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(610 WIOD)   Here's how the Alabama hostage standoff and rescue of 5 yr old went down   (610wiod.com) divider line 77
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2013-02-07 03:53:23 PM

Endive Wombat: What about fiber optic cameras?  Supposedly this thing was built out of little more than 2x4's and plywood, so poking a tiny hole through the wood would not be hard


I think this is far more likely as a radio camera might have trouble getting a signal out. We will probably never know for sure, and frankly I am OK with that.
 
2013-02-07 03:53:58 PM

Glancing Blow: Dixon Cider: So... just more of the same?
Shame subby... SHAME!!!

Why are we shaming the subby?  How about shame on whoever greenlit this.


Played that game once... would like to stick around a bit longer!!
 
2013-02-07 03:54:19 PM
My guess is the FBI somehow got a camera down inside.  They probably drilled down through the earth next to the bunker real slow so as to not make noise and then found a seam in the buried shipping container to feed the camera into.  I've also heard in other stories that the FBI build a duplicate bunker on their own so that they could better plan entry strategies.  Once they had a camera in place and had studied the layout, and once they felt negotiations were falling apart, they just watched until both the guy and the kid were in the optimum positions for an entry, and then they went for it.
 
2013-02-07 04:09:03 PM
Wow, that explains everything.  I have absolutely zero interest in knowing anything else about this.  Thanks, subby
 
2013-02-07 04:16:32 PM
Excellent headline, subby.  Very witty and well thought out.
 
2013-02-07 04:20:45 PM

positronica: My guess is the FBI somehow got a camera down inside.  They probably drilled down through the earth next to the bunker real slow so as to not make noise and then found a seam in the buried shipping container to feed the camera into.  I've also heard in other stories that the FBI build a duplicate bunker on their own so that they could better plan entry strategies.  Once they had a camera in place and had studied the layout, and once they felt negotiations were falling apart, they just watched until both the guy and the kid were in the optimum positions for an entry, and then they went for it.



I'm wondering if said optimum position would be he was near the entrance and they blew the door in on him to stun, charged in and double-tap.
 
2013-02-07 04:23:28 PM

MindStalker: I just wish they had used a drone. There would be people out there that celebrated that use in this situation, while decrying its use in other countries in similar situations. The cognitive dissidence would be been spectacular.


"And as the standoff stretched into days, drones flew large, lazy circles high above the scene at night. "
Link to a story that includes lots of details about how the FBI handled things.

"Within hours after an armed, angry man shot a school bus driver and kidnapped a 5-year-old boy, workers feverishly unloaded boxes packed with percussive grenades, military C-4 explosives and an array of guns from a windowless DC-9 that had landed just miles from the suspect's isolated compound.
Helmeted officers decked out in tan fatigues, camouflage and body armor, many carrying long guns, rumbled in rented cargo trucks to and from the property in southeastern Alabama where 65-year-old Jimmy Lee Dykes and his young captive were hunkered down in a roughly 6-by-8-foot hand-dug bunker with only one small hatch for an entryway. "
 
2013-02-07 04:28:04 PM

TheDirtyNacho: charged in and double-tap.


I have a feeling you are massively underestimating the number of taps. I bet Gregory Hines has fewer, maybe even Bob Fosse.
 
2013-02-07 04:34:39 PM
Looks like the "republican base" was reduced by 1 that day. Good!

I knew this right wing asspipe was never going to leave that "bunker" alive. From what I hear, his ventilated carcass is still lying where it dropped while the FBI is busy sweeping the area for booby-traps. Poor flies.
 
2013-02-07 04:40:58 PM

FarkingReading: Here's a new detail I didn't know before: The closest thing he had to a friend was the bus driver that he killed. The bus driver delivered a "gift of eggs and jam to Dykes' trailer several days before the incident, as a thank you for Dykes' work shoveling a narrow road so that Poland could make a three-point turn on his bus route."

Also, the two guys argued for quite a while on the bus over whether or not Dykes could take the boy, and then Dykes killed him. I didn't realize it was a drawn-out argument.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57567856/new-details-about-fin a l-moments-on-bus-in-bunker-in-ala-hostage-standoff/">http://www.cbsne ws.com/8301-505263_162-57567856/new-details-about-fina l-moments-on-bus-in-bunker-in-ala-hostage-standoff/


As if we needed any more evidence as to what a HUUUUUGE butthole Dykes was.

/If you give a psycho a cookie, he'll want eggs and jam. If you give a psycho eggs and jam, he'll want two children.
 
2013-02-07 04:42:47 PM
TV's Vinnie:
From what I hear, his ventilated carcass is still lying where it dropped while the FBI is busy sweeping the area for booby-traps. Poor flies.

Meh, he has no friends/loved ones according to CBS, so it's not like they need to keep his body fresh for a funeral.
/although his wounds prolly make an open-casket funeral impossible anyway.
 
2013-02-07 04:44:07 PM
Neighbors had described Dykes as an unstable menace who beat a dog to death and threatened to shoot trespassers while patrolling his property armed.
 
Yet had no trouble acquiring guns.
 
2013-02-07 04:44:59 PM
So no body brought up. Boy is safe. Antigun sentiment increased sharply.

This play acting worked out great. Lucky for the agents, the press furor died down long enough to let them concoct the endgame story without much scrutiny.
 
2013-02-07 04:52:13 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: So no body brought up. Boy is safe. Antigun sentiment increased sharply.

This play acting worked out great. Lucky for the agents, the press furor died down long enough to let them concoct the endgame story without much scrutiny.


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2013-02-07 05:00:09 PM

generallyso: MindStalker: I just wish they had used a drone. There would be people out there that celebrated that use in this situation, while decrying its use in other countries in similar situations. The cognitive dissidence would be been spectacular.

You wish they had fired a missile into a hostage situation? Somehow it doesn't surprise me you don't know the word you wanted is 'dissonance.'


Ha! But Mindstalker was so proud of his big word.
 
2013-02-07 05:13:44 PM

Bartleby the Scrivener: How it went down:

FBI Chief: "This is going on six days and we're in Alabama. Let's shoot this guy in the face and go get some Olive Garden. We'll say he was unravelling."
FBI Guys: YEAH!


The inclusion of Olive Garden just makes this for me.  Thank you.
 
2013-02-07 05:16:17 PM

TV's Vinnie: Looks like the "republican base" was reduced by 1 that day. Good!

I knew this right wing asspipe was never going to leave that "bunker" alive. From what I hear, his ventilated carcass is still lying where it dropped while the FBI is busy sweeping the area for booby-traps. Poor flies.


He voted Democrat. Nice troll.
 
2013-02-07 05:26:05 PM

stevetherobot: MindStalker: I just wish they had used a drone. There would be people out there that celebrated that use in this situation, while decrying its use in other countries in similar situations. The cognitive dissidence would be been spectacular.

"And as the standoff stretched into days, drones flew large, lazy circles high above the scene at night. "
Link to a story that includes lots of details about how the FBI handled things.

"Within hours after an armed, angry man shot a school bus driver and kidnapped a 5-year-old boy, workers feverishly unloaded boxes packed with percussive grenades, military C-4 explosives and an array of guns from a windowless DC-9 that had landed just miles from the suspect's isolated compound.
Helmeted officers decked out in tan fatigues, camouflage and body armor, many carrying long guns, rumbled in rented cargo trucks to and from the property in southeastern Alabama where 65-year-old Jimmy Lee Dykes and his young captive were hunkered down in a roughly 6-by-8-foot hand-dug bunker with only one small hatch for an entryway. "


Great article. Thanks for posting that.
 
2013-02-07 05:28:40 PM

OregonVet: He voted Democrat. Nice troll.


I seriously doubt that. This guy was coo-coo for Glenn Beck Puffs and frequently blasted out Fox News from open windows AT the neighbors.
 
2013-02-07 05:30:10 PM

lilbjorn: Neighbors had described Dykes as an unstable menace who beat a dog to death and threatened to shoot trespassers while patrolling his property armed.
 
Yet had no trouble acquiring guns.


The mentally ill are most likely to want guns. Look at Wayne LaPierre.
 
2013-02-07 05:31:05 PM

OregonVet: TV's Vinnie: Looks like the "republican base" was reduced by 1 that day. Good!

I knew this right wing asspipe was never going to leave that "bunker" alive. From what I hear, his ventilated carcass is still lying where it dropped while the FBI is busy sweeping the area for booby-traps. Poor flies.

He voted Democrat. Nice troll.

 Why is it all you rightwingers just reek of insanity?
 
2013-02-07 06:54:36 PM

OregonVet: TV's Vinnie: Looks like the "republican base" was reduced by 1 that day. Good!

I knew this right wing asspipe was never going to leave that "bunker" alive. From what I hear, his ventilated carcass is still lying where it dropped while the FBI is busy sweeping the area for booby-traps. Poor flies.

He voted Democrat. Nice troll.


*Alabama Democrat = right wing lunatic anywhere else in the country.
 
2013-02-07 07:41:28 PM

GoodyearPimp: Guy in underground bunker using pvc pipe to the surface to communicate?  Drop dynamite in the hole. In other news, I don't get to make those kinds of decisions for a reason.


Detonate the hostage.
 
2013-02-07 07:51:09 PM
He rigged the bunker with explosives, tried to reinforce it against any raid, and when SWAT agents stormed the shelter Monday to rescue the boy, Jimmy Lee Dykes engaged in a firefight that left the captor dead, according to the FBI.

corkonthefork.com
 
2013-02-07 08:01:36 PM

Wyalt Derp: GoodyearPimp: Guy in underground bunker using pvc pipe to the surface to communicate?  Drop dynamite in the hole. In other news, I don't get to make those kinds of decisions for a reason.

Detonate the hostage.


Shoot the glass.
 
2013-02-08 01:37:23 AM
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2013-02-08 12:32:04 PM
Wow, this kind of reporting seems to be catching. Here is a story explaining the reason that power stopped getting relayed to the Super Bowl. It turns out that what happened is that the relay device stopped working.
 
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