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(Huffington Post)   Headline: Fox News credibility hits 'record low'. Article: Fox News still more credible than MSNBC, CNN, ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, and even Comedy Central   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 143
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2013-02-07 10:40:43 AM
It's getting to the point that no one trust anyone and we're all buying bunkers.
 
2013-02-07 10:45:07 AM
Being perceived as credible by your viewers is not the same as actually being credible.

Also, from the report:
"We continue to find that Democrats trust most tv news sources other than Fox, while
Republicans don't trust anything except Fox," said Dean Debnam, President of Public
Policy Polling. "News preferences are very polarizing along party lines."


Surprise, surprise, surprise.
 
2013-02-07 10:48:18 AM
So Fox News has finally risen to the level of credibility of a comedy show?
 
2013-02-07 10:50:04 AM

Mentat: So Fox News has finally risen to the level of credibility of a comedy show?


Yeah and Rush Limbaugh really is just an entertainer.
 
2013-02-07 10:58:42 AM

SnarfVader: Being perceived as credible by your viewers is not the same as actually being credible.

Also, from the report:
"We continue to find that Democrats trust most tv news sources other than Fox, while
Republicans don't trust anything except Fox," said Dean Debnam, President of Public
Policy Polling. "News preferences are very polarizing along party lines."

Surprise, surprise, surprise.


Objective, observable reality no longer matters.
 
2013-02-07 11:02:46 AM
And PBS wins the prize, I see.
 
2013-02-07 11:09:08 AM

Jackson Herring: SnarfVader: Being perceived as credible by your viewers is not the same as actually being credible.

Also, from the report:
"We continue to find that Democrats trust most tv news sources other than Fox, while
Republicans don't trust anything except Fox," said Dean Debnam, President of Public
Policy Polling. "News preferences are very polarizing along party lines."

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Objective, observable reality no longer matters.


Which is sad as a lot of right wingers think of themselves as objectivist.
 
2013-02-07 11:12:49 AM
Trollerific headline is trollerific.
 
2013-02-07 11:13:25 AM
Fox News' Credibility At 'Record Low': PPP Poll

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2013-02-07 11:20:43 AM

SnarfVader: "We continue to find that Democrats trust most tv news sources other than Fox, while
Republicans don't trust anything except Fox," said Dean Debnam, President of Public
Policy Polling. "News preferences are very polarizing along party lines."


Bingo. Fox News' numbers get run up because it's the only place Republicans are willing to go. Everyone else sees their numbers diluted because Democratic interests are more varied than that. You see it on the book bestseller lists too: Democrats will buy a bunch of different books, Republicans only buy a few, but they all buy the same ones.
 
2013-02-07 11:23:06 AM

SnarfVader: Being perceived as credible by your viewers is not the same as actually being credible.


Actually, that's exactly what credibility means. Credibility and trust are matters of perception. If the message matches your worldview and values, you will perceive the source as more credible.

Truth, however, is not. And you won't get an indication of how well an institution represents facts from a poll of viewers.
 
2013-02-07 11:26:08 AM

Quality Unassured: SnarfVader: Being perceived as credible by your viewers is not the same as actually being credible.

Actually, that's exactly what credibility means. Credibility and trust are matters of perception. If the message matches your worldview and values, you will perceive the source as more credible.

Truth, however, is not. And you won't get an indication of how well an institution represents facts from a poll of viewers.


Damn. You're right. Insert *thatword.jpg* here. Thanks for the clarification.
 
2013-02-07 11:27:05 AM

Quality Unassured: Truth, however, is not. And you won't get an indication of how well an institution represents facts from a poll of viewers.


Makes me wonder: With the complete ADHD-ness of media and society in general, will we have the patience to actually objectively figure out if we were right or wrong in the future?  Or will the media and historians just be a bunch of poo-flinging bias monkeys?
 
2013-02-07 11:37:13 AM
Did you know that Fox News is the ONLY news outlet not directly controlled by George Soros? Yep. Soros owns all other broadcast networks -- domestic and foreign -- all major newspapers, and most internet sites. Apparently he is secretly a multi-trillionaire with such massive influence even state-owned operations such as the BBC cannot escape his iron grip of liberal socialism and the lone voice of Freedom holding back the barbarian hordes is Fox News.

If you don't know these "facts" then you must not be friends with my aunt on Facebook.
 
2013-02-07 11:39:45 AM

SnarfVader: Being perceived as credible by your viewers is not the same as actually being credible.


Looks like someone didn't understand the article.
Or didn't bother to read it.
Partisan hack is partisan.
 
2013-02-07 11:45:18 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: SnarfVader: Being perceived as credible by your viewers is not the same as actually being credible.

Looks like someone didn't understand the article.
Or didn't bother to read it.
Partisan hack is partisan.


Looks like someone didn't read the thread.
 
2013-02-07 11:48:06 AM
That's because Americans are tired of the LIES from the MSM mainstream lamestreamer cleveland steamer media.
 
2013-02-07 11:49:23 AM
Cultists are usually pretty trusting of their prophets.
 
2013-02-07 11:49:53 AM

Rapmaster2000: That's because Americans are tired of the LIES from the MSM mainstream lamestreamer cleveland steamer media.


I like the cut of your jib, sir.
 
2013-02-07 11:53:54 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: It's getting to the point that no one trust anyone and we're all buying bunkers.


Why are you trying to get people to buy bunkers? Are you a bunker salesman? A shill for Big Bunker? What's your game?
 
2013-02-07 11:56:03 AM
Meanwhile.

truthisawoman.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-07 11:59:12 AM
holy farkin shiat tenpoundsofcheese calling someone partisan ahhah haahahahahahaha
 
2013-02-07 12:06:03 PM

impaler: Meanwhile.

[truthisawoman.files.wordpress.com image 302x303]


Yup, I'll stick with NPR.
 
2013-02-07 12:07:35 PM
Credibility only with the credulous is no kind of credibility at all.
 
2013-02-07 12:07:38 PM

whither_apophis: Jackson Herring: SnarfVader: Being perceived as credible by your viewers is not the same as actually being credible.

Also, from the report:
"We continue to find that Democrats trust most tv news sources other than Fox, while
Republicans don't trust anything except Fox," said Dean Debnam, President of Public
Policy Polling. "News preferences are very polarizing along party lines."

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Objective, observable reality no longer matters.

Which is sad as a lot of right wingers think of themselves as objectivist.



And this is amazing to me.  Their version of an open mind is being willing to consider *their* opinion.  They never come close to entertaining the possibility that they are incorrect about something.
 
2013-02-07 12:07:50 PM
That's because Fox News is starting to show its true colors as just another arm of the Liberal Media.  We need a REAL conservative news network.
 
2013-02-07 12:08:00 PM
Huffington Post with an article about credibility in news reporting? doublefacepalm.jpg
 
2013-02-07 12:08:04 PM
It all makes sense that the results of this poll were voted like any elected official.  Straight down the party line.  We joke about a zombie apocalypse, but it's not quite as far fetched as you might think.  Just replace "zombie" with "Politics" and we're off.
/Apolitycse?
 
2013-02-07 12:08:06 PM

impaler: Meanwhile.

[truthisawoman.files.wordpress.com image 302x303]


lol wut?  The Iraq war ended in 2003?

I'll be damned.

Sounds legit.
 
2013-02-07 12:08:24 PM
Quality Unassured
Trollerific headline is trollerific.

Just replace "Headline:" with "Not news:" and "Article:" with "Fark:".
 
2013-02-07 12:08:35 PM
Most credible:
fc07.deviantart.net
 
2013-02-07 12:10:41 PM
I don't trust that poll.
 
2013-02-07 12:12:01 PM
Wait...the freakin Huffington Post is saying another news agency is biased and not credible?


Pot, meet kettle.
 
2013-02-07 12:12:39 PM

Gosling: SnarfVader: "We continue to find that Democrats trust most tv news sources other than Fox, while
Republicans don't trust anything except Fox," said Dean Debnam, President of Public
Policy Polling. "News preferences are very polarizing along party lines."

Bingo. Fox News' numbers get run up because it's the only place Republicans are willing to go. Everyone else sees their numbers diluted because Democratic interests are more varied than that. You see it on the book bestseller lists too: Democrats will buy a bunch of different books, Republicans only buy a few, but they all buy the same ones.


THIS

FOXNEWS is most trusted for 68% of rmoney voters.
NON-FOX is most trusted for 95% of obama voters.

FOXNEWS is least trusted for 67% of obama voters.
NON-FOX is least trusted for 94% of rmoney voters.

given this level of split, it would have been useful for the pollster to combine the other channels and compare fox vs non-fox results.

welcome to divisive america, the tale of two countries.
 
2013-02-07 12:12:45 PM
Well, anything's more credible than Kroll Show.
 
2013-02-07 12:13:00 PM
The interesting thing (to me) about the data is that while Fox is the most trusted by a wide margin - 34% for Fox, next highest is PBS at 13% - they are also the least trusted by a similar wide margin - 39% for Fox, next highest is MSNBC at 14%. It's no surprise people would distrust Fox, the surprising part is how spread out the conservatives distrust is. It's spread out almost as much as liberal trust is. Not that conservatives trust any of the "liberal" networks, but I figured they'd congregate more on a single source to distrust the most.
 
2013-02-07 12:13:46 PM

impaler: Meanwhile.

[truthisawoman.files.wordpress.com image 302x303]


this this and more THIS.
Strange that fox viewers actually think that they are getting unbiased news.
Strange that they were confused in november when their man lost the election.
 
2013-02-07 12:15:32 PM

halfof33: impaler: Meanwhile.

[truthisawoman.files.wordpress.com image 302x303]

lol wut?  The Iraq war ended in 2003?

I'll be damned.

Sounds legit.


Ahem.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Mission_Accomplished_speech
 
2013-02-07 12:15:48 PM
Trust levels shouldn't be surprising looking at the viewership numbers.
 
2013-02-07 12:16:31 PM

halfof33: impaler: Meanwhile.

[truthisawoman.files.wordpress.com image 302x303]

lol wut?  The Iraq war ended in 2003?

I'll be damned.

Sounds legit.




upload.wikimedia.org

President George W. Bush addresses sailors during the "Mission Accomplished" speech, May 1, 2003.
 
2013-02-07 12:17:24 PM

Bhruic: The interesting thing (to me) about the data is that while Fox is the most trusted by a wide margin - 34% for Fox, next highest is PBS at 13% - they are also the least trusted by a similar wide margin - 39% for Fox, next highest is MSNBC at 14%. It's no surprise people would distrust Fox, the surprising part is how spread out the conservatives distrust is. It's spread out almost as much as liberal trust is. Not that conservatives trust any of the "liberal" networks, but I figured they'd congregate more on a single source to distrust the most.


not really
the poll is flawed in assuming that most or least trusted should be split.
it would have been more informative to see answers to fox vs other.
you can infer those results by looking at the least and most trusted numbers, by how people voted.

in the end, fox is either a trusted or untrusted source of news and how you vote determines which it is.
this is not news.
 
2013-02-07 12:18:03 PM
It's because none of those organizations are in the news business. They are in the political spin business
 
2013-02-07 12:18:21 PM
RIP Critical Thinking
 
2013-02-07 12:19:38 PM
The news is never what you need it to be.  Those things that matter most to your life need to be sought out individually, and the internet is the tool of choice for research into facts and evidence.  You can't rely on anyone else to generalize and interpret the facts for you, because there's nobody who really cares about how they impact you than you.  You must be the master of your own opinion, or you have none.
 
2013-02-07 12:20:29 PM

namatad: the poll is flawed in assuming that most or least trusted should be split.


I'm trying to figure out why that is a "flaw".  If you want to find out which is the most trusted, and which is the least trusted, you need to ask the questions that way.  They aren't trying to figure out how trusted networks are compared to Fox.  If they wanted to run that poll, they'd have done it differently.
 
2013-02-07 12:20:53 PM

xanadian: And PBS wins the prize, I see.


Which is why they must lose their funding.
 
2013-02-07 12:21:32 PM
Comedy Central on that poll?

Really?

Stewart and Colbert don't present news. They comment on things that are in the news, usually making fun of the media sources that present it.

It's meta-news.
 
2013-02-07 12:21:53 PM
Polls have a known liberal bias, so we can just throw this out.
 
2013-02-07 12:22:41 PM
What exactly is there to "distrust" about PBS?

Don't believe Norm Abram's beard is real?
 
2013-02-07 12:27:30 PM
The numerical match-ups are unsurprising.  41% of people trust Fox News, and sure enough right around 41% distrust every non-Fox News outlet except for PBS.  I'm sure it works, in aggregate, in reverse.

I don't think anyone should trust a news network that runs unsubstantiated blog posts as "Breaking News."  I don't watch cable news except when I'm sitting at an airport or some other business that has it on, but it seems to be common practice for FNN and CNN.  I shouldn't be able to de-bunk a news story by merely following the links on the text version back to their OWN SOURCE.
 
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