awesome when he killed those 2 innocent non-cops.

You liked that part too?

I bet the cop father of the woman he killed has some regrets right about now, wouldn't you say?


Probably not, since he likely condones murder in the name of vengeance, being a cop and all.  That's your logic anyway.
 
2013-02-07 07:55:20 PM  
Strange part is since he's gave a shout-out to John & Ken from KFI-AM in there they've actually been somewhat sympathetic, delving into his original complaints against the LAPD & how that termination on the abuse report boned his Security Clearance with the Navy & snowballed...
 
2013-02-07 07:56:02 PM  
well, that was a full bucket of crazy.

if you find yourself
a) in the manifesto portion of your life, and
b) that manifesto involves Tebow, Chris Rock, and Kelly Clarkson

you've really, really, really mismanaged your crazy-freakout time. you only get one of these, for chrissakes.


Larry David, I agree. 72-82 degrees is way to hot in a residence. 68 , degrees is perfect.

what in the actual factual fark.

i get the reference, i'm just baffled that it's showing up in somebody's 'Ok, i'ma killa buncha people now' missive.

i can understand the Take-5 thing, tho.
 
2013-02-07 07:56:37 PM  

accelerus: i read bits and pieces --


this is just some big black guy who thinks the world is out to get him. He got pissed his whinging and biatching didn't get taken seriously and is using it as an excuse to murder innocent people.

He thinks the world owes him something for being black.



He's your reason for a ban. All wrapped up, nice and neat.

"If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. "
 
2013-02-07 07:57:36 PM  
Another troll?
If so, 10/10 you are talented.


Not trolling at all.

I just don't care for thugs (with or without badges) and think it's funny as all hell to see them getting served what they are so used to dishing out.
 
2013-02-07 07:58:09 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Gets nuttier once he decides he needs to wrap up every loose thought in his head before he doesn't have one anymore. The celebrity shout-outs make him seem crazier than he probably was not too long ago.


I was half expecting him to ask for naked photos of Bea Arthur.
 
2013-02-07 07:58:15 PM  

wambu: bogey: Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

Really, who is pro- bad cop except cops?


Snivelling toadies, bootlickers, and those that get their jollies from unbridled authority.
 
2013-02-07 07:58:16 PM  
too bad. i would have enjoyed a beer or four with the guy, I think

sad he snapped when he felt like he had nowhere else to go but crazytown
 
2013-02-07 07:58:35 PM  
I was really hoping for some 'usual suspects new york city's finest taxi service' type of whistle blowing. I hope he has more to say, if he makes to any kind of holding cell.
 
2013-02-07 07:58:52 PM  
Wow.

This guy Dorners might be a bit off the deep end, but WTF is the LAPD doing ramming and shooting up vehicles on the merest hint Dorners might be in the vehicle?!?!? This is like one of those bad 80s movies where the ex-cop is fighting a corrupt police department, which is throwing every effort.... geez.

LA has always been "La-La" land, but I think it's safe to say there are some very nasty things going on right now.

There are no good guys here. Dorners has taken the law into his own hands and doesn't care about the collateral damage, and the LAPD thinks it is open season to kill a rogue cop who "crossed the blue line".

There certainly is substance in Dorners' charges, and the way the LAPD is handling this, it's clear that part of his "manifesto" is completely accurate (still doesn't justify his crimes, though). Honestly, the State of California needs to step in with the State Police and National Guardsmen and shut them down right now before more innocents die. The Governor can use the excuse that he is simply putting the LAPD, all potential targets, into protective custody. House them on Alcatraz, and don't let them off until Dorners is in custody (or dead) and after his charges have been investigated.

I've stated this before here on Fark - Cops, prosecutors, judges who pervert the law to send KNOWN innocent people to jail should suffer the penalties they inflicted - if for no other reason than that they allowed the actual criminal to walk free. Corruption cannot be tolerated. Police officers ramming and firing on vehicles without concern? That shows a level of corruption that cannot be allowed to continue.
 
2013-02-07 07:59:30 PM  

Begoggle: Zoth: Molavian: Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.

Right?  The guy is clearly a gun-grabber.

Well, I'll admit that Dorners sort of lost points for that.

But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD,  he's got my full moral support.


So you're glad he killed 3 people - morally you support him killing more.
Wow.
Wow.


You morally support the troops - morally you support them killing people.
 
2013-02-07 07:59:42 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor?


Those 2 items are illegal in California, so you see the ban worked.
 
2013-02-07 07:59:47 PM  

Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

But to them, every cop is a bad cop.
FTFY.


You really believe Drew is some kind of rabid cop hater? You've been here nearly as long as I have and I can't think of one single thing the man has ever said to even remotely support that assertion. If you have quotes I'd love to see them.
 
2013-02-07 08:00:34 PM  
Who needs a semi-auto rifle with 30 bullets? Anyone on this guys shiat list.
 
2013-02-07 08:01:06 PM  

Begoggle: Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti-cop for years now.


It's the top story on every news site right now.

I seem to remember a lot of recent greenlit stories about Twinkies.
Is Fark anti-Twinkie? I doubt it.
 
2013-02-07 08:01:10 PM  
A police man performs ONE act of bravery in his life, and that's when they take the Oath. Any innocents they shoot afterwards are just in the Line of Duty.

/how it's done
 
2013-02-07 08:01:16 PM  

you are a puppet: TomD9938: you are a puppet: TomD9938: Everything else bieng equal, would this guy be such a FARK-Hero if he were white?

Would you have typed that if you weren't white?

Is that a "No"?

Is that a no?


I dont think he'd be as elevated where he white former cop that had been shiat canned for smearing the name of a female officer.

It's pulling for the underdog.

And to answer yourfirst question, yes.
 
2013-02-07 08:01:36 PM  

bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

But to them, every cop is a bad cop.
FTFY.

You really believe Drew is some kind of rabid cop hater? You've been here nearly as long as I have and I can't think of one single thing the man has ever said to even remotely support that assertion. If you have quotes I'd love to see them.


Drew: Officer Duke Sucks
 
2013-02-07 08:01:52 PM  

InitialCommentGuy: Bontesla:

Seems legit.

The car had it coming... or "going" as it were.

The vehicle was in the area of a protection detail dealing with a target who suggested using guerrilla tactics.  They were driving in the dark, passed up several homes in view of the detail, then pitched a parcel at the home of the protected.  They refused to ID, were running without lights, and proceeded to speed up as plainclothes came towards the car with guns and badges.

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.


Solution? Shoot the car! Attack the car!

Yes. That's the solution.
 
2013-02-07 08:03:31 PM  
Probably not, since he likely condones murder in the name of vengeance, being a cop and all.  That's your logic anyway.

I suspect he feels differently about it when it's his loved ones getting targeted. (Unless the cop is the one doing the targeting of his own loved ones. They've got quite the problem with domestic violence, it seems.)

They always do.

Cops are awesome at justifying their own crimes while they nitpick at others.
 
2013-02-07 08:04:30 PM  
This was really interesting to read but then...


"It's kind of sad I won't be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. "

what the hell?
 
2013-02-07 08:04:37 PM  
Judging by the amount of trolls in here trying to ascribe his beliefs to all liberals, this guy must be on to something.
 
2013-02-07 08:04:49 PM  

you are a puppet: Jennifer Beals, Serena Williams, Grae Drake, Lisa Nicole-Carson, Diana Taurasi, N'bushe Wright, Brenda Villa, Kate Winslet, Ashley Graham, Erika Christensen, Gabrielle Union, Isabella Soprano, Zain Verjee, Tamron Hall, Gina Carano, America Ferrara, Giana Michaels, Nene, Natalie Portman, Queen Latifah, Michelle Rodriguez, Anjelah Johnson, Kelly Clarkson, Nora Jones, Laura Prepon, Margaret Cho, and Rutina Wesley, you are THE MOST beautiful women on this planet, period. Never settle, professionally or personally.

rofl this guys giving shout outs to porn stars


Ha!

Mmmmm....Giana Michaels.
 
2013-02-07 08:06:50 PM  
Trying to hold back right now 'cause I'm in LA.

/not the city
// a hooker
 
2013-02-07 08:07:12 PM  

The_Sponge: you are a puppet: Jennifer Beals, Serena Williams, Grae Drake, Lisa Nicole-Carson, Diana Taurasi, N'bushe Wright, Brenda Villa, Kate Winslet, Ashley Graham, Erika Christensen, Gabrielle Union, Isabella Soprano, Zain Verjee, Tamron Hall, Gina Carano, America Ferrara, Giana Michaels, Nene, Natalie Portman, Queen Latifah, Michelle Rodriguez, Anjelah Johnson, Kelly Clarkson, Nora Jones, Laura Prepon, Margaret Cho, and Rutina Wesley, you are THE MOST beautiful women on this planet, period. Never settle, professionally or personally.

rofl this guys giving shout outs to porn stars

Ha!

Mmmmm....Giana Michaels.


Can't fault him for liking Giana!
 
2013-02-07 08:07:13 PM  
I'd like to see other agencies get involved because I think it'd be best if he's taken alive, which the LAPD won't do. While his crimes are pretty bad regardless of the LAPD's behavior (murdering someone's family is indefensible), it would be nice to see someone actually investigate the LAPD as well. He might have all kinds of additional evidence, and I think he'd be willing to divulge it without being offered any kind of deal.

Best ending here would involve a trial for him but also a trial for those members of the LAPD he mentions, if there's any substance to the accusations at all.
 
2013-02-07 08:07:22 PM  
I'm about halfway through his "manifesto." Assuming most of it is mostly accurate the guy is too respectable to be an L.A. cop.
 
2013-02-07 08:07:37 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: Did his manifesto seem venomous and rage-filled to you?


Yeah somewhat.
 
2013-02-07 08:07:58 PM  
CNN not saying the cops who shot up those 4 innocent people killed anybody.  Only mentions 2 of them.


Nothing to see here.  Move along.
 
2013-02-07 08:08:50 PM  

Begoggle: Zoth: Molavian: Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.

Right?  The guy is clearly a gun-grabber.

Well, I'll admit that Dorners sort of lost points for that.

But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD,  he's got my full moral support.


So you're glad he killed 3 people - morally you support him killing more.
Wow.
Wow.


farm1.staticflickr.com
 
2013-02-07 08:09:11 PM  

Zoth: Probably not, since he likely condones murder in the name of vengeance, being a cop and all.  That's your logic anyway.

I suspect he feels differently about it when it's his loved ones getting targeted. (Unless the cop is the one doing the targeting of his own loved ones. They've got quite the problem with domestic violence, it seems.)

They always do.

Cops are awesome at justifying their own crimes while they nitpick at others.


You are justifying vengeance and acting above the law and yet decry it at the same time.   Not a bad troll though.  8/10
 
2013-02-07 08:09:18 PM  

Bontesla: Solution? Shoot the car! Attack the car!

Yes. That's the solution.


You are currently being hunted by someone who knows squad tactics, urban warfare, guerrilla and gangland attack methods.  A vehicle without lights rounds the corner, kills the lights, matches the description at a distance of your stalker, slow rolls your house...

That's Drive By 101, followed by short stop, fire, and get out ASAP.  The target stops, pitches out an unidentified package, then refuses to stop when approached by officers and attempts to flee.

That's completely normal behavior.  Yep, nothing suspicious there, and hell we should just continue our approach with guns in holsters with absolutely no offensive threat.

They refused identification and attempted to leave.  Was it the best response? No.  Was it a viable response? Yeah, sorry, it was.
 
2013-02-07 08:09:19 PM  

Mitrovarr: I'd like to see other agencies get involved because I think it'd be best if he's taken alive, which the LAPD won't do. While his crimes are pretty bad regardless of the LAPD's behavior (murdering someone's family is indefensible), it would be nice to see someone actually investigate the LAPD as well. He might have all kinds of additional evidence, and I think he'd be willing to divulge it without being offered any kind of deal.

Best ending here would involve a trial for him but also a trial for those members of the LAPD he mentions, if there's any substance to the accusations at all.


I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.
 
2013-02-07 08:10:14 PM  
I want this whole thing to be made into a film either by Terry Gilliam in the vein of Fear and Loathing or Tyler Perry.
 
2013-02-07 08:10:27 PM  
"I thank the unnamed women I dated over my lifetime for the great and sometimes not so great sex. "

<insert damn, someone got served img here>
 
2013-02-07 08:11:19 PM  

The One True TheDavid: I'm about halfway through his "manifesto." Assuming most of it is mostly accurate the guy is too respectable to be an L.A. cop.


The firs half is OK but the second half is pure crazy.

Don't get too specific about it or fark will pull your post like they just did mine. Lamers...
 
2013-02-07 08:11:22 PM  

Bontesla: Mitrovarr: I'd like to see other agencies get involved because I think it'd be best if he's taken alive, which the LAPD won't do. While his crimes are pretty bad regardless of the LAPD's behavior (murdering someone's family is indefensible), it would be nice to see someone actually investigate the LAPD as well. He might have all kinds of additional evidence, and I think he'd be willing to divulge it without being offered any kind of deal.

Best ending here would involve a trial for him but also a trial for those members of the LAPD he mentions, if there's any substance to the accusations at all.

I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.


don't worry, the LAPD will "find" some to justify his assassination.
 
2013-02-07 08:11:39 PM  

InitialCommentGuy: Bontesla: Solution? Shoot the car! Attack the car!

Yes. That's the solution.

You are currently being hunted by someone who knows squad tactics, urban warfare, guerrilla and gangland attack methods.  A vehicle without lights rounds the corner, kills the lights, matches the description at a distance of your stalker, slow rolls your house...

That's Drive By 101, followed by short stop, fire, and get out ASAP.  The target stops, pitches out an unidentified package, then refuses to stop when approached by officers and attempts to flee.

That's completely normal behavior.  Yep, nothing suspicious there, and hell we should just continue our approach with guns in holsters with absolutely no offensive threat.

They refused identification and attempted to leave.  Was it the best response? No.  Was it a viable response? Yeah, sorry, it was.


It's a viable response to pump any vehicle full of rounds because . . . the guy they're hunting is dangerous?

*lol*

No.
 
2013-02-07 08:11:40 PM  
I bet CNN views every tape sent to them by Joe Everyman.
 
2013-02-07 08:11:45 PM  
This guy has mental issues and I hope he's held responsible for his recent actions.

With that said, I hope the LAPD burns and burns brightly.
 
2013-02-07 08:11:51 PM  

wildcardjack: I want this whole thing to be made into a film either by Terry Gilliam in the vein of Fear and Loathing or Tyler Perry.


I hope it has Russell Crowe and Guy Pearce, and that farmer from Babe.
 
2013-02-07 08:11:56 PM  
Who drew first blood?

Lots of interesting points in the beginning, but it turned into one of those Academy Award speeches where the music is playing and the recipient is still thanking people towards the end.
 
2013-02-07 08:12:02 PM  

InitialCommentGuy: Bontesla: Solution? Shoot the car! Attack the car!

Yes. That's the solution.

You are currently being hunted by someone who knows squad tactics, urban warfare, guerrilla and gangland attack methods.  A vehicle without lights rounds the corner, kills the lights, matches the description at a distance of your stalker, slow rolls your house...

That's Drive By 101, followed by short stop, fire, and get out ASAP.  The target stops, pitches out an unidentified package, then refuses to stop when approached by officers and attempts to flee.

That's completely normal behavior.  Yep, nothing suspicious there, and hell we should just continue our approach with guns in holsters with absolutely no offensive threat.

They refused identification and attempted to leave.  Was it the best response? No.  Was it a viable response? Yeah, sorry, it was.


Hoooleeeeshiatballs. You are farking nuts.  I hope you are just trolling.
 
2013-02-07 08:12:08 PM  
Of course his 'manifesto' is going to ramble a bit - what would you write if you needed to cover EVERYTHING because you knew you were going to die? He is going to be shot by the LAPD, of course.

And for the record, the Oakland PD is about to be completely taken over by the Feds for being SO corrupt. While I don't condone murder, and he is obviously having mental problems (that he admits), he should not have killed anyone. Of course, tell that to a cop.
 
2013-02-07 08:12:08 PM  
Let's face it, most cops are low-class brutes who join to fulfill paramilitary fantasies.

There is no denying that there is a cop-culture that is protective of its own, at the expense of the truth or to society.

Most cops may be "good cops," but the bad cops number more than "just a few bad apples." I'd bet that 1/3rd of LAPD are bad cops.
 
2013-02-07 08:12:18 PM  

Agarista: I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.


Dorne's gonna die in a hail of bullets.  He's gonna die because he wants to die, and the cops are happy to oblige him.

The cops didn't shoot at a "random" vehicle.  They shot at a vehicle that matched a description of the suspect's, approaching them slowly with headlights off at 5:00 a.m., after something was thrown out of its window.  They aren't "willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties."  They're scared shiatless and trigger-happy.  I would be the same in their position.
 
2013-02-07 08:12:52 PM  

Snotnose: NewportBarGuy: I'm not reading all that sh*t.

It's actually somewhat interesting.  When I clicked I thought I'd just skim it to judge the kook level, but I ended up reading prolly 2/3 of it.

/ guy reminds me of Stevie King
// needs a farking editor


It would have been 100 times better if he'd had an editor. But who the hell would edit this without calling the cops on his ass? Incidentally, I got a green light!
 
2013-02-07 08:13:23 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Bontesla: Mitrovarr: I'd like to see other agencies get involved because I think it'd be best if he's taken alive, which the LAPD won't do. While his crimes are pretty bad regardless of the LAPD's behavior (murdering someone's family is indefensible), it would be nice to see someone actually investigate the LAPD as well. He might have all kinds of additional evidence, and I think he'd be willing to divulge it without being offered any kind of deal.

Best ending here would involve a trial for him but also a trial for those members of the LAPD he mentions, if there's any substance to the accusations at all.

I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.

don't worry, the LAPD will "find" some to justify his assassination.


And the assassination of others because committed the crime of driving the same type of vehicle he's spotted in.
 
2013-02-07 08:13:31 PM  

self_made_hell: BarkingUnicorn: "(LAPD Chief) Beck attributed a pair of shootings by police officers in Torrance, south of Los Angeles, to mistaken identity. In one of the instances, officers fired on two women who were in a blue pickup delivering newspapers, the Los Angeles Times reported."

Sigh.

[i.imgur.com image 400x225]

Nope, totally not trying to kill the guy who knows about all the corruption, abuse, and racism.


Holy crap.
 
2013-02-07 08:14:24 PM  

Bontesla: HindiDiscoMonster: Bontesla: Mitrovarr: I'd like to see other agencies get involved because I think it'd be best if he's taken alive, which the LAPD won't do. While his crimes are pretty bad regardless of the LAPD's behavior (murdering someone's family is indefensible), it would be nice to see someone actually investigate the LAPD as well. He might have all kinds of additional evidence, and I think he'd be willing to divulge it without being offered any kind of deal.

Best ending here would involve a trial for him but also a trial for those members of the LAPD he mentions, if there's any substance to the accusations at all.

I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.

don't worry, the LAPD will "find" some to justify his assassination.

And the assassination of others because committed the crime of driving the same type of vehicle he's spotted in.


yup
 
2013-02-07 08:15:26 PM  
wow, the former head of the LA police is on CNN right now and apparently this loon took a coin the chief gave him when he left for the military and shot it up and then sent it with a manifesto to CNN.
 
2013-02-07 08:15:26 PM  

moviemarketing: This was really interesting to read but then...


"<i>It's kind of sad I won't be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III.</i> "

what the hell?


Hangover III  will probably be the last Hangover movie ever made.
 
2013-02-07 08:15:31 PM  

Bontesla: I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.


What's the alternative? They're not dead? Someone else killed them at the very same moment this guy released his manifesto and went on the run? Someone else killed them and he took credit? Short of conspiracy theory territory, I just don't see any other reasonable possibility than him having done it. I mean, he says he's going after their families in the manifesto.
 
2013-02-07 08:15:35 PM  

InitialCommentGuy: Amos Quito:

LOL!

You think outfits like CNN don't get boatloads of bullshiat from "nutbars" every farking day?

What makes you think they'd pay some disgruntled fired cop any mind?

Logic.  If he didn't fill the package with the nonsensical manifesto and put in 'just the facts'?  He would have been easily vetted within 30 minutes and two phone calls.  Random Nut doesn't have so much information, and isn't a former LAPD beat walker.

Again, disconnect.



Bullshiat.

1. LAPD corrupt? LOL! So what else is new?
2. Former FIRED cop whines about corruption and doesn't get a "fair hearing"?  Not news.

CNN calls LAPD: "Oh yeah, he was a nutcase - a liar, misogynist, a racist and a bully. We had to fire him."
CNN: Sorry to trouble you, but we were just following up. Thanks for your time, officer

Not news.
 
2013-02-07 08:15:45 PM  
You are justifying vengeance and acting above the law and yet decry it at the same time.   Not a bad troll though.  8/10

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not justifying it.

I'm just applauding, it in this case.

By any moral measure (except for perhaps Jainism or Wah!Wah!ItsNotFairWhenSomeoneDoesItToUsism), the cops had this coming.
 
2013-02-07 08:15:53 PM  

you are a puppet: What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana's skull.

Ha! We need the FARK gun club in here to critique his suggested weapon and post pictures of their own gun collections and personal recommendations.



147gr seems a bit excessive...expensive even, for a 9mm shot you plan on wasting on two people you feel as though don't mean jackshiat to you.


Just my .02...

/yes I'm a gun guy
//no I will no post pictures of my collection
///shooting is cathartic for me
 
2013-02-07 08:16:16 PM  
I can't believe I read the whole thing...
 
2013-02-07 08:16:45 PM  
I was totally on this guy's side until

"Charlie Sheen, you're effin awesome."

Now I am conflicted.

Seriously, though - while I do not wish death on anyone, He is specifically targeting epic a-holes in the LAPD, an organization with a fairly clear history of epic corruption - corruption that has resulted in innumerable deaths.

I may find it hard to hope for his capture. I sort-of hope he remains uncaptured for a few months, as long as he doesnt kill any non LAPD.
 
2013-02-07 08:16:50 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Agarista: I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.

Dorne's gonna die in a hail of bullets.  He's gonna die because he wants to die, and the cops are happy to oblige him.

The cops didn't shoot at a "random" vehicle.  They shot at a vehicle that matched a description of the suspect's, approaching them slowly with headlights off at 5:00 a.m., after something was thrown out of its window.  They aren't "willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties."  They're scared shiatless and trigger-happy.  I would be the same in their position.


The only thing that really matched was the type of vehicle (ie. truck).
And if we allow them to shoot at all vehicles that drive "suspiciously" while being a truck - we're going to end up with a lot more victims. We should have higher expectations for the people we hire to protect our society.
 
2013-02-07 08:17:40 PM  
 
2013-02-07 08:17:50 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I would be the same in their position.


You should never be a cop.  Neither should any of these other cops.  You shouldnt have a CCL either, cuz your going to kill some innocent person when your feeling paranoid and feel justified about it.  But reality is you can carry a gun wherever you want, and your probably going to kill some black kid for asking for change or spilling a soda on your something stupid.

fark dude why you gotta kill people?  wtf is wrong with you?


/shiat dont kill me!
 
2013-02-07 08:18:32 PM  

flamingboard: Begoggle: Zoth: Molavian: Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.

Right?  The guy is clearly a gun-grabber.

Well, I'll admit that Dorners sort of lost points for that.

But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD,  he's got my full moral support.


So you're glad he killed 3 people - morally you support him killing more.
Wow.
Wow.

You morally support the troops - morally you support them killing people.


I give them all the HERO tag on Fark.
 
2013-02-07 08:18:33 PM  

Zoth: You are justifying vengeance and acting above the law and yet decry it at the same time.   Not a bad troll though.  8/10

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not justifying it.

I'm just applauding, it in this case.

By any moral measure (except for perhaps Jainism or Wah!Wah!ItsNotFairWhenSomeoneDoesItToUsism), the cops had this coming.


Wow his is much better than mine. My manifesto is like "you will not take the remote and change the channel when I take a leak. And no more 2 hour showers...
 
2013-02-07 08:18:35 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: NewportBarGuy: I'm not reading all that sh*t.

If he took that much time to write all that, I'm just gonna say he's guilty.

So you really don't believe that there is any chance that the LAPD would be racist and unfair in any way?  The guy's a nutjob and obviously he's airing his grievances in the worst possible way (would it be THAT hard to find a journalist who wants to break these big allegations, assuming they're true?!), but I have to admit that his rant isn't that far fetched.  Frankly, some parts of it aren't even all that surprising.


FUN FACT: The LAPD can be corrupt as all hell and at the same time this guy could be guilty of killing innocent people.
 
2013-02-07 08:18:44 PM  

Bontesla: It's a viable response to pump any vehicle full of rounds because . . . the guy they're hunting is dangerous?

*lol*

No.


If the target refuses to stop after being approached, declared, and directed to halt during a situation where the officers have identified as such and the target is now attempting to flee in an active shooter situation?

The tactics are acceptable per ASR guidelines.
 
2013-02-07 08:18:57 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-07 08:19:25 PM  
I'm surprised that this type of thing doesn't happen more often.

It's not that I want it to. I don't. The sad thing is it will because we tacitly approve of this kind of behavior in the U.S.
 
2013-02-07 08:19:36 PM  

bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

But to them, every cop is a bad cop.
FTFY.

You really believe Drew is some kind of rabid cop hater? You've been here nearly as long as I have and I can't think of one single thing the man has ever said to even remotely support that assertion. If you have quotes I'd love to see them.


I don't know if it's Drew or somebody else up there, but yeah it's pretty obvious with the number of anti-cop threads that get posted.
I don't know if he's really anti-cop, or they just generate a lot of hits.
 
2013-02-07 08:20:44 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Bontesla: Mitrovarr: I'd like to see other agencies get involved because I think it'd be best if he's taken alive, which the LAPD won't do. While his crimes are pretty bad regardless of the LAPD's behavior (murdering someone's family is indefensible), it would be nice to see someone actually investigate the LAPD as well. He might have all kinds of additional evidence, and I think he'd be willing to divulge it without being offered any kind of deal.

Best ending here would involve a trial for him but also a trial for those members of the LAPD he mentions, if there's any substance to the accusations at all.

I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.

don't worry, the LAPD will "find" some to justify his assassination.


Indeed. The dude is crazy and I hope he's stopped ASAP, but I also would love for him to be brought in alive. Both to pay for his crimes, and (if the corruption alleges is accurate) to aid with an investigation into the LAPD.

If he's still in LA though, I doubt that'll happen. Seems like the cops are in a "shoot first" mode right now, and it's hard to blame them given their own are being attacked, so he's pretty doomed unless he turns himself in (and maybe even then, depending how trigger happy they are).

Either way, hoping no more innocents get hurt. That's the priority.
 
2013-02-07 08:21:04 PM  

cuzsis: Did I miss the part where he followed proper channels to tell a teacher about it?


Yes.
 
2013-02-07 08:21:12 PM  

you are a puppet: Tebow, I really wanted to see you take charge of an offense again and the game. You are not a good QB by todays standards, but you are a great football player who knows how to lead a team and WIN. You will be "Tebowing" when you reach your next team. I have faith in you. Get out of that circus they call the Jets and away from the reality TV star, Rex Ryan, and Mark Rapist Sanchez.

God this is epic.


Seriously. Aside from liking Anderson Cooper, this guy rambles like the black GaryPDX.
 
2013-02-07 08:21:12 PM  

Amos Quito: Bullshiat.

1. LAPD corrupt? LOL! So what else is new?
2. Former FIRED cop whines about corruption and doesn't get a "fair hearing"?  Not news.

CNN calls LAPD: "Oh yeah, he was a nutcase - a liar, misogynist, a racist and a bully. We had to fire him."
CNN: Sorry to trouble you, but we were just following up. Thanks for your time, officer

Not news.


That is nowhere close to how that would play out, but alright.  There would be a confirmation, outside vetting, and verification by third parties.  Of course you believe that his tactics so far are acceptable to gain a look into his manifesto... So I'm not expecting much here.
 
2013-02-07 08:21:21 PM  

BSABSVR: HMS_Blinkin: NewportBarGuy: I'm not reading all that sh*t.

If he took that much time to write all that, I'm just gonna say he's guilty.

So you really don't believe that there is any chance that the LAPD would be racist and unfair in any way?  The guy's a nutjob and obviously he's airing his grievances in the worst possible way (would it be THAT hard to find a journalist who wants to break these big allegations, assuming they're true?!), but I have to admit that his rant isn't that far fetched.  Frankly, some parts of it aren't even all that surprising.

FUN FACT: The LAPD can be corrupt as all hell and at the same time this guy could be guilty of killing innocent people.


An intelligent post, what a rarity.
 
2013-02-07 08:22:52 PM  
Unfortunately this sort of rampage is going to become more and more common until we address the chronic shortage of guns in Obama's America.
 
2013-02-07 08:23:21 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Agarista: I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.

Dorne's gonna die in a hail of bullets.  He's gonna die because he wants to die, and the cops are happy to oblige him.

The cops didn't shoot at a "random" vehicle.  They shot at a vehicle that matched a description of the suspect's, approaching them slowly with headlights off at 5:00 a.m., after something was thrown out of its window.  They aren't "willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties."  They're scared shiatless and trigger-happy.  I would be the same in their position.


Neither truck matched the description at all. One was a blue Chevy pickup, the other was a black Honda king cab. The Honda was rammed and then riddled with bullets, and unlike most stories, we have no idea what happened to the passengers in those vehicles.

The LAPD is on a rampage.

There are procedures for dealing with known hostile occupants of vehicles. The LAPD have to deal with it all the time... none of those procedures involve what we've seen.
 
2013-02-07 08:23:32 PM  
Damn.


Get some.
 
2013-02-07 08:23:46 PM  

InitialCommentGuy: Amos Quito:
Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.

Yes.  CNN would have ignored a treatise on systematic corruption in the LAPD including names, dates, and times of felonies.  They would have never investigated such a package at all.

This disconnect required to believe this is staggering.


Wait until Amos tells you who he blames....
 
2013-02-07 08:23:52 PM  
I read it to the beat of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS0Rqw92DOc">Here We Come</a>.
 
2013-02-07 08:24:06 PM  

Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

But to them, every cop is a bad cop.
FTFY.

You really believe Drew is some kind of rabid cop hater? You've been here nearly as long as I have and I can't think of one single thing the man has ever said to even remotely support that assertion. If you have quotes I'd love to see them.

I don't know if it's Drew or somebody else up there, but yeah it's pretty obvious with the number of anti - bad cop threads that get posted.
I don't know if he's really anti-cop, or they just generate a lot of hits.


FTFY again
 
2013-02-07 08:24:18 PM  

Mitrovarr: Bontesla: I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.

What's the alternative? They're not dead? Someone else killed them at the very same moment this guy released his manifesto and went on the run? Someone else killed them and he took credit? Short of conspiracy theory territory, I just don't see any other reasonable possibility than him having done it. I mean, he says he's going after their families in the manifesto.


They're obviously dead. The question is by whom and for what?
It's equally plausible that the daughter has been helping Dorner collect evidence of corruption ever since he left the PD. He finally lands the "smoking gun" - which unfortunately implicates the daughter's father. She didn't expect this and tips her father that Dorner knows and he wants to expose the scandal. The father tips his co-conspirators who decide to tie up all the loose ends framing and discrediting Dorner.

Dorner hears about this on Sunday/Monday and freaks. He starts mailing out packages to famous people in the media (like Anderson Cooper) and starts running.

Naturally this is purely speculative. I'm saying that the story fits all of the evidence we have and is a plausible alternative to the narrative we're hearing about. In fact - it's slightly more plausible then a guy coming after someone's daughter for an incident that happened three years ago.
 
2013-02-07 08:24:22 PM  

LesserEvil: BarkingUnicorn: Agarista: I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.

Dorne's gonna die in a hail of bullets.  He's gonna die because he wants to die, and the cops are happy to oblige him.

The cops didn't shoot at a "random" vehicle.  They shot at a vehicle that matched a description of the suspect's, approaching them slowly with headlights off at 5:00 a.m., after something was thrown out of its window.  They aren't "willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties."  They're scared shiatless and trigger-happy.  I would be the same in their position.

Neither truck matched the description at all. One was a blue Chevy pickup, the other was a black Honda king cab. The Honda was rammed and then riddled with bullets, and unlike most stories, we have no idea what happened to the passengers in those vehicles.

The LAPD is on a rampage.

There are procedures for dealing with known hostile occupants of vehicles. The LAPD have to deal with it all the time... none of those procedures involve what we've seen.


Exactly..
 
2013-02-07 08:24:45 PM  

Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

But to them, every cop is a bad cop.
FTFY.

You really believe Drew is some kind of rabid cop hater? You've been here nearly as long as I have and I can't think of one single thing the man has ever said to even remotely support that assertion. If you have quotes I'd love to see them.

I don't know if it's Drew or somebody else up there, but yeah it's pretty obvious with the number of anti-cop threads that get posted.
I don't know if he's really anti-cop, or they just generate a lot of hits.


So, you don't think it's possible that when cops do evil things and that is in the news that there will be hate? Perhaps them saving puppy dogs and kitty cats should be the only greenlit threads, and just ignore the bad stuff... It'll just go away, right?
 
2013-02-07 08:24:46 PM  

noheadphones: Zoth: Probably not, since he likely condones murder in the name of vengeance, being a cop and all.  That's your logic anyway.

I suspect he feels differently about it when it's his loved ones getting targeted. (Unless the cop is the one doing the targeting of his own loved ones. They've got quite the problem with domestic violence, it seems.)

They always do.

Cops are awesome at justifying their own crimes while they nitpick at others.

You are justifying vengeance and acting above the law and yet decry it at the same time.   Not a bad troll though.  8/10


"If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for the law: it invites every man to become a law unto himself, it invites anarchy."  SCOTUS Justice Louis D,. Brandeis.
 
2013-02-07 08:24:56 PM  
Seems like a pretty normal guy. But lost his marbles. I probably wouldn't sleep well knowing he mentioned my name.


i452.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-07 08:25:23 PM  

Br34ch: Begoggle, maybe just go to sleep? You are going to be really agitated otherwise.

Therefore, drink milk, pee, proceed to sleep. I will say hi to you when you wake up tomorrow. Promise.


I also agree that he should drink pee.
 
2013-02-07 08:25:35 PM  

you are a puppet: What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana's skull.

Ha! We need the FARK gun club in here to critique his suggested weapon and post pictures of their own gun collections and personal recommendations.


Thats a bullet not a weapon.
/probably not the Weeners this response
 
2013-02-07 08:25:37 PM  
Here We Come.

/thanks new comment box
 
2013-02-07 08:25:47 PM  

LesserEvil: BarkingUnicorn: Agarista: I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.

Dorne's gonna die in a hail of bullets.  He's gonna die because he wants to die, and the cops are happy to oblige him.

The cops didn't shoot at a "random" vehicle.  They shot at a vehicle that matched a description of the suspect's, approaching them slowly with headlights off at 5:00 a.m., after something was thrown out of its window.  They aren't "willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties."  They're scared shiatless and trigger-happy.  I would be the same in their position.

Neither truck matched the description at all. One was a blue Chevy pickup, the other was a black Honda king cab. The Honda was rammed and then riddled with bullets, and unlike most stories, we have no idea what happened to the passengers in those vehicles.

The LAPD is on a rampage.

There are procedures for dealing with known hostile occupants of vehicles. The LAPD have to deal with it all the time... none of those procedures involve what we've seen.


What's a Honda king cab?
 
2013-02-07 08:26:02 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: I'm surprised that this type of thing doesn't happen more often.

It's not that I want it to. I don't. The sad thing is it will because we tacitly approve of this kind of behavior in the U.S.


"Tacitly?"  Y'know how I know you haven't read this thread? :-)
 
2013-02-07 08:27:00 PM  
It just doesn't get any better than this.  Even when he is finally shot on sight (probably while attempting to surrender) its just another dead pig.
 
2013-02-07 08:27:10 PM  

Bontesla: The only thing that really matched was the type of vehicle (ie. truck).
And if we allow them to shoot at all vehicles that drive "suspiciously" while being a truck - we're going to end up with a lot more victims. We should have higher expectations for the people we hire to protect our society.



Also, I would NOT want to be a large bald black gentleman in the vicinity of Los Angeles right now.
 
2013-02-07 08:27:36 PM  

bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

But to them, every cop is a bad cop.
FTFY.

You really believe Drew is some kind of rabid cop hater? You've been here nearly as long as I have and I can't think of one single thing the man has ever said to even remotely support that assertion. If you have quotes I'd love to see them.

I don't know if it's Drew or somebody else up there, but yeah it's pretty obvious with the number of anti - bad cop threads that get posted.
I don't know if he's really anti-cop, or they just generate a lot of hits.

FTFY again


LOL yeah right.  Whatever.  Why you white-knighting Drew?
 
2013-02-07 08:27:45 PM  
So Dorner has gone McAfee on us?
 
2013-02-07 08:27:55 PM  
It was an interesting read until it turned into a really farked up Oscar's acceptance speech. Be interesting to see if any journalists actually try to validate his claims - doubtful because there are no real investigative journalists anymore.

I actually found the stuff about LAPD corruption highly believable, but he obviously went off the deep end along the line. But go ahead, keep on blaming the guns - not the mental health issues in this country and the stigmatization of those who seek mental health assistance.

Oh, and the only proof you need that he is nuts - "The honorable President George H.W. Bush, they never give you enough credit for your successful Presidency."
 
2013-02-07 08:29:10 PM  

InitialCommentGuy: Bontesla:

Seems legit.

The car had it coming... or "going" as it were.

The vehicle was in the area of a protection detail dealing with a target who suggested using guerrilla tactics.  They were driving in the dark, passed up several homes in view of the detail, then pitched a parcel at the home of the protected.  They refused to ID, were running without lights, and proceeded to speed up as plainclothes came towards the car with guns and badges.

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.


Also known as exactly how people deliver newspapers.
 
2013-02-07 08:29:17 PM  
Until the aggregate body count > 20 I don't care.
 
2013-02-07 08:29:21 PM  

BSABSVR: InitialCommentGuy: Amos Quito:
Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.

Yes.  CNN would have ignored a treatise on systematic corruption in the LAPD including names, dates, and times of felonies.  They would have never investigated such a package at all.

This disconnect required to believe this is staggering.

Wait until Amos tells you who he blames....



REPUBLICANS!
 
2013-02-07 08:29:24 PM  

Amos Quito: Bontesla: The only thing that really matched was the type of vehicle (ie. truck).
And if we allow them to shoot at all vehicles that drive "suspiciously" while being a truck - we're going to end up with a lot more victims. We should have higher expectations for the people we hire to protect our society.


Also, I would NOT want to be a large bald black gentleman in the vicinity of Los Angeles right now.


Or a small Asian woman.
 
2013-02-07 08:29:31 PM  

occamswrist: The LAPD is on a rampage.

There are procedures for dealing with known hostile occupants of vehicles. The LAPD have to deal with it all the time... none of those procedures involve what we've seen.

What's a Honda king cab?


What a KING cab may look like?
cdn-static.cnet.co.uk
 
2013-02-07 08:29:33 PM  

Bontesla: They're obviously dead. The question is by whom and for what?
It's equally plausible that the daughter has been helping Dorner collect evidence of corruption ever since he left the PD. He finally lands the "smoking gun" - which unfortunately implicates the daughter's father. She didn't expect this and tips her father that Dorner knows and he wants to expose the scandal. The father tips his co-conspirators who decide to tie up all the loose ends framing and discrediting Dorner.

Dorner hears about this on Sunday/Monday and freaks. He starts mailing out packages to famous people in the media (like Anderson Cooper) and starts running.

Naturally this is purely speculative. I'm saying that the story fits all of the evidence we have and is a plausible alternative to the narrative we're hearing about. In fact - it's slightly more plausible then a guy coming after someone's daughter for an incident that happened three years ago.


Doesn't make sense given the manifesto. If that had happened he would have been less 'grar I'm coming after your kids' and more 'holy crap these people are dangerous they murder their own children to silence them'.
 
2013-02-07 08:29:38 PM  

Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?


Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.
 
2013-02-07 08:29:53 PM  
So, what percentage of people are rooting for the ex-cop?
 
2013-02-07 08:30:23 PM  
The LAPD shot 47 people in just 2011.

Chris Dorners - 3
LAPD -  ∞
 
2013-02-07 08:30:27 PM  

HighlanderRPI: It was an interesting read until it turned into a really farked up Oscar's acceptance speech. Be interesting to see if any journalists actually try to validate his claims - doubtful because there are no real investigative journalists anymore.

I actually found the stuff about LAPD corruption highly believable, but he obviously went off the deep end along the line. But go ahead, keep on blaming the guns - not the mental health issues in this country and the stigmatization of those who seek mental health assistance.

Oh, and the only proof you need that he is nuts - "The honorable President George H.W. Bush, they never give you enough credit for your successful Presidency."


In my manifesto I'm calling out Millard Fillmore.
 
2013-02-07 08:30:46 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: KiwDaWabbit: I'm surprised that this type of thing doesn't happen more often.

It's not that I want it to. I don't. The sad thing is it will because we tacitly approve of this kind of behavior in the U.S.

"Tacitly?"  Y'know how I know you haven't read this thread? :-)


You are most certainly the thread / dictionary reading police today.

Well, it's your lucky day. I'm the statistical police, and this thread is much to small of a sample to discern much of anything with regards to national trends.
 
2013-02-07 08:30:54 PM  
What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana's skull.

And that's where he lost me.  The words were all more or less spelled correctly up to that point, even if they weren't used correctly (he says spurned when he means spurred).  It got iffy when he said he lunged over the seat and tried to strangle the n-word guy.

Kids, let's see where he went wrong.

Other Cop: n*****, n*****, n*****, n*****, n*****
This Guy: Please don't say that word, it's offensive.
Other Cop: I'll say it when I want to say it.

Measured response: You're on report, shiat-for-brains, and I'm going to make it a point not to like you.
His response: "You have failed me for the last time!" *choke*
His ideal response: BOOM!  Headshot.

Also, that much attention to detail concerning exactly which type of bullet and powder load (I'm assuming that's what the grain-stuff is) is kinda eerie.  Also, the way he phrases it makes it sound like he was going to use the same bullet for each skull.  That's economical.
 
2013-02-07 08:31:05 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: I wish he'd just found an eager young, idealistic journalist, and laid out these complaints for him/her. Then he might actually have affected some kind of change in the LAPD


no, not so much.  I know a very capable journalist, whom I've talked to about being sexually assaulted by LAPD last year.  She's working with a few other people who also were.  I've pretty much decided to just let it go, since about a week later the Orange County crap happened, and I knew that it would just mean countless months of my time, harrassment, etc - and I'd accomplish absolutely nothing.  I'll talk to a couple journalists, sure, but they won't get anywhere.  I wouldn't get anywhere if I tried, either.  I stay out of LA - and OC, too - as much as I can now.

I do think it's cute you still believe in the press, though!
 
2013-02-07 08:31:13 PM  

bogey: Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?

Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.


LOL except I'm not.
Hell, you can read this very thread with all the cop hate.  Can't you?
 
2013-02-07 08:32:22 PM  

occamswrist: LesserEvil: BarkingUnicorn: Agarista: I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.

Dorne's gonna die in a hail of bullets.  He's gonna die because he wants to die, and the cops are happy to oblige him.

The cops didn't shoot at a "random" vehicle.  They shot at a vehicle that matched a description of the suspect's, approaching them slowly with headlights off at 5:00 a.m., after something was thrown out of its window.  They aren't "willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties."  They're scared shiatless and trigger-happy.  I would be the same in their position.

Neither truck matched the description at all. One was a blue Chevy pickup, the other was a black Honda king cab. The Honda was rammed and then riddled with bullets, and unlike most stories, we have no idea what happened to the passengers in those vehicles.

The LAPD is on a rampage.

There are procedures for dealing with known hostile occupants of vehicles. The LAPD have to deal with it all the time... none of those procedures involve what we've seen.

What's a Honda king cab?


Whatever the hell this monstrosity is:

img2u.info
Honda version of a Chevy Avalanche? I just called it that because it's a 4-door truck.

The other vehicle (Blue Chevy) that somehow looks like a "black Scion Pickup":

img2u.info

...of course, these cops are trusted to offer eye witness testimony in traffic stops without question. They can't even properly identify vehicles or even the color of those vehicles. WTF?
 
2013-02-07 08:32:28 PM  

InitialCommentGuy: Amos Quito: Bullshiat.

1. LAPD corrupt? LOL! So what else is new?
2. Former FIRED cop whines about corruption and doesn't get a "fair hearing"?  Not news.

CNN calls LAPD: "Oh yeah, he was a nutcase - a liar, misogynist, a racist and a bully. We had to fire him."
CNN: Sorry to trouble you, but we were just following up. Thanks for your time, officer

Not news.

That is nowhere close to how that would play out, but alright.  There would be a confirmation, outside vetting, and verification by third parties.  Of course you believe that his tactics so far are acceptable to gain a look into his manifesto... So I'm not expecting much here.



I believe that his tactics are acceptable?

No, what I believe, sir, is that you are a naive fool.
 
2013-02-07 08:32:31 PM  

NewportBarGuy: To be honest? I don't really care if it's true. Sure, some reporter should look into it to make sure.


A reporter?

True or not, police investigators should look into it.

Yeah, yeah - police investigating police, but tjhey should do it
 
2013-02-07 08:32:36 PM  

Mitrovarr: Bontesla: They're obviously dead. The question is by whom and for what?
It's equally plausible that the daughter has been helping Dorner collect evidence of corruption ever since he left the PD. He finally lands the "smoking gun" - which unfortunately implicates the daughter's father. She didn't expect this and tips her father that Dorner knows and he wants to expose the scandal. The father tips his co-conspirators who decide to tie up all the loose ends framing and discrediting Dorner.

Dorner hears about this on Sunday/Monday and freaks. He starts mailing out packages to famous people in the media (like Anderson Cooper) and starts running.

Naturally this is purely speculative. I'm saying that the story fits all of the evidence we have and is a plausible alternative to the narrative we're hearing about. In fact - it's slightly more plausible then a guy coming after someone's daughter for an incident that happened three years ago.

Doesn't make sense given the manifesto. If that had happened he would have been less 'grar I'm coming after your kids' and more 'holy crap these people are dangerous they murder their own children to silence them'.


Not at all. Dorner knows he's going to destroy families once he exposes the corruption. In his manifesto - he urges his enemies to come clean with their families. He seems to be indicating that he doesn't intend on killing them.
 
2013-02-07 08:32:39 PM  

wambu: bogey: Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

Really, who is pro- bad cop except cops?


Most of Maricopa County, AZ.
 
2013-02-07 08:32:50 PM  

orclover: /shiat dont kill me!


remember when "don't taze me, bro!" seemed like enough of a request?
 
2013-02-07 08:32:53 PM  

Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?

Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.

LOL except I'm not.
Hell, you can read this very thread with all the cop hate.  Can't you?


And not one word from Drew.
You are full of shiat.
 
2013-02-07 08:33:07 PM  

DynoFARKjr: "I thank the unnamed women I dated over my lifetime for the great and sometimes not so great sex. "

<insert damn, someone got served img here>


He strikes me as sexually ambiguous.  He never mentions one special person he was close to.
 
2013-02-07 08:33:38 PM  
BSABSVR:

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.

Also known as exactly how people deliver newspapers.


Really?  Lots of paperboys who decide, when they are flagged down, to attempt to full speed out of the area?

The shots are all to the rear of the vehicle and the scene extends over quite a wide area.  Looks like the cops firing had to continue firing for quite awhile before the truck rolled to a stop.  You would assume the first spotting/flagging down would stop you.  Or the second, or the first shots.

But these people decided to get out toot sweet.  Not normal delivery boy behavior.
 
2013-02-07 08:34:33 PM  

vabeard: DynoFARKjr: "I thank the unnamed women I dated over my lifetime for the great and sometimes not so great sex. "

<insert damn, someone got served img here>

He strikes me as sexually ambiguous.  He never mentions one special person he was close to.


In other words he was single?
 
2013-02-07 08:34:39 PM  

ISO15693: I was totally on this guy's side until

"Charlie Sheen, you're effin awesome."

Now I am conflicted.

Seriously, though - while I do not wish death on anyone, He is specifically targeting epic a-holes in the LAPD, an organization with a fairly clear history of epic corruption - corruption that has resulted in innumerable deaths.

I may find it hard to hope for his capture. I sort-of hope he remains uncaptured for a few months, as long as he doesnt kill any non LAPD.


Like the woman he already killed?
 
2013-02-07 08:34:59 PM  

Bontesla: Mitrovarr: Bontesla: I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.

What's the alternative? They're not dead? Someone else killed them at the very same moment this guy released his manifesto and went on the run? Someone else killed them and he took credit? Short of conspiracy theory territory, I just don't see any other reasonable possibility than him having done it. I mean, he says he's going after their families in the manifesto.

They're obviously dead. The question is by whom and for what?
It's equally plausible that the daughter has been helping Dorner collect evidence of corruption ever since he left the PD. He finally lands the "smoking gun" - which unfortunately implicates the daughter's father. She didn't expect this and tips her father that Dorner knows and he wants to expose the scandal. The father tips his co-conspirators who decide to tie up all the loose ends framing and discrediting Dorner.

Dorner hears about this on Sunday/Monday and freaks. He starts mailing out packages to famous people in the media (like Anderson Cooper) and starts running.

Naturally this is purely speculative. I'm saying that the story fits all of the evidence we have and is a plausible alternative to the narrative we're hearing about. In fact - it's slightly more plausible then a guy coming after someone's daughter for an incident that happened three years ago.


Plausible speculation:   Dad found out his daughter was doing a dude old enough to be her Dad, killed her and fingered him.
 
2013-02-07 08:35:16 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: I don't know if it's Drew or somebody else up there, but yeah it's pretty obvious with the number of anti-cop threads that get posted.
I don't know if he's really anti-cop, or they just generate a lot of hits.

So, you don't think it's possible that when cops do evil things and that is in the news that there will be hate? Perhaps them saving puppy dogs and kitty cats should be the only greenlit threads, and just ignore the bad stuff... It'll just go away, right?


dude, you're being silly.  All the posts on all the threads are actually just made by Drew himself - you know that.  Discussion threads about major news items, in which the headline isn't at all anti-cop, are thus easy to use as evidence against Drew himself personally.  Since well, you know, the discussions are just him posting to himself and such and things and am I repeating myself?  Oops.
 
2013-02-07 08:35:32 PM  
uh... 11,400 words... can someone read it for me and summarize? i'm much too busy looking at pictures of cats.
 
2013-02-07 08:35:50 PM  

KidneyStone: I'm confused.  Is this a gun thread or not?


When guns are outlawed, will the LAPD still have guns?
 
2013-02-07 08:36:00 PM  

LesserEvil: occamswrist: LesserEvil: BarkingUnicorn: Agarista: I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.

Dorne's gonna die in a hail of bullets.  He's gonna die because he wants to die, and the cops are happy to oblige him.

The cops didn't shoot at a "random" vehicle.  They shot at a vehicle that matched a description of the suspect's, approaching them slowly with headlights off at 5:00 a.m., after something was thrown out of its window.  They aren't "willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties."  They're scared shiatless and trigger-happy.  I would be the same in their position.

Neither truck matched the description at all. One was a blue Chevy pickup, the other was a black Honda king cab. The Honda was rammed and then riddled with bullets, and unlike most stories, we have no idea what happened to the passengers in those vehicles.

The LAPD is on a rampage.

There are procedures for dealing with known hostile occupants of vehicles. The LAPD have to deal with it all the time... none of those procedures involve what we've seen.

What's a Honda king cab?

Whatever the hell this monstrosity is:


Honda version of a Chevy Avalanche? I just called it that because it's a 4-door truck.

The other vehicle (Blue Chevy) that somehow looks like a "black Scion Pickup":

...of course, these cops are trusted to offer eye witness testimony in traffic stops without question. They can't even properly identify vehicles or even the color of those vehicles. WTF?


I like to call it a Honda Pantyline. Even though I kind of maybe want one but only because its from Honda...
 
2013-02-07 08:36:18 PM  

bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?

Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.

LOL except I'm not.
Hell, you can read this very thread with all the cop hate.  Can't you?

And not one word from Drew.
You are full of shiat.


You're right, I shouldn't have said that about Drew.
Like I said, he probably just likes the hits/ad revenue that such threads bring.
 
2013-02-07 08:36:24 PM  

InitialCommentGuy: BSABSVR:

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.

Also known as exactly how people deliver newspapers.

Really?  Lots of paperboys who decide, when they are flagged down, to attempt to full speed out of the area?

The shots are all to the rear of the vehicle and the scene extends over quite a wide area.  Looks like the cops firing had to continue firing for quite awhile before the truck rolled to a stop.  You would assume the first spotting/flagging down would stop you.  Or the second, or the first shots.

But these people decided to get out toot sweet.  Not normal delivery boy behavior.


I know my first reaction when being shot at would be to stop and ask the shooter why they are shooting at me... O.o
 
2013-02-07 08:36:38 PM  

basemetal: So, what percentage of people are rooting for the ex-cop?


Zero; only animals do that.
 
2013-02-07 08:36:43 PM  

KidneyStone: I'm confused.  Is this a gun thread or not?


BAN A SALTED NUTS NOW!
 
2013-02-07 08:37:03 PM  

Bontesla: Mitrovarr: Bontesla: They're obviously dead. The question is by whom and for what?
It's equally plausible that the daughter has been helping Dorner collect evidence of corruption ever since he left the PD. He finally lands the "smoking gun" - which unfortunately implicates the daughter's father. She didn't expect this and tips her father that Dorner knows and he wants to expose the scandal. The father tips his co-conspirators who decide to tie up all the loose ends framing and discrediting Dorner.

Dorner hears about this on Sunday/Monday and freaks. He starts mailing out packages to famous people in the media (like Anderson Cooper) and starts running.

Naturally this is purely speculative. I'm saying that the story fits all of the evidence we have and is a plausible alternative to the narrative we're hearing about. In fact - it's slightly more plausible then a guy coming after someone's daughter for an incident that happened three years ago.

Doesn't make sense given the manifesto. If that had happened he would have been less 'grar I'm coming after your kids' and more 'holy crap these people are dangerous they murder their own children to silence them'.

Not at all. Dorner knows he's going to destroy families once he exposes the corruption. In his manifesto - he urges his enemies to come clean with their families. He seems to be indicating that he doesn't intend on killing them.


Uh no. In his manifesto he specifically says he's going after their family members.
 
2013-02-07 08:37:26 PM  
ontariolightning

OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.
No worries. You still have Ted Nugent.

"Conservative" Body Count:
Ted Nugent - 0


Liberal Body Count:
Ted Kaczynski [liberal eco wacko]
- 3 murders / 23+ injured

Andrew Joseph Stack III [anti bush/business]
- 1 murder / 13 injured

Lee Harvey Oswald [Communist]
- 2 murders / 1 injured

Floyd Lee Corkins
- Attempted mass murder (Family Research Center)

John Patrick Bedell [registered democrat]
- Attempted mass murder (Pentagon shooter)

James Von Brunn [anti-Christian, 9/11 'truther' who hated the Bushes and 'the neo-cons']
- Attempted mass murder (Holocaust museum shooter)

Bill Ayers [obama mentor / Weather Underground]
- Multiple terrorist attacks and murder of police officers

Carol Anne Burger [ huff-po writer]
Her last article stated "" Yes, those Christians and Palin fans -- they're the ones you have to watch out for"
- stabbed her roommate 222 times with a screwdriver before she killed herself.

John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo [ Nation of Islam liberals ]
- At least 10 murders
*blamed on white "conservative" man. The Police even refused to investigate j.a.m. even after his license plate was run at SEVERAL murder scenes. (Nice work chief moose)

"Occupy" riots
-Multiple shootings, murders, rapes.

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.


Amy Bishop [ Fanatical Obama supporter ]
- 3 murders / 3 wounded (mass shooting

Brandon Darby, David McKay and Bradley Crowder
- Arrested for manufacturing bombs for use at RNC 2008

"National Socialist Workers Party." (Note the word "socialist.)
- 6 million Jews
 
2013-02-07 08:37:54 PM  
wait, i think they're ani difranco song lyrics, all 11,400 words of them.
 
2013-02-07 08:37:59 PM  

IamAwake: HindiDiscoMonster: I don't know if it's Drew or somebody else up there, but yeah it's pretty obvious with the number of anti-cop threads that get posted.
I don't know if he's really anti-cop, or they just generate a lot of hits.

So, you don't think it's possible that when cops do evil things and that is in the news that there will be hate? Perhaps them saving puppy dogs and kitty cats should be the only greenlit threads, and just ignore the bad stuff... It'll just go away, right?

dude, you're being silly.  All the posts on all the threads are actually just made by Drew himself - you know that.  Discussion threads about major news items, in which the headline isn't at all anti-cop, are thus easy to use as evidence against Drew himself personally.  Since well, you know, the discussions are just him posting to himself and such and things and am I repeating myself?  Oops.


oops... i forgot... but didn't you just like release classified info or something? Drew may be coming for you now.
 
2013-02-07 08:38:44 PM  

Bontesla: Not at all. Dorner knows he's going to destroy families once he exposes the corruption. In his manifesto - he urges his enemies to come clean with their families. He seems to be indicating that he doesn't intend on killing them.


That isn't what I got from the excerpts I've seen so far.

Also, if that had happened, I'm pretty sure he would have specifically mentioned it. I can't imagine him not, actually, since he goes into so much detail about the rest of the corruption he saw. That would be one of the worst things, and one of the ones with the most evidence to verify it.
 
2013-02-07 08:39:03 PM  

Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?


Not murdering innocent people?  Or are you good with that?
 
2013-02-07 08:39:06 PM  
HindiDiscoMonster:

I know my first reaction when being shot at would be to stop and ask the shooter why they are shooting at me... O.o

Those cops just asked me to pull over.  Well, I'm not sure, maybe I should drive away as quickly as possible.

Sorry, but the people decided to attempt to evade for whatever their reasons are.  They chose the wrong time to try to evade.
 
2013-02-07 08:39:07 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: InitialCommentGuy: BSABSVR:

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.

Also known as exactly how people deliver newspapers.

Really?  Lots of paperboys who decide, when they are flagged down, to attempt to full speed out of the area?

The shots are all to the rear of the vehicle and the scene extends over quite a wide area.  Looks like the cops firing had to continue firing for quite awhile before the truck rolled to a stop.  You would assume the first spotting/flagging down would stop you.  Or the second, or the first shots.

But these people decided to get out toot sweet.  Not normal delivery boy behavior.

I know my first reaction when being shot at would be to stop and ask the shooter why they are shooting at me... O.o


Exactly. I'm not sure why the police are allowed to fire on a vehicle like that. Even if the occupants refused to come out or sped away, the cops seems like they've gone trigger happy.
 
2013-02-07 08:39:28 PM  

LesserEvil: "black Scion Pickup":


Sorry... dunno where I picked that up from.

At any rate, here is his truck:

i.imgur.com

Black Honda Titan, looking nothing like the vehicles the LAPD attacked. I think Dorners set it on fire and abandoned it.
 
2013-02-07 08:39:36 PM  

JRoo: KidneyStone: I'm confused.  Is this a gun thread or not?

BAN A SALTED NUTS NOW!


as long as you don't ban Bar Nuts, we're ok.

/mmmm Bar Nuts
 
2013-02-07 08:39:48 PM  

OnlyM3: ontariolightning

OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.
No worries. You still have Ted Nugent.
"Conservative" Body Count:
Ted Nugent - 0


Liberal Body Count:
Ted Kaczynski [liberal eco wacko]
- 3 murders / 23+ injured

Andrew Joseph Stack III [anti bush/business]
- 1 murder / 13 injured

Lee Harvey Oswald [Communist]
- 2 murders / 1 injured

Floyd Lee Corkins
- Attempted mass murder (Family Research Center)

John Patrick Bedell [registered democrat]
- Attempted mass murder (Pentagon shooter)

James Von Brunn [anti-Christian, 9/11 'truther' who hated the Bushes and 'the neo-cons']
- Attempted mass murder (Holocaust museum shooter)

Bill Ayers [obama mentor / Weather Underground]
- Multiple terrorist attacks and murder of police officers

Carol Anne Burger [ huff-po writer]
Her last article stated "" Yes, those Christians and Palin fans -- they're the ones you have to watch out for"
- stabbed her roommate 222 times with a screwdriver before she killed herself.

John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo [ Nation of Islam liberals ]
- At least 10 murders
*blamed on white "conservative" man. The Police even refused to investigate j.a.m. even after his license plate was run at SEVERAL murder scenes. (Nice work chief moose)

"Occupy" riots
-Multiple shootings, murders, rapes.

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.


Amy Bishop [ Fanatical Obama supporter ]
- 3 murders / 3 wounded (mass shooting

Brandon Darby, David McKay and Bradley Crowder
- Arrested for manufacturing bombs for use at RNC 2008

"National Socialist Workers Party." (Note the word "socialist.)
- 6 million Jews


Shouldn't some of the rapes cancel out some murders?
 
2013-02-07 08:40:43 PM  
Der.... I mean NISSAN Titan
 
2013-02-07 08:40:54 PM  
What is the max that the two innocent truck owners are gonna get when they sue the LAPD?  I hope it makes Rodney King's settlement look like peanuts.  Of course the cops responsible will be promoted following their lengthy paid vacation, because that is how the cop shop operates.  Maybe, just maybe it will cause them to settle for one or two fewer new tanks next year.
 
2013-02-07 08:41:17 PM  

pyrotek85: Exactly. I'm not sure why the police are allowed to fire on a vehicle like that. Even if the occupants refused to come out or sped away, the cops seems like they've gone trigger happy.


Welcome to the new Active Shooter guidelines.  In these situations immediate full force response is acceptable.  Could have been avoided by just pulling over and actually following the rule of law.
 
2013-02-07 08:42:58 PM  

InitialCommentGuy: pyrotek85: Exactly. I'm not sure why the police are allowed to fire on a vehicle like that. Even if the occupants refused to come out or sped away, the cops seems like they've gone trigger happy.

Welcome to the new Active Shooter guidelines.  In these situations immediate full force response is acceptable.  Could have been avoided by just pulling over and actually following the rule of law.


So they're sentenced to death then, is that it?
 
2013-02-07 08:43:35 PM  

utah dude: uh... 11,400 words... can someone read it for me and summarize? i'm much too busy looking at pictures of cats.


Bad shiat is going to go down until the bad guys take out the good guy turned bad guy.
 
2013-02-07 08:43:47 PM  

pyrotek85: InitialCommentGuy: pyrotek85: Exactly. I'm not sure why the police are allowed to fire on a vehicle like that. Even if the occupants refused to come out or sped away, the cops seems like they've gone trigger happy.

Welcome to the new Active Shooter guidelines.  In these situations immediate full force response is acceptable.  Could have been avoided by just pulling over and actually following the rule of law.

So they're sentenced to death then, is that it?


Think of it as a drone strike and it'll be obvious its perfectly legal.
 
2013-02-07 08:43:50 PM  
This should be quite the circus, especially if they capture him alive and put him on trial (unlikely.) I wonder if there will be riots? Those are always fun.
 
2013-02-07 08:43:53 PM  

InitialCommentGuy: HindiDiscoMonster:

I know my first reaction when being shot at would be to stop and ask the shooter why they are shooting at me... O.o

Those cops just asked me to pull over.  Well, I'm not sure, maybe I should drive away as quickly as possible.

Sorry, but the people decided to attempt to evade for whatever their reasons are.  They chose the wrong time to try to evade.


you know how i know you have never delivered a paper?

hint 1: it's hard to tell what someone is wearing at night with no headlights
hint 2: they (the victims) may not have spoken perfect english and as such may not have understood the commands being yelled at them
hint 3: when unknown persons pointing something roughly gun shaped at you in LA you flee unless you want to die that is
 
2013-02-07 08:44:21 PM  

Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?

Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.

LOL except I'm not.
Hell, you can read this very thread with all the cop hate.  Can't you?

And not one word from Drew.
You are full of shiat.

You're right, I shouldn't have said that about Drew.
Like I said, he probably just likes the hits/ad revenue that such threads bring.


He probably does like to make more money rather than less. The problem is, if he didn't post threads about a major story like this we'd have some other wackadoodle in here biatching about him ignoring it.
 
2013-02-07 08:44:35 PM  

InitialCommentGuy: HindiDiscoMonster:

I know my first reaction when being shot at would be to stop and ask the shooter why they are shooting at me... O.o

Those cops just asked me to pull over.  Well, I'm not sure, maybe I should drive away as quickly as possible.

Sorry, but the people decided to attempt to evade for whatever their reasons are.  They chose the wrong time to try to evade.


img2u.info

It was an undercover vehicle who RAMMED THEM FIRST (Note the damage on the side), then proceeded to get out and shoot up the vehicle.

As for the LAPD's story, are we really going to unquestioningly believe it, at any rate?

I'm no cop hater, but you have to be pretty stupid and blind to think there isn't something pretty damn bad going on right now.

As I said above, this story has no good guys, and the fact that one set of bad guys is the farkin' LAPD, should scare people.
 
2013-02-07 08:44:48 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: Bad shiat is going to go down until the bad guys take out the good guy

 
2013-02-07 08:44:58 PM  
pyrotek85:

So they're sentenced to death then, is that it?

Neutralization of the possible threat.  Sorry, but you don't run when flagged down, and don't act like a moron and try to run from cops with guns drawn.
 
2013-02-07 08:45:27 PM  

Bontesla: Not at all. Dorner knows he's going to destroy families once he exposes the corruption. In his manifesto - he urges his enemies to come clean with their families. He seems to be indicating that he doesn't intend on killing them.


err...except he said this:

"I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I'm terminating yours.  Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead."

Seems a little, um, like he was planning on killing their kids.
 
2013-02-07 08:45:48 PM  

Happy Hours: True or not, police investigators should look into it.


Absolutely. Just as soon as they scrape this dick off the pavement.
 
2013-02-07 08:46:03 PM  

InitialCommentGuy: BSABSVR:

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.

Also known as exactly how people deliver newspapers.

Really?  Lots of paperboys who decide, when they are flagged down, to attempt to full speed out of the area?

The shots are all to the rear of the vehicle and the scene extends over quite a wide area.  Looks like the cops firing had to continue firing for quite awhile before the truck rolled to a stop.  You would assume the first spotting/flagging down would stop you.  Or the second, or the first shots.

But these people decided to get out toot sweet.  Not normal delivery boy behavior.


Oh, you're cherry picking my comment. Then farking kill yourself. Better yet, go wander LA at night this week, you worthless bag of shiat.
 
2013-02-07 08:46:05 PM  

malaktaus: This should be quite the circus, especially if they capture him alive and put him on trial (unlikely.) I wonder if there will be riots? Those are always fun.


This is LA you know...
 
2013-02-07 08:46:14 PM  

rwfan: Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?

Not murdering innocent people?  Or are you good with that?



Yep. I'm totally on board with that, chum.

So you believe that the LA Cops are now totally justified for shooting at random pick-ups? Right?

/Tit for tat
 
2013-02-07 08:46:33 PM  

OnlyM3: ontariolightning

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.



yes, the white sheets were the libbiest libs who ever libed. disgusting to watch those anonymous bleeding hearts hiding behind their white sheets while out in FORCE supporting equality and justice for all. truly, a travesty. also note their atheistic angle of burning crosses which no jebus lover would ever condone

I live with my mom
 
2013-02-07 08:46:38 PM  
Begoggle you have some cop jizz on your face.

No, the other side.

You got it.
 
2013-02-07 08:46:58 PM  

Amos Quito: No where near as dangerous as the crazed mob that's hunting him


While on overtime ka ching . Lot of Officers going to have a new boat this summer.
 
2013-02-07 08:48:01 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Plausible speculation: Dad found out his daughter was doing a dude old enough to be her Dad, killed her and fingered him.


And dad killed the fiance too? And then Dorners didn't say anything about this in his manifesto at all, despite it being an itemized list of all of the crimes he believes his enemies committed?

Seems unlikely.
 
2013-02-07 08:48:13 PM  
L.A. proved too much for the man,
So he's leavin' the life he's come to know,
He said he's goin' back to find
Ooh, what's left of his world,
The world he left behind
Not so long ago.
He's leaving,
 
2013-02-07 08:48:15 PM  

pyrotek85: InitialCommentGuy: pyrotek85: Exactly. I'm not sure why the police are allowed to fire on a vehicle like that. Even if the occupants refused to come out or sped away, the cops seems like they've gone trigger happy.

Welcome to the new Active Shooter guidelines.  In these situations immediate full force response is acceptable.  Could have been avoided by just pulling over and actually following the rule of law.

So they're sentenced to death then, is that it?


When it's us or them, it's always them.  That's why the city has insurance and we have qualified immunity.
 
2013-02-07 08:48:19 PM  

OnlyM3: ontariolightning

OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.
No worries. You still have Ted Nugent.
"Conservative" Body Count:
Ted Nugent - 0


Liberal Body Count:
Ted Kaczynski [liberal eco wacko]
- 3 murders / 23+ injured

Andrew Joseph Stack III [anti bush/business]
- 1 murder / 13 injured

Lee Harvey Oswald [Communist]
- 2 murders / 1 injured

Floyd Lee Corkins
- Attempted mass murder (Family Research Center)

John Patrick Bedell [registered democrat]
- Attempted mass murder (Pentagon shooter)

James Von Brunn [anti-Christian, 9/11 'truther' who hated the Bushes and 'the neo-cons']
- Attempted mass murder (Holocaust museum shooter)

Bill Ayers [obama mentor / Weather Underground]
- Multiple terrorist attacks and murder of police officers

Carol Anne Burger [ huff-po writer]
Her last article stated "" Yes, those Christians and Palin fans -- they're the ones you have to watch out for"
- stabbed her roommate 222 times with a screwdriver before she killed herself.

John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo [ Nation of Islam liberals ]
- At least 10 murders
*blamed on white "conservative" man. The Police even refused to investigate j.a.m. even after his license plate was run at SEVERAL murder scenes. (Nice work chief moose)

"Occupy" riots
-Multiple shootings, murders, rapes.

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.


Amy Bishop [ Fanatical Obama supporter ]
- 3 murders / 3 wounded (mass shooting

Brandon Darby, David McKay and Bradley Crowder
- Arrested for manufacturing bombs for use at RNC 2008

"National Socialist Workers Party." (Note the word "socialist.)
- 6 million Jews


I know I shouldn't respond to the troll...
Nazism is extreme RIGHT, not left dumbass. The "socialist" was tacked on so it would be more appealing to a larger audience (part of the German propaganda wing).
The KKK was, and still is, ran by conservative rednecks. Democrats were not "liberals" and were WAY different back in the 40's than they are now. I suspect a large portion of your other "examples" are bullshiat too.
Learn your history before you start spouting off nonsense.
 
2013-02-07 08:48:48 PM  

occamswrist: pyrotek85: InitialCommentGuy: pyrotek85: Exactly. I'm not sure why the police are allowed to fire on a vehicle like that. Even if the occupants refused to come out or sped away, the cops seems like they've gone trigger happy.

Welcome to the new Active Shooter guidelines.  In these situations immediate full force response is acceptable.  Could have been avoided by just pulling over and actually following the rule of law.

So they're sentenced to death then, is that it?

Think of it as a drone strike and it'll be obvious its perfectly legal.



OF COURSE!!! LABEL HIM A TERRORIST!!!

Why hasn't the LAPD thought of that?
 
2013-02-07 08:48:57 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: Bad shiat is going to go down until the bad guys take out the good guy turned bad guy.


uh...

marklar marklar'd the marlars so the marklars need to marklar the marklar ?