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2013-02-07 08:26:52 AM
I bought some of that Ikea crap once.  Once.
 
2013-02-07 08:59:30 AM
I like Ikea furniture.
 
2013-02-07 11:16:17 AM
Moral of the story.  You build something your self, you like it more than something already assembled.  SHOCKING!
 
2013-02-07 11:17:48 AM
Just some oak and some pine and a handful of Norsemen.
 
2013-02-07 11:44:00 AM
I like Ikea furniture, and I enjoy putting it together. And, yes, it does give me more of a sense of ownership to assemble it myself. But it also makes me more likely to modify stuff, because I know how it's put together.

I read Ikea Hackers from time to time for ideas.
 
2013-02-07 11:44:29 AM
In a series of experiments, they have demonstrated that people attach greater value to things they built than if the very same product was built by someone else. And in new experiments published recently, they've discovered why it happens: Building your own stuff boosts your feelings of pride and competence, and also signals to others that you are competent.

This is some really ground-breaking work, here. Nobel Prize, here they come.
 
2013-02-07 12:16:42 PM
So is it because people actually like it more because they built it? Or do they not want to return it on the off-chance that they farked up and don't want to own up to it?
 
2013-02-07 12:18:19 PM
What does the Ikea monkey think about this?
 
2013-02-07 12:18:40 PM
It's probably why food you've grown/killed/caught/gathered yourself just tastes better.
 
2013-02-07 12:21:11 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: I bought some of that Ikea crap once.  Once.


www.ikea.com

It's not all crap.
 
2013-02-07 12:22:33 PM
The closest Ikea to me is 3 hours away.  My wife always insists on buying some crappy furniture there, which inevitably is missing a screw, or has a stripped screw, etc.  It's not worth the hassle to return it, so I always have to go to the hardware store to get something that's allegedly milled the same, but is always different.  So a handle falls off, or the hole that you screw the leg into gets stripped.  And it's always the last piece.  It's like they plan it that way.
 
2013-02-07 12:23:53 PM
I have the opposite syndrome. when I make or build something I see every minor imperfection and can't stand it. People will tell me it looks great and I did a great job and I wonder if they're farking with me...
 
2013-02-07 12:24:16 PM
Long ago in days of yore
It all began with a god named Thor
There were Vikings and boats
And some plans for a furniture store
It's not a bodega, it's not a mall
And they sell things for apartments smaller than mine
As if there were apartments smaller than mine

Ikea: just some oak and some pine and a handful of Norsemen
Ikea: selling furniture for college kids and divorced men
Everyone has a home
But if you don't have a home you can buy one there

So rent a car or take the bus
Lay your cash down and put your trust
In the land where the furniture folds to a much smaller size
Billy the bookcase says hello
And so does a table whose name is Ingo
And the chair is a ladder-back birch but his friends call him Karl

Ikea: just some oak and some pine and a handful of Norsemen
Ikea: selling furniture for college kids and divorced men
Everyone has a home
But if you don't have a home you can buy one there

Ikea: plywood, brushed steel
Ikea: meatballs, tasty
Ikea: Allen wrenches
All of them for free
All of them for me

I'm sorry I said Ikea sucks
I just bought a table for 60 bucks
And a chair and a lamp
And a shelf and some candles for you
I was a doubter just like you
Till I saw the American dream come true
In New Jersey, they got a goddamned Swedish parade

Ikea: just some oak and some pine and a handful of Norsemen
Ikea: selling furniture for college kids and divorced men
Everyone has a home
But if you don't have a home you can buy one there

--Jonathan Coulton
 
2013-02-07 12:24:18 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Lt. Cheese Weasel: I bought some of that Ikea crap once.  Once.

[www.ikea.com image 500x500]

It's not all crap.


That's a stupid looking chair.  Doesn't even look comfortable.
 
2013-02-07 12:24:34 PM

GreenAdder: Just some oak and some pine and a handful of Norsemen.


That sounds like a porn film.
 
2013-02-07 12:24:46 PM
In my experience, my poorly assembled Ikea furniture isn't wonky because I'm incompetent. It's because Ikea stuff is shiat.
 
2013-02-07 12:25:10 PM
I get it. It's the same reason I love my crappy band, but my friends never come see me play.
 
2013-02-07 12:25:27 PM
I have a few pieces of IKEA stuff that is actually quite nice and held up well. Not all of it is that fiberboard and glue crap.

However, if I were to put a piece together that was crooked or looked off this is usually what happens:

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-07 12:26:07 PM
I have never had trouble putting together furniture from IKEA.  A large part of the American population is incompetent.
 
2013-02-07 12:27:02 PM

forresttriax: I have the opposite syndrome. when I make or build something I see every minor imperfection and can't stand it. People will tell me it looks great and I did a great job and I wonder if they're farking with me...


Are you an artist of some kind? It's a common trend among those.
 
2013-02-07 12:27:06 PM
i521.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-07 12:27:36 PM
OK, serious question. What's so special about Ikea? Is Ikea the douchester's version of particle board furniture? I have never bought Ikea, but I have bought particle board (the good kind, not the cheap kind). Is Ikea the Apple of the furniture world?
 
2013-02-07 12:28:00 PM
My wife always just springs IKEA stuff on me.  I come home and there's a huge box waiting for me.

The understanding is that if it gets assembled there's a bottle of Bourbon in it for me if I do it right.
 
2013-02-07 12:29:15 PM
i00.i.aliimg.com

Adjustable feet levelers. Boom. Problem solved.
 
2013-02-07 12:29:16 PM
Do the colors you've picked for your PowerPoint background pop so beautifully that you just have to sit back and admire your own genius?

If you think you are a genius because of a PowerPoint presentation, you might be retarded.
 
2013-02-07 12:29:48 PM
I can relate to this.  My first efforts at building my own bookshelf looked like the bastard son of set-pieces from The Flintstones and The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari.
 
2013-02-07 12:31:57 PM
I like the monkeys at Ikea - especially if they're wearing coats.
 
2013-02-07 12:33:44 PM
I built all the Ikea furniture for our office, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2013-02-07 12:34:10 PM

Krieghund: I like Ikea furniture, and I enjoy putting it together. And, yes, it does give me more of a sense of ownership to assemble it myself. But it also makes me more likely to modify stuff, because I know how it's put together.

I read Ikea Hackers from time to time for ideas.


I just finished assembling my new BESTÅ desk about 20 minutes ago, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.   Ikea does have some cheap crap disposable furniture, but they also sell some very good stuff that will last for years.

//clicking on Ikea Hackers...
 
2013-02-07 12:38:03 PM

brap: I can relate to this.  My first efforts at building my own bookshelf looked like the bastard son of set-pieces from The Flintstones and The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari.


a long time ago i built a rudimentary 4X8X2 bookcase, solid pine with plywood back. just a box really. non sanded. just needed it to store a hell of a lot of books

when the time came, i sawed it in half. now i have a 2X4X2 storage case in the garage. the other wood went for something else...maybe i burned it in a fire pit.

i go for function over form, and never let the perfect be the enemy of the good. too many tortured "artistes" end up just being tortured and not producing any art.
 
2013-02-07 12:44:18 PM
Why do I love furniture from Ikea?  Because I'm going to have to build it myself anyway once I get it home, might as well go with a brand whose instructions I already know how to read.

Oh, and my cheap Ikea computer desk?  It's survived two moves over six years, and is still going strong.
 
2013-02-07 12:48:03 PM

Charlie Chingas: OK, serious question. What's so special about Ikea? Is Ikea the douchester's version of particle board furniture? I have never bought Ikea, but I have bought particle board (the good kind, not the cheap kind). Is Ikea the Apple of the furniture world?


No - it's 90% the quality of Pottery Barn at 1/3 the price.  They sell some crappy particle board shelving that's pretty bad, but once you get up into the $300 range their stuff is pretty good.

Their kitchen cabinets are fantastic.  We did a basement remodel and built a bar area with stuff from Ikea. Cherry wood, frosted glass inserts, granite countertop, hidden LED cabinet lighting, all soft closing hardware, stainless steel sink . . it looked really nice and I think we spent about $2,500 for everything.
 
2013-02-07 12:50:22 PM
If you really want to pump up your self-esteem while using IKEA products:

IKEA Hackers
 
2013-02-07 12:52:06 PM
Thee only thing good about IKEA

www.feveravenue.com
 
2013-02-07 12:52:35 PM

RexTalionis: I like Ikea furniture.


So do I.  It's very affordable and it's better quality than Sauder or any of the other self-assembly furniture.

biyaaatci: The closest Ikea to me is 3 hours away.  My wife always insists on buying some crappy furniture there, which inevitably is missing a screw, or has a stripped screw, etc.  It's not worth the hassle to return it, so I always have to go to the hardware store to get something that's allegedly milled the same, but is always different.  So a handle falls off, or the hole that you screw the leg into gets stripped.  And it's always the last piece.  It's like they plan it that way.


I've never had that happen a single time.  Even if I did, they have an entire wall of self-service parts for free.  You just find the bin you need, grab a new screw or whatever, and you're on your way.
 
2013-02-07 12:54:06 PM

jjorsett: If you really want to pump up your self-esteem while using IKEA products:

IKEA Hackers


OK, I might have to do something like this...

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-07 12:56:16 PM

brewthunda: Charlie Chingas: OK, serious question. What's so special about Ikea? Is Ikea the douchester's version of particle board furniture? I have never bought Ikea, but I have bought particle board (the good kind, not the cheap kind). Is Ikea the Apple of the furniture world?

No - it's 90% the quality of Pottery Barn at 1/3 the price.  They sell some crappy particle board shelving that's pretty bad, but once you get up into the $300 range their stuff is pretty good.

Their kitchen cabinets are fantastic.  We did a basement remodel and built a bar area with stuff from Ikea. Cherry wood, frosted glass inserts, granite countertop, hidden LED cabinet lighting, all soft closing hardware, stainless steel sink . . it looked really nice and I think we spent about $2,500 for everything.


hmmm. I may have to try them next time I replace the furniture in my home office. Thank you.
 
2013-02-07 12:58:35 PM
I always felt that Ikea was a necessary evil. You get cheap furniture and to save money you assemble it yourself. I don't quite get how assembling a simple piece of furniture is going to boost your self-esteem but hey, to each their own. Part of it was the shopping experience. I hate shopping, and once you factored in the drive, parking in that huge lot, meandering through the store for a seeming eternity, back out to the car with furniture, drive home, etc... it was an entire day gone. Plus assembly time. The entire process was just painful to me.

These days my wife buys the furniture. It looks great and I have to do nothing. Of course, it also costs 10x as much as a functional piece of furniture from Ikea. So basically, I farking hate furniture. If I am ever single again I will make my own furniture out of cardboard and milk crates.
 
2013-02-07 12:59:31 PM
Oh, I've got it. What about, if we replace panels A, B, and F, and crossbar H with aircraft grade aluminum?

Right, then the entire thing's one big heat sink.
 
2013-02-07 01:01:54 PM
I've always been amazed at how many parts go into an IKEA product.

We have a double dresser that had over 250 parts.
 
2013-02-07 01:09:11 PM

bob_ross: Moral of the story.  You build something your self, you like it more than something already assembled.  SHOCKING!


No, the moral of the story is that people think that assembling something from a box is the same thing as actually building something.

If I actually built a book-case myself, went out got the boards, finished the wood, found the brackets, and put it all together I would like it immensely even if it was kind of junky.  But the only feeling I've gotten from self-assembling IKEA furniture are a mix of "man mass-production and logistics is pretty neat" and "man this is some shoddy garbage here."

Honestly I think this affect only applies to people that don't work with their hands/people who have never actually built something.
 
2013-02-07 01:16:40 PM

The Angry Hand of God: Do the colors you've picked for your PowerPoint background pop so beautifully that you just have to sit back and admire your own genius?

If you think you are a genius because of a PowerPoint presentation, you might be retarded.


I just spend 4 hours getting logos of our clients to fade in and out every 3 seconds at various .25 second intervals indefinitely without having to set up a custom show.  i've been watching my handiwork for 10 minutes now, so suck it, hater.

<3
 
2013-02-07 01:19:45 PM

LordJiro: So is it because people actually like it more because they built it? Or do they not want to return it on the off-chance that they farked up and don't want to own up to it?


It might also be because of Ikea's return policy:

"If you are not entirely satisfied with your purchase, simply return the unused item in its original packaging within 90 days unless noted below. "

Nobody is going to disassemble their new purchase immediately after building it, carefully pack it back into a box that was almost certainly torn to bits when they opened it and then drive however many miles out of town to the Ikea warehouse store in order to return a $20 LACK Coffee Table.

That said -  It's very hard to make a lopsided Ikea table. Ikea's instructions are fairly idiot proof, their manufacturing tolerances are pretty good and their assembly is much simpler and more efficient than any flat pack furniture I've ever bought elsewhere.
 
2013-02-07 01:20:53 PM
This explains about 90% of the content that people choose to post on Flickr.
 
2013-02-07 01:21:33 PM
Do you feel love for that table?

Tables don't have feelings. You're crazy!

Get rid of that broken table. The new one is stable and so much better.

theinspirationroom.com
 
2013-02-07 01:27:43 PM

Necronic: bob_ross: Moral of the story.  You build something your self, you like it more than something already assembled.  SHOCKING!

No, the moral of the story is that people think that assembling something from a box is the same thing as actually building something.

If I actually built a book-case myself, went out got the boards, finished the wood, found the brackets, and put it all together I would like it immensely even if it was kind of junky.  But the only feeling I've gotten from self-assembling IKEA furniture are a mix of "man mass-production and logistics is pretty neat" and "man this is some shoddy garbage here."

Honestly I think this affect only applies to people that don't work with their hands/people who have never actually built something.


I've actually taken the wood, straight from the lumbermill, and made a bookshelf - planed the wood down to size, jointed it, etc.  It turned out alright, but not great.  I wouldn't say I love it or anything, but it's useful and I've still got it in the house, full of books.  I've also still got some of the better Ikea furniture going (and yes, I assembled it properly).

I've seen these effect at work, though.  Mostly from other people, oddly enough.  If you make something by hand for them, there's a tendency to overlook the defects (especially if they know lots of work went into it) that the maker sees.  They may or may not be worse than anything you'd get from a store, but damn if you don't notice them yourself.
 
2013-02-07 01:31:35 PM

blatz514: Thee only thing good about IKEA

[www.feveravenue.com image 400x400]


I get ophthalmic migraines after eating their meatballs. Never again.
 
2013-02-07 01:34:43 PM

blatz514: Thee only thing good about IKEA

[www.feveravenue.com image 400x400]


www.ikea.com

Pickled herring in mustard sauce.   FTW.
 
2013-02-07 01:38:43 PM

GreenAdder: Just some oak and some pine and a handful of Norsemen.


Shhhhh.  You shouldn't say those words. 'Glee' might steal that song next.
 
2013-02-07 01:40:53 PM
Ikea furniture is the balls.  I love it.
 
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