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(Some Guy)   Ex-cop alleged cop-killer Chris Dorners, still loose and on a shooting rampage in LA, left this manifesto   (boywithgrenade.org) divider line 1001
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2013-02-07 07:09:29 PM
LL Cool J will play him in the movie
 
2013-02-07 07:10:11 PM
Some of it sounds totally rational and sane, but other parts of it sound sort of nutty.

One thing's for sure, though. This guy sounds dangerous as f*ck.
 
2013-02-07 07:11:55 PM
Why didn't he wait until the end of The Walking Dead's third season?
 
2013-02-07 07:13:17 PM
That loud bang you heard was Huntsman slapping his forehead upon discovering that he was this guy's candidate last election.
 
2013-02-07 07:14:16 PM
Having read the manifesto, which seems pretty clear-headed, and details real allegations of very serious corruption and racism within LAPD, am I wrong to want this guy to achieve some of his objectives?
 
2013-02-07 07:15:19 PM
Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.
 
2013-02-07 07:16:27 PM

Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.


You are sick.
 
2013-02-07 07:16:29 PM
Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.
 
2013-02-07 07:16:55 PM
i read bits and pieces --


this is just some big black guy who thinks the world is out to get him. He got pissed his whinging and biatching didn't get taken seriously and is using it as an excuse to murder innocent people.

He thinks the world owes him something for being black. He's not some honorable saint, he's a murdering piece of shiat, and I truly hope when they do catch him, they shoot on site and wait till he's dead to call the paramedics.

All this supposedly stems from a complaint he lodged about a suspect being kicked/abused... she he got all bent out of shape over that, but sees nothing wrong with putting bullets into people's brains?

The sad thing is I've known more than one black person that has this "I'm black, I'm oppressed, I never succeeded because of the color of my skin, everything I do is okay" way of thinking.
 
2013-02-07 07:17:04 PM

Corn_Fed: Having read the manifesto, which seems pretty clear-headed, and details real allegations of very serious corruption and racism within LAPD, am I wrong to want this guy to achieve some of his objectives?


Yes.
 
2013-02-07 07:17:12 PM
I'm not reading all that sh*t.

If he took that much time to write all that, I'm just gonna say he's guilty.
 
2013-02-07 07:17:23 PM

Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.


Right?  The guy is clearly a gun-grabber.
 
2013-02-07 07:18:06 PM

OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.

No worries. You still have Ted Nugent.
 
2013-02-07 07:18:18 PM
What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana's skull.

Ha! We need the FARK gun club in here to critique his suggested weapon and post pictures of their own gun collections and personal recommendations.
 
2013-02-07 07:19:18 PM
I guess the suspect posted it...but what proof is there he wrote it, it's just text.
His Facebook page?

Am I claiming something afoul?
No, I'm just asking what proof there is that this guy wrote it.
 
2013-02-07 07:20:06 PM
Well that settles everything. Give him his job back along with back pay and a promotion. I mean, damn. He's the good guy and those dead guys were getting in the way of justice.

I can't do it anymore. Shoot this M-effer on site and parade his corpse around L.A.
 
2013-02-07 07:20:25 PM

NewportBarGuy: I'm not reading all that sh*t.

If he took that much time to write all that, I'm just gonna say he's guilty.


So you really don't believe that there is any chance that the LAPD would be racist and unfair in any way?  The guy's a nutjob and obviously he's airing his grievances in the worst possible way (would it be THAT hard to find a journalist who wants to break these big allegations, assuming they're true?!), but I have to admit that his rant isn't that far fetched.  Frankly, some parts of it aren't even all that surprising.
 
2013-02-07 07:20:38 PM

Corn_Fed: Having read the manifesto, which seems pretty clear-headed, and details real allegations of very serious corruption and racism within LAPD, am I wrong to want this guy to achieve some of his objectives?


I can't say without knowing which objective you mean.
 
2013-02-07 07:21:36 PM
Begoggle, maybe just go to sleep? You are going to be really agitated otherwise.

Therefore, drink milk, pee, proceed to sleep. I will say hi to you when you wake up tomorrow. Promise.
 
2013-02-07 07:21:40 PM

zvoidx: I guess the suspect posted it...but what proof is there he wrote it, it's just text.
His Facebook page?

Am I claiming something afoul?
No, I'm just asking what proof there is that this guy wrote it.


Obama planned it all.  Had someone shoot the couple and the other officers. Framed him. He's actually dead. They just want people to be afraid for a little while longer. Then he grabs away grannies guns.

Kidding of course.
 
2013-02-07 07:21:44 PM

accelerus: i read bits and pieces --


this is just some big black guy who thinks the world is out to get him. He got pissed his whinging and biatching didn't get taken seriously and is using it as an excuse to murder innocent people.

He thinks the world owes him something for being black. He's not some honorable saint, he's a murdering piece of shiat, and I truly hope when they do catch him, they shoot on site and wait till he's dead to call the paramedics.

All this supposedly stems from a complaint he lodged about a suspect being kicked/abused... she he got all bent out of shape over that, but sees nothing wrong with putting bullets into people's brains?

The sad thing is I've known more than one black person that has this "I'm black, I'm oppressed, I never succeeded because of the color of my skin, everything I do is okay" way of thinking.


Yep, that's the sad thing about all this. That there are more uppity black people.
 
2013-02-07 07:21:47 PM
tl;dr

(well maybe a little bit, but not the whole thing)
 
2013-02-07 07:21:51 PM

Corn_Fed: Having read the manifesto, which seems pretty clear-headed, and details real allegations of very serious corruption and racism within LAPD, am I wrong to want this guy to achieve some of his objectives?



Considering he likely murdered innocent people during this rampage... Sorry, but yes. Yes, it's wrong.

And can we PLEASE stop giving these people the attention they want? It only encourages other psychos to lash out similarly.
 
2013-02-07 07:22:29 PM

zvoidx: I guess the suspect posted it...but what proof is there he wrote it, it's just text.
His Facebook page?

Am I claiming something afoul?
No, I'm just asking what proof there is that this guy wrote it


i47.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-07 07:22:43 PM

OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.


4/10. Would have only been 2/10, but you used the word leftist in conjunction with CNN, so you get a bonus point for that. You get another bonus point for conflating being someone's hero with agreeing with something that person once said.

Next time, try using more words like 'marxist' and 'fascist' completely out of context. I do think your work has promise, but this just feels a bit phoned in. I'm not quite feeling the frothing-at-the-mouth ignorance fueled rage. Looking forward to your future contributions though.
 
2013-02-07 07:23:05 PM
Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.
 
2013-02-07 07:23:05 PM
Tebow, I really wanted to see you take charge of an offense again and the game. You are not a good QB by todays standards, but you are a great football player who knows how to lead a team and WIN. You will be "Tebowing" when you reach your next team. I have faith in you. Get out of that circus they call the Jets and away from the reality TV star, Rex Ryan, and Mark Rapist Sanchez.

God this is epic.
 
2013-02-07 07:24:06 PM

RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie


I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.  If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.
 
2013-02-07 07:24:09 PM

Langston: Some of it sounds totally rational and sane, but other parts of it sound sort of nutty.

One thing's for sure, though. This guy sounds dangerous as f*ck.


No where near as dangerous as the crazed mob that's hunting him.
 
2013-02-07 07:24:11 PM

HMS_Blinkin: So you really don't believe that there is any chance that the LAPD would be racist and unfair in any way? The guy's a nutjob and obviously he's airing his grievances in the worst possible way (would it be THAT hard to find a journalist who wants to break these big allegations, assuming they're true?!), but I have to admit that his rant isn't that far fetched. Frankly, some parts of it aren't even all that surprising.


To be honest? I don't really care if it's true. Sure, some reporter should look into it to make sure. I'm hoping that comes after this guy gets blown away or he eats a bullet himself.
 
2013-02-07 07:24:34 PM
CNN at 8 pm will show the dvd he sent Anderson Cooper
Ratings galore.
 
2013-02-07 07:24:45 PM
Way too long. That guy is crazy if he thinks I am going to read that.
 
2013-02-07 07:25:03 PM
If he had just stuck to the LAPD grievances, this may be a little bit easier to swallow.
Still, the guy has a point...
 
2013-02-07 07:25:17 PM
This guy obviously has a victim complex and no idea what true justice is.

I'm sure he genuinely believes he's in the right, but when you become a cop, you swear to protect and uphold the Constitution. Killing anyone who offends you is pretty much a violation of everything you claim to have dedicated yourself to.
 
2013-02-07 07:25:27 PM
As a white guy driving a black scion tonight in LA, I'm concerned the LAPD might mistake me for Dorners and shoot up my car.


//kinda serious
 
2013-02-07 07:26:11 PM

lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.


What would you have suggested?
 
2013-02-07 07:26:47 PM
I saw this movie before, innocent/honest cop gets set up by dirty cops.

/There's two sides two this story
 
2013-02-07 07:26:59 PM

NewportBarGuy: I'm not reading all that sh*t.


It's actually somewhat interesting.  When I clicked I thought I'd just skim it to judge the kook level, but I ended up reading prolly 2/3 of it.

/ guy reminds me of Stevie King
// needs a farking editor
 
2013-02-07 07:27:30 PM

lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.  If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.


Yeah. He should have just reported it to his superiors.
 
2013-02-07 07:27:34 PM

ontariolightning: CNN at 8 pm will show the dvd he sent Anderson Cooper
Ratings galore.


I hope they've at least previewed it. This worked out so well for NBC when Korean guy shot up Virginia Tech.

/oddly, Jeff Zucker was at NBC when that happened
//Zucker is now at CNN... hmm...
 
2013-02-07 07:28:06 PM
Input error: Unable to determine who to root for.
 
2013-02-07 07:28:11 PM
"(LAPD Chief) Beck attributed a pair of shootings by police officers in Torrance, south of Los Angeles, to mistaken identity. In one of the instances, officers fired on two women who were in a blue pickup delivering newspapers, the Los Angeles Times reported."

Sigh.
 
2013-02-07 07:28:38 PM

Cuthbert Allgood: As a white guy driving a black scion tonight in LA, I'm concerned the LAPD might mistake me for Dorners and shoot up my car.


//kinda serious



With those trigger happy cops, I'd be nervous flying over LA in an airliner @ 30,000 feet.
 
2013-02-07 07:28:44 PM

NewportBarGuy: HMS_Blinkin: So you really don't believe that there is any chance that the LAPD would be racist and unfair in any way? The guy's a nutjob and obviously he's airing his grievances in the worst possible way (would it be THAT hard to find a journalist who wants to break these big allegations, assuming they're true?!), but I have to admit that his rant isn't that far fetched. Frankly, some parts of it aren't even all that surprising.

To be honest? I don't really care if it's true. Sure, some reporter should look into it to make sure. I'm hoping that comes after this guy gets blown away or he eats a bullet himself.


Then you're a blithering idiot.

Go Dorner!
 
2013-02-07 07:28:57 PM
Definitely some fodder for an investigative journalist, too bad there aren't any left
 
2013-02-07 07:29:16 PM
Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you're a vile and inhumane piece of shiat.

Well, at least he's competent to stand trial.  High IQ, even.
 
2013-02-07 07:29:29 PM

Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.


Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti-cop for years now.
 
2013-02-07 07:29:36 PM

NewportBarGuy: To be honest? I don't really care if it's true. Sure, some reporter should look into it to make sure. I'm hoping that comes after this guy gets blown away or he eats a bullet himself.


That's probably how all of this will end.  But, if he's right and the LAPD is that corrupt, then some light needs to be shed on that fact.  The problem is that by being a murderer and a scumbag, he's going to damage his posthumous credibility significantly.  My point is, this guy had a bone to pick, and it's hardly a stretch of the imagination to think that his allegations might be legit.  And that's why it does matter whether his manifesto is rooted in truth----this shiat needs to be investigated.

But his behavior is going to make the problem, assuming it exists, much harder to solve.  No politician is going to want to talk about investigating the LAPD now that the public's sympathy is on their side.
 
2013-02-07 07:29:59 PM

flamingboard: Input error: Unable to determine who to root for.



Just root AGAINST all current and former LAPD cops and you'll be fine.
 
2013-02-07 07:30:13 PM

Molavian: Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.

Right?  The guy is clearly a gun-grabber.


Well, I'll admit that Dorners sort of lost points for that.

But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD, he's got my full moral support.

They've Farked with a lot of people and finally they Farked with the wrong one.

A well deserved comeuppance.

The police have already shot 2 innocent people (and tried to shoot a 3rd but were apparently too incompetent actually hit the person).

I think they're doing a pretty good job of justifying this guy's grudge against them.
 
2013-02-07 07:30:29 PM

Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?


He could have written a tell-all book, gone to the media, made numerous youtube videos, started a blog and a podcast, and gotten the word out. It might have started changes, maybe. This won't.
 
2013-02-07 07:31:03 PM
Anyone remember near the end of the 1st season of The Shield where the Farmington division were coming under fire from citizens during 9/11 calls? And it led to a riot. Intense episode
 
2013-02-07 07:31:55 PM

Watubi: Definitely some fodder for an investigative journalist, too bad there aren't any left


I wish he'd just found an eager young, idealistic journalist, and laid out these complaints for him/her.  Then he might actually have affected some kind of change in the LAPD.  Instead, people are dying needlessly AND his narrative is no longer particularly credible, since almost no one is going to look at this guy as a martyr.  He might have accomplished something as an actual whistle-blower though.
 
2013-02-07 07:32:22 PM
Corn_Fed:  Go Dorner!

From google:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/los-angeles-cops-chris-dorners-manifesto-spe a ks/story?id=18434105" class="l" wrc_done="true" style="color: rgb(17, 34, 204); cursor: pointer;">Los Angeles Cops Say  Chris Dorner's Manifesto 'Speaks for Itself  ...abcnews.go.com ›http://abcnews.go.com/US/los-angeles-cops-chris-dorners-manifesto-spe a ks/story?id=18434105" data-title="Los Angeles Cops Say Chris Dorner's Manifesto 'Speaks for Itself ..." data-desc="The venomous and rage-filled "manifesto" written by former cop Christopher Dorner before he went on an alleged cop killing spree around the ..." data-sli="srsl_3" data-ci="srslc_3" data-vli="srslcl_3" id="srsl_3" data-slg="webres" jsaction="srl.s" role="button" tabindex="0" style="cursor: pointer; margin-left: 5px; text-decoration: inherit; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">Share12 mins ago -The venomous and rage-filled "manifesto" written by former cop  Christopher Dorner before he went on an alleged cop killing spree

Did his manifesto seem venomous and rage-filled to you?
 
2013-02-07 07:32:27 PM
The only time I remember such a large sway of the country completely terrified of one person was when the D.C. shiat was happening..  This guy isn't going after innocents entirely but it's clear he really has no concern for the well being of anyone as long as he takes his targets out.
 
2013-02-07 07:32:29 PM
Methinks this crazy mofo has seen Rambo a few too many times.
 
2013-02-07 07:32:47 PM

Amos Quito: flamingboard: Input error: Unable to determine who to root for.


Just root AGAINST all current and former LAPD cops and you'll be fine.


Indeed. fark the police and carry on.
 
2013-02-07 07:33:01 PM

Zoth: Molavian: Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.

Right?  The guy is clearly a gun-grabber.

Well, I'll admit that Dorners sort of lost points for that.

But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD,  he's got my full moral support.



So you're glad he killed 3 people - morally you support him killing more.
Wow.
Wow.
 
2013-02-07 07:33:04 PM

HMS_Blinkin: Watubi: Definitely some fodder for an investigative journalist, too bad there aren't any left

I wish he'd just found an eager young, idealistic journalist, and laid out these complaints for him/her.


For some reason I read that as "laid out these complaints via twitter"
 
2013-02-07 07:33:27 PM
This is the most rational, reasonable, and temperate essay written by an Obama supporter you'll find anywhere online.

That, and he's killed fewer Americans than Obama has killed with drones and he published HIS rationale without having to have the senate goad him into it.

He loves Obama, hates Christians, and digs gun control. I bet Chris Matthews is having leg tingles right about now.

Prediction: This guy is already being fast tracked for Atty. General in Obama's 3rd term.
 
2013-02-07 07:33:42 PM
This reminds me of any of the countless ramblings  I get from inmates. They are all innocent and they have all been set up. It wears thin and makes you suspicious of anyone who says it.
 
2013-02-07 07:33:44 PM

germ78: /oddly, Jeff Zucker was at NBC when that happened
//Zucker is now at CNN... hmm...


I just want to tell him good luck. We're all counting on him.
 
2013-02-07 07:34:02 PM

Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.


Yeah it was awesome when he killed those 2 innocent non-cops.
 
2013-02-07 07:35:00 PM
www.zodiackiller.com
 
2013-02-07 07:35:12 PM

Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.




FTFY
 
2013-02-07 07:35:30 PM
If he was going after the specific officers who wronged him, I could support him. If he was going after just police in general, I could understand. But killing innocent family members is farked up. fark this guy and his "good name".
 
2013-02-07 07:35:34 PM
But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD,  he's got my full moral support.


So you're glad he killed 3 people - morally you support him killing more.
Wow.
Wow.


Meh, Cops kill people all the time. I bet you don't whine much about that.

When he's shot as many innocent people as the LAPD, then I'll reappraise my position on the matter.
 
2013-02-07 07:35:50 PM

fredklein: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.  If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

Yeah. He should have just reported it to his superiors.


"Signed, Rollo Tommasi"
 
2013-02-07 07:36:11 PM

noheadphones: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

Yeah it was awesome when he killed those 2 innocent non-cops.


allegedly
 
2013-02-07 07:36:23 PM

jigger: Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?

He could have written a tell-all book, gone to the media, made numerous youtube videos, started a blog and a podcast, and gotten the word out. It might have started changes, maybe. This won't.


Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.
 
2013-02-07 07:37:16 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: Corn_Fed:  Go Dorner!

Did his manifesto seem venomous and rage-filled to you?



Yeah, I read it and had a very different reaction.  The guy seems to be level-headed, if obviously very pissed at this point.

The fact that, after five years of trying to whistle-blow within the system, and going through the proper channels, and NONE of us had ever heard of this last week, tells me that it was useless to try to try that avenue anymore.

His life and reputation was ruined, and was out of other options. I wish he hadn't targeted the daughter of his opponent--he lost his moral credibility on that. But if he'd stayed true strictly to those who were corrupting the system, he'd be deserving of a statue.
 
2013-02-07 07:37:17 PM

Zoth: Molavian: Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.

Right?  The guy is clearly a gun-grabber.

Well, I'll admit that Dorners sort of lost points for that.

But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD, he's got my full moral support.

They've Farked with a lot of people and finally they Farked with the wrong one.

A well deserved comeuppance.

The police have already shot 2 innocent people (and tried to shoot a 3rd but were apparently too incompetent actually hit the person).

I think they're doing a pretty good job of justifying this guy's grudge against them.


Normally I'm not that person who roots for cop killers (and I'm still not.  This guy is off the deep end) but I can't help but feel that maybe the LAPD needs some sort of wake up call.
 
2013-02-07 07:37:43 PM

BarkingUnicorn: "(LAPD Chief) Beck attributed a pair of shootings by police officers in Torrance, south of Los Angeles, to mistaken identity. In one of the instances, officers fired on two women who were in a blue pickup delivering newspapers, the Los Angeles Times reported."

Sigh.


i.imgur.com

Nope, totally not trying to kill the guy who knows about all the corruption, abuse, and racism.
 
2013-02-07 07:38:20 PM

noheadphones: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

Yeah it was awesome when he killed those 2 innocent non-cops.


You liked that part too?

I bet the cop father of the woman he killed has some regrets right about now, wouldn't you say?
 
2013-02-07 07:38:42 PM

Amos Quito: jigger: Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?

He could have written a tell-all book, gone to the media, made numerous youtube videos, started a blog and a podcast, and gotten the word out. It might have started changes, maybe. This won't.

Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.


Maybe. But the book had to come first. Or at least the podcasts. But now his message is going out in an entirely different context and it won't garner him much sympathy from the majority of regular dumbass Americans.
 
2013-02-07 07:38:49 PM

HMS_Blinkin: Watubi: Definitely some fodder for an investigative journalist, too bad there aren't any left

I wish he'd just found an eager young, idealistic journalist, and laid out these complaints for him/her.  Then he might actually have affected some kind of change in the LAPD.  Instead, people are dying needlessly AND his narrative is no longer particularly credible, since almost no one is going to look at this guy as a martyr.  He might have accomplished something as an actual whistle-blower though.


As documented in his manifesto, he sort of tried those things. And it got him nowhere.

As weird of a way it is, it is probably the most effective way to get people fired up about what he's talking about. I mean, just look at the reaction on Facebook (and Fark). Lots of people are finding his manifesto to be very convincing. Looks like he succeeded in some measure...
 
2013-02-07 07:39:24 PM

Zoth: noheadphones: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

Yeah it was awesome when he killed those 2 innocent non-cops.

You liked that part too?

I bet the cop father of the woman he killed has some regrets right about now, wouldn't you say?


Damn, dude.
 
2013-02-07 07:39:32 PM
Jesus
 
2013-02-07 07:39:44 PM
Breaking News: The National Safety Service has issued a maximum security alert. A maximum security alert was just issued for most of North America, including Alaska, due to an unusual "perfect storm" of trolling factors. It's possible trolling could reach epic levels without warning, any time today. People on the internet are advised to seek shelter immediately, and if confronted, to avoid direct eye contact.
 
2013-02-07 07:40:10 PM

fredklein: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.  If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

Yeah. He should have just reported it to his superiors.


Not what I meant, nor am I going to suggest a method.  This is just obviously wrong.
 
2013-02-07 07:40:27 PM

germ78: ontariolightning: CNN at 8 pm will show the dvd he sent Anderson Cooper
Ratings galore.

I hope they've at least previewed it. This worked out so well for NBC when Korean guy shot up Virginia Tech.

/oddly, Jeff Zucker was at NBC when that happened
//Zucker is now at CNN... hmm...


They've opened the box.  Link here -

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t1#/video/us/2013/02/07/tsr-ex-cop- al leged-cop-killer-reached-out-to-cnn.cnn
 
2013-02-07 07:40:33 PM
Amos Quito:
Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.


Yes.  CNN would have ignored a treatise on systematic corruption in the LAPD including names, dates, and times of felonies.  They would have never investigated such a package at all.

This disconnect required to believe this is staggering.
 
2013-02-07 07:40:34 PM
My, brother, knows Karl Marx,
He met him eating mushrooms in the peoples park,
He said 'What do you think about my manifesto?'
'I like a manifesto, put it to the test-o.'

/obscure?
 
2013-02-07 07:40:52 PM
that's a lot of reading but worth it. I love this man. if America was the great country the propaganda pushers pretend it is this affair would lead to our President having the entire PD in question under deep investigation. this would be the start of a new and better day.

when all is said and done it's going to be what Stevie Wonder sang all over again.

We are amazed but not amused
By all the things you say that you'll do
Though much concerned but not involved
With decisions that are made by you
But we are sick and tired of hearing your song
Telling how you are gonna change right from wrong
'Cause if you really want to hear our views
"You haven't done nothing"!


-- you know the rest. you've heard it for far too long.
 
2013-02-07 07:41:16 PM

bogey: Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY


But to them, every cop is a bad cop.
FTFY.
 
2013-02-07 07:41:18 PM
Serpico Snapped.
 
2013-02-07 07:42:08 PM

Zoth: But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD,  he's got my full moral support.


So you're glad he killed 3 people - morally you support him killing more.
Wow.
Wow.

Meh, Cops kill people all the time. I bet you don't whine much about that.

When he's shot as many innocent people as the LAPD, then I'll reappraise my position on the matter.



They're pretty close, read up on how they shot up the newspaper delivery folks this morning.
 
2013-02-07 07:42:09 PM

Etchy333: Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you're a vile and inhumane piece of shiat.

Well, at least he's competent to stand trial.  High IQ, even.


And yet Mr. Manifesto is more vile and inhumane than Wayne LaPierre.
 
2013-02-07 07:42:24 PM

Amos Quito: Anderson Cooper Package



i50.tinypic.com

"There's gotta be a better way to say that."
 
2013-02-07 07:42:24 PM
How is the MSM handling this on tv (I cut the cable this summer)

Online they seem to be being pretty fair, linking to the manifesto and not taking anything out of context.. Are they being the same on TV?
 
2013-02-07 07:42:41 PM

Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?


a complaint and a lawsuit....


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
 
2013-02-07 07:42:44 PM

LookForTheArrow: Breaking News: The National Safety Service has issued a maximum security alert. A maximum security alert was just issued for most of North America, including Alaska, due to an unusual "perfect storm" of trolling factors. It's possible trolling could reach epic levels without warning, any time today. People on the internet are advised to seek shelter immediately, and if confronted, to avoid direct eye contact.


This just in. Stay off the information highway until the trolls plows are done.
 
2013-02-07 07:42:53 PM

Zoth: But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD,  he's got my full moral support.


So you're glad he killed 3 people - morally you support him killing more.
Wow.
Wow.

Meh, Cops kill people all the time. I bet you don't whine much about that.

When he's shot as many innocent people as the LAPD, then I'll reappraise my position on the matter.


Another troll?
If so, 10/10 you are talented.
 
2013-02-07 07:43:36 PM

InitialCommentGuy: Amos Quito:
Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.

Yes.  CNN would have ignored a treatise on systematic corruption in the LAPD including names, dates, and times of felonies.  They would have never investigated such a package at all.

This disconnect required to believe this is staggering.


I don't know. I can see them ignoring it. They ignore all sorts of shiat, even stuff like that.
 
2013-02-07 07:43:59 PM
Jennifer Beals, Serena Williams, Grae Drake, Lisa Nicole-Carson, Diana Taurasi, N'bushe Wright, Brenda Villa, Kate Winslet, Ashley Graham, Erika Christensen, Gabrielle Union, Isabella Soprano, Zain Verjee, Tamron Hall, Gina Carano, America Ferrara, Giana Michaels, Nene, Natalie Portman, Queen Latifah, Michelle Rodriguez, Anjelah Johnson, Kelly Clarkson, Nora Jones, Laura Prepon, Margaret Cho, and Rutina Wesley, you are THE MOST beautiful women on this planet, period. Never settle, professionally or personally.

rofl this guys giving shout outs to porn stars
 
2013-02-07 07:44:14 PM

LessO2: , read up on how they shot up the newspaper delivery folks this morning.


Extra! Extra! Read all about it!
*ducks*
*gets shot a lot*
 
2013-02-07 07:44:18 PM

Amos Quito: jigger: Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?

He could have written a tell-all book, gone to the media, made numerous youtube videos, started a blog and a podcast, and gotten the word out. It might have started changes, maybe. This won't.

Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.


TFA that you linked says they handed the parcel over to LAPD.
 
2013-02-07 07:44:37 PM

KrispyKritter: if America was the great country the propaganda pushers pretend it is this affair would lead to our President having the entire PD in question under deep investigation. this would be the start of a new and better day.


We should encourage prospective serial killers to go through with their actions if it helps to provide them a platform for their political views.

cdn2-b.examiner.com
>Hot as Helter Skelter
 
2013-02-07 07:45:58 PM

LookForTheArrow: Breaking News: The National Safety Service has issued a maximum security alert. A maximum security alert was just issued for most of North America, including Alaska, due to an unusual "perfect storm" of trolling factors. It's possible trolling could reach epic levels without warning, any time today. People on the internet are advised to seek shelter immediately, and if confronted, to avoid direct eye contact.


Do. Not. Know. Whether. To. Click. "Funny". Or. "Smart".

Brain hurts now.
 
2013-02-07 07:46:01 PM

InitialCommentGuy: cdn2-b.examiner.com
>Hot as Helter Skelter


Looks like a teeny tiny Lt. Aldo Raine got him
 
2013-02-07 07:46:04 PM
Everything else bieng equal, would this guy be such a FARK-Hero if he were white?
 
2013-02-07 07:46:31 PM

self_made_hell: BarkingUnicorn: "(LAPD Chief) Beck attributed a pair of shootings by police officers in Torrance, south of Los Angeles, to mistaken identity. In one of the instances, officers fired on two women who were in a blue pickup delivering newspapers, the Los Angeles Times reported."

Sigh.

[i.imgur.com image 400x225]

Nope, totally not trying to kill the guy who knows about all the corruption, abuse, and racism.


Seems legit.

The car had it coming... or "going" as it were.
 
2013-02-07 07:46:44 PM

Br34ch: Begoggle, maybe just go to sleep? You are going to be really agitated otherwise.

Therefore, drink milk, pee, proceed to sleep. I will say hi to you when you wake up tomorrow. Promise.


Just put him on ignore, I have him tagged as "cop fellating troll" now.  Easier than trying to engage him in his masturbation session.

jigger: Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?

He could have written a tell-all book, gone to the media, made numerous youtube videos, started a blog and a podcast, and gotten the word out. It might have started changes, maybe. This won't.


That would have just gotten him ignored or at best, killed.  Or do you think no other cop in L.A's history has ever tried to fight the corruption?  This guy's not even the 10th.  You can find their stories, but you have to dig a bit.   He's a crazed ant fighting an elephant thats destroyed his life trying to get the world to notice and hurt the elephant.  He will get noticed, not in a good way, he wont ever do shiat to the lapd, nothing ever will.  Nothing he or anyone else could ever ever do would ever fix the police in L.A.

You would have to destroy all of L.A with all the cops there in order to "fix" that problem.  You cant fix it, you have to burn it down to bare earth and replant new seeds.  And then pray that the earth isnt so corrupt that it infects the new growth.

Enjoy the show.  Nothing ever gets better and none of us makes it out of here alive.  Let that knowledge comfort you.
 
2013-02-07 07:47:03 PM

you are a puppet: rofl this guys giving shout outs to porn stars

It's kind of sad I won't be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. What an awesome trilogy. Todd Phillips, don't make anymore Hangovers after the third, takes away the originality of its foundation.


And advice to Hollywood
 
2013-02-07 07:47:36 PM

TomD9938: Everything else bieng equal, would this guy be such a FARK-Hero if he were white?


Would you have typed that if you weren't white?
 
2013-02-07 07:47:41 PM
Dorner would fit right in at Fark.

In love with Piers Morgan, Chris Matthews and Anderson Cooper? Check!

Watches CNN and MSNBC like a religious zealot receiving divine instruction? Check!

Insane hatred for George Zimmerman and Wayne LaPierre? Check!

Control-freak regarding guns? Check!

Seething cauldron of barely-contained rage? Check!

Career failure? Check!

Relationship failure? Check!

Dorner the Establishment Liberal Rampage Killer.

He almost certainly has a Total Fark subscription and a couple of alts.
 
2013-02-07 07:49:07 PM
From his rant, he seems like such a nice guy FOR A CRAZY PERSON.
 
2013-02-07 07:49:17 PM

Br34ch: Begoggle, maybe just go to sleep? You are going to be really agitated otherwise.


Are you bothered by the fact that not all of Fark subscribes to the cop-hate?
Good.
 
2013-02-07 07:49:18 PM
Dorner's call for a reset might come in handy. Or "ignore" as we call it here
 
2013-02-07 07:49:23 PM

you are a puppet: TomD9938: Everything else bieng equal, would this guy be such a FARK-Hero if he were white?

Would you have typed that if you weren't white?


Is that a "No"?
 
2013-02-07 07:50:03 PM

Langston: Some of it sounds totally rational and sane, but other parts of it sound sort of nutty.

One thing's for sure, though. This guy sounds dangerous as f*ck.


Gets nuttier once he decides he needs to wrap up every loose thought in his head before he doesn't have one anymore. The celebrity shout-outs make him seem crazier than he probably was not too long ago.

FTFA: "Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama. "

accelerus: this is just some big black guy who thinks the world is out to get him.


Uppity negro. Got it.

I mean, it must be because he's black right? Because no white guy has ever gone on a crazy killing spree when he felt his world had been turned upside down.
 
2013-02-07 07:50:21 PM
I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.
 
2013-02-07 07:50:22 PM
Bontesla:

Seems legit.

The car had it coming... or "going" as it were.


The vehicle was in the area of a protection detail dealing with a target who suggested using guerrilla tactics.  They were driving in the dark, passed up several homes in view of the detail, then pitched a parcel at the home of the protected.  They refused to ID, were running without lights, and proceeded to speed up as plainclothes came towards the car with guns and badges.

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.
 
2013-02-07 07:51:10 PM

KrispyKritter: hat's a lot of reading but worth it. I love this man. if America was the great country the propaganda pushers pretend it is this affair would lead to our President having the entire PD in question under deep investigation. this would be the start of a new and better day.


I don't know if the LAPD is as bad today as it was during the Darryl Gates years, but to "forcing" them to reform would take a lot of willpower and effort on the part of the  State of California and the Feds...

/ the USMC could get the job done quickly...
// throw in a few SEAL teams as well..
 
2013-02-07 07:51:19 PM

TomD9938: you are a puppet: TomD9938: Everything else bieng equal, would this guy be such a FARK-Hero if he were white?

Would you have typed that if you weren't white?

Is that a "No"?


Is that a no?
 
2013-02-07 07:51:28 PM

InitialCommentGuy: Amos Quito:
Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.

Yes.  CNN would have ignored a treatise on systematic corruption in the LAPD including names, dates, and times of felonies.  They would have never investigated such a package at all.

This disconnect required to believe this is staggering.



LOL!

You think outfits like CNN don't get boatloads of bullshiat from "nutbars" every farking day?

What makes you think they'd pay some disgruntled fired cop any mind?
 
2013-02-07 07:52:33 PM

bogey: Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY


Really, who is pro- bad cop except cops?
 
2013-02-07 07:52:38 PM
This guy has a short fuse... maybe that's why he became a cop?

Thinking you should shoot someone for calling you names? Seriously? Punching a kid out who called you names in elementary school? Did I miss the part where he followed proper channels to tell a teacher about it? No? Oh, I'm sorry, your moral compass must be off. By all means, beating up kids at the first sign of being dicks is a totally morally correct response.

 I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the LAPD complaints are true. And I understand the anger and frustration behind it. But threatening to kill people's kids over it is stupid. They're kids, they're not responsible for any of this. But that's okay cuz his moral compass is pointed true north. (Or some-such dumbassery.)

 And I stopped reading at the political rant. This guy can't even stay on topic in his "manifesto", so guess it's pretty safe to call him "nuts" and move on.

/whatever complaints he has about the LAPD is lost under the douchebaggery he filled his manifesto with.
 
2013-02-07 07:53:48 PM
Aside from the whole killing innocent people thing, I was fascinated by his manifesto. It didn't seem crazy or wackadoodle. He made some very valid arguments regarding his perception of his situation. He probably should have found a more constructive way to vent is frustration though. Also I liked his list of people he gave shout-outs to.
 
2013-02-07 07:53:54 PM
I can empathize with him to a degree.
It was hard for me as a teenager to adjust to the lack of justice and "karma" in reality.
This man was likely a great person, pushed over the edge by a world he wasn't willing to accept.

Although, he lost me towards the end though with the shoutouts. Perhaps that's the "crazy" part of him.
 
2013-02-07 07:54:08 PM
Amos Quito:

LOL!

You think outfits like CNN don't get boatloads of bullshiat from "nutbars" every farking day?

What makes you think they'd pay some disgruntled fired cop any mind?


Logic.  If he didn't fill the package with the nonsensical manifesto and put in 'just the facts'?  He would have been easily vetted within 30 minutes and two phone calls.  Random Nut doesn't have so much information, and isn't a former LAPD beat walker.

Again, disconnect.
 
2013-02-07 07:54:13 PM

SarcasticFark: Methinks this crazy mofo has seen Rambo a few too many times.


I wonder if he's seen Falling Down?
 
2013-02-07 07:54:46 PM

TomD9938: Everything else bieng equal, would this guy be such a FARK-Hero if he were white?


What?!

He isn't white?!

*swoons* *wets pants* *grabs guns*
 
2013-02-07 07:54:46 PM

Zoth: noheadphones: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

Yeah it was awesome when he killed those 2 innocent non-cops.

You liked that part too?

I bet the cop father of the woman he killed has some regrets right about now, wouldn't you say?


Probably not, since he likely condones murder in the name of vengeance, being a cop and all.  That's your logic anyway.
 
2013-02-07 07:55:20 PM
Strange part is since he's gave a shout-out to John & Ken from KFI-AM in there they've actually been somewhat sympathetic, delving into his original complaints against the LAPD & how that termination on the abuse report boned his Security Clearance with the Navy & snowballed...
 
2013-02-07 07:56:02 PM
well, that was a full bucket of crazy.

if you find yourself
a) in the manifesto portion of your life, and
b) that manifesto involves Tebow, Chris Rock, and Kelly Clarkson

you've really, really, really mismanaged your crazy-freakout time. you only get one of these, for chrissakes.


Larry David, I agree. 72-82 degrees is way to hot in a residence. 68 , degrees is perfect.

what in the actual factual fark.

i get the reference, i'm just baffled that it's showing up in somebody's 'Ok, i'ma killa buncha people now' missive.

i can understand the Take-5 thing, tho.
 
2013-02-07 07:56:37 PM

accelerus: i read bits and pieces --


this is just some big black guy who thinks the world is out to get him. He got pissed his whinging and biatching didn't get taken seriously and is using it as an excuse to murder innocent people.

He thinks the world owes him something for being black.



He's your reason for a ban. All wrapped up, nice and neat.

"If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. "
 
2013-02-07 07:57:36 PM
Another troll?
If so, 10/10 you are talented.


Not trolling at all.

I just don't care for thugs (with or without badges) and think it's funny as all hell to see them getting served what they are so used to dishing out.
 
2013-02-07 07:58:09 PM

100 Watt Walrus: Gets nuttier once he decides he needs to wrap up every loose thought in his head before he doesn't have one anymore. The celebrity shout-outs make him seem crazier than he probably was not too long ago.


I was half expecting him to ask for naked photos of Bea Arthur.
 
2013-02-07 07:58:15 PM

wambu: bogey: Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

Really, who is pro- bad cop except cops?


Snivelling toadies, bootlickers, and those that get their jollies from unbridled authority.
 
2013-02-07 07:58:16 PM
too bad. i would have enjoyed a beer or four with the guy, I think

sad he snapped when he felt like he had nowhere else to go but crazytown
 
2013-02-07 07:58:35 PM
I was really hoping for some 'usual suspects new york city's finest taxi service' type of whistle blowing. I hope he has more to say, if he makes to any kind of holding cell.
 
2013-02-07 07:58:52 PM
Wow.

This guy Dorners might be a bit off the deep end, but WTF is the LAPD doing ramming and shooting up vehicles on the merest hint Dorners might be in the vehicle?!?!? This is like one of those bad 80s movies where the ex-cop is fighting a corrupt police department, which is throwing every effort.... geez.

LA has always been "La-La" land, but I think it's safe to say there are some very nasty things going on right now.

There are no good guys here. Dorners has taken the law into his own hands and doesn't care about the collateral damage, and the LAPD thinks it is open season to kill a rogue cop who "crossed the blue line".

There certainly is substance in Dorners' charges, and the way the LAPD is handling this, it's clear that part of his "manifesto" is completely accurate (still doesn't justify his crimes, though). Honestly, the State of California needs to step in with the State Police and National Guardsmen and shut them down right now before more innocents die. The Governor can use the excuse that he is simply putting the LAPD, all potential targets, into protective custody. House them on Alcatraz, and don't let them off until Dorners is in custody (or dead) and after his charges have been investigated.

I've stated this before here on Fark - Cops, prosecutors, judges who pervert the law to send KNOWN innocent people to jail should suffer the penalties they inflicted - if for no other reason than that they allowed the actual criminal to walk free. Corruption cannot be tolerated. Police officers ramming and firing on vehicles without concern? That shows a level of corruption that cannot be allowed to continue.
 
2013-02-07 07:59:30 PM

Begoggle: Zoth: Molavian: Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.

Right?  The guy is clearly a gun-grabber.

Well, I'll admit that Dorners sort of lost points for that.

But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD,  he's got my full moral support.


So you're glad he killed 3 people - morally you support him killing more.
Wow.
Wow.


You morally support the troops - morally you support them killing people.
 
2013-02-07 07:59:42 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor?


Those 2 items are illegal in California, so you see the ban worked.
 
2013-02-07 07:59:47 PM

Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

But to them, every cop is a bad cop.
FTFY.


You really believe Drew is some kind of rabid cop hater? You've been here nearly as long as I have and I can't think of one single thing the man has ever said to even remotely support that assertion. If you have quotes I'd love to see them.
 
2013-02-07 08:00:34 PM
Who needs a semi-auto rifle with 30 bullets? Anyone on this guys shiat list.
 
2013-02-07 08:01:06 PM

Begoggle: Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti-cop for years now.


It's the top story on every news site right now.

I seem to remember a lot of recent greenlit stories about Twinkies.
Is Fark anti-Twinkie? I doubt it.
 
2013-02-07 08:01:10 PM
A police man performs ONE act of bravery in his life, and that's when they take the Oath. Any innocents they shoot afterwards are just in the Line of Duty.

/how it's done
 
2013-02-07 08:01:16 PM

you are a puppet: TomD9938: you are a puppet: TomD9938: Everything else bieng equal, would this guy be such a FARK-Hero if he were white?

Would you have typed that if you weren't white?

Is that a "No"?

Is that a no?


I dont think he'd be as elevated where he white former cop that had been shiat canned for smearing the name of a female officer.

It's pulling for the underdog.

And to answer yourfirst question, yes.
 
2013-02-07 08:01:36 PM

bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

But to them, every cop is a bad cop.
FTFY.

You really believe Drew is some kind of rabid cop hater? You've been here nearly as long as I have and I can't think of one single thing the man has ever said to even remotely support that assertion. If you have quotes I'd love to see them.


Drew: Officer Duke Sucks
 
2013-02-07 08:01:52 PM

InitialCommentGuy: Bontesla:

Seems legit.

The car had it coming... or "going" as it were.

The vehicle was in the area of a protection detail dealing with a target who suggested using guerrilla tactics.  They were driving in the dark, passed up several homes in view of the detail, then pitched a parcel at the home of the protected.  They refused to ID, were running without lights, and proceeded to speed up as plainclothes came towards the car with guns and badges.

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.


Solution? Shoot the car! Attack the car!

Yes. That's the solution.
 
2013-02-07 08:03:31 PM
Probably not, since he likely condones murder in the name of vengeance, being a cop and all.  That's your logic anyway.

I suspect he feels differently about it when it's his loved ones getting targeted. (Unless the cop is the one doing the targeting of his own loved ones. They've got quite the problem with domestic violence, it seems.)

They always do.

Cops are awesome at justifying their own crimes while they nitpick at others.
 
2013-02-07 08:04:30 PM
This was really interesting to read but then...


"It's kind of sad I won't be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. "

what the hell?
 
2013-02-07 08:04:37 PM
Judging by the amount of trolls in here trying to ascribe his beliefs to all liberals, this guy must be on to something.
 
2013-02-07 08:04:49 PM

you are a puppet: Jennifer Beals, Serena Williams, Grae Drake, Lisa Nicole-Carson, Diana Taurasi, N'bushe Wright, Brenda Villa, Kate Winslet, Ashley Graham, Erika Christensen, Gabrielle Union, Isabella Soprano, Zain Verjee, Tamron Hall, Gina Carano, America Ferrara, Giana Michaels, Nene, Natalie Portman, Queen Latifah, Michelle Rodriguez, Anjelah Johnson, Kelly Clarkson, Nora Jones, Laura Prepon, Margaret Cho, and Rutina Wesley, you are THE MOST beautiful women on this planet, period. Never settle, professionally or personally.

rofl this guys giving shout outs to porn stars


Ha!

Mmmmm....Giana Michaels.
 
2013-02-07 08:06:50 PM
Trying to hold back right now 'cause I'm in LA.

/not the city
// a hooker
 
2013-02-07 08:07:12 PM

The_Sponge: you are a puppet: Jennifer Beals, Serena Williams, Grae Drake, Lisa Nicole-Carson, Diana Taurasi, N'bushe Wright, Brenda Villa, Kate Winslet, Ashley Graham, Erika Christensen, Gabrielle Union, Isabella Soprano, Zain Verjee, Tamron Hall, Gina Carano, America Ferrara, Giana Michaels, Nene, Natalie Portman, Queen Latifah, Michelle Rodriguez, Anjelah Johnson, Kelly Clarkson, Nora Jones, Laura Prepon, Margaret Cho, and Rutina Wesley, you are THE MOST beautiful women on this planet, period. Never settle, professionally or personally.

rofl this guys giving shout outs to porn stars

Ha!

Mmmmm....Giana Michaels.


Can't fault him for liking Giana!
 
2013-02-07 08:07:13 PM
I'd like to see other agencies get involved because I think it'd be best if he's taken alive, which the LAPD won't do. While his crimes are pretty bad regardless of the LAPD's behavior (murdering someone's family is indefensible), it would be nice to see someone actually investigate the LAPD as well. He might have all kinds of additional evidence, and I think he'd be willing to divulge it without being offered any kind of deal.

Best ending here would involve a trial for him but also a trial for those members of the LAPD he mentions, if there's any substance to the accusations at all.
 
2013-02-07 08:07:22 PM
I'm about halfway through his "manifesto." Assuming most of it is mostly accurate the guy is too respectable to be an L.A. cop.
 
2013-02-07 08:07:37 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: Did his manifesto seem venomous and rage-filled to you?


Yeah somewhat.
 
2013-02-07 08:07:58 PM
CNN not saying the cops who shot up those 4 innocent people killed anybody.  Only mentions 2 of them.


Nothing to see here.  Move along.
 
2013-02-07 08:08:50 PM

Begoggle: Zoth: Molavian: Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.

Right?  The guy is clearly a gun-grabber.

Well, I'll admit that Dorners sort of lost points for that.

But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD,  he's got my full moral support.


So you're glad he killed 3 people - morally you support him killing more.
Wow.
Wow.


farm1.staticflickr.com
 
2013-02-07 08:09:11 PM

Zoth: Probably not, since he likely condones murder in the name of vengeance, being a cop and all.  That's your logic anyway.

I suspect he feels differently about it when it's his loved ones getting targeted. (Unless the cop is the one doing the targeting of his own loved ones. They've got quite the problem with domestic violence, it seems.)

They always do.

Cops are awesome at justifying their own crimes while they nitpick at others.


You are justifying vengeance and acting above the law and yet decry it at the same time.   Not a bad troll though.  8/10
 
2013-02-07 08:09:18 PM

Bontesla: Solution? Shoot the car! Attack the car!

Yes. That's the solution.


You are currently being hunted by someone who knows squad tactics, urban warfare, guerrilla and gangland attack methods.  A vehicle without lights rounds the corner, kills the lights, matches the description at a distance of your stalker, slow rolls your house...

That's Drive By 101, followed by short stop, fire, and get out ASAP.  The target stops, pitches out an unidentified package, then refuses to stop when approached by officers and attempts to flee.

That's completely normal behavior.  Yep, nothing suspicious there, and hell we should just continue our approach with guns in holsters with absolutely no offensive threat.

They refused identification and attempted to leave.  Was it the best response? No.  Was it a viable response? Yeah, sorry, it was.
 
2013-02-07 08:09:19 PM

Mitrovarr: I'd like to see other agencies get involved because I think it'd be best if he's taken alive, which the LAPD won't do. While his crimes are pretty bad regardless of the LAPD's behavior (murdering someone's family is indefensible), it would be nice to see someone actually investigate the LAPD as well. He might have all kinds of additional evidence, and I think he'd be willing to divulge it without being offered any kind of deal.

Best ending here would involve a trial for him but also a trial for those members of the LAPD he mentions, if there's any substance to the accusations at all.


I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.
 
2013-02-07 08:10:00 PM

HMS_Blinkin: But his behavior is going to make the problem, assuming it exists, much harder to solve. No politician is going to want to talk about investigating the LAPD now that <b>the public's sympathy is on their side</b>.


That seems like a pretty big assumption.
 
2013-02-07 08:10:14 PM
I want this whole thing to be made into a film either by Terry Gilliam in the vein of Fear and Loathing or Tyler Perry.
 
2013-02-07 08:10:27 PM
"I thank the unnamed women I dated over my lifetime for the great and sometimes not so great sex. "

<insert damn, someone got served img here>
 
2013-02-07 08:11:19 PM

The One True TheDavid: I'm about halfway through his "manifesto." Assuming most of it is mostly accurate the guy is too respectable to be an L.A. cop.


The firs half is OK but the second half is pure crazy.

Don't get too specific about it or fark will pull your post like they just did mine. Lamers...
 
2013-02-07 08:11:21 PM

AndreMA: HMS_Blinkin: But his behavior is going to make the problem, assuming it exists, much harder to solve. No politician is going to want to talk about investigating the LAPD now that <b>the public's sympathy is on their side</b>.

That seems like a pretty big assumption.


Damned redesigned posting box...
 
2013-02-07 08:11:22 PM

Bontesla: Mitrovarr: I'd like to see other agencies get involved because I think it'd be best if he's taken alive, which the LAPD won't do. While his crimes are pretty bad regardless of the LAPD's behavior (murdering someone's family is indefensible), it would be nice to see someone actually investigate the LAPD as well. He might have all kinds of additional evidence, and I think he'd be willing to divulge it without being offered any kind of deal.

Best ending here would involve a trial for him but also a trial for those members of the LAPD he mentions, if there's any substance to the accusations at all.

I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.


don't worry, the LAPD will "find" some to justify his assassination.
 
2013-02-07 08:11:39 PM

InitialCommentGuy: Bontesla: Solution? Shoot the car! Attack the car!

Yes. That's the solution.

You are currently being hunted by someone who knows squad tactics, urban warfare, guerrilla and gangland attack methods.  A vehicle without lights rounds the corner, kills the lights, matches the description at a distance of your stalker, slow rolls your house...

That's Drive By 101, followed by short stop, fire, and get out ASAP.  The target stops, pitches out an unidentified package, then refuses to stop when approached by officers and attempts to flee.

That's completely normal behavior.  Yep, nothing suspicious there, and hell we should just continue our approach with guns in holsters with absolutely no offensive threat.

They refused identification and attempted to leave.  Was it the best response? No.  Was it a viable response? Yeah, sorry, it was.


It's a viable response to pump any vehicle full of rounds because . . . the guy they're hunting is dangerous?

*lol*

No.
 
2013-02-07 08:11:40 PM
I bet CNN views every tape sent to them by Joe Everyman.
 
2013-02-07 08:11:45 PM
This guy has mental issues and I hope he's held responsible for his recent actions.

With that said, I hope the LAPD burns and burns brightly.
 
2013-02-07 08:11:51 PM

wildcardjack: I want this whole thing to be made into a film either by Terry Gilliam in the vein of Fear and Loathing or Tyler Perry.


I hope it has Russell Crowe and Guy Pearce, and that farmer from Babe.
 
2013-02-07 08:11:56 PM
Who drew first blood?

Lots of interesting points in the beginning, but it turned into one of those Academy Award speeches where the music is playing and the recipient is still thanking people towards the end.
 
2013-02-07 08:12:02 PM

InitialCommentGuy: Bontesla: Solution? Shoot the car! Attack the car!

Yes. That's the solution.

You are currently being hunted by someone who knows squad tactics, urban warfare, guerrilla and gangland attack methods.  A vehicle without lights rounds the corner, kills the lights, matches the description at a distance of your stalker, slow rolls your house...

That's Drive By 101, followed by short stop, fire, and get out ASAP.  The target stops, pitches out an unidentified package, then refuses to stop when approached by officers and attempts to flee.

That's completely normal behavior.  Yep, nothing suspicious there, and hell we should just continue our approach with guns in holsters with absolutely no offensive threat.

They refused identification and attempted to leave.  Was it the best response? No.  Was it a viable response? Yeah, sorry, it was.


Hoooleeeeshiatballs. You are farking nuts.  I hope you are just trolling.
 
2013-02-07 08:12:08 PM
Of course his 'manifesto' is going to ramble a bit - what would you write if you needed to cover EVERYTHING because you knew you were going to die? He is going to be shot by the LAPD, of course.

And for the record, the Oakland PD is about to be completely taken over by the Feds for being SO corrupt. While I don't condone murder, and he is obviously having mental problems (that he admits), he should not have killed anyone. Of course, tell that to a cop.
 
2013-02-07 08:12:08 PM
Let's face it, most cops are low-class brutes who join to fulfill paramilitary fantasies.

There is no denying that there is a cop-culture that is protective of its own, at the expense of the truth or to society.

Most cops may be "good cops," but the bad cops number more than "just a few bad apples." I'd bet that 1/3rd of LAPD are bad cops.
 
2013-02-07 08:12:18 PM

Agarista: I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.


Dorne's gonna die in a hail of bullets.  He's gonna die because he wants to die, and the cops are happy to oblige him.

The cops didn't shoot at a "random" vehicle.  They shot at a vehicle that matched a description of the suspect's, approaching them slowly with headlights off at 5:00 a.m., after something was thrown out of its window.  They aren't "willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties."  They're scared shiatless and trigger-happy.  I would be the same in their position.
 
2013-02-07 08:12:52 PM

Snotnose: NewportBarGuy: I'm not reading all that sh*t.

It's actually somewhat interesting.  When I clicked I thought I'd just skim it to judge the kook level, but I ended up reading prolly 2/3 of it.

/ guy reminds me of Stevie King
// needs a farking editor


It would have been 100 times better if he'd had an editor. But who the hell would edit this without calling the cops on his ass? Incidentally, I got a green light!
 
2013-02-07 08:13:23 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: Bontesla: Mitrovarr: I'd like to see other agencies get involved because I think it'd be best if he's taken alive, which the LAPD won't do. While his crimes are pretty bad regardless of the LAPD's behavior (murdering someone's family is indefensible), it would be nice to see someone actually investigate the LAPD as well. He might have all kinds of additional evidence, and I think he'd be willing to divulge it without being offered any kind of deal.

Best ending here would involve a trial for him but also a trial for those members of the LAPD he mentions, if there's any substance to the accusations at all.

I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.

don't worry, the LAPD will "find" some to justify his assassination.


And the assassination of others because committed the crime of driving the same type of vehicle he's spotted in.
 
2013-02-07 08:13:31 PM

self_made_hell: BarkingUnicorn: "(LAPD Chief) Beck attributed a pair of shootings by police officers in Torrance, south of Los Angeles, to mistaken identity. In one of the instances, officers fired on two women who were in a blue pickup delivering newspapers, the Los Angeles Times reported."

Sigh.

[i.imgur.com image 400x225]

Nope, totally not trying to kill the guy who knows about all the corruption, abuse, and racism.


Holy crap.
 
2013-02-07 08:14:24 PM

Bontesla: HindiDiscoMonster: Bontesla: Mitrovarr: I'd like to see other agencies get involved because I think it'd be best if he's taken alive, which the LAPD won't do. While his crimes are pretty bad regardless of the LAPD's behavior (murdering someone's family is indefensible), it would be nice to see someone actually investigate the LAPD as well. He might have all kinds of additional evidence, and I think he'd be willing to divulge it without being offered any kind of deal.

Best ending here would involve a trial for him but also a trial for those members of the LAPD he mentions, if there's any substance to the accusations at all.

I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.

don't worry, the LAPD will "find" some to justify his assassination.

And the assassination of others because committed the crime of driving the same type of vehicle he's spotted in.


yup
 
2013-02-07 08:15:26 PM
wow, the former head of the LA police is on CNN right now and apparently this loon took a coin the chief gave him when he left for the military and shot it up and then sent it with a manifesto to CNN.
 
2013-02-07 08:15:26 PM

moviemarketing: This was really interesting to read but then...


"<i>It's kind of sad I won't be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III.</i> "

what the hell?


Hangover III  will probably be the last Hangover movie ever made.
 
2013-02-07 08:15:31 PM

Bontesla: I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.


What's the alternative? They're not dead? Someone else killed them at the very same moment this guy released his manifesto and went on the run? Someone else killed them and he took credit? Short of conspiracy theory territory, I just don't see any other reasonable possibility than him having done it. I mean, he says he's going after their families in the manifesto.
 
2013-02-07 08:15:35 PM

InitialCommentGuy: Amos Quito:

LOL!

You think outfits like CNN don't get boatloads of bullshiat from "nutbars" every farking day?

What makes you think they'd pay some disgruntled fired cop any mind?

Logic.  If he didn't fill the package with the nonsensical manifesto and put in 'just the facts'?  He would have been easily vetted within 30 minutes and two phone calls.  Random Nut doesn't have so much information, and isn't a former LAPD beat walker.

Again, disconnect.



Bullshiat.

1. LAPD corrupt? LOL! So what else is new?
2. Former FIRED cop whines about corruption and doesn't get a "fair hearing"?  Not news.

CNN calls LAPD: "Oh yeah, he was a nutcase - a liar, misogynist, a racist and a bully. We had to fire him."
CNN: Sorry to trouble you, but we were just following up. Thanks for your time, officer

Not news.
 
2013-02-07 08:15:37 PM

styckx: The only time I remember such a large sway of the country completely terrified of one person was when the D.C. shiat was happening..  This guy isn't going after innocents entirely but it's clear he really has no concern for the well being of anyone as long as he takes his targets out.


Has it been independently established that he caused collateral damage, or is it possible that the LAPD is blaming unrelated killings on him to garner more public support? It wouldn't be the first time the cops lied to the public.

I'd missed this story until now, being distracted by the impending blizzard here and other matters.
 
2013-02-07 08:15:45 PM
You are justifying vengeance and acting above the law and yet decry it at the same time.   Not a bad troll though.  8/10

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not justifying it.

I'm just applauding, it in this case.

By any moral measure (except for perhaps Jainism or Wah!Wah!ItsNotFairWhenSomeoneDoesItToUsism), the cops had this coming.
 
2013-02-07 08:15:53 PM

you are a puppet: What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana's skull.

Ha! We need the FARK gun club in here to critique his suggested weapon and post pictures of their own gun collections and personal recommendations.



147gr seems a bit excessive...expensive even, for a 9mm shot you plan on wasting on two people you feel as though don't mean jackshiat to you.


Just my .02...

/yes I'm a gun guy
//no I will no post pictures of my collection
///shooting is cathartic for me
 
2013-02-07 08:16:16 PM
I can't believe I read the whole thing...
 
2013-02-07 08:16:45 PM
I was totally on this guy's side until

"Charlie Sheen, you're effin awesome."

Now I am conflicted.

Seriously, though - while I do not wish death on anyone, He is specifically targeting epic a-holes in the LAPD, an organization with a fairly clear history of epic corruption - corruption that has resulted in innumerable deaths.

I may find it hard to hope for his capture. I sort-of hope he remains uncaptured for a few months, as long as he doesnt kill any non LAPD.
 
2013-02-07 08:16:50 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Agarista: I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.

Dorne's gonna die in a hail of bullets.  He's gonna die because he wants to die, and the cops are happy to oblige him.

The cops didn't shoot at a "random" vehicle.  They shot at a vehicle that matched a description of the suspect's, approaching them slowly with headlights off at 5:00 a.m., after something was thrown out of its window.  They aren't "willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties."  They're scared shiatless and trigger-happy.  I would be the same in their position.


The only thing that really matched was the type of vehicle (ie. truck).
And if we allow them to shoot at all vehicles that drive "suspiciously" while being a truck - we're going to end up with a lot more victims. We should have higher expectations for the people we hire to protect our society.
 
2013-02-07 08:17:40 PM
 
2013-02-07 08:17:50 PM

BarkingUnicorn: I would be the same in their position.


You should never be a cop.  Neither should any of these other cops.  You shouldnt have a CCL either, cuz your going to kill some innocent person when your feeling paranoid and feel justified about it.  But reality is you can carry a gun wherever you want, and your probably going to kill some black kid for asking for change or spilling a soda on your something stupid.

fark dude why you gotta kill people?  wtf is wrong with you?


/shiat dont kill me!
 
2013-02-07 08:18:32 PM

flamingboard: Begoggle: Zoth: Molavian: Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.

Right?  The guy is clearly a gun-grabber.

Well, I'll admit that Dorners sort of lost points for that.

But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD,  he's got my full moral support.


So you're glad he killed 3 people - morally you support him killing more.
Wow.
Wow.

You morally support the troops - morally you support them killing people.


I give them all the HERO tag on Fark.
 
2013-02-07 08:18:33 PM

Zoth: You are justifying vengeance and acting above the law and yet decry it at the same time.   Not a bad troll though.  8/10

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not justifying it.

I'm just applauding, it in this case.

By any moral measure (except for perhaps Jainism or Wah!Wah!ItsNotFairWhenSomeoneDoesItToUsism), the cops had this coming.


Wow his is much better than mine. My manifesto is like "you will not take the remote and change the channel when I take a leak. And no more 2 hour showers...
 
2013-02-07 08:18:35 PM

HMS_Blinkin: NewportBarGuy: I'm not reading all that sh*t.

If he took that much time to write all that, I'm just gonna say he's guilty.

So you really don't believe that there is any chance that the LAPD would be racist and unfair in any way?  The guy's a nutjob and obviously he's airing his grievances in the worst possible way (would it be THAT hard to find a journalist who wants to break these big allegations, assuming they're true?!), but I have to admit that his rant isn't that far fetched.  Frankly, some parts of it aren't even all that surprising.


FUN FACT: The LAPD can be corrupt as all hell and at the same time this guy could be guilty of killing innocent people.
 
2013-02-07 08:18:44 PM

Bontesla: It's a viable response to pump any vehicle full of rounds because . . . the guy they're hunting is dangerous?

*lol*

No.


If the target refuses to stop after being approached, declared, and directed to halt during a situation where the officers have identified as such and the target is now attempting to flee in an active shooter situation?

The tactics are acceptable per ASR guidelines.
 
2013-02-07 08:18:57 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-07 08:19:25 PM
I'm surprised that this type of thing doesn't happen more often.

It's not that I want it to. I don't. The sad thing is it will because we tacitly approve of this kind of behavior in the U.S.
 
2013-02-07 08:19:36 PM

bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

But to them, every cop is a bad cop.
FTFY.

You really believe Drew is some kind of rabid cop hater? You've been here nearly as long as I have and I can't think of one single thing the man has ever said to even remotely support that assertion. If you have quotes I'd love to see them.


I don't know if it's Drew or somebody else up there, but yeah it's pretty obvious with the number of anti-cop threads that get posted.
I don't know if he's really anti-cop, or they just generate a lot of hits.
 
2013-02-07 08:20:44 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: Bontesla: Mitrovarr: I'd like to see other agencies get involved because I think it'd be best if he's taken alive, which the LAPD won't do. While his crimes are pretty bad regardless of the LAPD's behavior (murdering someone's family is indefensible), it would be nice to see someone actually investigate the LAPD as well. He might have all kinds of additional evidence, and I think he'd be willing to divulge it without being offered any kind of deal.

Best ending here would involve a trial for him but also a trial for those members of the LAPD he mentions, if there's any substance to the accusations at all.

I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.

don't worry, the LAPD will "find" some to justify his assassination.


Indeed. The dude is crazy and I hope he's stopped ASAP, but I also would love for him to be brought in alive. Both to pay for his crimes, and (if the corruption alleges is accurate) to aid with an investigation into the LAPD.

If he's still in LA though, I doubt that'll happen. Seems like the cops are in a "shoot first" mode right now, and it's hard to blame them given their own are being attacked, so he's pretty doomed unless he turns himself in (and maybe even then, depending how trigger happy they are).

Either way, hoping no more innocents get hurt. That's the priority.
 
2013-02-07 08:21:04 PM

cuzsis: Did I miss the part where he followed proper channels to tell a teacher about it?


Yes.
 
2013-02-07 08:21:12 PM

you are a puppet: Tebow, I really wanted to see you take charge of an offense again and the game. You are not a good QB by todays standards, but you are a great football player who knows how to lead a team and WIN. You will be "Tebowing" when you reach your next team. I have faith in you. Get out of that circus they call the Jets and away from the reality TV star, Rex Ryan, and Mark Rapist Sanchez.

God this is epic.


Seriously. Aside from liking Anderson Cooper, this guy rambles like the black GaryPDX.
 
2013-02-07 08:21:12 PM

Amos Quito: Bullshiat.

1. LAPD corrupt? LOL! So what else is new?
2. Former FIRED cop whines about corruption and doesn't get a "fair hearing"?  Not news.

CNN calls LAPD: "Oh yeah, he was a nutcase - a liar, misogynist, a racist and a bully. We had to fire him."
CNN: Sorry to trouble you, but we were just following up. Thanks for your time, officer

Not news.


That is nowhere close to how that would play out, but alright.  There would be a confirmation, outside vetting, and verification by third parties.  Of course you believe that his tactics so far are acceptable to gain a look into his manifesto... So I'm not expecting much here.
 
2013-02-07 08:21:21 PM

BSABSVR: HMS_Blinkin: NewportBarGuy: I'm not reading all that sh*t.

If he took that much time to write all that, I'm just gonna say he's guilty.

So you really don't believe that there is any chance that the LAPD would be racist and unfair in any way?  The guy's a nutjob and obviously he's airing his grievances in the worst possible way (would it be THAT hard to find a journalist who wants to break these big allegations, assuming they're true?!), but I have to admit that his rant isn't that far fetched.  Frankly, some parts of it aren't even all that surprising.

FUN FACT: The LAPD can be corrupt as all hell and at the same time this guy could be guilty of killing innocent people.


An intelligent post, what a rarity.
 
2013-02-07 08:22:52 PM
Unfortunately this sort of rampage is going to become more and more common until we address the chronic shortage of guns in Obama's America.
 
2013-02-07 08:23:21 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Agarista: I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.

Dorne's gonna die in a hail of bullets.  He's gonna die because he wants to die, and the cops are happy to oblige him.

The cops didn't shoot at a "random" vehicle.  They shot at a vehicle that matched a description of the suspect's, approaching them slowly with headlights off at 5:00 a.m., after something was thrown out of its window.  They aren't "willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties."  They're scared shiatless and trigger-happy.  I would be the same in their position.


Neither truck matched the description at all. One was a blue Chevy pickup, the other was a black Honda king cab. The Honda was rammed and then riddled with bullets, and unlike most stories, we have no idea what happened to the passengers in those vehicles.

The LAPD is on a rampage.

There are procedures for dealing with known hostile occupants of vehicles. The LAPD have to deal with it all the time... none of those procedures involve what we've seen.
 
2013-02-07 08:23:32 PM
Damn.


Get some.
 
2013-02-07 08:23:46 PM

InitialCommentGuy: Amos Quito:
Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.

Yes.  CNN would have ignored a treatise on systematic corruption in the LAPD including names, dates, and times of felonies.  They would have never investigated such a package at all.

This disconnect required to believe this is staggering.


Wait until Amos tells you who he blames....
 
2013-02-07 08:23:52 PM
I read it to the beat of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS0Rqw92DOc">Here We Come</a>.
 
2013-02-07 08:24:06 PM

Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

But to them, every cop is a bad cop.
FTFY.

You really believe Drew is some kind of rabid cop hater? You've been here nearly as long as I have and I can't think of one single thing the man has ever said to even remotely support that assertion. If you have quotes I'd love to see them.

I don't know if it's Drew or somebody else up there, but yeah it's pretty obvious with the number of anti - bad cop threads that get posted.
I don't know if he's really anti-cop, or they just generate a lot of hits.


FTFY again
 
2013-02-07 08:24:18 PM

Mitrovarr: Bontesla: I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.

What's the alternative? They're not dead? Someone else killed them at the very same moment this guy released his manifesto and went on the run? Someone else killed them and he took credit? Short of conspiracy theory territory, I just don't see any other reasonable possibility than him having done it. I mean, he says he's going after their families in the manifesto.


They're obviously dead. The question is by whom and for what?
It's equally plausible that the daughter has been helping Dorner collect evidence of corruption ever since he left the PD. He finally lands the "smoking gun" - which unfortunately implicates the daughter's father. She didn't expect this and tips her father that Dorner knows and he wants to expose the scandal. The father tips his co-conspirators who decide to tie up all the loose ends framing and discrediting Dorner.

Dorner hears about this on Sunday/Monday and freaks. He starts mailing out packages to famous people in the media (like Anderson Cooper) and starts running.

Naturally this is purely speculative. I'm saying that the story fits all of the evidence we have and is a plausible alternative to the narrative we're hearing about. In fact - it's slightly more plausible then a guy coming after someone's daughter for an incident that happened three years ago.
 
2013-02-07 08:24:22 PM

LesserEvil: BarkingUnicorn: Agarista: I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.

Dorne's gonna die in a hail of bullets.  He's gonna die because he wants to die, and the cops are happy to oblige him.

The cops didn't shoot at a "random" vehicle.  They shot at a vehicle that matched a description of the suspect's, approaching them slowly with headlights off at 5:00 a.m., after something was thrown out of its window.  They aren't "willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties."  They're scared shiatless and trigger-happy.  I would be the same in their position.

Neither truck matched the description at all. One was a blue Chevy pickup, the other was a black Honda king cab. The Honda was rammed and then riddled with bullets, and unlike most stories, we have no idea what happened to the passengers in those vehicles.

The LAPD is on a rampage.

There are procedures for dealing with known hostile occupants of vehicles. The LAPD have to deal with it all the time... none of those procedures involve what we've seen.


Exactly..
 
2013-02-07 08:24:45 PM

Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

But to them, every cop is a bad cop.
FTFY.

You really believe Drew is some kind of rabid cop hater? You've been here nearly as long as I have and I can't think of one single thing the man has ever said to even remotely support that assertion. If you have quotes I'd love to see them.

I don't know if it's Drew or somebody else up there, but yeah it's pretty obvious with the number of anti-cop threads that get posted.
I don't know if he's really anti-cop, or they just generate a lot of hits.


So, you don't think it's possible that when cops do evil things and that is in the news that there will be hate? Perhaps them saving puppy dogs and kitty cats should be the only greenlit threads, and just ignore the bad stuff... It'll just go away, right?
 
2013-02-07 08:24:46 PM

noheadphones: Zoth: Probably not, since he likely condones murder in the name of vengeance, being a cop and all.  That's your logic anyway.

I suspect he feels differently about it when it's his loved ones getting targeted. (Unless the cop is the one doing the targeting of his own loved ones. They've got quite the problem with domestic violence, it seems.)

They always do.

Cops are awesome at justifying their own crimes while they nitpick at others.

You are justifying vengeance and acting above the law and yet decry it at the same time.   Not a bad troll though.  8/10


"If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for the law: it invites every man to become a law unto himself, it invites anarchy."  SCOTUS Justice Louis D,. Brandeis.
 
2013-02-07 08:24:56 PM
Seems like a pretty normal guy. But lost his marbles. I probably wouldn't sleep well knowing he mentioned my name.


i452.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-07 08:25:23 PM

Br34ch: Begoggle, maybe just go to sleep? You are going to be really agitated otherwise.

Therefore, drink milk, pee, proceed to sleep. I will say hi to you when you wake up tomorrow. Promise.


I also agree that he should drink pee.
 
2013-02-07 08:25:35 PM

you are a puppet: What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana's skull.

Ha! We need the FARK gun club in here to critique his suggested weapon and post pictures of their own gun collections and personal recommendations.


Thats a bullet not a weapon.
/probably not the Weeners this response
 
2013-02-07 08:25:37 PM
Here We Come.

/thanks new comment box
 
2013-02-07 08:25:47 PM

LesserEvil: BarkingUnicorn: Agarista: I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.

Dorne's gonna die in a hail of bullets.  He's gonna die because he wants to die, and the cops are happy to oblige him.

The cops didn't shoot at a "random" vehicle.  They shot at a vehicle that matched a description of the suspect's, approaching them slowly with headlights off at 5:00 a.m., after something was thrown out of its window.  They aren't "willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties."  They're scared shiatless and trigger-happy.  I would be the same in their position.

Neither truck matched the description at all. One was a blue Chevy pickup, the other was a black Honda king cab. The Honda was rammed and then riddled with bullets, and unlike most stories, we have no idea what happened to the passengers in those vehicles.

The LAPD is on a rampage.

There are procedures for dealing with known hostile occupants of vehicles. The LAPD have to deal with it all the time... none of those procedures involve what we've seen.


What's a Honda king cab?
 
2013-02-07 08:26:02 PM

KiwDaWabbit: I'm surprised that this type of thing doesn't happen more often.

It's not that I want it to. I don't. The sad thing is it will because we tacitly approve of this kind of behavior in the U.S.


"Tacitly?"  Y'know how I know you haven't read this thread? :-)
 
2013-02-07 08:27:00 PM
It just doesn't get any better than this.  Even when he is finally shot on sight (probably while attempting to surrender) its just another dead pig.
 
2013-02-07 08:27:10 PM

Bontesla: The only thing that really matched was the type of vehicle (ie. truck).
And if we allow them to shoot at all vehicles that drive "suspiciously" while being a truck - we're going to end up with a lot more victims. We should have higher expectations for the people we hire to protect our society.



Also, I would NOT want to be a large bald black gentleman in the vicinity of Los Angeles right now.
 
2013-02-07 08:27:36 PM

bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.

Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

But to them, every cop is a bad cop.
FTFY.

You really believe Drew is some kind of rabid cop hater? You've been here nearly as long as I have and I can't think of one single thing the man has ever said to even remotely support that assertion. If you have quotes I'd love to see them.

I don't know if it's Drew or somebody else up there, but yeah it's pretty obvious with the number of anti - bad cop threads that get posted.
I don't know if he's really anti-cop, or they just generate a lot of hits.

FTFY again


LOL yeah right.  Whatever.  Why you white-knighting Drew?
 
2013-02-07 08:27:45 PM
So Dorner has gone McAfee on us?
 
2013-02-07 08:27:55 PM
It was an interesting read until it turned into a really farked up Oscar's acceptance speech. Be interesting to see if any journalists actually try to validate his claims - doubtful because there are no real investigative journalists anymore.

I actually found the stuff about LAPD corruption highly believable, but he obviously went off the deep end along the line. But go ahead, keep on blaming the guns - not the mental health issues in this country and the stigmatization of those who seek mental health assistance.

Oh, and the only proof you need that he is nuts - "The honorable President George H.W. Bush, they never give you enough credit for your successful Presidency."
 
2013-02-07 08:29:10 PM

InitialCommentGuy: Bontesla:

Seems legit.

The car had it coming... or "going" as it were.

The vehicle was in the area of a protection detail dealing with a target who suggested using guerrilla tactics.  They were driving in the dark, passed up several homes in view of the detail, then pitched a parcel at the home of the protected.  They refused to ID, were running without lights, and proceeded to speed up as plainclothes came towards the car with guns and badges.

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.


Also known as exactly how people deliver newspapers.
 
2013-02-07 08:29:17 PM
Until the aggregate body count > 20 I don't care.
 
2013-02-07 08:29:21 PM

BSABSVR: InitialCommentGuy: Amos Quito:
Christopher Dorner's Anderson Cooper Package: Los Angeles Shooting Suspect Mailed Parcel To CNN Host (VIDEO)

I do NOT condone what Dorner has done, but a few days ago CNN would have ignored this "parcel".

They won't now.

Yes.  CNN would have ignored a treatise on systematic corruption in the LAPD including names, dates, and times of felonies.  They would have never investigated such a package at all.

This disconnect required to believe this is staggering.

Wait until Amos tells you who he blames....



REPUBLICANS!
 
2013-02-07 08:29:24 PM

Amos Quito: Bontesla: The only thing that really matched was the type of vehicle (ie. truck).
And if we allow them to shoot at all vehicles that drive "suspiciously" while being a truck - we're going to end up with a lot more victims. We should have higher expectations for the people we hire to protect our society.


Also, I would NOT want to be a large bald black gentleman in the vicinity of Los Angeles right now.


Or a small Asian woman.
 
2013-02-07 08:29:31 PM

occamswrist: The LAPD is on a rampage.

There are procedures for dealing with known hostile occupants of vehicles. The LAPD have to deal with it all the time... none of those procedures involve what we've seen.

What's a Honda king cab?


What a KING cab may look like?
cdn-static.cnet.co.uk
 
2013-02-07 08:29:33 PM

Bontesla: They're obviously dead. The question is by whom and for what?
It's equally plausible that the daughter has been helping Dorner collect evidence of corruption ever since he left the PD. He finally lands the "smoking gun" - which unfortunately implicates the daughter's father. She didn't expect this and tips her father that Dorner knows and he wants to expose the scandal. The father tips his co-conspirators who decide to tie up all the loose ends framing and discrediting Dorner.

Dorner hears about this on Sunday/Monday and freaks. He starts mailing out packages to famous people in the media (like Anderson Cooper) and starts running.

Naturally this is purely speculative. I'm saying that the story fits all of the evidence we have and is a plausible alternative to the narrative we're hearing about. In fact - it's slightly more plausible then a guy coming after someone's daughter for an incident that happened three years ago.


Doesn't make sense given the manifesto. If that had happened he would have been less 'grar I'm coming after your kids' and more 'holy crap these people are dangerous they murder their own children to silence them'.
 
2013-02-07 08:29:38 PM

Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?


Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.
 
2013-02-07 08:29:53 PM
So, what percentage of people are rooting for the ex-cop?
 
2013-02-07 08:30:23 PM
The LAPD shot 47 people in just 2011.

Chris Dorners - 3
LAPD -  ∞
 
2013-02-07 08:30:27 PM

HighlanderRPI: It was an interesting read until it turned into a really farked up Oscar's acceptance speech. Be interesting to see if any journalists actually try to validate his claims - doubtful because there are no real investigative journalists anymore.

I actually found the stuff about LAPD corruption highly believable, but he obviously went off the deep end along the line. But go ahead, keep on blaming the guns - not the mental health issues in this country and the stigmatization of those who seek mental health assistance.

Oh, and the only proof you need that he is nuts - "The honorable President George H.W. Bush, they never give you enough credit for your successful Presidency."


In my manifesto I'm calling out Millard Fillmore.
 
2013-02-07 08:30:46 PM

BarkingUnicorn: KiwDaWabbit: I'm surprised that this type of thing doesn't happen more often.

It's not that I want it to. I don't. The sad thing is it will because we tacitly approve of this kind of behavior in the U.S.

"Tacitly?"  Y'know how I know you haven't read this thread? :-)


You are most certainly the thread / dictionary reading police today.

Well, it's your lucky day. I'm the statistical police, and this thread is much to small of a sample to discern much of anything with regards to national trends.
 
2013-02-07 08:30:54 PM
What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana's skull.

And that's where he lost me.  The words were all more or less spelled correctly up to that point, even if they weren't used correctly (he says spurned when he means spurred).  It got iffy when he said he lunged over the seat and tried to strangle the n-word guy.

Kids, let's see where he went wrong.

Other Cop: n*****, n*****, n*****, n*****, n*****
This Guy: Please don't say that word, it's offensive.
Other Cop: I'll say it when I want to say it.

Measured response: You're on report, shiat-for-brains, and I'm going to make it a point not to like you.
His response: "You have failed me for the last time!" *choke*
His ideal response: BOOM!  Headshot.

Also, that much attention to detail concerning exactly which type of bullet and powder load (I'm assuming that's what the grain-stuff is) is kinda eerie.  Also, the way he phrases it makes it sound like he was going to use the same bullet for each skull.  That's economical.
 
2013-02-07 08:31:05 PM

HMS_Blinkin: I wish he'd just found an eager young, idealistic journalist, and laid out these complaints for him/her. Then he might actually have affected some kind of change in the LAPD


no, not so much.  I know a very capable journalist, whom I've talked to about being sexually assaulted by LAPD last year.  She's working with a few other people who also were.  I've pretty much decided to just let it go, since about a week later the Orange County crap happened, and I knew that it would just mean countless months of my time, harrassment, etc - and I'd accomplish absolutely nothing.  I'll talk to a couple journalists, sure, but they won't get anywhere.  I wouldn't get anywhere if I tried, either.  I stay out of LA - and OC, too - as much as I can now.

I do think it's cute you still believe in the press, though!
 
2013-02-07 08:31:13 PM

bogey: Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?

Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.


LOL except I'm not.
Hell, you can read this very thread with all the cop hate.  Can't you?
 
2013-02-07 08:32:22 PM

occamswrist: LesserEvil: BarkingUnicorn: Agarista: I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.

Dorne's gonna die in a hail of bullets.  He's gonna die because he wants to die, and the cops are happy to oblige him.

The cops didn't shoot at a "random" vehicle.  They shot at a vehicle that matched a description of the suspect's, approaching them slowly with headlights off at 5:00 a.m., after something was thrown out of its window.  They aren't "willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties."  They're scared shiatless and trigger-happy.  I would be the same in their position.

Neither truck matched the description at all. One was a blue Chevy pickup, the other was a black Honda king cab. The Honda was rammed and then riddled with bullets, and unlike most stories, we have no idea what happened to the passengers in those vehicles.

The LAPD is on a rampage.

There are procedures for dealing with known hostile occupants of vehicles. The LAPD have to deal with it all the time... none of those procedures involve what we've seen.

What's a Honda king cab?


Whatever the hell this monstrosity is:

img2u.info
Honda version of a Chevy Avalanche? I just called it that because it's a 4-door truck.

The other vehicle (Blue Chevy) that somehow looks like a "black Scion Pickup":

img2u.info

...of course, these cops are trusted to offer eye witness testimony in traffic stops without question. They can't even properly identify vehicles or even the color of those vehicles. WTF?
 
2013-02-07 08:32:26 PM
I'm confused.  Is this a gun thread or not?
 
2013-02-07 08:32:28 PM

InitialCommentGuy: Amos Quito: Bullshiat.

1. LAPD corrupt? LOL! So what else is new?
2. Former FIRED cop whines about corruption and doesn't get a "fair hearing"?  Not news.

CNN calls LAPD: "Oh yeah, he was a nutcase - a liar, misogynist, a racist and a bully. We had to fire him."
CNN: Sorry to trouble you, but we were just following up. Thanks for your time, officer

Not news.

That is nowhere close to how that would play out, but alright.  There would be a confirmation, outside vetting, and verification by third parties.  Of course you believe that his tactics so far are acceptable to gain a look into his manifesto... So I'm not expecting much here.



I believe that his tactics are acceptable?

No, what I believe, sir, is that you are a naive fool.
 
2013-02-07 08:32:31 PM

NewportBarGuy: To be honest? I don't really care if it's true. Sure, some reporter should look into it to make sure.


A reporter?

True or not, police investigators should look into it.

Yeah, yeah - police investigating police, but tjhey should do it
 
2013-02-07 08:32:36 PM

Mitrovarr: Bontesla: They're obviously dead. The question is by whom and for what?
It's equally plausible that the daughter has been helping Dorner collect evidence of corruption ever since he left the PD. He finally lands the "smoking gun" - which unfortunately implicates the daughter's father. She didn't expect this and tips her father that Dorner knows and he wants to expose the scandal. The father tips his co-conspirators who decide to tie up all the loose ends framing and discrediting Dorner.

Dorner hears about this on Sunday/Monday and freaks. He starts mailing out packages to famous people in the media (like Anderson Cooper) and starts running.

Naturally this is purely speculative. I'm saying that the story fits all of the evidence we have and is a plausible alternative to the narrative we're hearing about. In fact - it's slightly more plausible then a guy coming after someone's daughter for an incident that happened three years ago.

Doesn't make sense given the manifesto. If that had happened he would have been less 'grar I'm coming after your kids' and more 'holy crap these people are dangerous they murder their own children to silence them'.


Not at all. Dorner knows he's going to destroy families once he exposes the corruption. In his manifesto - he urges his enemies to come clean with their families. He seems to be indicating that he doesn't intend on killing them.
 
2013-02-07 08:32:39 PM

wambu: bogey: Not to many Farkers.
There's a reason they greenlit 3 articles about it already.
Drew & his fellows have been anti- bad cop for years now.

FTFY

Really, who is pro- bad cop except cops?


Most of Maricopa County, AZ.
 
2013-02-07 08:32:50 PM

orclover: /shiat dont kill me!


remember when "don't taze me, bro!" seemed like enough of a request?
 
2013-02-07 08:32:53 PM

Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?

Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.

LOL except I'm not.
Hell, you can read this very thread with all the cop hate.  Can't you?


And not one word from Drew.
You are full of shiat.
 
2013-02-07 08:33:07 PM

DynoFARKjr: "I thank the unnamed women I dated over my lifetime for the great and sometimes not so great sex. "

<insert damn, someone got served img here>


He strikes me as sexually ambiguous.  He never mentions one special person he was close to.
 
2013-02-07 08:33:38 PM
BSABSVR:

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.

Also known as exactly how people deliver newspapers.


Really?  Lots of paperboys who decide, when they are flagged down, to attempt to full speed out of the area?

The shots are all to the rear of the vehicle and the scene extends over quite a wide area.  Looks like the cops firing had to continue firing for quite awhile before the truck rolled to a stop.  You would assume the first spotting/flagging down would stop you.  Or the second, or the first shots.

But these people decided to get out toot sweet.  Not normal delivery boy behavior.
 
2013-02-07 08:34:33 PM

vabeard: DynoFARKjr: "I thank the unnamed women I dated over my lifetime for the great and sometimes not so great sex. "

<insert damn, someone got served img here>

He strikes me as sexually ambiguous.  He never mentions one special person he was close to.


In other words he was single?
 
2013-02-07 08:34:39 PM

ISO15693: I was totally on this guy's side until

"Charlie Sheen, you're effin awesome."

Now I am conflicted.

Seriously, though - while I do not wish death on anyone, He is specifically targeting epic a-holes in the LAPD, an organization with a fairly clear history of epic corruption - corruption that has resulted in innumerable deaths.

I may find it hard to hope for his capture. I sort-of hope he remains uncaptured for a few months, as long as he doesnt kill any non LAPD.


Like the woman he already killed?
 
2013-02-07 08:34:59 PM

Bontesla: Mitrovarr: Bontesla: I've yet to see any damning evidence that he's killed the daughter/fiance.

What's the alternative? They're not dead? Someone else killed them at the very same moment this guy released his manifesto and went on the run? Someone else killed them and he took credit? Short of conspiracy theory territory, I just don't see any other reasonable possibility than him having done it. I mean, he says he's going after their families in the manifesto.

They're obviously dead. The question is by whom and for what?
It's equally plausible that the daughter has been helping Dorner collect evidence of corruption ever since he left the PD. He finally lands the "smoking gun" - which unfortunately implicates the daughter's father. She didn't expect this and tips her father that Dorner knows and he wants to expose the scandal. The father tips his co-conspirators who decide to tie up all the loose ends framing and discrediting Dorner.

Dorner hears about this on Sunday/Monday and freaks. He starts mailing out packages to famous people in the media (like Anderson Cooper) and starts running.

Naturally this is purely speculative. I'm saying that the story fits all of the evidence we have and is a plausible alternative to the narrative we're hearing about. In fact - it's slightly more plausible then a guy coming after someone's daughter for an incident that happened three years ago.


Plausible speculation:   Dad found out his daughter was doing a dude old enough to be her Dad, killed her and fingered him.
 
2013-02-07 08:35:16 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: I don't know if it's Drew or somebody else up there, but yeah it's pretty obvious with the number of anti-cop threads that get posted.
I don't know if he's really anti-cop, or they just generate a lot of hits.

So, you don't think it's possible that when cops do evil things and that is in the news that there will be hate? Perhaps them saving puppy dogs and kitty cats should be the only greenlit threads, and just ignore the bad stuff... It'll just go away, right?


dude, you're being silly.  All the posts on all the threads are actually just made by Drew himself - you know that.  Discussion threads about major news items, in which the headline isn't at all anti-cop, are thus easy to use as evidence against Drew himself personally.  Since well, you know, the discussions are just him posting to himself and such and things and am I repeating myself?  Oops.
 
2013-02-07 08:35:32 PM
uh... 11,400 words... can someone read it for me and summarize? i'm much too busy looking at pictures of cats.
 
2013-02-07 08:35:50 PM

KidneyStone: I'm confused.  Is this a gun thread or not?


When guns are outlawed, will the LAPD still have guns?
 
2013-02-07 08:36:00 PM

LesserEvil: occamswrist: LesserEvil: BarkingUnicorn: Agarista: I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.

Dorne's gonna die in a hail of bullets.  He's gonna die because he wants to die, and the cops are happy to oblige him.

The cops didn't shoot at a "random" vehicle.  They shot at a vehicle that matched a description of the suspect's, approaching them slowly with headlights off at 5:00 a.m., after something was thrown out of its window.  They aren't "willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties."  They're scared shiatless and trigger-happy.  I would be the same in their position.

Neither truck matched the description at all. One was a blue Chevy pickup, the other was a black Honda king cab. The Honda was rammed and then riddled with bullets, and unlike most stories, we have no idea what happened to the passengers in those vehicles.

The LAPD is on a rampage.

There are procedures for dealing with known hostile occupants of vehicles. The LAPD have to deal with it all the time... none of those procedures involve what we've seen.

What's a Honda king cab?

Whatever the hell this monstrosity is:


Honda version of a Chevy Avalanche? I just called it that because it's a 4-door truck.

The other vehicle (Blue Chevy) that somehow looks like a "black Scion Pickup":



...of course, these cops are trusted to offer eye witness testimony in traffic stops without question. They can't even properly identify vehicles or even the color of those vehicles. WTF?


I like to call it a Honda Pantyline. Even though I kind of maybe want one but only because its from Honda...
 
2013-02-07 08:36:18 PM

bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?

Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.

LOL except I'm not.
Hell, you can read this very thread with all the cop hate.  Can't you?

And not one word from Drew.
You are full of shiat.


You're right, I shouldn't have said that about Drew.
Like I said, he probably just likes the hits/ad revenue that such threads bring.
 
2013-02-07 08:36:24 PM

InitialCommentGuy: BSABSVR:

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.

Also known as exactly how people deliver newspapers.

Really?  Lots of paperboys who decide, when they are flagged down, to attempt to full speed out of the area?

The shots are all to the rear of the vehicle and the scene extends over quite a wide area.  Looks like the cops firing had to continue firing for quite awhile before the truck rolled to a stop.  You would assume the first spotting/flagging down would stop you.  Or the second, or the first shots.

But these people decided to get out toot sweet.  Not normal delivery boy behavior.


I know my first reaction when being shot at would be to stop and ask the shooter why they are shooting at me... O.o
 
2013-02-07 08:36:38 PM

basemetal: So, what percentage of people are rooting for the ex-cop?


Zero; only animals do that.
 
2013-02-07 08:36:43 PM

KidneyStone: I'm confused.  Is this a gun thread or not?


BAN A SALTED NUTS NOW!
 
2013-02-07 08:37:03 PM

Bontesla: Mitrovarr: Bontesla: They're obviously dead. The question is by whom and for what?
It's equally plausible that the daughter has been helping Dorner collect evidence of corruption ever since he left the PD. He finally lands the "smoking gun" - which unfortunately implicates the daughter's father. She didn't expect this and tips her father that Dorner knows and he wants to expose the scandal. The father tips his co-conspirators who decide to tie up all the loose ends framing and discrediting Dorner.

Dorner hears about this on Sunday/Monday and freaks. He starts mailing out packages to famous people in the media (like Anderson Cooper) and starts running.

Naturally this is purely speculative. I'm saying that the story fits all of the evidence we have and is a plausible alternative to the narrative we're hearing about. In fact - it's slightly more plausible then a guy coming after someone's daughter for an incident that happened three years ago.

Doesn't make sense given the manifesto. If that had happened he would have been less 'grar I'm coming after your kids' and more 'holy crap these people are dangerous they murder their own children to silence them'.

Not at all. Dorner knows he's going to destroy families once he exposes the corruption. In his manifesto - he urges his enemies to come clean with their families. He seems to be indicating that he doesn't intend on killing them.


Uh no. In his manifesto he specifically says he's going after their family members.
 
2013-02-07 08:37:26 PM
ontariolightning

OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.
No worries. You still have Ted Nugent.

"Conservative" Body Count:
Ted Nugent - 0


Liberal Body Count:
Ted Kaczynski [liberal eco wacko]
- 3 murders / 23+ injured

Andrew Joseph Stack III [anti bush/business]
- 1 murder / 13 injured

Lee Harvey Oswald [Communist]
- 2 murders / 1 injured

Floyd Lee Corkins
- Attempted mass murder (Family Research Center)

John Patrick Bedell [registered democrat]
- Attempted mass murder (Pentagon shooter)

James Von Brunn [anti-Christian, 9/11 'truther' who hated the Bushes and 'the neo-cons']
- Attempted mass murder (Holocaust museum shooter)

Bill Ayers [obama mentor / Weather Underground]
- Multiple terrorist attacks and murder of police officers

Carol Anne Burger [ huff-po writer]
Her last article stated "" Yes, those Christians and Palin fans -- they're the ones you have to watch out for"
- stabbed her roommate 222 times with a screwdriver before she killed herself.

John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo [ Nation of Islam liberals ]
- At least 10 murders
*blamed on white "conservative" man. The Police even refused to investigate j.a.m. even after his license plate was run at SEVERAL murder scenes. (Nice work chief moose)

"Occupy" riots
-Multiple shootings, murders, rapes.

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.


Amy Bishop [ Fanatical Obama supporter ]
- 3 murders / 3 wounded (mass shooting

Brandon Darby, David McKay and Bradley Crowder
- Arrested for manufacturing bombs for use at RNC 2008

"National Socialist Workers Party." (Note the word "socialist.)
- 6 million Jews
 
2013-02-07 08:37:54 PM
wait, i think they're ani difranco song lyrics, all 11,400 words of them.
 
2013-02-07 08:37:59 PM

IamAwake: HindiDiscoMonster: I don't know if it's Drew or somebody else up there, but yeah it's pretty obvious with the number of anti-cop threads that get posted.
I don't know if he's really anti-cop, or they just generate a lot of hits.

So, you don't think it's possible that when cops do evil things and that is in the news that there will be hate? Perhaps them saving puppy dogs and kitty cats should be the only greenlit threads, and just ignore the bad stuff... It'll just go away, right?

dude, you're being silly.  All the posts on all the threads are actually just made by Drew himself - you know that.  Discussion threads about major news items, in which the headline isn't at all anti-cop, are thus easy to use as evidence against Drew himself personally.  Since well, you know, the discussions are just him posting to himself and such and things and am I repeating myself?  Oops.


oops... i forgot... but didn't you just like release classified info or something? Drew may be coming for you now.
 
2013-02-07 08:38:44 PM

Bontesla: Not at all. Dorner knows he's going to destroy families once he exposes the corruption. In his manifesto - he urges his enemies to come clean with their families. He seems to be indicating that he doesn't intend on killing them.


That isn't what I got from the excerpts I've seen so far.

Also, if that had happened, I'm pretty sure he would have specifically mentioned it. I can't imagine him not, actually, since he goes into so much detail about the rest of the corruption he saw. That would be one of the worst things, and one of the ones with the most evidence to verify it.
 
2013-02-07 08:39:03 PM

Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?


Not murdering innocent people?  Or are you good with that?
 
2013-02-07 08:39:06 PM
HindiDiscoMonster:

I know my first reaction when being shot at would be to stop and ask the shooter why they are shooting at me... O.o

Those cops just asked me to pull over.  Well, I'm not sure, maybe I should drive away as quickly as possible.

Sorry, but the people decided to attempt to evade for whatever their reasons are.  They chose the wrong time to try to evade.
 
2013-02-07 08:39:07 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: InitialCommentGuy: BSABSVR:

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.

Also known as exactly how people deliver newspapers.

Really?  Lots of paperboys who decide, when they are flagged down, to attempt to full speed out of the area?

The shots are all to the rear of the vehicle and the scene extends over quite a wide area.  Looks like the cops firing had to continue firing for quite awhile before the truck rolled to a stop.  You would assume the first spotting/flagging down would stop you.  Or the second, or the first shots.

But these people decided to get out toot sweet.  Not normal delivery boy behavior.

I know my first reaction when being shot at would be to stop and ask the shooter why they are shooting at me... O.o


Exactly. I'm not sure why the police are allowed to fire on a vehicle like that. Even if the occupants refused to come out or sped away, the cops seems like they've gone trigger happy.
 
2013-02-07 08:39:28 PM

LesserEvil: "black Scion Pickup":


Sorry... dunno where I picked that up from.

At any rate, here is his truck:

i.imgur.com

Black Honda Titan, looking nothing like the vehicles the LAPD attacked. I think Dorners set it on fire and abandoned it.
 
2013-02-07 08:39:36 PM

JRoo: KidneyStone: I'm confused.  Is this a gun thread or not?

BAN A SALTED NUTS NOW!


as long as you don't ban Bar Nuts, we're ok.

/mmmm Bar Nuts
 
2013-02-07 08:39:48 PM

OnlyM3: ontariolightning

OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.
No worries. You still have Ted Nugent.
"Conservative" Body Count:
Ted Nugent - 0


Liberal Body Count:
Ted Kaczynski [liberal eco wacko]
- 3 murders / 23+ injured

Andrew Joseph Stack III [anti bush/business]
- 1 murder / 13 injured

Lee Harvey Oswald [Communist]
- 2 murders / 1 injured

Floyd Lee Corkins
- Attempted mass murder (Family Research Center)

John Patrick Bedell [registered democrat]
- Attempted mass murder (Pentagon shooter)

James Von Brunn [anti-Christian, 9/11 'truther' who hated the Bushes and 'the neo-cons']
- Attempted mass murder (Holocaust museum shooter)

Bill Ayers [obama mentor / Weather Underground]
- Multiple terrorist attacks and murder of police officers

Carol Anne Burger [ huff-po writer]
Her last article stated "" Yes, those Christians and Palin fans -- they're the ones you have to watch out for"
- stabbed her roommate 222 times with a screwdriver before she killed herself.

John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo [ Nation of Islam liberals ]
- At least 10 murders
*blamed on white "conservative" man. The Police even refused to investigate j.a.m. even after his license plate was run at SEVERAL murder scenes. (Nice work chief moose)

"Occupy" riots
-Multiple shootings, murders, rapes.

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.


Amy Bishop [ Fanatical Obama supporter ]
- 3 murders / 3 wounded (mass shooting

Brandon Darby, David McKay and Bradley Crowder
- Arrested for manufacturing bombs for use at RNC 2008

"National Socialist Workers Party." (Note the word "socialist.)
- 6 million Jews


Shouldn't some of the rapes cancel out some murders?
 
2013-02-07 08:40:43 PM
Der.... I mean NISSAN Titan
 
2013-02-07 08:40:54 PM
What is the max that the two innocent truck owners are gonna get when they sue the LAPD?  I hope it makes Rodney King's settlement look like peanuts.  Of course the cops responsible will be promoted following their lengthy paid vacation, because that is how the cop shop operates.  Maybe, just maybe it will cause them to settle for one or two fewer new tanks next year.
 
2013-02-07 08:41:17 PM

pyrotek85: Exactly. I'm not sure why the police are allowed to fire on a vehicle like that. Even if the occupants refused to come out or sped away, the cops seems like they've gone trigger happy.


Welcome to the new Active Shooter guidelines.  In these situations immediate full force response is acceptable.  Could have been avoided by just pulling over and actually following the rule of law.
 
2013-02-07 08:42:58 PM

InitialCommentGuy: pyrotek85: Exactly. I'm not sure why the police are allowed to fire on a vehicle like that. Even if the occupants refused to come out or sped away, the cops seems like they've gone trigger happy.

Welcome to the new Active Shooter guidelines.  In these situations immediate full force response is acceptable.  Could have been avoided by just pulling over and actually following the rule of law.


So they're sentenced to death then, is that it?
 
2013-02-07 08:43:35 PM

utah dude: uh... 11,400 words... can someone read it for me and summarize? i'm much too busy looking at pictures of cats.


Bad shiat is going to go down until the bad guys take out the good guy turned bad guy.
 
2013-02-07 08:43:47 PM

pyrotek85: InitialCommentGuy: pyrotek85: Exactly. I'm not sure why the police are allowed to fire on a vehicle like that. Even if the occupants refused to come out or sped away, the cops seems like they've gone trigger happy.

Welcome to the new Active Shooter guidelines.  In these situations immediate full force response is acceptable.  Could have been avoided by just pulling over and actually following the rule of law.

So they're sentenced to death then, is that it?


Think of it as a drone strike and it'll be obvious its perfectly legal.
 
2013-02-07 08:43:50 PM
This should be quite the circus, especially if they capture him alive and put him on trial (unlikely.) I wonder if there will be riots? Those are always fun.
 
2013-02-07 08:43:53 PM

InitialCommentGuy: HindiDiscoMonster:

I know my first reaction when being shot at would be to stop and ask the shooter why they are shooting at me... O.o

Those cops just asked me to pull over.  Well, I'm not sure, maybe I should drive away as quickly as possible.

Sorry, but the people decided to attempt to evade for whatever their reasons are.  They chose the wrong time to try to evade.


you know how i know you have never delivered a paper?

hint 1: it's hard to tell what someone is wearing at night with no headlights
hint 2: they (the victims) may not have spoken perfect english and as such may not have understood the commands being yelled at them
hint 3: when unknown persons pointing something roughly gun shaped at you in LA you flee unless you want to die that is
 
2013-02-07 08:44:21 PM

Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?

Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.

LOL except I'm not.
Hell, you can read this very thread with all the cop hate.  Can't you?

And not one word from Drew.
You are full of shiat.

You're right, I shouldn't have said that about Drew.
Like I said, he probably just likes the hits/ad revenue that such threads bring.


He probably does like to make more money rather than less. The problem is, if he didn't post threads about a major story like this we'd have some other wackadoodle in here biatching about him ignoring it.
 
2013-02-07 08:44:35 PM

InitialCommentGuy: HindiDiscoMonster:

I know my first reaction when being shot at would be to stop and ask the shooter why they are shooting at me... O.o

Those cops just asked me to pull over.  Well, I'm not sure, maybe I should drive away as quickly as possible.

Sorry, but the people decided to attempt to evade for whatever their reasons are.  They chose the wrong time to try to evade.


img2u.info

It was an undercover vehicle who RAMMED THEM FIRST (Note the damage on the side), then proceeded to get out and shoot up the vehicle.

As for the LAPD's story, are we really going to unquestioningly believe it, at any rate?

I'm no cop hater, but you have to be pretty stupid and blind to think there isn't something pretty damn bad going on right now.

As I said above, this story has no good guys, and the fact that one set of bad guys is the farkin' LAPD, should scare people.
 
2013-02-07 08:44:48 PM

Ego edo infantia cattus: Bad shiat is going to go down until the bad guys take out the good guy

 
2013-02-07 08:44:58 PM
pyrotek85:

So they're sentenced to death then, is that it?

Neutralization of the possible threat.  Sorry, but you don't run when flagged down, and don't act like a moron and try to run from cops with guns drawn.
 
2013-02-07 08:45:27 PM

Bontesla: Not at all. Dorner knows he's going to destroy families once he exposes the corruption. In his manifesto - he urges his enemies to come clean with their families. He seems to be indicating that he doesn't intend on killing them.


err...except he said this:

"I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I'm terminating yours.  Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead."

Seems a little, um, like he was planning on killing their kids.
 
2013-02-07 08:45:48 PM

Happy Hours: True or not, police investigators should look into it.


Absolutely. Just as soon as they scrape this dick off the pavement.
 
2013-02-07 08:46:03 PM

InitialCommentGuy: BSABSVR:

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.

Also known as exactly how people deliver newspapers.

Really?  Lots of paperboys who decide, when they are flagged down, to attempt to full speed out of the area?

The shots are all to the rear of the vehicle and the scene extends over quite a wide area.  Looks like the cops firing had to continue firing for quite awhile before the truck rolled to a stop.  You would assume the first spotting/flagging down would stop you.  Or the second, or the first shots.

But these people decided to get out toot sweet.  Not normal delivery boy behavior.


Oh, you're cherry picking my comment. Then farking kill yourself. Better yet, go wander LA at night this week, you worthless bag of shiat.
 
2013-02-07 08:46:05 PM

malaktaus: This should be quite the circus, especially if they capture him alive and put him on trial (unlikely.) I wonder if there will be riots? Those are always fun.


This is LA you know...
 
2013-02-07 08:46:14 PM

rwfan: Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?

Not murdering innocent people?  Or are you good with that?



Yep. I'm totally on board with that, chum.

So you believe that the LA Cops are now totally justified for shooting at random pick-ups? Right?

/Tit for tat
 
2013-02-07 08:46:33 PM

OnlyM3: ontariolightning

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.



yes, the white sheets were the libbiest libs who ever libed. disgusting to watch those anonymous bleeding hearts hiding behind their white sheets while out in FORCE supporting equality and justice for all. truly, a travesty. also note their atheistic angle of burning crosses which no jebus lover would ever condone

0/10
 
2013-02-07 08:46:38 PM
Begoggle you have some cop jizz on your face.

No, the other side.

You got it.
 
2013-02-07 08:46:58 PM

Amos Quito: No where near as dangerous as the crazed mob that's hunting him


While on overtime ka ching . Lot of Officers going to have a new boat this summer.
 
2013-02-07 08:48:01 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Plausible speculation: Dad found out his daughter was doing a dude old enough to be her Dad, killed her and fingered him.


And dad killed the fiance too? And then Dorners didn't say anything about this in his manifesto at all, despite it being an itemized list of all of the crimes he believes his enemies committed?

Seems unlikely.
 
2013-02-07 08:48:13 PM
L.A. proved too much for the man,
So he's leavin' the life he's come to know,
He said he's goin' back to find
Ooh, what's left of his world,
The world he left behind
Not so long ago.
He's leaving,
 
2013-02-07 08:48:15 PM

pyrotek85: InitialCommentGuy: pyrotek85: Exactly. I'm not sure why the police are allowed to fire on a vehicle like that. Even if the occupants refused to come out or sped away, the cops seems like they've gone trigger happy.

Welcome to the new Active Shooter guidelines.  In these situations immediate full force response is acceptable.  Could have been avoided by just pulling over and actually following the rule of law.

So they're sentenced to death then, is that it?


When it's us or them, it's always them.  That's why the city has insurance and we have qualified immunity.
 
2013-02-07 08:48:19 PM

OnlyM3: ontariolightning

OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.
No worries. You still have Ted Nugent.
"Conservative" Body Count:
Ted Nugent - 0


Liberal Body Count:
Ted Kaczynski [liberal eco wacko]
- 3 murders / 23+ injured

Andrew Joseph Stack III [anti bush/business]
- 1 murder / 13 injured

Lee Harvey Oswald [Communist]
- 2 murders / 1 injured

Floyd Lee Corkins
- Attempted mass murder (Family Research Center)

John Patrick Bedell [registered democrat]
- Attempted mass murder (Pentagon shooter)

James Von Brunn [anti-Christian, 9/11 'truther' who hated the Bushes and 'the neo-cons']
- Attempted mass murder (Holocaust museum shooter)

Bill Ayers [obama mentor / Weather Underground]
- Multiple terrorist attacks and murder of police officers

Carol Anne Burger [ huff-po writer]
Her last article stated "" Yes, those Christians and Palin fans -- they're the ones you have to watch out for"
- stabbed her roommate 222 times with a screwdriver before she killed herself.

John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo [ Nation of Islam liberals ]
- At least 10 murders
*blamed on white "conservative" man. The Police even refused to investigate j.a.m. even after his license plate was run at SEVERAL murder scenes. (Nice work chief moose)

"Occupy" riots
-Multiple shootings, murders, rapes.

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.


Amy Bishop [ Fanatical Obama supporter ]
- 3 murders / 3 wounded (mass shooting

Brandon Darby, David McKay and Bradley Crowder
- Arrested for manufacturing bombs for use at RNC 2008

"National Socialist Workers Party." (Note the word "socialist.)
- 6 million Jews


I know I shouldn't respond to the troll...
Nazism is extreme RIGHT, not left dumbass. The "socialist" was tacked on so it would be more appealing to a larger audience (part of the German propaganda wing).
The KKK was, and still is, ran by conservative rednecks. Democrats were not "liberals" and were WAY different back in the 40's than they are now. I suspect a large portion of your other "examples" are bullshiat too.
Learn your history before you start spouting off nonsense.
 
2013-02-07 08:48:48 PM

occamswrist: pyrotek85: InitialCommentGuy: pyrotek85: Exactly. I'm not sure why the police are allowed to fire on a vehicle like that. Even if the occupants refused to come out or sped away, the cops seems like they've gone trigger happy.

Welcome to the new Active Shooter guidelines.  In these situations immediate full force response is acceptable.  Could have been avoided by just pulling over and actually following the rule of law.

So they're sentenced to death then, is that it?

Think of it as a drone strike and it'll be obvious its perfectly legal.



OF COURSE!!! LABEL HIM A TERRORIST!!!

Why hasn't the LAPD thought of that?
 
2013-02-07 08:48:57 PM

Ego edo infantia cattus: Bad shiat is going to go down until the bad guys take out the good guy turned bad guy.


uh...

marklar marklar'd the marlars so the marklars need to marklar the marklar ?
 
2013-02-07 08:48:57 PM

LesserEvil: LesserEvil: "black Scion Pickup":

Sorry... dunno where I picked that up from.

At any rate, here is his truck:

[i.imgur.com image 491x283]

Black Honda Titan, looking nothing like the vehicles the LAPD attacked. I think Dorners set it on fire and abandoned it.


It's a Nissan Titan, or is that the joke?

...anyway, for the sake of argument, human color sense is extremely poor in low light. Dark blue, blue, gray, black can all look alike in low light conditions.

Stay safe LAPD. And if you're not wanted in LA, I'd happily raise my taxes to pay for you to come up and be my police officers.
 
2013-02-07 08:48:57 PM
A guy I worked with had a small sign in his cubicle that said:

Make a list
Buy the ammo
Just do it

It had check marks on the first two.  He said that in the year it was up I was the only one to ask him about it.
 
2013-02-07 08:49:11 PM
HindiDiscoMonster:
you know how i know you have never delivered a paper?

hint 1: it's hard to tell what someone is wearing at night with no headlights
hint 2: they (the victims) may not have spoken perfect english and as such may not have understood the commands being yelled at them
hint 3: when unknown persons pointing something roughly gun shaped at you in LA you flee unless you want to die that is


Spotlighted by multiple plainclothes well-dressed individuals at night telling you to stop with uniform police behind them.  Truly this is an excuse.

LesserEvil:

It was an undercover vehicle who RAMMED THEM FIRST (Note the damage on the side), then proceeded to get out and shoot up the vehicle.

As for the LAPD's story, are we really going to unquestioningly believe it, at any rate?



Not the case we're discussing.  However even with an undercover there would have been a lightbar.  Welcome to how things are handled with the new guidelines, and remember to not attempt to evade capture by law enforcement.

Is it really that hard to ask you to not break the law?
 
2013-02-07 08:49:17 PM
"This department has not changed from the Daryl Gates and Mark Fuhrman days. Those officers are still employed and have all promoted to Command staff and supervisory positions. I will correct this error."

Jesus.
 
2013-02-07 08:49:25 PM

Zoth: Molavian: Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.

Right?  The guy is clearly a gun-grabber.

Well, I'll admit that Dorners sort of lost points for that.

But as far wreaking bloody unholy vengeance on the LAPD, he's got my full moral support.

They've Farked with a lot of people and finally they Farked with the wrong one.

A well deserved comeuppance.

The police have already shot 2 innocent people (and tried to shoot a 3rd but were apparently too incompetent actually hit the person).

I think they're doing a pretty good job of justifying this guy's grudge against them.


So what would have been wrong with, in this scenario, going to the nearest newspaper with all available evidence and giving some enterprising reporter a great story? Public humiliation, or ANY OTHER OPTION, is better than going and killing people.

/I damn well hope this guy's allegations are investigated, but this was not an appropriate response.
 
2013-02-07 08:49:29 PM

Amos Quito: rwfan: Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?

Not murdering innocent people?  Or are you good with that?


Yep. I'm totally on board with that, chum.

So you believe that the LA Cops are now totally justified for shooting at random pick-ups? Right?

/Tit for tat


Yo dumbass show me where I said that.
 
2013-02-07 08:49:31 PM

bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?

Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.

LOL except I'm not.
Hell, you can read this very thread with all the cop hate.  Can't you?

And not one word from Drew.
You are full of shiat.

You're right, I shouldn't have said that about Drew.
Like I said, he probably just likes the hits/ad revenue that such threads bring.

He probably does like to make more money rather than less. The problem is, if he didn't post threads about a major story like this we'd have some other wackadoodle in here biatching about him ignoring it.


Well THREE threads about this were posted already.  A bit excessive yes?
Plus I doubt anyone would be biatching about ignoring half the anti-cop threads that get posted - some cop in some city called someone a bad word... GREENLIGHT!!!
 
2013-02-07 08:49:40 PM
TL; DR
 
2013-02-07 08:49:50 PM

Mitrovarr: BarkingUnicorn: Plausible speculation: Dad found out his daughter was doing a dude old enough to be her Dad, killed her and fingered him.

And dad killed the fiance too? And then Dorners didn't say anything about this in his manifesto at all, despite it being an itemized list of all of the crimes he believes his enemies committed?

Seems unlikely.


He was too busy giving tebow advice to mention it.
 
2013-02-07 08:50:05 PM

BSABSVR: ISO15693: I was totally on this guy's side until

"Charlie Sheen, you're effin awesome."

Now I am conflicted.

Seriously, though - while I do not wish death on anyone, He is specifically targeting epic a-holes in the LAPD, an organization with a fairly clear history of epic corruption - corruption that has resulted in innumerable deaths.

I may find it hard to hope for his capture. I sort-of hope he remains uncaptured for a few months, as long as he doesnt kill any non LAPD.

Like the woman he already killed?


Starting..... NOW
 
2013-02-07 08:50:21 PM

occamswrist: pyrotek85: InitialCommentGuy: pyrotek85: Exactly. I'm not sure why the police are allowed to fire on a vehicle like that. Even if the occupants refused to come out or sped away, the cops seems like they've gone trigger happy.

Welcome to the new Active Shooter guidelines.  In these situations immediate full force response is acceptable.  Could have been avoided by just pulling over and actually following the rule of law.

So they're sentenced to death then, is that it?

Think of it as a drone strike and it'll be obvious its perfectly legal.


And people think we're crazy for not trusting the government to protect us.
 
2013-02-07 08:52:49 PM
The best part of this is all the sites quoting manifestos edited by though who troll softly.
 
2013-02-07 08:52:58 PM

InitialCommentGuy: BSABSVR:

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.

Also known as exactly how people deliver newspapers.

Really?  Lots of paperboys who decide, when they are flagged down, to attempt to full speed out of the area?

The shots are all to the rear of the vehicle and the scene extends over quite a wide area.  Looks like the cops firing had to continue firing for quite awhile before the truck rolled to a stop.  You would assume the first spotting/flagging down would stop you.  Or the second, or the first shots.

But these people decided to get out toot sweet.  Not normal delivery boy behavior.


Now that I'm slightly calmer, let me readdress your idiocy, then I will wish bladder cancer on you again.

People who deliver newspapers wake up at shiatty hours of the day. They often drive slowly through neighborhoods throwing parcels at houses.

Should someone with a gun run at them in the dark, they are unlikely to stop and talk it out.

Once shot, people often do not exhibit perfectly rational behavior. Or complete muscle control.

Now farking kill yourself.
 
2013-02-07 08:53:38 PM
The Iraq war.. Over 100,000 Iraqis dead.

occamswrist: OnlyM3: ontariolightning

OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.
No worries. You still have Ted Nugent.
"Conservative" Body Count:
Ted Nugent - 0


Liberal Body Count:
Ted Kaczynski [liberal eco wacko]
- 3 murders / 23+ injured

Andrew Joseph Stack III [anti bush/business]
- 1 murder / 13 injured

Lee Harvey Oswald [Communist]
- 2 murders / 1 injured

Floyd Lee Corkins
- Attempted mass murder (Family Research Center)

John Patrick Bedell [registered democrat]
- Attempted mass murder (Pentagon shooter)

James Von Brunn [anti-Christian, 9/11 'truther' who hated the Bushes and 'the neo-cons']
- Attempted mass murder (Holocaust museum shooter)

Bill Ayers [obama mentor / Weather Underground]
- Multiple terrorist attacks and murder of police officers

Carol Anne Burger [ huff-po writer]
Her last article stated "" Yes, those Christians and Palin fans -- they're the ones you have to watch out for"
- stabbed her roommate 222 times with a screwdriver before she killed herself.

John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo [ Nation of Islam liberals ]
- At least 10 murders
*blamed on white "conservative" man. The Police even refused to investigate j.a.m. even after his license plate was run at SEVERAL murder scenes. (Nice work chief moose)

"Occupy" riots
-Multiple shootings, murders, rapes.

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.


Amy Bishop [ Fanatical Obama supporter ]
- 3 murders / 3 wounded (mass shooting

Brandon Darby, David McKay and Bradley Crowder
- Arrested for manufacturing bombs for use at RNC 2008

"National Socialist Workers Party." (Note the word "socialist.)
- 6 million Jews

Shouldn't some of the rapes cancel out some murders?

 
2013-02-07 08:54:18 PM
Obama needs to send in the national guard, order the LAPD to stand down, and declare the city under martial law until this is sorted out. There are no more innocents.
 
2013-02-07 08:54:20 PM

Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?

Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.

LOL except I'm not.
Hell, you can read this very thread with all the cop hate.  Can't you?

And not one word from Drew.
You are full of shiat.

You're right, I shouldn't have said that about Drew.
Like I said, he probably just likes the hits/ad revenue that such threads bring.

He probably does like to make more money rather than less. The problem is, if he didn't post threads about a major story like this we'd have some other wackadoodle in here biatching about him ignoring it.

Well THREE threads about this were posted already.  A bit excessive yes?
Plus I doubt anyone would be biatching about ignoring half the anti-cop threads that get posted - some cop in some city called someone a bad word... GREENLIGHT!!!


Its not the mods fault that cops are such total pieces of shiat that they commit newsworthy atrocities several times a day.
 
2013-02-07 08:54:27 PM

utah dude: uh... 11,400 words... can someone read it for me and summarize? i'm much too busy looking at pictures of cats.


Summary in less than 40 words:

"LAPD is corrupt and racist.  I'm going to kill as many of them as I can before they take me down.  Also, here's a long list of people I like: (long list of people he likes)"
 
2013-02-07 08:54:28 PM

Omahawg: OnlyM3: ontariolightning

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.


yes, the white sheets were the libbiest libs who ever libed. disgusting to watch those anonymous bleeding hearts hiding behind their white sheets while out in FORCE supporting equality and justice for all. truly, a travesty. also note their atheistic angle of burning crosses which no jebus lover would ever condone

0/10


Only losers remained in white robes.   I was They are promoted to red robes quickly.
 
2013-02-07 08:54:34 PM

IamAwake: Bontesla: Not at all. Dorner knows he's going to destroy families once he exposes the corruption. In his manifesto - he urges his enemies to come clean with their families. He seems to be indicating that he doesn't intend on killing them.

err...except he said this:

"I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I'm terminating yours.  Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead."

Seems a little, um, like he was planning on killing their kids.


Seriously. When you farkbags root for him, you accept that cops kids are fair game.

That is despicable bullshiat, Bontesla.
 
2013-02-07 08:54:59 PM
BSABSVR:

Now that I'm slightly calmer, let me readdress your idiocy, then I will wish bladder cancer on you again.

People who deliver newspapers wake up at shiatty hours of the day. They often drive slowly through neighborhoods throwing parcels at houses.

Should someone with a gun run at them in the dark, they are unlikely to stop and talk it out.

Once shot, people often do not exhibit perfectly rational behavior. Or complete muscle control.

Now farking kill yourself.


Multiple plainclothes individuals and cops run forward in the middle of your route, declare, tell you to pull over.

But yes, tell someone who disagrees with your brilliant opinions on the Internet to die of a terrible disease.
 
2013-02-07 08:54:59 PM
HERO.


Lego_Addict
This guy has mental issues and I hope he's held responsible for his recent actions.

I don't know- I mean, California is already having so many economic problems, and now you want them to throw him a parade?


BarkingUnicorn
"If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for the law: it invites every man to become a law unto himself, it invites anarchy." SCOTUS Justice Louis D,. Brandeis.

You don't even need to RSVP!
 
2013-02-07 08:55:22 PM

ISO15693: BSABSVR: ISO15693: I was totally on this guy's side until

"Charlie Sheen, you're effin awesome."

Now I am conflicted.

Seriously, though - while I do not wish death on anyone, He is specifically targeting epic a-holes in the LAPD, an organization with a fairly clear history of epic corruption - corruption that has resulted in innumerable deaths.

I may find it hard to hope for his capture. I sort-of hope he remains uncaptured for a few months, as long as he doesnt kill any non LAPD.

Like the woman he already killed?

Starting..... NOW


OK, I laughed.
 
2013-02-07 08:55:37 PM

Lost Thought 00: Obama needs to send in the national guard, order the LAPD to stand down, and declare the city under martial law until this is sorted out. There are no more innocents.


Thats what pierre trudeau did in the 70s when quebec separatist terror groups were going after politicians.
 
2013-02-07 08:55:56 PM

occamswrist: Mitrovarr: BarkingUnicorn: Plausible speculation: Dad found out his daughter was doing a dude old enough to be her Dad, killed her and fingered him.

And dad killed the fiance too? And then Dorners didn't say anything about this in his manifesto at all, despite it being an itemized list of all of the crimes he believes his enemies committed?

Seems unlikely.

He was too busy giving tebow advice to mention it.


Another plausible speculation:  I was poking fun at Bonetsia's elaborate speculation.with a very simple one. :-)
 
2013-02-07 08:56:08 PM
i94.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-07 08:56:37 PM

Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?

Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.

LOL except I'm not.
Hell, you can read this very thread with all the cop hate.  Can't you?

And not one word from Drew.
You are full of shiat.

You're right, I shouldn't have said that about Drew.
Like I said, he probably just likes the hits/ad revenue that such threads bring.

He probably does like to make more money rather than less. The problem is, if he didn't post threads about a major story like this we'd have some other wackadoodle in here biatching about him ignoring it.

Well THREE threads about this were posted already.  A bit excessive yes?
Plus I doubt anyone would be biatching about ignoring half the anti-cop threads that get posted - some cop in some city called someone a bad word... GREENLIGHT!!!


And they all seem to have been busy threads. People want to talk about this.
I  guess you could try Farkback and explain why you shouldn't be subjected to links to stories lots of other people want to talk about. Drew's very wise and understanding. I'm sure he would offer you several brilliant suggestions on how to fix your problem.
 
2013-02-07 08:57:18 PM
ontariolightning: The Iraq war.. Over 100,000 Iraqis dead.

Shouldnt've been talkin shiat.

lulz
 
2013-02-07 08:57:57 PM

Etchy333: Well, at least he's competent to stand trial. High IQ, even.


When you find yourself saying that a deranged murderer is sane and sensible it makes you look worse, not the murderer look better.
 
2013-02-07 08:58:04 PM

Omahawg: OnlyM3: ontariolightning

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.


yes, the white sheets were the libbiest libs who ever libed. disgusting to watch those anonymous bleeding hearts hiding behind their white sheets while out in FORCE supporting equality and justice for all. truly, a travesty. also note their atheistic angle of burning crosses which no jebus lover would ever condone

0/10


Things have changed since back then. The Democrats are now Republicans and the Republicans are now crazy people.
 
2013-02-07 08:58:15 PM
ontariolightning:

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.


"National Socialist Workers Party." (Note the word "socialist.)
- 6 million Jews


appmakr-clientimages.s3.amazonaws.com

If the words match, the shoe fits right?
 
2013-02-07 08:58:55 PM

InitialCommentGuy: BSABSVR:

Now that I'm slightly calmer, let me readdress your idiocy, then I will wish bladder cancer on you again.

People who deliver newspapers wake up at shiatty hours of the day. They often drive slowly through neighborhoods throwing parcels at houses.

Should someone with a gun run at them in the dark, they are unlikely to stop and talk it out.

Once shot, people often do not exhibit perfectly rational behavior. Or complete muscle control.

Now farking kill yourself.

Multiple plainclothes individuals and cops run forward in the middle of your route, declare, tell you to pull over.

But yes, tell someone who disagrees with your brilliant opinions on the Internet to die of a terrible disease.


People (armed) without uniforms running from the shadows at you in the wee hours! Who wouldn't stop and have a chat?

It's not that you disagree, it's that you're a dishonest shiat. It's sad but not shocking you can't tell the difference.
 
2013-02-07 09:00:05 PM

StopLurkListen: LesserEvil: LesserEvil: "black Scion Pickup":

Sorry... dunno where I picked that up from.

At any rate, here is his truck:

[i.imgur.com image 491x283]

Black Honda Titan, looking nothing like the vehicles the LAPD attacked. I think Dorners set it on fire and abandoned it.

It's a Nissan Titan, or is that the joke?

...anyway, for the sake of argument, human color sense is extremely poor in low light. Dark blue, blue, gray, black can all look alike in low light conditions.

Stay safe LAPD. And if you're not wanted in LA, I'd happily raise my taxes to pay for you to come up and be my police officers.


I corrected myself in a post a couple down.

At any rate, they were delivering papers. Cop cars are supposed to have spotlights, but if it's an undercover car, and you can't properly identify the vehicle because of the poor light, don't ram it and riddle the vehicle and it's occupants with bullets on a whim. As I said before, the LAPD and every police organization in the US have PROCEDURES for dealing with a suspect vehicle. They clearly weren't followed here... and we have no idea if the people shot at by the police are alive or dead. Great police work, there, Lou.

Essentially, you'd welcome police officers that will open fire on any vehicle they cannot properly identify and attempt to kill the occupants on the off chance it might have somebody dangerous in it. Great.

I sure don't want these cops in my town. Our police do just fine, thank you (I know several of them, none of them have ever opened fire on random vehicles).
 
2013-02-07 09:00:17 PM

bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?

Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.

LOL except I'm not.
Hell, you can read this very thread with all the cop hate.  Can't you?

And not one word from Drew.
You are full of shiat.

You're right, I shouldn't have said that about Drew.
Like I said, he probably just likes the hits/ad revenue that such threads bring.

He probably does like to make more money rather than less. The problem is, if he didn't post threads about a major story like this we'd have some other wackadoodle in here biatching about him ignoring it.

Well THREE threads about this were posted already.  A bit excessive yes?
Plus I doubt anyone would be biatching about ignoring half the anti-cop threads that get posted - some cop in some city called someone a bad word... GREENLIGHT!!!

And they all seem to have been busy threads. People want to talk about this.
I  guess you could try Farkback and explain why you shouldn't be subjected to links to stories lots of other people want to talk about. Drew's very wise and understanding. I'm sure he would offer you several brilliant suggestions on how to fix your problem.


So you're saying Fark attracts cop-hating insanity?
Yeah, we agree.
Finally we are on the same page.
 
2013-02-07 09:00:42 PM

bogey: Drew's very wise and understanding.


And still hot.

www.thedrewseum.com
 
2013-02-07 09:01:14 PM

rwfan: Amos Quito: rwfan: Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?

Not murdering innocent people?  Or are you good with that?


Yep. I'm totally on board with that, chum.

So you believe that the LA Cops are now totally justified for shooting at random pick-ups? Right?

/Tit for tat

Yo dumbass show me where I said that.



You implied that I was "good with" his murdering innocent people.

Are you not familiar with the phrase "tit for tat", asshat?
 
2013-02-07 09:01:42 PM
Dorner says the killings will stop if the LAPD admits railroading him.

"Beck, the Los Angeles police chief, said Thursday that Dorner's case had been "thoroughly reviewed" and said the department would not apologize to Dorner or clear his name, even if it meant that the lives of many would be saved."
 
2013-02-07 09:02:00 PM

Ed 'Too Tall' Jones: utah dude: uh... 11,400 words... can someone read it for me and summarize? i'm much too busy looking at pictures of cats.

Summary in less than 40 words:

"LAPD is corrupt and racist.  I'm going to kill as many of them as I can before they take me down.  Also, here's a long list of people I like: (long list of people he likes)"


List of Dave's he knows:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF1chLj1fro

List of the things he likes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9glDsIaPiE
 
2013-02-07 09:02:55 PM

OnlyM3: ontariolightning

OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.
No worries. You still have Ted Nugent.
"Conservative" Body Count:
Ted Nugent - 0


Liberal Body Count:
Ted Kaczynski [liberal eco wacko]
- 3 murders / 23+ injured

Andrew Joseph Stack III [anti bush/business]
- 1 murder / 13 injured

Lee Harvey Oswald [Communist]
- 2 murders / 1 injured

Floyd Lee Corkins
- Attempted mass murder (Family Research Center)

John Patrick Bedell [registered democrat]
- Attempted mass murder (Pentagon shooter)

James Von Brunn [anti-Christian, 9/11 'truther' who hated the Bushes and 'the neo-cons']
- Attempted mass murder (Holocaust museum shooter)

Bill Ayers [obama mentor / Weather Underground]
- Multiple terrorist attacks and murder of police officers

Carol Anne Burger [ huff-po writer]
Her last article stated "" Yes, those Christians and Palin fans -- they're the ones you have to watch out for"
- stabbed her roommate 222 times with a screwdriver before she killed herself.

John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo [ Nation of Islam liberals ]
- At least 10 murders
*blamed on white "conservative" man. The Police even refused to investigate j.a.m. even after his license plate was run at SEVERAL murder scenes. (Nice work chief moose)

"Occupy" riots
-Multiple shootings, murders, rapes.

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.


Amy Bishop [ Fanatical Obama supporter ]
- 3 murders / 3 wounded (mass shooting

Brandon Darby, David McKay and Bradley Crowder
- Arrested for manufacturing bombs for use at RNC 2008

"National Socialist Workers Party." (Note the word "socialist.)
- 6 million Jews


i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-07 09:03:03 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-07 09:03:06 PM
If only the good folk of California weren't such douchetard liberals, they'd have something to defend themselves form this unruly fellow. Oh well.
 
2013-02-07 09:03:06 PM
BSABSVR:

People (armed) without uniforms running from the shadows at you in the wee hours! Who wouldn't stop and have a chat?

It's not that you disagree, it's that you're a dishonest shiat. It's sad but not shocking you can't tell the difference.


It's not even like it was Dorner they were firing on and they got a little too giddy about it. They obviously didn't even verify a target before shooting.
 
2013-02-07 09:03:46 PM

Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?

Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.

LOL except I'm not.
Hell, you can read this very thread with all the cop hate.  Can't you?

And not one word from Drew.
You are full of shiat.

You're right, I shouldn't have said that about Drew.
Like I said, he probably just likes the hits/ad revenue that such threads bring.

He probably does like to make more money rather than less. The problem is, if he didn't post threads about a major story like this we'd have some other wackadoodle in here biatching about him ignoring it.

Well THREE threads about this were posted already.  A bit excessive yes?
Plus I doubt anyone would be biatching about ignoring half the anti-cop threads that get posted - some cop in some city called someone a bad word... GREENLIGHT!!!

And they all seem to have been busy threads. People want to talk about this.
I  guess you could try Farkback and explain why you shouldn't be subjected to links to stories lots of other people want to talk about. Drew's very wise and understanding. I'm sure he would offer you several brilliant suggestions on how to fix your problem.

So you're saying Fark attracts cop-hating insanity?
Yeah, we agree.
Finally we are on the same page.


Sometimes it's ridiculous with the people who just love to hate.
 
2013-02-07 09:04:04 PM

Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: LOL yeah right. Whatever. Why you white-knighting Drew?

Drew makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. That, and the fact that you are full of shiat.

LOL except I'm not.
Hell, you can read this very thread with all the cop hate.  Can't you?

And not one word from Drew.
You are full of shiat.

You're right, I shouldn't have said that about Drew.
Like I said, he probably just likes the hits/ad revenue that such threads bring.

He probably does like to make more money rather than less. The problem is, if he didn't post threads about a major story like this we'd have some other wackadoodle in here biatching about him ignoring it.

Well THREE threads about this were posted already.  A bit excessive yes?
Plus I doubt anyone would be biatching about ignoring half the anti-cop threads that get posted - some cop in some city called someone a bad word... GREENLIGHT!!!

And they all seem to have been busy threads. People want to talk about this.
I  guess you could try Farkback and explain why you shouldn't be subjected to links to stories lots of other people want to talk about. Drew's very wise and understanding. I'm sure he would offer you several brilliant suggestions on how to fix your problem.

So you're saying Fark attracts cop-hating insanity?
Yeah, we agree.
Finally we are on the same page.


therepublika.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-07 09:04:22 PM
he kills people.
 
2013-02-07 09:04:22 PM

ISO15693: Dorner says the killings will stop if the LAPD admits railroading him.

"Beck, the Los Angeles police chief, said Thursday that Dorner's case had been "thoroughly reviewed" and said the department would not apologize to Dorner or clear his name, even if it meant that the lives of many would be saved."


Proving that he is unfit for command and needs to be removed from his position of authority.
 
2013-02-07 09:04:25 PM
I read the whole thing. Absolutely fascinating. He's literate and thoughtful. But see below:

1) His perception is that he lost everything - reputation and clearance - as a result of retribution from filing the internal complaint against Evans for roughing up the arrestee.

2) He attacked the other officers (Magana and Burdios) for saying "N-gger".

3) He says, "If possible, I want my brain preserved for science/research to study the effects of severe depression on an individual's brain. Since 6/26/08 when I was relieved of duty and 1/2/09 when I was terminated I have been afflicted with severe depression."

The one disconnect I saw was that... he thinks it's acceptable to physically attack people who use racial slurs. About the officers using the N-word, he says this: "I stated to Burdios, "Don't f--king say that". At that point there was pushing and shoving and we were separated by several other officers. What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana's skull. The Situation would have been resolved effective, immediately."

His perception is that they took everything from him - he specifically states the most important thing is his reputation, and his clearance which is worth prestige and money.

He's like a nerd, except in a massively powerful body, with actual combat training. So his nerd rage spirals to this. And he doesn't have any... internal rev limiter.

The depression plus the perception that he had everything taken from him in his termination, which he thinks is a result of doing the right thing, is what I think has led to this. Plus he's got no rage limiter.

This quote was hilariously surreal: "Larry David, I agree. 72-82 degrees is way to hot in a residence. 68 , degrees is perfect."
 
2013-02-07 09:04:36 PM

bogey: I guess you could try Farkback and explain why you shouldn't be subjected to links to stories lots of other people want to talk about. Drew's very wise and understanding. I'm sure he would offer you several brilliant suggestions on how to fix your problem.


"How can I stop seeing things I don't like?"

Drew:  "Drink lots of bourbon."

Wise and understanding, indeed!
 
2013-02-07 09:04:40 PM

Begoggle: So you're saying Fark attracts cop-hating insanity people who want the cops held to a high standard and accountable for their actions?
Yeah, we agree.
Finally we are on the same page.


FTFY yet again.
I'm gonna have to start charging you for all the free editing.
 
2013-02-07 09:04:45 PM

ISO15693: Dorner says the killings will stop if the LAPD admits railroading him.

"Beck, the Los Angeles police chief, said Thursday that Dorner's case had been "thoroughly reviewed" and said the department would not apologize to Dorner or clear his name, even if it meant that the lives of many would be saved."


our tax dollars at work

protecting and serving

actually, I like most cops but I live in a small town. the bad ones don't usually last, get sent to detroit, etc.
 
2013-02-07 09:04:57 PM

flamingboard: Omahawg: OnlyM3: ontariolightning

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.


yes, the white sheets were the libbiest libs who ever libed. disgusting to watch those anonymous bleeding hearts hiding behind their white sheets while out in FORCE supporting equality and justice for all. truly, a travesty. also note their atheistic angle of burning crosses which no jebus lover would ever condone

0/10

Things have changed since back then. The Democrats are now Republicans and the Republicans are now crazy people.



/Fixified
 
2013-02-07 09:05:15 PM
FAFA:
Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you. But, at least go the farking speed limit posted or get off the road!!! That is a feasible request. Livestrong you fraudulent assholes.

Ha! He's a bike person hater!

What assholes not getting off the road my look like:
flowtv.org

/just kidding
//but seriously, why the fark do you have to ride in the middle of the farking road even when there is a goddam bike lane!!!
 
2013-02-07 09:05:39 PM

BSABSVR: IamAwake: Bontesla: Not at all. Dorner knows he's going to destroy families once he exposes the corruption. In his manifesto - he urges his enemies to come clean with their families. He seems to be indicating that he doesn't intend on killing them.

err...except he said this:

"I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I'm terminating yours.  Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead."

Seems a little, um, like he was planning on killing their kids.

Seriously. When you farkbags root for him, you accept that cops kids are fair game.

That is despicable bullshiat, Bontesla.


BSABSVR: IamAwake: Bontesla: Not at all. Dorner knows he's going to destroy families once he exposes the corruption. In his manifesto - he urges his enemies to come clean with their families. He seems to be indicating that he doesn't intend on killing them.

err...except he said this:

"I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I'm terminating yours.  Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead."

Seems a little, um, like he was planning on killing their kids.

Seriously. When you farkbags root for him, you accept that cops kids are fair game.

That is despicable bullshiat, Bontesla.


The cops evidently consider my kids fair game.  I think the only reason they haven't gone violent is the same reason I haven't.  Not going to get away with it.  It's not because we don't wish each other to die in the worst possible way.
 
2013-02-07 09:05:55 PM

twiztedjustin: If only the good folk of California weren't such douchetard liberals, they'd have something to defend themselves form this unruly fellow. Oh well.


-50/10

You're not even trying anymore.
 
2013-02-07 09:08:00 PM

OnlyM3: ontariolightning

OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.
No worries. You still have Ted Nugent.
"Conservative" Body Count:
Ted Nugent - 0


Liberal Body Count:
Ted Kaczynski [liberal eco wacko]
- 3 murders / 23+ injured

Andrew Joseph Stack III [anti bush/business]
- 1 murder / 13 injured

Lee Harvey Oswald [Communist]
- 2 murders / 1 injured

Floyd Lee Corkins
- Attempted mass murder (Family Research Center)

John Patrick Bedell [registered democrat]
- Attempted mass murder (Pentagon shooter)

James Von Brunn [anti-Christian, 9/11 'truther' who hated the Bushes and 'the neo-cons']
- Attempted mass murder (Holocaust museum shooter)

Bill Ayers [obama mentor / Weather Underground]
- Multiple terrorist attacks and murder of police officers

Carol Anne Burger [ huff-po writer]
Her last article stated "" Yes, those Christians and Palin fans -- they're the ones you have to watch out for"
- stabbed her roommate 222 times with a screwdriver before she killed herself.

John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo [ Nation of Islam liberals ]
- At least 10 murders
*blamed on white "conservative" man. The Police even refused to investigate j.a.m. even after his license plate was run at SEVERAL murder scenes. (Nice work chief moose)

"Occupy" riots
-Multiple shootings, murders, rapes.

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.


Amy Bishop [ Fanatical Obama supporter ]
- 3 murders / 3 wounded (mass shooting

Brandon Darby, David McKay and Bradley Crowder
- Arrested for manufacturing bombs for use at RNC 2008

"National Socialist Workers Party." (Note the word "socialist.)
- 6 million Jews


I gave you full marks until the end. Your dismount cost you severely, and it may well have lost you The Game. 3.45/10
 
2013-02-07 09:08:51 PM
Wow, the guy is all over the place.  Can he pick a few talking points and stick to them please.
 
2013-02-07 09:09:13 PM

pyrotek85: BSABSVR:

People (armed) without uniforms running from the shadows at you in the wee hours! Who wouldn't stop and have a chat?

It's not that you disagree, it's that you're a dishonest shiat. It's sad but not shocking you can't tell the difference.

It's not even like it was Dorner they were firing on and they got a little too giddy about it. They obviously didn't even verify a target before shooting.


The sad thing is, it was probably one cop who was overly high strung who shot, then everyone else went in instinct.

The tragic thing is these two women's deaths are the type of thing this guy was trying to expose before he list his shiat an decided to become worse than what he hated.

The worst thing is that a month from now, it will be about the heroic LAPD stopping a madman, and the rest of the casualties will be mostly lost to history.
 
2013-02-07 09:10:14 PM

flamingboard: twiztedjustin: If only the good folk of California weren't such douchetard liberals, they'd have something to defend themselves form this unruly fellow. Oh well.

-50/10

You're not even trying anymore.


Besides, LA isnt really part of California. It is the mutant offshoot droppings of hollywood.
 
2013-02-07 09:10:18 PM
Matching the description of his vehicle or not dosn't really matter, He's probably smart enough to not drive his own car around right now...

I wouldn't be surprised if someone (aside from Dorner) who has a grudge against the LAPD were to take this chance to kill a few cops, since they have the best chance to away with it right now, as Dorner will probably end up dead and unable to say he didn't do that particular one.
 
2013-02-07 09:10:27 PM
Having skimmed the "manifesto" here are my impressions:

1.  He feels he was wrongly forced out of the LAPD for being a whistle blower.
2.  He lists numerous instances of misconduct that if true should result in a lot of firings.  He gives details that can be verified by the media.
3.  He is for gun control.
4.  He hates Zimmerman.
5.  He thinks that Charlie Sheen "rocks"

Ah, the clarity of the insane.
 
2013-02-07 09:10:51 PM

Pincy: Wow, the guy is all over the place.  Can he pick a few talking points and stick to them please.


end of life brain dumps rarely are well structured or rationally laid out, even when they are written by the most intelligent of people
 
2013-02-07 09:11:24 PM

LesserEvil: StopLurkListen: LesserEvil: LesserEvil: "black Scion Pickup":

Sorry... dunno where I picked that up from.

At any rate, here is his truck:

[i.imgur.com image 491x283]

Black Honda Titan, looking nothing like the vehicles the LAPD attacked. I think Dorners set it on fire and abandoned it.

It's a Nissan Titan, or is that the joke?

...anyway, for the sake of argument, human color sense is extremely poor in low light. Dark blue, blue, gray, black can all look alike in low light conditions.

Stay safe LAPD. And if you're not wanted in LA, I'd happily raise my taxes to pay for you to come up and be my police officers.

I corrected myself in a post a couple down.

At any rate, they were delivering papers. Cop cars are supposed to have spotlights, but if it's an undercover car, and you can't properly identify the vehicle because of the poor light, don't ram it and riddle the vehicle and it's occupants with bullets on a whim. As I said before, the LAPD and every police organization in the US have PROCEDURES for dealing with a suspect vehicle. They clearly weren't followed here... and we have no idea if the people shot at by the police are alive or dead. Great police work, there, Lou.

Essentially, you'd welcome police officers that will open fire on any vehicle they cannot properly identify and attempt to kill the occupants on the off chance it might have somebody dangerous in it. Great.

I sure don't want these cops in my town. Our police do just fine, thank you (I know several of them, none of them have ever opened fire on random vehicles).


I saw your correction after I posted my comment, I'm slow, no big deal.

The LAPD have some bad guys, sure. Not all of them are. I'd say 99.99% of LAPD are honest and have a hard job they try their best at. The entirety of the LAPD doesn't deserve to be assassinated by a nutjob. And the actual bad guys don't either! Put 'em on trial if they did something illegal.

The problem in my town is not enough officers. We need more police, but we're laying off police. And the local officer we all like, and who knows all of us, is being reassigned to a different beat.

(The situation where the officers fired on a vehicle with innocent people in it is bad, but there are varying degrees of "bad". I'm glad no one died, I'm sure LA will be sued and have to pay dearly for it. If the officers acted incorrectly I hope the process plays out objectively. But I have to say, a cop-killer on the loose makes for nervous police officers and I would give the officers some leeway for errors in judgment, given low lighting and the civilian's ignoring the order to stop)

I'd welcome LAPD officers to my town any day.
 
2013-02-07 09:11:37 PM

Pincy: Wow, the guy is all over the place.  Can he pick a few talking points and stick to them please.


I like how he supports an assault weapons ban but then promises to run around killing people with all of his firearms.
 
2013-02-07 09:12:17 PM

I_C_Weener: Having skimmed the "manifesto" here are my impressions:

1.  He feels he was wrongly forced out of the LAPD for being a whistle blower.
2.  He lists numerous instances of misconduct that if true should result in a lot of firings.  He gives details that can be verified by the media.
3.  He is for gun control.
4.  He hates Zimmerman.
5.  He thinks that Charlie Sheen "rocks"

Ah, the clarity of the insane.


Oh, he also thinks that Margaret Cho and Queen Latifa are among the most beautiful women in the world.

I guess, in LA, when you write a manifesto, you have do it like an Oscar speech and point out all the artists you really love who didn't get a chance to go nuts and shoot people.
 
2013-02-07 09:13:00 PM

willfullyobscure: Amy Bishop [ Fanatical Obama supporter ]
- 3 murders / 3 wounded (mass shooting

Brandon Darby, David McKay and Bradley Crowder
- Arrested for manufacturing bombs for use at RNC 2008

"National Socialist Workers Party." (Note the word "socialist.)
- 6 million Jews

I gave you full marks until the end. Your dismount cost you severely, and it may well have lost you The Game. 3.45/10


That's what she said...
 
2013-02-07 09:13:10 PM

OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.


scruggsfarm.com much?  Or funnin.
 
2013-02-07 09:13:20 PM

I_C_Weener: Having skimmed the "manifesto" here are my impressions:

1.  He feels he was wrongly forced out of the LAPD for being a whistle blower.
2.  He lists numerous instances of misconduct that if true should result in a lot of firings.  He gives details that can be verified by the media.
3.  He is for gun control.
4.  He hates Zimmerman.
5.  He thinks that Charlie Sheen "rocks"

Ah, the clarity of the insane.



I'm pretty sure he threw that one in as a last glimmer of hope to use the insanity plea if he is caught alive.
 
2013-02-07 09:13:48 PM

bogey: Begoggle: So you're saying Fark attracts cop-hating insanity people who want the cops held to a high standard and accountable for their actions?
Yeah, we agree.
Finally we are on the same page.

FTFY yet again.
I'm gonna have to start charging you for all the free editing.


Drew will probably give you free TotalFark after this!
 
2013-02-07 09:15:36 PM
So far The cops have:
Shot two innocent people even though their truck was the wrong color AND model
Shot AT another vehicle
Found his truck on fire
Had several of their own shot
Had two relatives of a ex-lapd officer shot.

At a guess this guys going to do more, and if his allegations are true I can kinda get it.  He has nothing worth living for other then his name.  For some folks thats what matters.  And looking at the truck of the two innocent women delivering news papers its obvious they dont intend to even think about taking him alive.  So he is going to fight like that.

Now here is the interesting thing, the Wikipedia entry indicates he got on a naval base, but didn't check out of it....what did he take from there that he needed?

He is doing asymmetrical warfare, and if he is even moderately successful other people will choose to target cops instead of random folks, Thats whats freaking the cops out, plus the whole targeting their families (a classic insurrectionist asymmetrical warfare move).  What if people are finally tired of corrupt cops, and everyone who KNOWS that they were setup and their life ruined by a cop....decides to go after them and their families?  It would be insane.

Are most cops good.  Yup.  The problem is the effect of the bad cops is WAY out of proportion to their numbers.
 
2013-02-07 09:15:58 PM

Amos Quito: rwfan: Amos Quito: rwfan: Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?

Not murdering innocent people?  Or are you good with that?


Yep. I'm totally on board with that, chum.

So you believe that the LA Cops are now totally justified for shooting at random pick-ups? Right?

/Tit for tat

Yo dumbass show me where I said that.


You implied that I was "good with" his murdering innocent people.

Are you not familiar with the phrase "tit for tat", asshat?


Yes shiathead I am familiar with the phrase.  I just think you are a real piece of shiat for being on board with the murdering of innocent people just because the LA cops shot at a random pick-up.  You are an appalling human being.
 
2013-02-07 09:16:10 PM

I_C_Weener: Having skimmed the "manifesto" here are my impressions:

1.  He feels he was wrongly forced out of the LAPD for being a whistle blower.
2.  He lists numerous instances of misconduct that if true should result in a lot of firings.  He gives details that can be verified by the media.
3.  He is for gun control.
4.  He hates Zimmerman.
5.  He thinks that Charlie Sheen "rocks"

Ah, the clarity of the insane.


See, you are getting a glimpse into the mind of a liberal.
 
2013-02-07 09:16:37 PM

Lego_Addict: This guy has mental issues and I hope he's held responsible for his recent actions.


I'm sure that was written without irony.
 
2013-02-07 09:16:38 PM
If he holes up, we might see the first drone strike of a US citizen on US soil. A little sooner than I expected.
 
2013-02-07 09:16:44 PM

ISO15693: I_C_Weener: Having skimmed the "manifesto" here are my impressions:

1.  He feels he was wrongly forced out of the LAPD for being a whistle blower.
2.  He lists numerous instances of misconduct that if true should result in a lot of firings.  He gives details that can be verified by the media.
3.  He is for gun control.
4.  He hates Zimmerman.
5.  He thinks that Charlie Sheen "rocks"

Ah, the clarity of the insane.


I'm pretty sure he threw that one in as a last glimmer of hope to use the insanity plea if he is caught alive.


He needed an editor.  The things starts great.  Great pacing, an exciting narrative, drama, heartbreak, fights.  Then it starts droning on.  Then he starts going on about high school teachers and entertainers.  I mean, this guy is worse than Stephen King at endings.
 
2013-02-07 09:16:55 PM
accelerus: this is just some big black guy who thinks the world is out to get him.

100 Watt Walrus: Uppity negro. Got it.

I mean, it must be because he's black right? Because no white guy has ever gone on a crazy killing spree when he felt his world had been turned upside down.


The closest thing I read was the manifesto of the University of Texas clock tower shooter. But that was a random attack, not at all like this. The Texas Tower shooter was like... someone possessed. He knew he was flaking out dangerously, tried to get some help but they could do nothing for him. And then he flips out, kills his family and goes to the top of the clock tower. This guy is lucid, depressed, but specifically targeting those who he thinks have wronged him.

It could be a similar thing, but his urge to kill is focused on those he perceived wronged him. Whereas with the clock tower shooter, there was no obvious target for his killing rage so it was a random attack.

I don't know if there's a link at all but FYI. These seem like different phenomena but who knows.
 
2013-02-07 09:17:00 PM

Corn_Fed: aving read the manifesto, which seems pretty clear-headed, and details real allegations of very serious corruption and racism within LAPD, am I wrong to want this guy to achieve some of his objectives?


OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.


accelerus: i read bits and pieces --


this is just some big black guy who thinks the world is out to get him. He got pissed his whinging and biatching didn't get taken seriously and is using it as an excuse to murder innocent people.

He thinks the world owes him something for being black. He's not some honorable saint, he's a murdering piece of shiat, and I truly hope when they do catch him, they shoot on site and wait till he's dead to call the paramedics.

All this supposedly stems from a complaint he lodged about a suspect being kicked/abused... she he got all bent out of shape over that, but sees nothing wrong with putting bullets into people's brains?

The sad thing is I've known more than one black person that has this "I'm black, I'm oppressed, I never succeeded because of the color of my skin, everything I do is okay" way of thinking.


gocomics.typepad.com
 
2013-02-07 09:17:20 PM

BSABSVR: People (armed) without uniforms running from the shadows at you in the wee hours! Who wouldn't stop and have a chat?

It's not that you disagree, it's that you're a dishonest shiat. It's sad but not shocking you can't tell the difference.


Yep.  Presenting identification, calling out your intent, and brandishing a weapon in plainclothes.  When a bunch of clean cut well-dressed plainclothes come out in that neighborhood?  Truly we are facing the evil Polo/Khaki Gang, the most dangerous criminal organization on the West Coast.
 
2013-02-07 09:17:33 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: I_C_Weener: Having skimmed the "manifesto" here are my impressions:

1.  He feels he was wrongly forced out of the LAPD for being a whistle blower.
2.  He lists numerous instances of misconduct that if true should result in a lot of firings.  He gives details that can be verified by the media.
3.  He is for gun control.
4.  He hates Zimmerman.
5.  He thinks that Charlie Sheen "rocks"

Ah, the clarity of the insane.

See, you are getting a glimpse into the mind of a liberal.


Relax.  Go flamewar somewhere else.
 
2013-02-07 09:19:01 PM

OnlyM3: ontariolightning

OnlyM3: Another violent leftist. His hero was Piers Morgan and other CNN liberals. No wonder.
No worries. You still have Ted Nugent.
"Conservative" Body Count:
Ted Nugent - 0


Liberal Body Count:
Ted Kaczynski [liberal eco wacko]
- 3 murders / 23+ injured

Andrew Joseph Stack III [anti bush/business]
- 1 murder / 13 injured

Lee Harvey Oswald [Communist]
- 2 murders / 1 injured

Floyd Lee Corkins
- Attempted mass murder (Family Research Center)

John Patrick Bedell [registered democrat]
- Attempted mass murder (Pentagon shooter)

James Von Brunn [anti-Christian, 9/11 'truther' who hated the Bushes and 'the neo-cons']
- Attempted mass murder (Holocaust museum shooter)

Bill Ayers [obama mentor / Weather Underground]
- Multiple terrorist attacks and murder of police officers

Carol Anne Burger [ huff-po writer]
Her last article stated "" Yes, those Christians and Palin fans -- they're the ones you have to watch out for"
- stabbed her roommate 222 times with a screwdriver before she killed herself.

John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo [ Nation of Islam liberals ]
- At least 10 murders
*blamed on white "conservative" man. The Police even refused to investigate j.a.m. even after his license plate was run at SEVERAL murder scenes. (Nice work chief moose)

"Occupy" riots
-Multiple shootings, murders, rapes.

KKK - Founded and run by democrats
-Multiple murders, bombings, rapes etc...
*don't even try to claim they were conservatives or republicans.


Amy Bishop [ Fanatical Obama supporter ]
- 3 murders / 3 wounded (mass shooting

Brandon Darby, David McKay and Bradley Crowder
- Arrested for manufacturing bombs for use at RNC 2008

"National Socialist Workers Party." (Note the word "socialist.)
- 6 million Jews

i169.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-07 09:19:24 PM

self_made_hell: BarkingUnicorn: "(LAPD Chief) Beck attributed a pair of shootings by police officers in Torrance, south of Los Angeles, to mistaken identity. In one of the instances, officers fired on two women who were in a blue pickup delivering newspapers, the Los Angeles Times reported."

Sigh.


i.imgur.com 

Nope, totally not trying to kill the guy who knows about all the corruption, abuse, and racism.

It looks like they reloaded their pistols several times. Nope, nothing like an assassination squad might do.

Is this the cop in question?
filmfanatic.org
Oh, sorry.. he was SFPD, not LAPD.

Nice job killing the newspaper delivery girl, in the bright Blue Toyota  Tacoma that looks nothing like the Black Nissan Titan with offroad lights on the roof, because she slowed down for a house to throw a newspaper on the lawn.

I guess technically, she was littering, which is against the law.
 
2013-02-07 09:19:54 PM

InitialCommentGuy: Welcome to the new Active Shooter guidelines.  In these situations immediate full force response is acceptable.  Could have been avoided by just pulling over and actually following the rule of law.


i48.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-07 09:20:16 PM
This is some twisted effed up folk hero crap. He makes sense and has a few points here and there but goddammit, he killed 3 innocent people.
 
2013-02-07 09:20:23 PM
Drew will probably give you free TotalFark after this!

If Drew gave out TF sponsorships for being objective about cops, I'd still have a TF Tag next to my name, now wouldn't I?
 
2013-02-07 09:20:35 PM

JungleBoogie: He's like a nerd, except in a massively powerful body, with actual combat training. So his nerd rage spirals to this. And he doesn't have any... internal rev limiter.


An ITG IRL?
 
2013-02-07 09:20:47 PM

badhatharry: If he holes up, we might see the first drone strike of a US citizen on US soil. A little sooner than I expected.


unlikely. The LAPD would never voluntarily hand this guy over to the Feds. He's theirs to kill, rape, murder, kill, rape, and post on a spike as a warning to the rest of the population.
 
2013-02-07 09:21:20 PM
Jesus this thread was done in one
 
2013-02-07 09:21:43 PM

Tom-Servo: //but seriously, why the fark do you have to ride in the middle of the farking road even when there is a goddam bike lane!!!


A bit of a derail, but here we go. It's because bike lanes are crap. Full of rocks, gravel, and broken glass, usually too narrow, sometimes full of parked cars, frequently slanted for draining purposes, and often there's a big concrete edge right in the middle of the damn thing, just waiting to make you crash.

Also, if there's a bike lane with parked cars to the right of it, it's unsafe. You risk getting doored.

If none of those things are true I will ride in a bike lane, and so will most people. But they're pretty common.
 
2013-02-07 09:22:04 PM

Lost Thought 00: unlikely. The LAPD would never voluntarily hand this guy over to the Feds


because he would name names.
 
2013-02-07 09:22:50 PM

Pincy: Wow, the guy is all over the place.  Can he pick a few talking points and stick to them please.


Yeah, why won't this mentally unstable man write better?
 
2013-02-07 09:22:51 PM

Begoggle: bogey: Begoggle: So you're saying Fark attracts cop-hating insanity people who want the cops held to a high standard and accountable for their actions?
Yeah, we agree.
Finally we are on the same page.

FTFY yet again.
I'm gonna have to start charging you for all the free editing.

Drew will probably give you free TotalFark after this!


That would be nice. Sadly he's probably too bombed by this time of night to read anything that doesn't start out "See spot run". If he did try he'd probably end up TFing everyone who's IP address started with 233 and deleting all those that start with 147.
 
2013-02-07 09:24:04 PM

TomD9938: Everything else bieng equal, would this guy be such a FARK-Hero if he were white?


If he were white then he'd be identified as a probable "teabagger" (or whatever the right- wing bogeyman of the moment happens to be -- "NRA member" and "survivalist" seem to fit the bill at the moment), so he'd get very little sympathy from Farkers unless he were explicitly committed to violence in a radical left- wing cause. The important thing to remember is that it is acceptable to be anti- police but not to be anti- government, even though the police are agents of the government. I believe the literary term for this is "doublethink".
 
2013-02-07 09:24:09 PM

vudukungfu: Lost Thought 00: unlikely. The LAPD would never voluntarily hand this guy over to the Feds

because he would name names.


He already named all the names he needed to name in his manifesto. Names.
 
2013-02-07 09:24:37 PM
He spouts the same opinions as many Farkers. Farkers being Farkers, rather than question their beliefs and views lift up this man as a hero. If he were white and a tea partier you folks would be itching to put the bullet in him yourselves.. It is really weird to watch.
 
2013-02-07 09:24:40 PM
What happened to that guy who was going to kill a lot of pregnant women anyway?
 
2013-02-07 09:24:45 PM

Begoggle: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

You are sick.


Nah, it's only sick if you don't take a bath.
 
2013-02-07 09:25:04 PM
When a person says a crazy thing we can dismiss all the rational things they say -correct?
 
2013-02-07 09:25:11 PM
Why did I read that in Hightower's voice?
 
2013-02-07 09:26:21 PM

occamswrist: He already named all the names he needed to name in his manifesto


perhaps
maybe
could be
 
2013-02-07 09:26:22 PM

flamingboard: Pincy: Wow, the guy is all over the place.  Can he pick a few talking points and stick to them please.

Yeah, why won't this mentally unstable man write better?


Fluent Ebonics.
 
2013-02-07 09:26:39 PM

InitialCommentGuy: BSABSVR: People (armed) without uniforms running from the shadows at you in the wee hours! Who wouldn't stop and have a chat?

It's not that you disagree, it's that you're a dishonest shiat. It's sad but not shocking you can't tell the difference.

Yep.  Presenting identification, calling out your intent, and brandishing a weapon in plainclothes.  When a bunch of clean cut well-dressed plainclothes come out in that neighborhood?  Truly we are facing the evil Polo/Khaki Gang, the most dangerous criminal organization on the West Coast.


AKA the LAPD...
 
2013-02-07 09:27:34 PM
Somehow I'm wishing that he would wear some kind of customized "Super Vigilante" suit, complete with a cape and mask. Although I think he's right in standing up for what is right and fair, I don't think killing people is a good thing, especially if they're simply police officers who aren't even connected to the bullshiattery that some people from the LAPD put him through.
 
2013-02-07 09:28:04 PM

Tom-Servo: FAFA:
Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you. But, at least go the farking speed limit posted or get off the road!!! That is a feasible request. Livestrong you fraudulent assholes.

Ha! He's a bike person hater!


It was Lance on Oprah that pushed him over the edge.
 
2013-02-07 09:28:14 PM

Kaenneth: Matching the description of his vehicle or not dosn't really matter, He's probably smart enough to not drive his own car around right now...

I wouldn't be surprised if someone (aside from Dorner) who has a grudge against the LAPD were to take this chance to kill a few cops, since they have the best chance to away with it right now, as Dorner will probably end up dead and unable to say he didn't do that particular one.



Yeah, like LAPD cops ridding their ranks of more potential "squealers".
 
2013-02-07 09:28:36 PM

Frederick: When a person says a crazy thing we can dismiss all the rational things they say -correct?


Jebus is your Lord an Savior.
The proof is as follows:
Let ACB be a right-angled triangle with right angle CAB.On each of the sides BC, AB, and CA, squares are drawn, CBDE, BAGF, and ACIH, in that order. The construction of squares requires the immediately preceding theorems in Euclid, and depends upon the parallel postulate.[10]From A, draw a line parallel to BD and CE. It will perpendicularly intersect BC and DE at K and L, respectively.Join CF and AD, to form the triangles BCF and BDA.Angles CAB and BAG are both right angles; therefore C, A, and G are Angles CBD and FBA are both right angles; therefore angle ABD equals angle FBC, since both are the sum of a right angle and angle ABC.Since AB is equal to FB and BD is equal to BC, triangle ABD must be congruent to triangle FBC.Since A-K-L is a straight line, parallel to BD, then rectangle BDLK has twice the area of triangle ABD because they share the base BD and have the same altitude BK, i.e., a line normal to their common base, connecting the parallel lines BD and AL. (lemma 2)Since C is collinear with A and G, square BAGF must be twice in area to triangle FBC.Therefore rectangle BDLK must have the same area as square BAGF = AB2.Similarly, it can be shown that rectangle CKLE must have the same area as square ACIH = AC2.Adding these two results, AB2 + AC2 = BD × BK + KL × KCSince BD = KL, BD × BK + KL × KC = BD(BK + KC) = BD × BCTherefore AB2 + AC2 = BC2, since CBDE is a square
 
2013-02-07 09:29:23 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: TomD9938: Everything else bieng equal, would this guy be such a FARK-Hero if he were white?

If he were white then he'd be identified as a probable "teabagger" (or whatever the right- wing bogeyman of the moment happens to be -- "NRA member" and "survivalist" seem to fit the bill at the moment), so he'd get very little sympathy from Farkers unless he were explicitly committed to violence in a radical left- wing cause. The important thing to remember is that it is acceptable to be anti- police but not to be anti- government, even though the police are agents of the government. I believe the literary term for this is "doublethink".


so what you're saying is....rock on, soul brother?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-07 09:30:09 PM

Omahawg: .rock on


James Dean
 
2013-02-07 09:30:10 PM

StopLurkListen: The LAPD have some bad guys, sure. Not all of them are. I'd say 99.99% of LAPD are honest and have a hard job they try their best at.


C'mon, I post some over the top shiat but you cant possibly believe that the LAPD is more pure than bottled oxygen.

There are significant proportions of every pig pen that are full on shiatheads.  Just have an encounter with one, the way they speak to you, their body language makes me want to kill their their entire family.  They ARE as bad as people say, otherwise we wouldn't be in this thread.
 
2013-02-07 09:30:39 PM
fark the main page jesus christ
 
2013-02-07 09:31:37 PM

Jackson Herring: fark the main page jesus christ


this
 
2013-02-07 09:32:33 PM
just hope the LAPD doesn't shoot the actual LL cool J by mistake.
 
2013-02-07 09:32:43 PM

KhamanV: They've opened the box.  Link here -

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t1#/video/us/2013/02/07/tsr-ex-cop- al leged-cop-killer-reached-out-to-cnn.cnn


"We received this box... and it has a DVD in it, and there's a yellow stickie that says 'this DVD contains all of the information that exonerates me and exposes corruption'. We contacted the police, and they came and immediately destroyed the DVD, just in case it contained a new, here-to-for unknown millimeter thick bomb. Fortunately, it appears to have just been a regular DVD. Unfortunately, we have no way of recovering the information off of it. Back to you, Wolf."
 
2013-02-07 09:33:06 PM

RaiderFanMikeP: the movie


Someone has to call Quentin Tarantino.  This is just too good.
 
2013-02-07 09:33:34 PM

InitialCommentGuy: BSABSVR:

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.

Also known as exactly how people deliver newspapers.

Really?  Lots of paperboys who decide, when they are flagged down, to attempt to full speed out of the area?

The shots are all to the rear of the vehicle and the scene extends over quite a wide area.  Looks like the cops firing had to continue firing for quite awhile before the truck rolled to a stop.  You would assume the first spotting/flagging down would stop you.  Or the second, or the first shots.

But these people decided to get out toot sweet.  Not normal delivery boy behavior.


yes, if someone is blowing my ride full of holes i'm going to stop, because hey, i'm sure they just want to talk.
 
2013-02-07 09:33:53 PM

rwfan: Amos Quito: rwfan: Amos Quito: rwfan: Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?

Not murdering innocent people?  Or are you good with that?


Yep. I'm totally on board with that, chum.

So you believe that the LA Cops are now totally justified for shooting at random pick-ups? Right?

/Tit for tat

Yo dumbass show me where I said that.


You implied that I was "good with" his murdering innocent people.

Are you not familiar with the phrase "tit for tat", asshat?

Yes shiathead I am familiar with the phrase.  I just think you are a real piece of shiat for being on board with the murdering of innocent people just because the LA cops shot at a random pick-up.  You are an appalling human being.



I LOL'd!

:-)
 
2013-02-07 09:34:54 PM

InitialCommentGuy: BSABSVR:

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.

Also known as exactly how people deliver newspapers.

Really?  Lots of paperboys who decide, when they are flagged down, to attempt to full speed out of the area?

The shots are all to the rear of the vehicle and the scene extends over quite a wide area.  Looks like the cops firing had to continue firing for quite awhile before the truck rolled to a stop.  You would assume the first spotting/flagging down would stop you.  Or the second, or the first shots.

But these people decided to get out toot sweet.  Not normal delivery boy behavior.


holy shiat what the fark
 
2013-02-07 09:35:16 PM

vudukungfu: Frederick: When a person says a crazy thing we can dismiss all the rational things they say -correct?

Jebus is your Lord an Savior.
The proof is as follows:
Let ACB be a right-angled triangle with right angle CAB.On each of the sides BC, AB, and CA, squares are drawn, CBDE, BAGF, and ACIH, in that order. The construction of squares requires the immediately preceding theorems in Euclid, and depends upon the parallel postulate.[10]From A, draw a line parallel to BD and CE. It will perpendicularly intersect BC and DE at K and L, respectively.Join CF and AD, to form the triangles BCF and BDA.Angles CAB and BAG are both right angles; therefore C, A, and G are Angles CBD and FBA are both right angles; therefore angle ABD equals angle FBC, since both are the sum of a right angle and angle ABC.Since AB is equal to FB and BD is equal to BC, triangle ABD must be congruent to triangle FBC.Since A-K-L is a straight line, parallel to BD, then rectangle BDLK has twice the area of triangle ABD because they share the base BD and have the same altitude BK, i.e., a line normal to their common base, connecting the parallel lines BD and AL. (lemma 2)Since C is collinear with A and G, square BAGF must be twice in area to triangle FBC.Therefore rectangle BDLK must have the same area as square BAGF = AB2.Similarly, it can be shown that rectangle CKLE must have the same area as square ACIH = AC2.Adding these two results, AB2 + AC2 = BD × BK + KL × KCSince BD = KL, BD × BK + KL × KC = BD(BK + KC) = BD × BCTherefore AB2 + AC2 = BC2, since CBDE is a square


Thats only if jebus is in a 2 dimensional euclidean universe. I believe the current position is that we are in a 4-d reimann manifold.
 
2013-02-07 09:35:45 PM
"Off the record, I love your new bangs,"

brilliant.
 
2013-02-07 09:36:37 PM

occamswrist: I believe the current position is that we are in a 4-d reimann manifold


Four D?
Fitty.
 
2013-02-07 09:36:38 PM
Your manifesto sucks.
 
2013-02-07 09:36:58 PM
Any one rooting for a side in this is a farking idiot. This is sad.
His tone kind of reminds me of the scene in Falling Down where the guy is protesting in front of the bank and he looks at the main character and says "remember me'.
I read his words and I will remember him
 
2013-02-07 09:37:06 PM
The LAPD is retaliating by shooting at random pickup trucks. That'll show him!
 
2013-02-07 09:37:07 PM

badhatharry: If he holes up, we might see the first drone strike of a US citizen on US soil. A little sooner than I expected.



If it's anything like the Afghanistan drone strikes, expect a few dozen innocents to bite it in the "collateral damage".

/But as usual, it's for a good cause


USA USA USA!
 
2013-02-07 09:37:17 PM

Greywar: He is doing asymmetrical warfare, and if he is even moderately successful other people will choose to target cops instead of random folks, Thats whats freaking the cops out, plus the whole targeting their families (a classic insurrectionist asymmetrical warfare move).  What if people are finally tired of corrupt cops, and everyone who KNOWS that they were setup and their life ruined by a cop....decides to go after them and their families?  It would be insane.


Like many people who've read Dorner's manifesto I can't help but feel a sneaking sympathy with his opinions, even as I detest his actions: he clearly saw and was willing to identify a moral corruption in the LAPD that he couldn't do anything about, but which he knew was dangerous to the functioning of a well- ordered society because it eroded the faith that people are supposed to have in the authorities. That being said, the worst kind of moral corruption is to target innocents, and he has done exactly that by going after his colleague's family. That is not justice, but an equal and opposite kind of corruption. It's a shame, too, because reading Dorner's words one can discern a misapplied intelligence that could have been put to better use elsewhere -- now he'll simply end up being killed by the police and eventually forgotten.
 
2013-02-07 09:37:39 PM

Hector Remarkable: Your manifesto sucks.


The real travesty here is that it took this long for someone to say this.
 
2013-02-07 09:38:31 PM
If only it was not against the Fark rules for me to say what I actually think about the "note the word socialist" guy
 
2013-02-07 09:38:48 PM

occamswrist: Pincy: Wow, the guy is all over the place.  Can he pick a few talking points and stick to them please.

I like how he supports an assault weapons ban but then promises to run around killing people with all of his firearms.


Thats why there is no looser here.  Cop? check, piece of shiat that thinks only HE should be able to carry a firearm? check

The only reason I don't want him dead right now is that he's killing cops/cops families.  No, cop families don't necessarily deserve to die for the sins of their cop, but cops certainly target the loved ones of their suspects.  Bottom line, it sucks that its gone this far, but you cant vilify a man for using the same tactics against cops families that cops would use against yours if you dont kiss their ass.
 
2013-02-07 09:39:02 PM
Cross posted to the other thread:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/search-for-ex-cop-stretches-to-las-vegas-19 0 2 30101.html

NHP put a BOLO for a 2005 White Lexus NV plate 534SUV  (or maybe 543, forget)
 
2013-02-07 09:39:08 PM
So fark is all about hating on cops and the constant injustice they ditch out, but when someone finally stands up to them in the only avenue we really have left since they hold all the power, fark calls him a crazy nutjob?  Makes perfect sense.

/hey man
//nice shot
///go kill some more pigs
 
2013-02-07 09:39:45 PM

zvoidx: I guess the suspect posted it...but what proof is there he wrote it, it's just text.
His Facebook page?

Am I claiming something afoul?
No, I'm just asking what proof there is that this guy wrote it.


Some of that manifesto is reads like lyrics to a Wesley Willis song.

/ Drugs? Mental breakdown? 'Blue Thunder' plot?
 
2013-02-07 09:39:58 PM

GRCooper: Do. Not. Know. Whether. To. Click. "Funny". Or. "Smart".

Brain hurts now.


www.cyclonefanatic.com
 
2013-02-07 09:40:07 PM
If the cops had been armed, like the teachers at new town should have been they could have defended themselves from this maniac.

Oh wait.
 
2013-02-07 09:40:38 PM

thisisarepeat: StopLurkListen: The LAPD have some bad guys, sure. Not all of them are. I'd say 99.99% of LAPD are honest and have a hard job they try their best at.

C'mon, I post some over the top shiat but you cant possibly believe that the LAPD is more pure than bottled oxygen.

There are significant proportions of every pig pen that are full on shiatheads.  Just have an encounter with one, the way they speak to you, their body language makes me want to kill their their entire family.  They ARE as bad as people say, otherwise we wouldn't be in this thread.


You're disgusting.
 
2013-02-07 09:40:57 PM

JungleBoogie: accelerus: this is just some big black guy who thinks the world is out to get him.

100 Watt Walrus: Uppity negro. Got it.

I mean, it must be because he's black right? Because no white guy has ever gone on a crazy killing spree when he felt his world had been turned upside down.

The closest thing I read was the manifesto of the University of Texas clock tower shooter. But that was a random attack, not at all like this. The Texas Tower shooter was like... someone possessed. He knew he was flaking out dangerously, tried to get some help but they could do nothing for him. And then he flips out, kills his family and goes to the top of the clock tower. This guy is lucid, depressed, but specifically targeting those who he thinks have wronged him.

It could be a similar thing, but his urge to kill is focused on those he perceived wronged him. Whereas with the clock tower shooter, there was no obvious target for his killing rage so it was a random attack.

I don't know if there's a link at all but FYI. These seem like different phenomena but who knows.



Just thinking... I hope this guy doesn't have military experience with explosive ordnance.

God forbid that he has a "grand finale" in mind.
 
2013-02-07 09:42:07 PM

InitialCommentGuy: pyrotek85: Exactly. I'm not sure why the police are allowed to fire on a vehicle like that. Even if the occupants refused to come out or sped away, the cops seems like they've gone trigger happy.

Welcome to the new Active Shooter guidelines.  In these situations immediate full force response is acceptable.  Could have been avoided by just pulling over and actually following the rule of law.


Who said that the cops tried to pull them over? The cops? Are we supposed to take the cops word at face value that they tried to pull the person over and they fled, and that the cops just didn't see a truck and started firing? After all they did ram another truck, which looks nothing like his, and open fire on it without warning.
 
2013-02-07 09:42:29 PM

StrangeQ: So fark is all about hating on cops and the constant injustice they ditch out, but when someone finally stands up to them in the only avenue we really have left since they hold all the power, fark calls him a crazy nutjob?  Makes perfect sense.

/hey man
//nice shot
///go kill some more pigs


you forgot this:

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-07 09:42:52 PM

Kaenneth: What happened to that guy who was going to kill a lot of pregnant women anyway?


I totally forgot about that. What did happen
 
2013-02-07 09:43:10 PM

ds_4815: GRCooper: Do. Not. Know. Whether. To. Click. "Funny". Or. "Smart".

Brain hurts now.

[www.cyclonefanatic.com image 356x471]


new keyboard....

you owe me one.
 
2013-02-07 09:43:33 PM

StrangeQ: So fark is all about hating on cops and the constant injustice they ditch out, but when someone finally stands up to them in the only avenue we really have left since they hold all the power, fark calls him a crazy nutjob?  Makes perfect sense.

/hey man
//nice shot
///go kill some more pigs


Simple logic is so farking rare.  Congrats
 
2013-02-07 09:43:49 PM

thisisarepeat: The cops evidently consider my kids fair game.


1.  Two wrongs don't make a right.  You should have learned this somewhere around age 7.

2.  Nobody outside your immediate family gives a fark who you or your kids are (and maybe not even them) , let's not pretend otherwise.   If you want to puff yourself up, go to a farking strip club.  Either way, leave me out of it, you needily self-important goddamn loser.
 
2013-02-07 09:43:55 PM

Mrbogey: Etchy333: Well, at least he's competent to stand trial. High IQ, even.

When you find yourself saying that a deranged murderer is sane and sensible it makes you look worse, not the murderer look better.


That statement of mine is saying that I would like him to stand trial and be held to account for his actions. In fact, writing him off as simply "deranged" and incapable of understanding consequences of his actions, as you are doing, could be interpreted as a defense for his actions.
 
2013-02-07 09:43:59 PM

StopLurkListen: LesserEvil: LesserEvil: "black Scion Pickup":

Sorry... dunno where I picked that up from.

At any rate, here is his truck:

[i.imgur.com image 491x283]

Black Honda Titan, looking nothing like the vehicles the LAPD attacked. I think Dorners set it on fire and abandoned it.

It's a Nissan Titan, or is that the joke?

...anyway, for the sake of argument, human color sense is extremely poor in low light. Dark blue, blue, gray, black can all look alike in low light conditions.

Stay safe LAPD. And if you're not wanted in LA, I'd happily raise my taxes to pay for you to come up and be my police officers.


unless you live in new orleans, you should reconsider your offer.
 
2013-02-07 09:44:11 PM
Seriously, literally delete the entire main page. fark this piece of shiat thread.
 
2013-02-07 09:44:22 PM

Amos Quito: JungleBoogie: accelerus: this is just some big black guy who thinks the world is out to get him.

100 Watt Walrus: Uppity negro. Got it.

I mean, it must be because he's black right? Because no white guy has ever gone on a crazy killing spree when he felt his world had been turned upside down.

The closest thing I read was the manifesto of the University of Texas clock tower shooter. But that was a random attack, not at all like this. The Texas Tower shooter was like... someone possessed. He knew he was flaking out dangerously, tried to get some help but they could do nothing for him. And then he flips out, kills his family and goes to the top of the clock tower. This guy is lucid, depressed, but specifically targeting those who he thinks have wronged him.

It could be a similar thing, but his urge to kill is focused on those he perceived wronged him. Whereas with the clock tower shooter, there was no obvious target for his killing rage so it was a random attack.

I don't know if there's a link at all but FYI. These seem like different phenomena but who knows.


Just thinking... I hope this guy doesn't have military experience with explosive ordnance.

God forbid that he has a "grand finale" in mind.


it would be awesome if he could arrange it to the 1812 overture...
 
2013-02-07 09:45:30 PM

thisisarepeat: There are significant proportions of every pig pen that are full on shiatheads.  Just have an encounter with one, the way they speak to you, their body language makes me want to kill their their entire family.


yourenothelping.pcx
 
2013-02-07 09:46:05 PM
Quotes from the manifesto:

"Jeffrey Toobin and David Gergen, you are political geniuses and modern scholars. Hopefully Toobin is nominated for the Supreme Court and implements some damn common sense and reasoning instead of partisan bickering. But in true Toobin fashion, we all know he would not accept the nomination."

"Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you. But, at least go the farking speed limit posted or get off the road!!! That is a feasible request. Livestrong you fraudulent assholes."

Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, and Anderson Cooper, keep up the great work and follow Cronkite's lead. I hold many of you in the same regard as Tom Brokaw and the late Peter Jennings. Cooper, stop nagging and berating your guest, they're your (guest). Mr. Scarborough, we met at McGuire's pub in P-cola in 2002 when I was stationed there. It was an honor conversing with you about politics, family, and life."

"Dave Brubeck's "Take Five" is the greatest piece of music ever, period. Hanz Zimmer, William Bell, Eric Clapton, BB King, Bob Marley, Sam Cooke, Metallica, Rob Zombie, Nora Jones, Marvin Gaye, Jay-Z, and the King (Louis Armstrong) are musical prodigies."

"Cardinal Mahoney, you are in essence a predator yourself as you enabled your subordinates to molest multiple children in the church over many decades. May you die a long and slow painful death."

This is one of the most curious things I have ever seen.
 
2013-02-07 09:46:20 PM

StopLurkListen: thisisarepeat: StopLurkListen: The LAPD have some bad guys, sure. Not all of them are. I'd say 99.99% of LAPD are honest and have a hard job they try their best at.

C'mon, I post some over the top shiat but you cant possibly believe that the LAPD is more pure than bottled oxygen.

There are significant proportions of every pig pen that are full on shiatheads.  Just have an encounter with one, the way they speak to you, their body language makes me want to kill their their entire family.  They ARE as bad as people say, otherwise we wouldn't be in this thread.

You're disgusting.

You're the kind of pussy that deserves what cops do to people.
 
2013-02-07 09:46:56 PM

SarcasticFark: Methinks this crazy mofo has seen Rambo a few too many times.


You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In Vietnam his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well Rambo was the best.
 
2013-02-07 09:47:12 PM

Frederick: When a person says a crazy thing we can MUST dismiss all the rational things they say -correct?



Absolutely.

I think it's in the Constitution somewhere.
 
2013-02-07 09:48:01 PM

Amos Quito: rwfan: Amos Quito: rwfan: Amos Quito: rwfan: Amos Quito: lack of warmth: RaiderFanMikeP: LL Cool J will play him in the movie

I almost wonder if he thinks he is LL Cool J playing himself in the movie about him.  Stated in another way, he watched waaay too many movies.   If any of the corruption he stated is true, this is not how to handle it.

What would you have suggested?

Not murdering innocent people?  Or are you good with that?


Yep. I'm totally on board with that, chum.

So you believe that the LA Cops are now totally justified for shooting at random pick-ups? Right?

/Tit for tat

Yo dumbass show me where I said that.


You implied that I was "good with" his murdering innocent people.

Are you not familiar with the phrase "tit for tat", asshat?

Yes shiathead I am familiar with the phrase.  I just think you are a real piece of shiat for being on board with the murdering of innocent people just because the LA cops shot at a random pick-up.  You are an appalling human being.


I LOL'd!

:-)


I did too.
 
2013-02-07 09:48:29 PM
The 'briliance' of his plan is that he doesn't have to kill all that many people. Yeah, he got the ball rolling and killed 4 innocents. He has time to drive to Kansas City now and get some BBQ while the LAPD goes on a rampage. They'll settle down after a bit and then he'll strike again stirring up the hornets nest. I think his goal is to get the LAPD shut down and ruin the names of everyone he felt ruined his, and the best way to do that is by exactly what he's doing now.

We are 'used' to these brief rampage killings, and he is doing the opposite.
 
2013-02-07 09:49:18 PM

JungleBoogie: Quotes from the manifesto:

"Jeffrey Toobin and David Gergen, you are political geniuses and modern scholars. Hopefully Toobin is nominated for the Supreme Court and implements some damn common sense and reasoning instead of partisan bickering. But in true Toobin fashion, we all know he would not accept the nomination."

"Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you. But, at least go the farking speed limit posted or get off the road!!! That is a feasible request. Livestrong you fraudulent assholes."

Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, and Anderson Cooper, keep up the great work and follow Cronkite's lead. I hold many of you in the same regard as Tom Brokaw and the late Peter Jennings. Cooper, stop nagging and berating your guest, they're your (guest). Mr. Scarborough, we met at McGuire's pub in P-cola in 2002 when I was stationed there. It was an honor conversing with you about politics, family, and life."

"Dave Brubeck's "Take Five" is the greatest piece of music ever, period. Hanz Zimmer, William Bell, Eric Clapton, BB King, Bob Marley, Sam Cooke, Metallica, Rob Zombie, Nora Jones, Marvin Gaye, Jay-Z, and the King (Louis Armstrong) are musical prodigies."

"Cardinal Mahoney, you are in essence a predator yourself as you enabled your subordinates to molest multiple children in the church over many decades. May you die a long and slow painful death."

This is one of the most curious things I have ever seen.


I don't remember him mentioning fox news one way or the other. I'm kind of disappointed now.
 
2013-02-07 09:49:37 PM

Jackson Herring: InitialCommentGuy: BSABSVR:

So yeah.  Not the smartest way to operate when you are delivering papers in the middle of the night.

Also known as exactly how people deliver newspapers.

Really?  Lots of paperboys who decide, when they are flagged down, to attempt to full speed out of the area?

The shots are all to the rear of the vehicle and the scene extends over quite a wide area.  Looks like the cops firing had to continue firing for quite awhile before the truck rolled to a stop.  You would assume the first spotting/flagging down would stop you.  Or the second, or the first shots.

But these people decided to get out toot sweet.  Not normal delivery boy behavior.

holy shiat what the fark


Someone flagging you down armed with a gun?  Yeah...I'd probably run.

Then they shoot?  Yeah I wouldn't stop either.  Thats just dumb.

And cops shooting up a vehicle without any threat?  Yeah can you say lawsuit?  These two are VERY lucky they weren't killed.
 
2013-02-07 09:52:07 PM

Greywar: Are most cops good. Yup.


Then why don't they arrest the bad ones??
 
2013-02-07 09:53:09 PM
For those of you rooting for this guy, keep in mind who his first two kills were. A young woman who was the daughter of the cop who defended him at the misconduct hearings, and her fiance. What crime did either of them commit?

Mind you, I believe the guy. I believe that he probably was booted for reporting a superior officer's abuse... but when four of his victims had nothing to do with what happened to him.. man, he lost all credibility and he just became another killer. The first two were totally innocent, and he killed one cop and wounded another who were simply targets of opportunity.
 
2013-02-07 09:53:18 PM
He even mentions Tebow.
 
2013-02-07 09:53:57 PM
occamswrist:
I don't remember him mentioning fox news one way or the other. I'm kind of disappointed now.

I think it's telling that he chose to ignore them altogether
 
2013-02-07 09:54:51 PM

fredklein: Greywar: Are most cops good. Yup.

Then why don't they arrest the bad ones??


www.people.quotejunkie.com
 
2013-02-07 09:55:55 PM

fredklein: Greywar: Are most cops good. Yup.

Then why don't they arrest the bad ones??


Today you are seeing why.
 
2013-02-07 09:56:32 PM

Tom-Servo: FAFA:
Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you. But, at least go the farking speed limit posted or get off the road!!! That is a feasible request. Livestrong you fraudulent assholes.

Ha! He's a bike person hater!

What assholes not getting off the road my look like:
[flowtv.org image 512x355]

/just kidding
//but seriously, why the fark do you have to ride in the middle of the farking road even when there is a goddam bike lane!!!


CVC Section 21202 (Bicycle) Operation on RoadwayOperation on Roadway21202.  (a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at that time shall ride as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:

(1) When overtaking and passing another bicycle or vehicle proceeding in the same direction.
(2) When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.
(3) When reasonably necessary to avoid conditions (including, but not limited to, fixed or moving objects, vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians, animals, surface hazards, or substandard width lanes) that make it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge, subject to the provisions of Section 21656. For purposes of this section, a "substandard width lane" is a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle and a vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.
(4) When approaching a place where a right turn is authorized.
(b) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway of a highway, which highway carries traffic in one direction only and has two or more marked traffic lanes, may ride as near the left-hand curb or edge of that roadway as practicable.
 
2013-02-07 09:57:16 PM
Dave Brubeck was pretty great, though.

But gushing praise for Michelle Obama's bangs? That's pure, unadulterated crazy, right there.
 
2013-02-07 09:57:34 PM

InitialCommentGuy: BSABSVR: People (armed) without uniforms running from the shadows at you in the wee hours! Who wouldn't stop and have a chat?

It's not that you disagree, it's that you're a dishonest shiat. It's sad but not shocking you can't tell the difference.

Yep.  Presenting identification, calling out your intent, and brandishing a weapon in plainclothes.  When a bunch of clean cut well-dressed plainclothes come out in that neighborhood?  Truly we are facing the evil Polo/Khaki Gang, the most dangerous criminal organization on the West Coast.



Oh fark you, cherry pick someone else. you farking turd.  I really do hope you die a painful death, alone, cold and farking scared.

*plonk*
 
2013-02-07 09:58:46 PM
If he were a white tea-bagger you Farkers would ALL be  itching to put the final bullet into the guy, This thread is really sickening.
 
2013-02-07 09:58:52 PM
 
2013-02-07 09:59:05 PM

thisisarepeat: looser


7/10
 
2013-02-07 09:59:11 PM
BSABSVR: thisisarepeat: The cops evidently consider my kids fair game.

1.  Two wrongs don't make a right.  You should have learned this somewhere around age 7.



That's the problem.  Narcissists are  forever six years old.
 
2013-02-07 10:00:10 PM
Most folks don;t quite understand that it is almost impossible to be a good cop in a city like LA or most major American cities due to it's environment. If you are a 'good' person joining the force you will either quit or you would become a 'bad' cop immediately or eventually become a bad cop. The latter 'bad' as in evil bad and former as in ineffective and useless on the job bad. Either way it is a negative for the job desriciption.

Think about it... would you rather prefer a bunch of A-type douchebags Vic Mackey typesgoing after MS-13, aryan brotherhood or even street thugs or nice folks like Sheriff Andy Taylor and Ponchorella and Baker types?

Who do you think will be effective at their jobs?
 
2013-02-07 10:00:14 PM

thisisarepeat: occamswrist: Pincy: Wow, the guy is all over the place.  Can he pick a few talking points and stick to them please.

I like how he supports an assault weapons ban but then promises to run around killing people with all of his firearms.

Thats why there is no looser here.  Cop? check, piece of shiat that thinks only HE should be able to carry a firearm? check

The only reason I don't want him dead right now is that he's killing cops/cops families.  No, cop families don't necessarily deserve to die for the sins of their cop, but cops certainly target the loved ones of their suspects.  Bottom line, it sucks that its gone this far, but you cant vilify a man for using the same tactics against cops families that cops would use against yours if you dont kiss their ass.


Uh... yes you can. Specifically targeting and murdering innocent people due to a gripe you've got with one of their fathers isn't acceptable unless you're in the mafia.
 
2013-02-07 10:00:22 PM
Just a bookmark
 
2013-02-07 10:00:48 PM

Delawheredad: If he were a white tea-bagger you Farkers would ALL be  itching to put the final bullet into the guy, This thread is really sickening.


If my aunt had balls, you'd all be trying to suck her cock.
 
2013-02-07 10:01:29 PM

blottoman: Trying to hold back right now 'cause I'm in LA.

/not the city
// a hooker


Dude, I was in the same position only earlier.
 
2013-02-07 10:01:53 PM

bogey: Sadly he's probably too bombed by this time of nightmorning 10AM to read anything that doesn't start out "See spot run".

 
2013-02-07 10:03:28 PM

InitialCommentGuy: Multiple plainclothes individuals and cops run forward in the middle of your route, declare, tell you to pull over.


Because carjackers are unable to yell "Stop! Police!"
 
2013-02-07 10:03:28 PM
If thisisarepeat is half as badass as he pretends to be on the internet he'd be more than just talk.

/Go shootin', fat boy.  Go shootin'
 
2013-02-07 10:04:14 PM
I, for one, believe that the LAPD will learn a VALUABLE LESSON from this episode: Don't fire whistle-blowers.


Kill them.
 
2013-02-07 10:04:33 PM
OK, I just realized two things.

This is what they refer to when they talk about a 'Second Amendment Solution"

And

The Second Amendment pretty much guarantees you the right to kill almost anyone you think needs killing. Granted, there are usually consequences, but the odds are pretty good that you can take out at least one, and probably more than one, person you think needs killing.
 
2013-02-07 10:05:35 PM

JungleBoogie: Quotes from the manifesto:
 "

"Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you. But, at least go the farking speed limit posted or get off the road!!! That is a feasible request. Livestrong you fraudulent assholes."
 

"Dave Brubeck's "Take Five" is the greatest piece of music ever, period. Hanz Zimmer, William Bell, Eric Clapton, BB King, Bob Marley, Sam Cooke, Metallica, Rob Zombie, Nora Jones, Marvin Gaye, Jay-Z, and the King (Louis Armstrong) are musical prodigies."

"Cardinal Mahoney, you are in essence a predator yourself as you enabled your subordinates to molest multiple children in the church over many decades. May you die a long and slow painful death."

This is one of the most curious things I have ever seen.


Meh. I can get behind it.
 
2013-02-07 10:05:53 PM

Jackson Herring: Seriously, literally delete the entire main page. fark this piece of shiat thread.


versus what?  figuratively delete it?

what a surprise to find cop haters on fark - some who want to root for this out of control liberal killer with a gun.

pathetic.
 
2013-02-07 10:05:54 PM
SuperNinjaToad: Ponchorella and Baker types?  Who do you think will be effective at their jobs?

static.customizedgirl.com
 
2013-02-07 10:05:54 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: fredklein: Greywar: Are most cops good. Yup.

Then why don't they arrest the bad ones??

[www.people.quotejunkie.com image 84x84]


Heres my observation, it tends to be by department.  I live in Hillsboro, OR.  Not the best cops in the world, but not too bad in my opinion.  I watched them De-escalate a situation, and everyone walked away.  I've been pulled over and ticketed and they are polite.  I've seen them deal with mentally ill people and get them help.

I've seen other departments escalate similar situations that resulted in violence.  And those departments?  The vast majority of the cops sucked.  Add in the whole us against them mentality and "blue brotherhood"...and yeah.
 
2013-02-07 10:06:14 PM

accelerus: i read bits and pieces --


this is just some big black guy who thinks the world is out to get him. He got pissed his whinging and biatching didn't get taken seriously and is using it as an excuse to murder innocent people.

He thinks the world owes him something for being black. He's not some honorable saint, he's a murdering piece of shiat, and I truly hope when they do catch him, they shoot on site and wait till he's dead to call the paramedics.

All this supposedly stems from a complaint he lodged about a suspect being kicked/abused... she he got all bent out of shape over that, but sees nothing wrong with putting bullets into people's brains?

The sad thing is I've known more than one black person that has this "I'm black, I'm oppressed, I never succeeded because of the color of my skin, everything I do is okay" way of thinking.


If you replace the world "black" with "psychotic and delusional" I'll agree with everything you said here.

I have a close relative who is quite white and who, oddly enough, was also drummed off the police force and out of the military.  He thinks exactly along the lines of this manifesto and I feel about him the exact way you described in your post.  Fortunately for society, he is where he needs to be, locked up behind bars, and that happened before anyone died.
 
2013-02-07 10:07:36 PM
www.diabetesmine.com Who are you complaining about ITT? You're the opposite, that's who you think is 100% of Fark, and they're Help Help oppressing you. Now you know, and knowing is half the shut the Fark up and stop whining.
 
2013-02-07 10:07:41 PM

BSABSVR: Oh fark you, cherry pick someone else. you farking turd.  I really do hope you die a painful death, alone, cold and farking scared.

*plonk*


Yes, quoting the addressed portion of your comment (which includes your entire comment) is worth an additional prayer for my death.  Your exaggeration is quaint.

Greywar: Someone flagging you down armed with a gun?  Yeah...I'd probably run.

Then they shoot?  Yeah I wouldn't stop either.  Thats just dumb.

And cops shooting up a vehicle without any threat?  Yeah can you say lawsuit?  These two are VERY lucky they weren't killed.


The police are operating well within the guidelines established by DHS for active shooter scenarios.  Of course these are totally innocent people who ran when told to stop by police officers, and who didn't deserve anything but kid gloves when they proceeded to hightail it out of the location...

ongbok: Who said that the cops tried to pull them over? The cops? Are we supposed to take the cops word at face value that they tried to pull the person over and they fled, and that the cops just didn't see a truck and started firing? After all they did ram another truck, which looks nothing like his, and open fire on it without warning.


Verily I say unto you: Everyone else can be believed no matter how insane except for those who are actually explaining their actions.  And of course all of the cops involved at both incidents were the exact same individuals, and should be judged as a collective whole.
 
2013-02-07 10:07:56 PM

Delawheredad: If he were a white tea-bagger you Farkers would ALL be  itching to put the final bullet into the guy, This thread is really sickening.


a white teabagger terrorizing police? i'd feel the same as i do now. i wouldn't give a shiat how it ended because fark 'EM ALL..
 
2013-02-07 10:08:11 PM

fredklein: Greywar: Are most cops good. Yup.

Then why don't they arrest the bad ones??


Well they are increadibly outnumbered.  Because the first statement is blatantly false.  When you include corrupt cops, also include the enablers who allow corrupt cops.  That would bring us to about 99% of the police force. You are either a corrupt cop or know the cops around you who ARE corrupt.  Why are they not arresting the corrupt cops who are harming the citizens they have "sworn" to protect?

Cops swearing "To protect and serve" is as much of a joke pledge as "do no harm" is for doctors.   Any person taking either cops or doctors seriously on anything hasn't seen the world through an honest eye.
 
2013-02-07 10:09:22 PM

AndreMA: Because carjackers are unable to yell "Stop! Police!"


Lots of carjacking rings operating in six man teams, well dressed, and carrying police badges in your neighborhood?
 
2013-02-07 10:10:41 PM

orclover: fredklein: Greywar: Are most cops good. Yup.

Then why don't they arrest the bad ones??

Well they are increadibly outnumbered.  Because the first statement is blatantly false.  When you include corrupt cops, also include the enablers who allow corrupt cops.  That would bring us to about 99% of the police force. You are either a corrupt cop or know the cops around you who ARE corrupt.  Why are they not arresting the corrupt cops who are harming the citizens they have "sworn" to protect?


Due process.  How does that work?
 
2013-02-07 10:13:46 PM
Wow. I got that initialcommentdouchebag off of my feed and 50 something posts freed up.....lol


/hmmmmm
 
2013-02-07 10:15:32 PM

Begoggle: do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.


Most Farkers would happily kill the children of their enemies if they could do so with impunity.  They are not a group of well adjusted people.
 
2013-02-07 10:15:58 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: orclover: fredklein: Greywar: Are most cops good. Yup.

Then why don't they arrest the bad ones??

Well they are increadibly outnumbered.  Because the first statement is blatantly false.  When you include corrupt cops, also include the enablers who allow corrupt cops.  That would bring us to about 99% of the police force. You are either a corrupt cop or know the cops around you who ARE corrupt.  Why are they not arresting the corrupt cops who are harming the citizens they have "sworn" to protect?

Due process.  How does that work?


It works?  Which is why we have the rampant corruption in places like L.A and Detroit?  Dude thats your last troll for me, your honestly too farking stupid to put up with.  I should have farking put you on ignore long ago but honestly that stupid farking statement was the final straw.
 
2013-02-07 10:16:27 PM
Sadly, this post will be swept away in the sea of derp, but...

There's a line. That line is taking a human life. For those who think, "Good for him, killing LAPD, because those guys have killed so many innocents already..."

Do you think the same when a vigilante kills an abortion doctor? Do you think the same when, say, a mother guns down a man who killed her child due to negligence? Where's the line for you, acceptable and unacceptable murder? You decry things like "it's OK when our side does it, since your side does it too", but this is the same thing.

NOTE: I am not saying whether or not this guy's complaints are valid. I'm sure there are dirty cops. He may have not gotten a fair shake. But what makes you think, OK. Now I'm just gonna murder people? What made that OK?

He shot this girl

media.sacbee.com
 
2013-02-07 10:18:41 PM

BSABSVR: thisisarepeat: The cops evidently consider my kids fair game.

1.  Two wrongs don't make a right.  You should have learned this somewhere around age 7.

2.  Nobody outside your immediate family gives a fark who you or your kids are (and maybe not even them) , let's not pretend otherwise.   If you want to puff yourself up, go to a farking strip club.  Either way, leave me out of it, you needily self-important goddamn loser.


I would love for your first point to be true.  I'm moving so that it might.  The fact of the matter is cops are bullies, they SEARCH for a reason to do you harm, god help you if you tell them that you will NOT comply with their commands because they have not served in combat, they have never known the fear and dread that comes with sharing a battlespace with a determined enemy, they have not soiled the sand with their blood and they know nothing of sacrifice in the name of this nation.  I have, and I will again.  All those assholes ever had to do was leave me alone.  I bother no one, so they have no duty to protect anyone from me.  They choose to harass me because I told them that they deserve no authority over me and I will not acknowledge it.  THAT is why they bother me.  I don't respect their AUTHORITI!  as cartman would put it.  You dont know me, so you dont give two shiats about me or my family, and neither do the pigs in your community.  Here in my small texas town, i'm Pablo Escabar  because weed makes my PTSD survivable longer.  The pigs farking hate that I won't quit and that I will tell them and any judge the same.  They can do nothing to me that hasnt been visited upon me already in a vastly more severe form, and that sticks in their fake badass craw so terribly that they hang around my house harassing visitors.  That makes them my enemy, and enemies deserve only death.  I will not give them death, I have sacrificed enough. They could just leave me alone, but they can not, for I have challenged their authority over what I consume personally.  DIAF.
 
2013-02-07 10:20:36 PM

Langston: Honestly, it's really freaking long and is all over the map. There's a big bit up front about his specific reasons for why he's angry at the LAPD and the officers that (he says) turned on him, but then it rambles all over the place. Politics, friendships, shiat that happened to him in middle school, missing the third installment of the Hangover...

I feel badly that his live was screwed up like this, and I don't know how much of it is other people's fault and how much of it is his fault. I do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Sadly, the last of the blood hasn't been shed here.


He knows he's going to die, and wants to have his final say -- his way -- before he's taken out.
 
2013-02-07 10:21:55 PM

beta_plus: Most Farkers would happily kill the children of their enemies if they could do so with impunity.  They are not a group of well adjusted people.


To the extent that this is true, it's more a reflection on the state of our society and the deep hatred that many Americans feel towards those who are unlike them -- especially in political orientation -- and towards those who have wronged them in even some trivial way in the past. Fark is just a mirror on that society, albeit a kind of funhouse mirror where things are unreasonably magnified to reflect the introversion and obsessiveness of its posters.
 
2013-02-07 10:21:56 PM

LesserEvil: It looks like they reloaded their pistols several times. Nope, nothing like an assassination squad might do.


I count about 30 holes. That is one full clip from each officer.

Try again?
 
2013-02-07 10:22:00 PM
From the way he's talking, I think it would be easy to find him. Just look for the heavily-armed Black guy wearing this on his chest:

robot6.comicbookresources.com
 
2013-02-07 10:22:21 PM
Being a cop, especially in a big city, is not an easy job. I read this, written about a cop who had just committed suicide, by another cop:

"You know, right before [the cop who committed suicide] died he told me that this job will blacken your soul and burn you up if you let it. Even if you don't let it, you have to work to keep your life intact. "

It's a tough job and I respect the good ones who do it. Yes, there are bad ones, nasty farks drawn to petty tyranny, but there are also the Lawrence DePrimo's or this cop who jumped into an icy river to save a drowning woman.

This situation is just epically sh-tty. Killing the innocents is totally unacceptable. Dolan has written his suicide message, so it's not going to end well. Like Colonel Kurtz from Apocalypse Now, Dorner has gone upriver.
 
2013-02-07 10:22:39 PM

thisisarepeat: BSABSVR: thisisarepeat: The cops evidently consider my kids fair game.

1.  Two wrongs don't make a right.  You should have learned this somewhere around age 7.

2.  Nobody outside your immediate family gives a fark who you or your kids are (and maybe not even them) , let's not pretend otherwise.   If you want to puff yourself up, go to a farking strip club.  Either way, leave me out of it, you needily self-important goddamn loser.

I would love for your first point to be true.  I'm moving so that it might.  The fact of the matter is cops are bullies, they SEARCH for a reason to do you harm, god help you if you tell them that you will NOT comply with their commands because they have not served in combat, they have never known the fear and dread that comes with sharing a battlespace with a determined enemy, they have not soiled the sand with their blood and they know nothing of sacrifice in the name of this nation.  I have, and I will again.  All those assholes ever had to do was leave me alone.  I bother no one, so they have no duty to protect anyone from me.  They choose to harass me because I told them that they deserve no authority over me and I will not acknowledge it.  THAT is why they bother me.  I don't respect their AUTHORITI!  as cartman would put it.  You dont know me, so you dont give two shiats about me or my family, and neither do the pigs in your community.  Here in my small texas town, i'm Pablo Escabar  because weed makes my PTSD survivable longer.  The pigs farking hate that I won't quit and that I will tell them and any judge the same.  They can do nothing to me that hasnt been visited upon me already in a vastly more severe form, and that sticks in their fake badass craw so terribly that they hang around my house harassing visitors.  That makes them my enemy, and enemies deserve only death.  I will not give them death, I have sacrificed enough. They could just leave me alone, but they can not, for I have challenged their authority over what I cons ...


You sound arrogant and not very law abiding.  Just because you don't agree with a specific law doesn't put you above said law, no matter how many battlefields you allegedly walked.  Combat doesn't mystically give you a higher right of privilege, nor does it automatically give you immunity to prosecution.  If you disagree with the laws?  Feel free to approach the issue to reform the laws.  Until then?  Don't get on a cross.
 
2013-02-07 10:22:46 PM

Amos Quito: I, for one, believe that the LAPD will learn a VALUABLE LESSON from this episode: Don't fire whistle-blowers.


Kill them.


It's like they've never seen <i>Training Day</i>.
 
2013-02-07 10:23:26 PM

Jclark666: Amos Quito: I, for one, believe that the LAPD will learn a VALUABLE LESSON from this episode: Don't fire whistle-blowers.


Kill them.

It's like they've never seen <i>Training Day</i>.



goddammit I hate the new comments box so much
 
2013-02-07 10:23:55 PM

NewportBarGuy: LesserEvil: It looks like they reloaded their pistols several times. Nope, nothing like an assassination squad might do.

I count about 30 holes. That is one full clip from each officer.


This is why we need magazine- capacity restrictions for the police, and other agents of the government.
 
2013-02-07 10:24:18 PM
what a collective bunch of a-holes. . . just like a bunch of cops to form a warped, ego-driven mental concept of what is right and what is wrong, and act violently against outside forces perceived as wrong. This is mental illness manifest en masse. It really sucks if innocents are caught in the crossfire of this massive dick measuring contest of self righteous douchebag cops on power trips!
 
2013-02-07 10:24:27 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: Corn_Fed:  Go Dorner!

From google:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/los-angeles-cops-chris-dorners-manifesto-spe a ks/story?id=18434105" class="l" wrc_done="true" style="color: rgb(17, 34, 204); cursor: pointer;">Los Angeles Cops Say  Chris Dorner's Manifesto 'Speaks for Itself  ...abcnews.go.com ›http://abcnews.go.com/US/los-angeles-cops-chris-dorners-manifesto-spe a ks/story?id=18434105" data-title="Los Angeles Cops Say Chris Dorner's Manifesto 'Speaks for Itself ..." data-desc="The venomous and rage-filled "manifesto" written by former cop Christopher Dorner before he went on an alleged cop killing spree around the ..." data-sli="srsl_3" data-ci="srslc_3" data-vli="srslcl_3" id="srsl_3" data-slg="webres" jsaction="srl.s" role="button" tabindex="0" style="cursor: pointer; margin-left: 5px; text-decoration: inherit; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">Share12 mins ago -The venomous and rage-filled "manifesto" written by former cop  Christopher Dorner before he went on an alleged cop killing spree

Did his manifesto seem venomous and rage-filled to you?


No.

/Thank god for the internet
 
2013-02-07 10:24:29 PM

beta_plus: Begoggle: do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Most Farkers would happily kill the children of their enemies if they could do so with impunity.  They are not a group of well adjusted people.


WHOA, not so fast there... i'm sure you meant "We are not a group of well adjusted people".

Unless your mental illness has progressed to full blown schitz, that is...
 
2013-02-07 10:24:41 PM

JohnnyApocalypse: He shot this girl


I would have shot that girl, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
 
2013-02-07 10:24:50 PM

InitialCommentGuy: Really?  Lots of paperboys who decide, when they are flagged down, to attempt to full speed out of the area?


Hope I'm never in that situation but, if I know I've done nothing wrong except maybe drive without headlights, and someone starts shooting at me, I suspect I'll floor it and get the eff out of there.  Isn't that what they teach bodyguard driverss?  Extricate yourself from the situation, then think?

I can't believe the news media hasn't picked up on the 2 trucks LAPD have shot.  There was 1 sentence about it in whatever I'm watching now (oh, I have the technology.  ABC World News), but during the 20 minute segment on this during the local news broadcast nary a word.

/ pretty happy at the moment I'm white
 
2013-02-07 10:25:32 PM
JungleBoogie: Dolan Dorner has written his suicide message, so it's not going to end well.

FTFM
 
2013-02-07 10:26:14 PM

thisisarepeat: That makes them my enemy, and enemies deserve only death. I will not give them death, I have sacrificed enough.


Ha ha.  You have done nothing.  You've talked like a big man online because you're overcompensating for whatever shiatpile of loserdom you farking subsist in in meatspace.

You're not awesome, you're not badass, you're not persecuted and you're not scary.  Knock it the fark off.
 
2013-02-07 10:26:41 PM

Delawheredad: If he were a white tea-bagger you Farkers would ALL be  itching to put the final bullet into the guy, This thread is really sickening.


Look, a**hole, he's killing cops.

You know, the friendly Andy Griffith with the badge guys who keep the bad bad people away from you? Three strikes laws, tough on criminals, more prisons and all that dandy Truth Justice and the American Way stuff? Cops?? You know?? Cops?? Bad boys bad boys, whatcha gonna do?

Wasn't YOUR side of the aisle cheering on the so called Second Amendment solutions and screaming for a revolution against the oppressive gubmint and death panels awhile back?

Well here we are with a former Navy/LAPD guy with his head stuck on RAAAAGE, who's playing for keeps in real life, just as you wanted, and all of a sudden you really really don't want your Red Dawn Super Adventure Party and are instead desperately clutching your Sparkly Crying Eagle Vomit Bag.

You people are a laugh riot.
 
2013-02-07 10:27:09 PM

noheadphones: Zoth: Strange to find myself rooting for a cop. Hmm.... ex-cop, that is.

Yeah it was awesome when he killed those 2 innocent non-cops.


So what does that make the LAPD for gunning down people who don't look anything like him in vehicles which don't look anything like his?  Dude had a mental breakdown at some point.

LAPD has no excuse.

/I don't think he should take out family members
//Everybody else on the list can take care of themselves if they're that dirty
///Leave the family out of it, though
 
2013-02-07 10:27:29 PM

Snotnose: Hope I'm never in that situation but, if I know I've done nothing wrong except maybe drive without headlights, and someone starts shooting at me, I suspect I'll floor it and get the eff out of there.  Isn't that what they teach bodyguard driverss?  Extricate yourself from the situation, then think?

I can't believe the news media hasn't picked up on the 2 trucks LAPD have shot.  There was 1 sentence about it in whatever I'm watching now (oh, I have the technology.  ABC World News), but during the 20 minute segment on this during the local news broadcast nary a word.

/ pretty happy at the moment I'm white


If you pulled over when they scream police, brandish weapons and ID, and have uniforms following behind you won't have to worry about an attempt to stop you...

Is it really that difficult to understand the basics anymore?
 
2013-02-07 10:28:50 PM

Corn_Fed: Kumana Wanalaia: Corn_Fed:  Go Dorner!

Did his manifesto seem venomous and rage-filled to you?


Yeah, I read it and had a very different reaction.  The guy seems to be level-headed, if obviously very pissed at this point.

The fact that, after five years of trying to whistle-blow within the system, and going through the proper channels, and NONE of us had ever heard of this last week, tells me that it was useless to try to try that avenue anymore.

His life and reputation was ruined, and was out of other options. I wish he hadn't targeted the daughter of his opponent--he lost his moral credibility on that. But if he'd stayed true strictly to those who were corrupting the system, he'd be deserving of a statue.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ that needs to be addressed.

It won't.  It'll get buried, just like a real discussion of his note is going to get buried under tabloidism and misrepresentation.
 
2013-02-07 10:29:55 PM

Snotnose: I can't believe the news media hasn't picked up on the 2 trucks LAPD have shot. There was 1 sentence about it in whatever I'm watching now (oh, I have the technology. ABC World News), but during the 20 minute segment on this during the local news broadcast nary a word.

/ pretty happy at the moment I'm white


I would not want to be anyone driving a pickup truck within 50 miles of LA at the moment, white or black. Any police involved shooting is going to be defended by 'I was in fear for my life ... because Dorner...' - right or wrong, that's how it's going to be spun.
 
2013-02-07 10:29:56 PM
Kittypie070:
Wasn't YOUR side of the aisle cheering on the so called Second Amendment solutions and screaming for a revolution against the oppressive gubmint and death panels awhile back?

Yes, yes they were. But what they meant was when happens to  foreigners liberals black people conservatives someone other than me.
 
2013-02-07 10:30:40 PM

thisisarepeat: I would love for your first point to be true. I'm moving so that it might. The fact of the matter is cops are bullies, they SEARCH for a reason to do you harm, god help you if you tell them that you will NOT comply with their commands because they have not served in combat, they have never known the fear and dread that comes with sharing a battlespace with a determined enemy, they have not soiled the sand with their blood and they know nothing of sacrifice in the name of this nation. I have, and I will again. All those assholes ever had to do was leave me alone. I bother no one, so they have no duty to protect anyone from me. They choose to harass me because I told them that they deserve no authority over me and I will not acknowledge it. THAT is why they bother me. I don't respect their AUTHORITI! as cartman would put it. You dont know me, so you dont give two shiats about me or my family, and neither do the pigs in your community. Here in my small texas town, i'm Pablo Escabar because weed makes my PTSD survivable longer. The pigs farking hate that I won't quit and that I will tell them and any judge the same. They can do nothing to me that hasnt been visited upon me already in a vastly more severe form, and that sticks in their fake badass craw so terribly that they hang around my house harassing visitors. That makes them my enemy, and enemies deserve only death. I will not give them death, I have sacrificed enough. They could just leave me alone, but they can not, for I have challenged their authority over what I consume personally. DIAF.


Stoner Rambo, the less gritty reboot? I think you have a blockbuster on your hands.
 
2013-02-07 10:30:46 PM
i46.tinypic.com

i50.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-07 10:31:02 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Corn_Fed: Kumana Wanalaia: Corn_Fed:  Go Dorner!

Did his manifesto seem venomous and rage-filled to you?


Yeah, I read it and had a very different reaction.  The guy seems to be level-headed, if obviously very pissed at this point.

The fact that, after five years of trying to whistle-blow within the system, and going through the proper channels, and NONE of us had ever heard of this last week, tells me that it was useless to try to try that avenue anymore.

His life and reputation was ruined, and was out of other options. I wish he hadn't targeted the daughter of his opponent--he lost his moral credibility on that. But if he'd stayed true strictly to those who were corrupting the system, he'd be deserving of a statue.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ that needs to be addressed.

It won't.  It'll get buried, just like a real discussion of his note is going to get buried under tabloidism and misrepresentation.


So if I don't get my way after five years I should take the most extreme path possible?

Well, Emma Stone hasn't called back after my offer... Best fire up the van and get my chloroform.
 
2013-02-07 10:31:26 PM

ZeroCorpse: From the way he's talking, I think it would be easy to find him. Just look for the heavily-armed Black guy wearing this on his chest:


The Punisher doesn't kill cops or the children of those who wronged him.
 
2013-02-07 10:31:58 PM

you are a puppet: Jennifer Beals, Serena Williams, Grae Drake, Lisa Nicole-Carson, Diana Taurasi, N'bushe Wright, Brenda Villa, Kate Winslet, Ashley Graham, Erika Christensen, Gabrielle Union, Isabella Soprano, Zain Verjee, Tamron Hall, Gina Carano, America Ferrara, Giana Michaels, Nene, Natalie Portman, Queen Latifah, Michelle Rodriguez, Anjelah Johnson, Kelly Clarkson, Nora Jones, Laura Prepon, Margaret Cho, and Rutina Wesley, you are THE MOST beautiful women on this planet, period. Never settle, professionally or personally.

rofl this guys giving shout outs to porn stars


He loves his Black women, his curvy women, his fit and muscular women, and his free-spirited women. Asian or Latin, Redhead or Jew, he loves em all.
 
2013-02-07 10:32:12 PM

fredklein: Greywar: Are most cops good. Yup.

Then why don't they arrest the bad ones??


How are you going to get good intel without some dirt swapping?
 
2013-02-07 10:32:18 PM

LincolnLogolas: thisisarepeat: occamswrist: Pincy: Wow, the guy is all over the place.  Can he pick a few talking points and stick to them please.

I like how he supports an assault weapons ban but then promises to run around killing people with all of his firearms.

Thats why there is no looser here.  Cop? check, piece of shiat that thinks only HE should be able to carry a firearm? check

The only reason I don't want him dead right now is that he's killing cops/cops families.  No, cop families don't necessarily deserve to die for the sins of their cop, but cops certainly target the loved ones of their suspects.  Bottom line, it sucks that its gone this far, but you cant vilify a man for using the same tactics against cops families that cops would use against yours if you dont kiss their ass.

Uh... yes you can. Specifically targeting and murdering innocent people due to a gripe you've got with one of their fathers isn't acceptable unless you're in the mafia.


We are talking about humans here, how do things escalate?
 
2013-02-07 10:32:46 PM

LookForTheArrow: Kittypie070:
Wasn't YOUR side of the aisle cheering on the so called Second Amendment solutions and screaming for a revolution against the oppressive gubmint and death panels awhile back?

Yes, yes they were. But what they meant was when happens to  foreigners liberals black people conservatives someone other than me.


So much straw blowing around.

I am embarrassed to be a liberal after seeing how far the ideology has fallen into snapping cattiness and idiocy.
 
2013-02-07 10:32:53 PM

NewportBarGuy: LesserEvil: It looks like they reloaded their pistols several times. Nope, nothing like an assassination squad might do.

I count about 30 holes. That is one full clip from each officer.

Try again?


So... three officers, and NONE  OF THEM could see that the TOYOTA TACOMA was BRIGHT BLUE, not a Dark Grey Nissan Titan with a light package? All three of them exercised poor judgment and shot up the vehicle and its occupants for delivering newspapers in the early morning hours?

Was one on a ride-along?

I've seen LAPD handle a "hostile vehicle" situation.... PROCEDURE involves a spotlight (or 10)  on said vehicle, and plenty of backup.

Fine police work, Lou.

I am no cop hater. Dorner is a murderer who is clearly off the deep end, but the LAPD is no better, it seems. I'm glad our local police aren't like that.
 
2013-02-07 10:33:31 PM
Just read a story that they're doing door to door searches in Big Bear, SWAT teams combing the woods, and urging residents to stay indoors. Given that the car was first reported at 8:30 this morning it seems unlikely that he is still hanging around there. I suppose the police have no choice but to make sure but if his goal is to fark with the heads of law enforcement he's doing a fine job. He could just hole up in some little shiat hotel somewhere for a couple days then pop up again and start this all over again.
I said this in an earlier thread, that gigantic pumpkin sized head of his is going to make it difficult for him to blend in anywhere, he pretty much needs to hide out during the day and do his mischief at night.
 
2013-02-07 10:33:42 PM

orclover: Cops swearing "To protect and serve" is as much of a joke pledge as "do no harm" is for doctors.   Any person taking either cops or doctors seriously on anything hasn't seen the world through an honest eye.


You owe me a new homeopathic keyboard
 
2013-02-07 10:34:02 PM

InitialCommentGuy: The police are operating well within the guidelines established by DHS for active shooter scenarios. Of course these are totally innocent people who ran when told to stop by police officers, and who didn't deserve anything but kid gloves when they proceeded to hightail it out of the location...


my Trolly Sense is tingling!
 
2013-02-07 10:34:13 PM
He made a lot of good points. Unfortunately his message will be marginalized because of this rampage.
 
2013-02-07 10:34:24 PM

InitialCommentGuy: AndreMA: Because carjackers are unable to yell "Stop! Police!"

Lots of carjacking rings operating in six man teams, well dressed, and carrying police badges in your neighborhood?


It was nighttime and the truck supposedly had its lights off. I'm sure that their number, attire and jewelry were plainly visible under those conditions.
 
2013-02-07 10:35:39 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: my Trolly Sense is tingling!


Must be a troll for not agreeing with you.

Nope.  Just glad that after repeatedly being told to stop then attempting to evade capture they were dealt with.
 
2013-02-07 10:35:47 PM

BSABSVR: thisisarepeat: That makes them my enemy, and enemies deserve only death. I will not give them death, I have sacrificed enough.

Ha ha.  You have done nothing.  You've talked like a big man online because you're overcompensating for whatever shiatpile of loserdom you farking subsist in in meatspace.

You're not awesome, you're not badass, you're not persecuted and you're not scary.  Knock it the fark off.


I never claimed to be awesome.  But I am certain that I have contributed more to this country and taken less from it than you.   I can say that because odds are, you have nothing on me.
 
2013-02-07 10:36:02 PM

AndreMA: InitialCommentGuy: AndreMA: Because carjackers are unable to yell "Stop! Police!"

Lots of carjacking rings operating in six man teams, well dressed, and carrying police badges in your neighborhood?

It was nighttime and the truck supposedly had its lights off. I'm sure that their number, attire and jewelry were plainly visible under those conditions.


he has no idea how anything works in reality.  It's impressive in a way.
 
2013-02-07 10:36:11 PM
What in the tittay farking hell kinda name is N'bushe??

......never mind, I think I answered my own question.
 
2013-02-07 10:36:49 PM
Hero of Liberals:

cdn.abclocal.go.com

Hero of Conservatives:

2.bp.blogspot.com

/may you live in interesting times
 
2013-02-07 10:36:49 PM
i50.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-07 10:37:10 PM
LAPD vs LAPD?


I really hope no one "innocent" gets hurt here... but at the same time I have to admit part of me thinks this couldn't happen to a nicer group of corrupt scum.

Until good cops start letting the sunlight in and exposing the corrupt ranks for what they are, you will continue to have the status quo: complete lack of respect for the law and it's enforcers and an organization who's injustices propagate further injustice.

What the fark do people expect? We know them to be in large numbers nothing more than the largest street gang in the nation. We do and historically have turned a blind eye to much considering it the better of two evils.... but what do you do when that balance seems skewed? When the lesser evil you embraced becomes the greater?

No easy answers. And it's not just the police, all of this is mearly symptomatic of greater societal and governmental problems that continue unaddressed.

What do you do if you are a principled person that tries to open those curtains and expose injustice, only to have that system you faithfully serve turn on you? Well whatever you feel you have to I suppose, which is where this guy is.
And remember, this is one man doing the unthinkable that thousands of other victims of the system have dreamed of doing. In perspective, this story isn't even shocking. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often.

With our current power structure our only hope of fixing our police ails from inside the system lies with the FBI, but as they can't seem to keep a budget and their manpower is spent everywhere but oversight of law enforcement it seems we have nowhere to turn to expect results.

I can't myself morally condone these "2nd amendment solutions"
At the same time, they aren't at all surprising for me to see. We reap what we sow in this world.
 
2013-02-07 10:38:15 PM

InitialCommentGuy: LookForTheArrow: Kittypie070:
Wasn't YOUR side of the aisle cheering on the so called Second Amendment solutions and screaming for a revolution against the oppressive gubmint and death panels awhile back?

Yes, yes they were. But what they meant was when happens to  foreigners liberals black people conservatives someone other than me.

So much straw blowing around.

I am embarrassed to be a liberal after seeing how far the ideology has fallen into snapping cattiness and idiocy.


but you're not a liberal. You're a plant -- and by that, i mean something like a rutabaga.

/feel better?
 
2013-02-07 10:38:15 PM

AndreMA: InitialCommentGuy: AndreMA: Because carjackers are unable to yell "Stop! Police!"

Lots of carjacking rings operating in six man teams, well dressed, and carrying police badges in your neighborhood?

It was nighttime and the truck supposedly had its lights off. I'm sure that their number, attire and jewelry were plainly visible under those conditions.


But the color and exact type of the vehicle was discernible?

Can't have it both ways.
 
2013-02-07 10:38:30 PM

JohnnyApocalypse: Sadly, this post will be swept away in the sea of derp, but...

There's a line. That line is taking a human life. For those who think, "Good for him, killing LAPD, because those guys have killed so many innocents already..."

Do you think the same when a vigilante kills an abortion doctor? Do you think the same when, say, a mother guns down a man who killed her child due to negligence? Where's the line for you, acceptable and unacceptable murder? You decry things like "it's OK when our side does it, since your side does it too", but this is the same thing.

NOTE: I am not saying whether or not this guy's complaints are valid. I'm sure there are dirty cops. He may have not gotten a fair shake. But what makes you think, OK. Now I'm just gonna murder people? What made that OK?

He shot this girl

[media.sacbee.com image 341x512]


Nothing made it okay, and I don't see anyone saying it's okay to kill innocents.

At the same time, the cops are dirty and they're trying to shut him up... so what other innocents have no voice which he tried to speak for and was shut down?  Two wrongs don't make a right, but the LAPD is not innocent, and it was be an awful shame if the LAPD got a slap on the wrist for their own slaughter of innocents just because those innocents aren't connected to a cop.  You know what I mean?
 
2013-02-07 10:38:37 PM

ShawnDoc: ZeroCorpse: From the way he's talking, I think it would be easy to find him. Just look for the heavily-armed Black guy wearing this on his chest:

The Punisher doesn't kill cops or the children of those who wronged him.



Unless they're dirty.
 
2013-02-07 10:40:05 PM

LookForTheArrow: InitialCommentGuy: LookForTheArrow: Kittypie070:
Wasn't YOUR side of the aisle cheering on the so called Second Amendment solutions and screaming for a revolution against the oppressive gubmint and death panels awhile back?

Yes, yes they were. But what they meant was when happens to  foreigners liberals black people conservatives someone other than me.

So much straw blowing around.

I am embarrassed to be a liberal after seeing how far the ideology has fallen into snapping cattiness and idiocy.

but you're not a liberal. You're a plant -- and by that, i mean something like a rutabaga.

/feel better?


Yes.  Believing in the rule of law and that killing cops isn't an acceptable method of discourse changes my political affiliation.

Are you always so diametrically opposed to logic?
 
2013-02-07 10:40:16 PM

Bontesla: BarkingUnicorn: Agarista: I cannot condone murder.  Murder for revenge over a career lost is disgusting.
Some tiny tiny part of me keeps trying to root for this guy, though.

Like I said two threads down, Dorner must have though, "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" ...at least in terms of tactics.

I cannot defend his actions, nor the actions of the police who shot at random trucks.
The best end is to have him stand trial before all he has harmed and accused, so they may testify as well. It does seem like the police are not willing to let that happen, and are willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties to prevent it from happening.  Let's hope my presumption turns out to be incorrect.

Dorne's gonna die in a hail of bullets.  He's gonna die because he wants to die, and the cops are happy to oblige him.

The cops didn't shoot at a "random" vehicle.  They shot at a vehicle that matched a description of the suspect's, approaching them slowly with headlights off at 5:00 a.m., after something was thrown out of its window.  They aren't "willing to sacrifice more unrelated parties."  They're scared shiatless and trigger-happy.  I would be the same in their position.

The only thing that really matched was the type of vehicle (ie. truck).
And if we allow them to shoot at all vehicles that drive "suspiciously" while being a truck - we're going to end up with a lot more victims. We should have higher expectations for the people we hire to protect our society.


I think you're being trolled, because this dumbass is ignoring the fact that these two women were driving away from two armed men who weren't in police uniform, that's standard practice in any major city and any plainclothes cop should realize they are suspect, even when holding up some shiny piece of metal.
 
2013-02-07 10:40:39 PM

supershaft: Just read a story that they're doing door to door searches in Big Bear, SWAT teams combing the woods, and urging residents to stay indoors. Given that the car was first reported at 8:30 this morning it seems unlikely that he is still hanging around there. I suppose the police have no choice but to make sure but if his goal is to fark with the heads of law enforcement he's doing a fine job. He could just hole up in some little shiat hotel somewhere for a couple days then pop up again and start this all over again.
I said this in an earlier thread, that gigantic pumpkin sized head of his is going to make it difficult for him to blend in anywhere, he pretty much needs to hide out during the day and do his mischief at night.


Well, this is the LAPD we are talking about. I doubt they can really tell the difference between a 6ft, 270lb pumpkin headed black man and Huggy Bear, but as others have said, he looks like LL Cool J (he must be nervous right now), and to be honest, it's a very common look.

Hell.... they can't even figure out the difference between bright blue and dark grey, or between Nissans, Hondas or Toyotas...I bet the next vehicle they shoot up is a white Lexus driven by a 5'4" 120lb Hispanic dude.
 
2013-02-07 10:42:02 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Nothing made it okay, and I don't see anyone saying it's okay to kill innocents.

At the same time, the cops are dirty and they're trying to shut him up... so what other innocents have no voice which he tried to speak for and was shut down?  Two wrongs don't make a right, but the LAPD is not innocent, and it was be an awful shame if the LAPD got a slap on the wrist for their own slaughter of innocents just because those innocents aren't connected to a cop.  You know what I mean?


Yep.  Using force to drop an armed and extremely dangerous killer is an attempt to silence them.  We should forgive the man his silly trespasses because he is truly acting in the interest of justice.
 
2013-02-07 10:42:27 PM

Kittypie070: Delawheredad: If he were a white tea-bagger you Farkers would ALL be  itching to put the final bullet into the guy, This thread is really sickening.

Wasn't YOUR side of the aisle cheering on the so called Second Amendment solutions and screaming for a revolution against the oppressive gubmint and death panels awhile back?


Let's recapitulate the argument so far... Delawheredad claims that Farkers are hypocrites because normally they are quick to identify violent shooters as being "teabaggers" or some other kind of right- winger that they hate. You, in reply, are accusing  Delawheredad of being the sort of anti- government type who would cheer the murder of policemen. This isn't really any kind of an answer because 1) the original point Delawheredad was making is correct -- almost every shooting is initially identified on Fark as being the fault of conservatives and 2) you have no way of knowing whether or not Delawheredad is the kind of conservative who is sufficiently opposed to the excesses of the US government that he would consider violence as an alternative; you don't even know if he has any objection to the general nature of the US government at all. (Many conservatives still cling to the idea that authorities are naturally to be deferred to under most or all circumstances).

In short, if you live in an ideological echo- chamber you will have no idea that real- life conservatives may be more complex than the caricatures of them you have constructed in your mind.
 
2013-02-07 10:42:38 PM

thisisarepeat: But I am certain that I have contributed more to this country and taken less from it than you. I can say that because odds are, you have nothing on me.


Ha ha.  You are nothing, you faux persecuted farking tool.  Any minor bit  that you gave  is overshadowed by your sad complex that you hold on to in order to own some semblance of importance.  You're a pathetic goddamn oxygen drain. Go a shootin', go cry yourself to sleep  or go fark off.
 
2013-02-07 10:42:50 PM

LookForTheArrow: beta_plus: Begoggle: do know that a gun rampage and threats to kill other people and their families has a way of undermining everything he said about his moral compass.

Most Farkers would happily kill the children of their enemies if they could do so with impunity.  They are not a group of well adjusted people.

WHOA, not so fast there... i'm sure you meant "We are not a group of well adjusted people".

Unless your mental illness has progressed to full blown schitz, that is...


I'm arguably one of the most hated members of this site, and have the time outs to prove it.  Suddenly you want to include me?

/unlike my enemies, I can still distinguish between fantasy and reality
 
2013-02-07 10:43:45 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Jackson Herring: Seriously, literally delete the entire main page. fark this piece of shiat thread.

versus what?  figuratively delete it?

what a surprise to find cop haters on fark - some who want to root for this out of control liberal killer with a gun.

pathetic.


TEABAGGER! We've got a TEABAGGER he-ya!
 
2013-02-07 10:43:57 PM

InitialCommentGuy: LookForTheArrow: InitialCommentGuy: LookForTheArrow: Kittypie070:
Are you always so diametrically opposed to logic?


1967 NRA establishes a gun ban in response to uppity black folk with guns. Now they want them when Obama's in the Black House. Not getting a rise outta me this thread, Jack.
 
2013-02-07 10:44:09 PM

InitialCommentGuy: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Corn_Fed: Kumana Wanalaia: Corn_Fed:  Go Dorner!

Did his manifesto seem venomous and rage-filled to you?


Yeah, I read it and had a very different reaction.  The guy seems to be level-headed, if obviously very pissed at this point.

The fact that, after five years of trying to whistle-blow within the system, and going through the proper channels, and NONE of us had ever heard of this last week, tells me that it was useless to try to try that avenue anymore.

His life and reputation was ruined, and was out of other options. I wish he hadn't targeted the daughter of his opponent--he lost his moral credibility on that. But if he'd stayed true strictly to those who were corrupting the system, he'd be deserving of a statue.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ that needs to be addressed.

It won't.  It'll get buried, just like a real discussion of his note is going to get buried under tabloidism and misrepresentation.

So if I don't get my way after five years I should take the most extreme path possible?

Well, Emma Stone hasn't called back after my offer... Best fire up the van and get my chloroform.


What path should he take?  When all else fails, what are more constructive ways to fight evil and corruption when your name is ruined by the very system which is supposed to represent justice?  You're right, shooting folks ain't the way.

But neither is giving up and giving in and letting go.  There has to be a constructive way to fight and be heard.  But maybe there isn't. Maybe he's doing his squeaky wheel thing.

Five years is a long time to suffer in silence while evil prospers.  You know what I mean?

No one wins :(
 
2013-02-07 10:46:50 PM

Kittypie070: Delawheredad: If he were a white tea-bagger you Farkers would ALL be  itching to put the final bullet into the guy, This thread is really sickening.

Look, a**hole, he's killing cops.

You know, the friendly Andy Griffith with the badge guys who keep the bad bad people away from you? Three strikes laws, tough on criminals, more prisons and all that dandy Truth Justice and the American Way stuff? Cops?? You know?? Cops?? Bad boys bad boys, whatcha gonna do?

Wasn't YOUR side of the aisle cheering on the so called Second Amendment solutions and screaming for a revolution against the oppressive gubmint and death panels awhile back?

Well here we are with a former Navy/LAPD guy with his head stuck on RAAAAGE, who's playing for keeps in real life, just as you wanted, and all of a sudden you really really don't want your Red Dawn Super Adventure Party and are instead desperately clutching your Sparkly Crying Eagle Vomit Bag.

You people are a laugh riot.


You do remember this is Fark.com, right?
 
2013-02-07 10:46:51 PM

MurphyMurphy: I really hope no one "innocent" gets hurt here...


I see his first two victims were complete innocents.

I now no longer care what his mission or message is. Whatever injustice he was battling, he has become the greater evil.

Do what you will in this world, but leave the bystanders and unaffiliated out of it.
 
2013-02-07 10:47:22 PM

LesserEvil: All three of them exercised poor judgment


Not being there, and not having any f*cking clue what happened aside from supposition, I'd just choose to hear what the board finds in their after action report. If it's unjustified, fire them and put them on trial.

Once that first round goes off, you and the people next to you just unload. That may not be procedure, but it's instinctive and if they were trained in the military, that is the first thing they learned. Shoot until you see nothing moving.

I'm not making any excuses for anyone. I'm just trying to be realistic.
 
2013-02-07 10:47:24 PM
Los Angeles is a big city.  People get murdered here pretty much every single day.  None of those murders have ever drawn our the resources that we're seeing today.  Hey, LAPD, if you wouldn't put out extra effort if some poor schmuck like me gets murdered in the street, then why should I give two licks if one of your own gets killed?

This whole thing stinks mightily of corruption & revenge.  I know he's going down, probably within the next twenty four hours,  but I honestly wouldn't mind if he takes out a few more cops on the way.
 
2013-02-07 10:47:26 PM

JungleBoogie: Being a cop,

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verything you say is now irrelevant.  You are part of the problem, you are a danger to all of us.  Frankly you scare the shiat out of me.   Everything you say now after that line is either propaganda or a simple reflection of what has been beaten into your head in the system that has absorbed you.  Your not even a person any more, your just a appendage to a machine that eats what it wants and poops out misery.  The only real question is are you aware of it and dont care or are you like most who believe that everything the machine does is for the best of the citizens?

But.....Please dont hunt me down and kill my family just because I believe that you belong to a corrupt system running rampant and farking over civilians though.  I would really appreciate it.  Please?

/dont taze me bro!
or shoot me, or make up charges, or threaten to kill me and plant evidence because your kid hurt his hand beating up my son and knocking out my sons tooth...strangely oddly specific that last one dont ya think so?
 
2013-02-07 10:47:28 PM
Life is entertaining when you are hanging out in this thread and watching Dredd (film 2012) at the same time.
 
2013-02-07 10:47:32 PM

BSABSVR: thisisarepeat: But I am certain that I have contributed more to this country and taken less from it than you. I can say that because odds are, you have nothing on me.

Ha ha.  You are nothing, you faux persecuted farking tool.  Any minor bit  that you gave  is overshadowed by your sad complex that you hold on to in order to own some semblance of importance.  You're a pathetic goddamn oxygen drain. Go a shootin', go cry yourself to sleep  or go fark off.


What HAVE you done in your life that that would qualify you as otherwise?
 
2013-02-07 10:47:37 PM

LesserEvil: I bet the next vehicle they shoot up is a white Lexus driven by a 5'4" 120lb Hispanic dude.


NHP is looking for a White 2005 Lexus with NV plate 534SUV (maybe 543SUV-forgot) in connection with this.  I don't know if NHP is as trigger happy as the LAPD, but I'd be scared if I was driving a Lexus of any color with Metro or Henderson PD nearby.
 
2013-02-07 10:49:12 PM

MurphyMurphy: MurphyMurphy: I really hope no one "innocent" gets hurt here...

I see his first two victims were complete innocents.

I now no longer care what his mission or message is. Whatever injustice he was battling, he has become the greater evil.

Do what you will in this world, but leave the bystanders and unaffiliated out of it.


For a Murphy, you don't know much about war.
 
2013-02-07 10:49:53 PM

LookForTheArrow: InitialCommentGuy: LookForTheArrow: InitialCommentGuy: LookForTheArrow: Kittypie070:
Are you always so diametrically opposed to logic?

1967 NRA establishes a gun ban in response to uppity black folk with guns. Now they want them when Obama's in the Black House. Not getting a rise outta me this thread, Jack.


You mean the Mulford Act?  Yep, we should have allowed continued carrying of firearms into situations where officers would be surrounded by armed members of radical groups.  We should also allow said radical groups to storm the State Capital and break into legislative sessions with firearms.

Now let us give the Tea Party the right to do the same.  Or allow anti-abortion advocates to carry firearms and carry them in open view while screaming hateful slogans.  No problem having an Eric Rudolph bullrush the Senate with a couple handguns right?

Mulford was passed due to racial tensions, but we reap the dividends of the Act's passage every day.  And bringing up the actions of a breed of politicians who are, for the most part, dead now is definitely a brilliant piece of historical twisting.

Again, sad to be a liberal when all available progressive options are filled with people who think like you.
 
2013-02-07 10:50:32 PM

InitialCommentGuy: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Nothing made it okay, and I don't see anyone saying it's okay to kill innocents.

At the same time, the cops are dirty and they're trying to shut him up... so what other innocents have no voice which he tried to speak for and was shut down?  Two wrongs don't make a right, but the LAPD is not innocent, and it was be an awful shame if the LAPD got a slap on the wrist for their own slaughter of innocents just because those innocents aren't connected to a cop.  You know what I mean?

Yep.  Using force to drop an armed and extremely dangerous killer is an attempt to silence them.  We should forgive the man his silly trespasses because he is truly acting in the interest of justice.


He's acting in the interests of horror, sorrow and desperation.  The most dangerous person is the person who just doesn't give a fk anymore, the person who has no hope and says 'fk it'.  Well, Mr, Dorner has said 'fk it'.

And instead of being the bright lights in all this, the LAPD -- as so many before  me have commented -- is doing everything in their power to prove him right. Everybody involved in that sorry ass security detail which shot at those two women delivery papers should be hung out to dry and never be employed as a cop again.  How fked up is it that it's easier to lose one's job doing the right thing (whistle-blowing), than it is to lose one's job for nearly killing two innocent women (shooting first, questions later)?

Something's wrong, and to focus solely on Dorner as that wrong ensures that justice will never be served.
 
2013-02-07 10:51:16 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: What path should he take?  When all else fails, what are more constructive ways to fight evil and corruption when your name is ruined by the very system which is supposed to represent justice?  You're right, shooting folks ain't the way.

But neither is giving up and giving in and letting go.  There has to be a constructive way to fight and be heard.  But maybe there isn't. Maybe he's doing his squeaky wheel thing.

Five years is a long time to suffer in silence while evil prospers.  You know what I mean?

No one wins :(


What specifically has he actually done during this time other than writing a pile of drivel which will go down as his manifesto?  How did he attempt to fight corruption?
 
2013-02-07 10:53:13 PM

InitialCommentGuy: ExperianScaresCthulhu: What path should he take?  When all else fails, what are more constructive ways to fight evil and corruption when your name is ruined by the very system which is supposed to represent justice?  You're right, shooting folks ain't the way.

But neither is giving up and giving in and letting go.  There has to be a constructive way to fight and be heard.  But maybe there isn't. Maybe he's doing his squeaky wheel thing.

Five years is a long time to suffer in silence while evil prospers.  You know what I mean?

No one wins :(

What specifically has he actually done during this time other than writing a pile of drivel which will go down as his manifesto?  How did he attempt to fight corruption?


he was terminated for turning in superior officers
 
2013-02-07 10:53:15 PM

InitialCommentGuy: AndreMA: InitialCommentGuy: AndreMA: Because carjackers are unable to yell "Stop! Police!"

Lots of carjacking rings operating in six man teams, well dressed, and carrying police badges in your neighborhood?

It was nighttime and the truck supposedly had its lights off. I'm sure that their number, attire and jewelry were plainly visible under those conditions.

But the color and exact type of the vehicle was discernible?

Can't have it both ways.


I never said anything about the vehicle type mismatch.
 
2013-02-07 10:54:16 PM

NewportBarGuy: LesserEvil: All three of them exercised poor judgment

Not being there, and not having any f*cking clue what happened aside from supposition, I'd just choose to hear what the board finds in their after action report. If it's unjustified, fire them and put them on trial.

Once that first round goes off, you and the people next to you just unload. That may not be procedure, but it's instinctive and if they were trained in the military, that is the first thing they learned. Shoot until you see nothing moving.

I'm not making any excuses for anyone. I'm just trying to be realistic.


There are procedures. They did not positively identify the vehicle, and they fired on it. Negligent in the best of light, criminally negligent without much effort.

They also found his vehicle this morning:
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...yet they still have an alert out. Worse, they don't even know what his license plate number is (I guess they don't have access to DMV records, more of the excellent police work)

These guys are incompetent at best. Evil at worst.

Also, I have no idea where Farkers are getting info on the newspaper deliver girl shootings, but I can't find any reference on how many officers were involved. For all we know, it was a lone officer (who reloaded 3 times).

If you have more info, please share the link... I haven't seen a single word on the victims of those shootings (and they were victims of the LAPD).
 
2013-02-07 10:54:56 PM