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2013-02-07 11:52:43 AM
I can't imagine it would have been easy recording 530 days worth of secret meetigs or any meetigs for that matter.
 
2013-02-07 11:57:12 AM
You do understand that outing an informant involved GIVING THE farkING PERSON'S NAME AWAY?!?!?!?!

No? You didn't? Ok. Outing an informant involves giving the person's name away. Now you know.
 
2013-02-07 12:08:50 PM
He will be sleeping with the fishes soon, Frankie says
 
2013-02-07 12:09:26 PM
Still, it sounds like they gave away some identifying information, like that fact that the informant used to run M&C Waste services. They narrows down the list of people to off quite a bit I'd think.
 
2013-02-07 12:09:29 PM

Mangoose: You do understand that outing an informant involved GIVING THE farkING PERSON'S NAME AWAY?!?!?!?!


No, it means giving out information that can be used to identify the informant. "Sanitation Worker" narrows it down a lot.
 
2013-02-07 12:09:57 PM

Mangoose: You do understand that outing an informant involved GIVING THE farkING PERSON'S NAME AWAY?!?!?!?!

No? You didn't? Ok. Outing an informant involves giving the person's name away. Now you know.


They certainly gave enough information to clearly identify the person.
 
2013-02-07 12:10:00 PM
Elevator shaft, bullets, etc.
 
2013-02-07 12:10:04 PM
meetig?
 
2013-02-07 12:11:33 PM
That stinks.
 
2013-02-07 12:11:34 PM

mllawso: Mangoose: You do understand that outing an informant involved GIVING THE farkING PERSON'S NAME AWAY?!?!?!?!

No, it means giving out information that can be used to identify the informant. "Sanitation Worker" narrows it down a lot.


Saying, "the informant ran M&C Waste Services in Westchester," narrows it down pretty well too.
 
2013-02-07 12:12:35 PM
FTFA: Sources have told The Post that the informant ran M&C Waste Services in Westchester.

Looks like there will be a managerial job opening there soon enough.
 
2013-02-07 12:14:06 PM

Cybernetic: mllawso: Mangoose: You do understand that outing an informant involved GIVING THE farkING PERSON'S NAME AWAY?!?!?!?!

No, it means giving out information that can be used to identify the informant. "Sanitation Worker" narrows it down a lot.

Saying, "the informant ran M&C Waste Services in Westchester," narrows it down pretty well too.


Really, reporter likely cost this guy his life.
 
2013-02-07 12:14:09 PM
Clearly subby doesn't understand the concept of a witness list.  If the case is in court and someone is going to testify for the prosecution, the defense knows it well before the trial.  Darn that pesky Sixth Amendment!
 
2013-02-07 12:14:24 PM
Is anyone else getting annoyed enough at six-day old featured partner posts that they're thinking of giving up on Fark?
 
2013-02-07 12:15:15 PM
Cosa ostra.
 
2013-02-07 12:18:33 PM
It could be that the Mob already knows who the informant is, so no big deal.
 
2013-02-07 12:18:47 PM
The feds say Franco, 77, is known in gangland circles as "Papa Smurf" --

Dey's an order from da boss to smurf someone real smurfy. We's not too sure what we's gotta do though.
 
2013-02-07 12:21:56 PM

waterrockets: Is anyone else getting annoyed enough at six-day old featured partner posts that they're thinking of giving up on Fark?


I plan to continue the same strategy as before, which I call "not clicking links that aren't interesting to me."
 
2013-02-07 12:22:45 PM

2 Hookers and an 8 Ball: Still, it sounds like they gave away some identifying information, like that fact that the informant used to run M&C Waste services. They narrows down the list of people to off quite a bit I'd think.


Oh great.  And now you too?
 
2013-02-07 12:22:54 PM
If the Post can indentify this informant, it's a pretty good bet that every defendant in the trial already knows who the snitch is.
 
2013-02-07 12:26:43 PM

Harry Freakstorm: The feds say Franco, 77, is known in gangland circles as "Papa Smurf" --

Dey's an order from da boss to smurf someone real smurfy. We's not too sure what we's gotta do though.


Luca Brasi smurfs wit' da fishes.
 
2013-02-07 12:26:46 PM

Vodka Zombie: FTFA: Sources have told The Post that the informant ran M&C Waste Services in Westchester.

Looks like there will be a managerial job opening there soon enough.


Or several, just to be sure.
 
2013-02-07 12:27:21 PM

NewWorldDan: If the Post can indentify this informant, it's a pretty good bet that every defendant in the trial already knows who the snitch is.


Was it Jimmy the Snitch?
 
2013-02-07 12:27:22 PM

waterrockets: Is anyone else getting annoyed enough at six-day old featured partner posts that they're thinking of giving up on Fark?


The tons of Daily Fail articles surely makes me want to reconsider Fark as a funny and informative news source
 
2013-02-07 12:30:04 PM

Pumpernickel bread: Cybernetic: mllawso: Mangoose: You do understand that outing an informant involved GIVING THE farkING PERSON'S NAME AWAY?!?!?!?!

No, it means giving out information that can be used to identify the informant. "Sanitation Worker" narrows it down a lot.

Saying, "the informant ran M&C Waste Services in Westchester," narrows it down pretty well too.

Really, reporter likely cost this guy his life.


If this informant isn't already in witness protection, the prosecution is so incompetent the case probably wouldn't even make it to trial
 
2013-02-07 12:31:29 PM

Harry Freakstorm: The feds say Franco, 77, is known in gangland circles as "Papa Smurf" --

Dey's an order from da boss to smurf someone real smurfy. We's not too sure what we's gotta do though.


If he says Wednesday, it's one thing. If he says Wednesdays, it's something else.
 
2013-02-07 12:34:29 PM

Fano: NewWorldDan: If the Post can indentify this informant, it's a pretty good bet that every defendant in the trial already knows who the snitch is.

Was it Jimmy the Snitch?


It was him or Johnny Tightlips
 
2013-02-07 12:37:48 PM

waterrockets: Is anyone else getting annoyed enough at six-day old featured partner posts that they're thinking of giving up on Fark?


I find not clicking on them helps. As two links with visibly no threads they aren't that obstructive and they have obvious names I wouldn't click anyway. If Fark means so little to you...

4.bp.blogspot.com have fun back on reddit.

Harry Freakstorm: The feds say Franco, 77, is known in gangland circles as "Papa Smurf" --

Dey's an order from da boss to smurf someone real smurfy. We's not too sure what we's gotta do though.


Smeggy Smurf noticeably absent from this thread...
 
2013-02-07 12:44:46 PM
Meh.
Take the dago out back and double tap him.
The mobster, that is.
Uppity frikkin losers.
Anyone thinks they are tough enough to intimidate people like that is a terrorist.
Stop giving them trials.
Treat them like any other terrorist. 
Extreme rendition.
Never seen again.
 
2013-02-07 12:46:11 PM
NYPost should publish the names and addresses of all registered mob members.
 
2013-02-07 12:47:44 PM

Mangoose: You do understand that outing an informant involved GIVING THE farkING PERSON'S NAME AWAY?!?!?!?!

No? You didn't? Ok. Outing an informant involves giving the person's name away. Now you know.


Well, either you didn't RTFA or you like to jump all over people before you've had a chance to process what you've read.  I don't know.  Maybe you woke up on the wrong side of the bed and just decided to be a jerkoff to the first person you thought made a mistake today?

In any case, "outing" someone means revealing their identity.  You can do that without giving a name. Like, say for instance, revealing their place of business and job title. You know, like this quote, "the informant ran M&C Waste Services in Westchester".

Maybe you didn't know that. But hey, now YOU know.

/Probable that the informant was already known now that the charges have been filed, but that's a separate discussion
 
2013-02-07 12:57:27 PM
s3.postimage.org
 
2013-02-07 01:03:37 PM
Sources have told The Post that the informant ran M&C Waste Services in Westchester

"Sources"?

If a certain former head of M&C Waste Services disappears, I wonder how they'll report the follow-up.

But hey, at least they didn't tell everyone what his initials are.
 
2013-02-07 01:05:16 PM
So, have we confirmed what "outing an informant" means? Yes? Good. Next up - what's the mob coming to when an informant can record their shiat for a year and a half, without anyone catching on?
 
2013-02-07 01:06:16 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Sources have told The Post that the informant ran M&C Waste Services in Westchester

"Sources"?

If a certain former head of M&C Waste Services disappears, I wonder how they'll report the follow-up.

But hey, at least they didn't tell everyone what his initials are.


"Sources have told The Post that M&C Waste Services, in Westchester, has an abrupt managerial opening."
 
2013-02-07 01:09:00 PM
Next Weeks News Today:

"A sanitation worker committed suicide last night by tying himself in a burlap sack and shooting himself in the head three times before throwing himself off a bridge. The firearm used in the suicide was not recovered."
 
2013-02-07 01:09:05 PM

scandalrag: Clearly subby doesn't understand the concept of a witness list.  If the case is in court and someone is going to testify for the prosecution, the defense knows it well before the trial.  Darn that pesky Sixth Amendment!


My son had to testify at Grand Jury in a sexual abuse case, (the victim is his friend), and the entire hearing was done in secret. The accused and his attorney had no idea who testified or what they said.
 
2013-02-07 01:16:38 PM

take_flight: scandalrag: Clearly subby doesn't understand the concept of a witness list.  If the case is in court and someone is going to testify for the prosecution, the defense knows it well before the trial.  Darn that pesky Sixth Amendment!

My son had to testify at Grand Jury in a sexual abuse case, (the victim is his friend), and the entire hearing was done in secret. The accused and his attorney had no idea who testified or what they said.


I also wonder if the name of the person who made the recording (which is the actual evidence) can be kept secret.  Confidential informants names are kept secret, from what I remember, and only a compelling interest of the defendant can require the names be made public.  Not sure if some guy who managed to plant  microphone is really a "witness" at all...
 
2013-02-07 01:18:17 PM

take_flight: scandalrag: Clearly subby doesn't understand the concept of a witness list.  If the case is in court and someone is going to testify for the prosecution, the defense knows it well before the trial.  Darn that pesky Sixth Amendment!

My son had to testify at Grand Jury in a sexual abuse case, (the victim is his friend), and the entire hearing was done in secret. The accused and his attorney had no idea who testified or what they said.


They will now!!!
 
2013-02-07 01:20:39 PM

Harry Freakstorm: The feds say Franco, 77, is known in gangland circles as "Papa Smurf" --

Dey's an order from da boss to smurf someone real smurfy. We's not too sure what we's gotta do though.


Smurf you.
 
2013-02-07 01:21:28 PM

mllawso: Mangoose: You do understand that outing an informant involved GIVING THE farkING PERSON'S NAME AWAY?!?!?!?!

No, it means giving out information that can be used to identify the informant. "Sanitation Worker" narrows it down a lot.


Cybernetic: mllawso: Mangoose: You do understand that outing an informant involved GIVING THE farkING PERSON'S NAME AWAY?!?!?!?!

No, it means giving out information that can be used to identify the informant. "Sanitation Worker" narrows it down a lot.

Saying, "the informant ran M&C Waste Services in Westchester," narrows it down pretty well too.


I'm big enough to admit I didn't think that through. I would have assumed this was all common info. I'm assuming it isn't, now.

dennerman: and just decided to be a jerkoff to the first person...


Sort of like this other guy I ran into on the internet, no?
 
2013-02-07 01:25:57 PM

take_flight: scandalrag: Clearly subby doesn't understand the concept of a witness list.  If the case is in court and someone is going to testify for the prosecution, the defense knows it well before the trial.  Darn that pesky Sixth Amendment!

My son had to testify at Grand Jury in a sexual abuse case, (the victim is his friend), and the entire hearing was done in secret. The accused and his attorney had no idea who testified or what they said.


A Grand Jury is not court, so the Sixth Amendment doesn't come into play.  But be sure, if the Grand Jury indicts, the defense will have your son's name and a copy of his testimony the next day.
 
2013-02-07 01:26:19 PM

kim jong-un: Harry Freakstorm: The feds say Franco, 77, is known in gangland circles as "Papa Smurf" --

Dey's an order from da boss to smurf someone real smurfy. We's not too sure what we's gotta do though.

Smurf you.


I'm now envisioning a version of "Goodfellas" with all the f-bombs replaced by "smurf".

"Now go home and get your smurfin' shine box!"
 
2013-02-07 01:28:01 PM

Harry Freakstorm: The feds say Franco, 77, is known in gangland circles as "Papa Smurf" --

Dey's an order from da boss to smurf someone real smurfy. We's not too sure what we's gotta do though.


For some reason I read that in a Jamaican accent in my head.
 
2013-02-07 01:33:34 PM
I am pretty sure I know who the snitch is:

media.lehighvalleylive.com
 
2013-02-07 01:46:28 PM

scandalrag: take_flight: scandalrag: Clearly subby doesn't understand the concept of a witness list.  If the case is in court and someone is going to testify for the prosecution, the defense knows it well before the trial.  Darn that pesky Sixth Amendment!

My son had to testify at Grand Jury in a sexual abuse case, (the victim is his friend), and the entire hearing was done in secret. The accused and his attorney had no idea who testified or what they said.

A Grand Jury is not court, so the Sixth Amendment doesn't come into play.  But be sure, if the Grand Jury indicts, the defense will have your son's name and a copy of his testimony the next day.


What I'm saying is that in the article it stated that trial is set for September, so any testifying that has been done must have been done at Grand Jury, so therefore the defendants or their attorney's would not have anyone's names yet. Plus, this guy was an informant which I believe may be different. It has been over a month since my son testified and we have heard nothing. He was basically dragged in there because he was scared, but I don't think his name will ever be revealed because he is a minor. All witnesses were kept in separate rooms. The entire Grand Jury process was explained, and it's way different than trial.
 
2013-02-07 02:12:30 PM
Wait - wait - hold it.  I thought that Elliot Ness, J. Edgar and Thomas Dewey took down "The Mob."  What's this, then?
 
2013-02-07 02:15:55 PM
Growing up on Long Island you learned quickly that all the carting companies were mob owned and run. The kids never messed with the garbage trucks or the crews. There never were strikes and if you paid your bill (everyone paid) the garbage was always picked up on schedule.
 
2013-02-07 02:16:24 PM

Super Chronic: waterrockets: Is anyone else getting annoyed enough at six-day old featured partner posts that they're thinking of giving up on Fark?

I plan to continue the same strategy as before, which I call "not clicking links that aren't interesting to me."


Yeah, I haven't clicked on one yet, but my brain recognizes them as I'm reading down the page, but since they move up over time, it makes me think I'm down to the last story I saw earlier and can stop looking. Clearly not a major problem, but I wish they had a different color background so I could more easily skip over them.

I now feel like throwing a brick through a Hyundai dealership window though. So there's that.
 
2013-02-07 02:21:27 PM

Fano: NewWorldDan: If the Post can indentify this informant, it's a pretty good bet that every defendant in the trial already knows who the snitch is.

Was it Jimmy the Snitch?


Tommy "The Tape Recorder" Calabrasie?


jake_lex: I'm now envisioning a version of "Goodfellas" with all the f-bombs replaced by "smurf".



"Who the smurf cares? I'll dig the smurfin' hole. I don't give a smurf. What is it, the first hole I dug? Not the first time I dug a hole. I'll smurfin' dig a hole. Where are the shovels?"
 
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