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2013-02-07 09:41:39 AM
What's next, desegregated buses?
 
2013-02-07 09:44:14 AM
I don't know what's worse; that a school district needed to be desegregated or that it took 30 years for a plan to be OKd.
 
2013-02-07 09:47:17 AM

NobleHam: What's next, desegregated buses?


Well, fine...but we don't want the Irish on the buses. We have to draw the line somewhere.
 
2013-02-07 09:50:40 AM

NobleHam: What's next, desegregated buses?


In a couple of years, Tucson will start considering giving women the right to vote.
 
2013-02-07 09:54:04 AM
Ahh, Arizona. I knew something wrong was in the air the minute I got off the plane.


/Lack of humidity, what did you think I meant?
 
2013-02-07 10:02:18 AM
So, this was the hold up on fixing racial tensions.  A little quicker Arizona.

/if only it was that easy
 
2013-02-07 10:28:43 AM

ScouserDuck: I don't know what's worse; that a school district needed to be desegregated or that it took 30 years for a plan to be OKd.


Arizona is for assholes.
Should be the state motto.
 
2013-02-07 10:38:49 AM
Can you tell the homer bias in the article?

...on behalf of black students and Mexican-American students ...
 
2013-02-07 10:42:36 AM
" After extensive negotiations, the parties jointly submitted the four-year plan requiring the district to provide a high quality educational environment for all students. "

Well, glad that's resolved. A summary of the plan would have been helpful...

Implements a range of student assignment and transportation strategies to promote integration;

Builds and supports a diverse community of teachers and administrators;

Establishes culturally responsive curricula to engage and increase the academic achievement of African-American and Latino students;

Promotes a safe and inclusive school environment through effective and supportive school discipline policies;

Provides all students with increased access to advanced academic opportunities;

Strengthens programs to support the academic success and engagement of African-American and Latino students;

Develops and implements training and professional development to support culturally responsive learning environments;

Engages students, families and communities in school programs and activities;

Conducts ongoing monitoring and data-driven evaluations of its desegregation efforts, and submits regular compliance reports.


/somehow they are going to be able to do this now when they couldn't do it for anyone before
 
2013-02-07 10:44:17 AM

jeffowl: " After extensive negotiations, the parties jointly submitted the four-year plan requiring the district to provide a high quality educational environment for all students. "

Well, glad that's resolved. A summary of the plan would have been helpful...

Implements a range of student assignment and transportation strategies to promote integration;

Builds and supports a diverse community of teachers and administrators;

Establishes culturally responsive curricula to engage and increase the academic achievement of African-American and Latino students;

Promotes a safe and inclusive school environment through effective and supportive school discipline policies;

Provides all students with increased access to advanced academic opportunities;

Strengthens programs to support the academic success and engagement of African-American and Latino students;

Develops and implements training and professional development to support culturally responsive learning environments;

Engages students, families and communities in school programs and activities;

Conducts ongoing monitoring and data-driven evaluations of its desegregation efforts, and submits regular compliance reports.


/somehow they are going to be able to do this now when they couldn't do it for anyone before


To tell you the truth...that doesn't sound like desegregation...that looks like specialized instruction.
 
2013-02-07 11:17:06 AM
After extensive negotiations, the parties jointly submitted the four-year plan requiring the district to provide a high quality educational environment for all students.

A four-year plan? They should have just done what my local school district did when they desegregated in 1998. Just close the shiatty black school surrounded by crack houses, and send everyone to the new white school.

Yes, not a typo. It was desegregated in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and ninety eight. Why yes, I do live in the South.
But at least it's not Arizona. Thank you Sheriff Arpaio and Governor Crypt-Keeper; it was a great sacrifice on your part to make it so the land of slavery and plantations is no longer the most racist section of our exceptional nation.
 
2013-02-07 11:26:47 AM

Karac: After extensive negotiations, the parties jointly submitted the four-year plan requiring the district to provide a high quality educational environment for all students.

A four-year plan? They should have just done what my local school district did when they desegregated in 1998. Just close the shiatty black school surrounded by crack houses, and send everyone to the new white school.

Yes, not a typo. It was desegregated in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and ninety eight. Why yes, I do live in the South.
But at least it's not Arizona. Thank you Sheriff Arpaio and Governor Crypt-Keeper; it was a great sacrifice on your part to make it so the land of slavery and plantations is no longer the most racist section of our exceptional nation.


You do realize that this all started 30 years ago right? I'm pretty sure neither Arpaio nor governor Yzma had anything to do with it. Since that time we've had a slew of officials in charge on both side of the spectrum.
 
2013-02-07 11:28:15 AM

ScouserDuck: Karac: After extensive negotiations, the parties jointly submitted the four-year plan requiring the district to provide a high quality educational environment for all students.

A four-year plan? They should have just done what my local school district did when they desegregated in 1998. Just close the shiatty black school surrounded by crack houses, and send everyone to the new white school.

Yes, not a typo. It was desegregated in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and ninety eight. Why yes, I do live in the South.
But at least it's not Arizona. Thank you Sheriff Arpaio and Governor Crypt-Keeper; it was a great sacrifice on your part to make it so the land of slavery and plantations is no longer the most racist section of our exceptional nation.

You do realize that this all started 30 years ago right? I'm pretty sure neither Arpaio nor governor Yzma had anything to do with it. Since that time we've had a slew of officials in charge on both side of the spectrum.


On top of that, Pima county is not maricopa county.
 
2013-02-07 11:58:16 AM

ScouserDuck: I don't know what's worse; that a school district needed to be desegregated or that it took 30 years for a plan to be OKd.


It is desegragated. The population is more than 60% minority.

The lawsuit has been funneled into pet programs like MAS which a state court found to be illegal.

The district is mismanaged with 55% of fees going to administration and the highest per student spending in the state by administrator . They average 250 more per student on administration than any other district largely to comply with the order.

It is a complete money pit based on almost zero identification of actual segragation. The district is majority minority.
 
2013-02-07 12:31:38 PM

CheekyMonkey: NobleHam: What's next, desegregated buses?

In a couple of years, Tucson will start considering giving women the right to vote.


Tucson is a liberal town. City council and school board are almost all democrats. Ignorance is fun, no?
 
2013-02-07 12:35:13 PM

Karac: After extensive negotiations, the parties jointly submitted the four-year plan requiring the district to provide a high quality educational environment for all students.

A four-year plan? They should have just done what my local school district did when they desegregated in 1998. Just close the shiatty black school surrounded by crack houses, and send everyone to the new white school.

Yes, not a typo. It was desegregated in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and ninety eight. Why yes, I do live in the South.
But at least it's not Arizona. Thank you Sheriff Arpaio and Governor Crypt-Keeper; it was a great sacrifice on your part to make it so the land of slavery and plantations is no longer the most racist section of our exceptional nation.


Why are you singling out the sheriff of Maricopa for a city in Pima county? Why a governor for local school district run largely by democrats?

Again, is ignorance really that much fun?
 
2013-02-07 12:45:18 PM
Tucson is super liberal. I'm not sure what school was 'segregated' there. Chances are it was something like there just weren't many white kids that lived close enough to be logically bussed in to go to that school.

Arpaio has no power there.
 
2013-02-07 02:44:02 PM
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ScouserDuck: jeffowl: " After extensive negotiations, the parties jointly submitted the four-year plan requiring the district to provide a high quality educational environment for all students. "

Well, glad that's resolved. A summary of the plan would have been helpful...

Implements a range of student assignment and transportation strategies to promote integration;


Busing lite

Builds and supports a diverse community of teachers and administrators;

Hire less-qualified black and Hispanic teachers and administrators (this might work, though, since minority students sometimes respond better to minority teachers)

Establishes culturally responsive curricula to engage and increase the academic achievement of African-American and Latino students;

Institute a feel-good gobbledegook curriculum as their thousandth failed attempt to close the achievement gap

Promotes a safe and inclusive school environment through effective and supportive school discipline policies;

Don't suspend black kids so much, even if they deserve it

Provides all students with increased access to advanced academic opportunities;

More guidance counselors?

Strengthens programs to support the academic success and engagement of African-American and Latino students;

See gobbledegook supra

Develops and implements training and professional development to support culturally responsive learning environments;

Id.

Engages students, families and communities in school programs and activities;


Try to get black and Hispanic moms to show up at PTA

Conducts ongoing monitoring and data-driven evaluations of its desegregation efforts, and submits regular compliance reports.

Write lots of reports.

Also, people babbling about Arizona and expressing surprise that a desegregation plan is being adopted in 2013  -- do you have any idea how segregated American schools are?  Do you know how segregated your own state is?  Your own district?

Finally, Tucson public schools are about one-quarter non-Hispanic white.  Presumably a combination of low birthrates and white parents getting the hell out of a failed system.  So you can forget about actual integration there.  Not enough white kids to go around.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucson_Unified_School_District
 
2013-02-07 05:04:32 PM

ScouserDuck: I don't know what's worse; that a school district needed to be desegregated or that it took 30 years for a plan to be OKd.


i was prepared to be outraged, until I realized the only reason the students are "segregated" is because most of the minorities live in the same area. The schools lack diversity because one school is physically surrounded by a neighborhood that is nearly 100% minority, while the other school is physically surrounded by a nearly all-white population. The demographics of each school exactly matches the demographics of the neighborhood in which it is located.

In short, the students are separated geographically from the other schools. This is not some political conspiracy to keep blacks and minorities out of "whites only" schools.
 
2013-02-07 05:29:33 PM

MyRandomName: CheekyMonkey: NobleHam: What's next, desegregated buses?

In a couple of years, Tucson will start considering giving women the right to vote.

Tucson is a liberal town. City council and school board are almost all democrats. Ignorance is fun, no?


Yeah, there's even been talk of southern Arizona seceding from the damned North.

I bet the goal was desegregation 30 years ago, but it's morphed into  something else now.
 
2013-02-07 05:42:29 PM
There are days I hate paying property taxes.

What happened in Tucson is the white flight to suburbs that happened elsewhere.
They moved to the Marana, Vail, Tanque Verde, and Catalina Foothills school districts.
They put their kids in private and parochial schools.

Under the desegregation order, the best of the smaller neighborhood schools on the south side - in mostly minority neighborhoods - became magnet schools. Those schools attracted parents who lived in the mostly white school districts and worked downtown. Those schools remain popular and have helped integrate TUSD.

The administrators in the district have wanted to close those small magnet schools in the name of "efficiency" for decades - shoehorning more students into fewer, much larger facilities. The judges in charge of the desegregation program have refused them permission to do so.

I was at a parent meeting at one of those magnet schools four years ago when district administrators were asking for support for unitary status - getting out of the deseg order. They claimed that it was their first such meeting (a lie - some of the parents there had been at an earlier presentation at another of the small schools), and they couldn't answer simple questions:
"What do you plan to do once you achieve unitary status?"
(They wouldn't admit that they planned to close the smaller neighborhood magnet schools.)
My favorite: "You're claiming that the judge blocking you from closing underperforming schools is the reason for the budget "crisis." How will you replace the $65 million in federal and state desegregation funds?"
(No reply for that one, even though they promised to "get back to" the parents on that question.)

It's ridiculous:
TUSD has three (3) finance departments.
Principals with no schools.
Assistant superintendents with no subordinates.
No process for competitive bidding for school supplies.
No E-Rate funds for more than a decade due to district mismanagement.
They've fired school librarians, custodial staff and teaching assistants, and left teacher positions unfilled.

But no administrators (except for the IT mangler who ran up a $12 million deficit) have been fired.

I have a standing proposal for TUSD: Declare a financial emergency, give me the organization charts and the authority to fire, and I will balance the budget and fully fund and staff the schools.

/Surprisingly, they've never taken me up on it.
 
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