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(Politico)   Derp Wars Episode V: The Establishment Strikes Back. In a frozen wasteland called "Faux", our heroes prepare for the purging from the GOP empire. Princess Palin is heard to have said "Karl Rove is nothing but a scruffy looking NERFHERDER"   (politico.com ) divider line
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2013-02-07 09:43:30 AM  
FTFA: It is going to require some serious changes, not in principles, but in the way we talk and act.

No...it's going to require some changes in principles, too.
 
2013-02-07 09:46:02 AM  
Also, FTFA: So a political colonoscopy is going on before our eyes. Republican after Republican told us the party dodged a bullet with Mitt Romney's loss: If he had squeaked in, this vital reboot would have been delayed four or eight years.

Haven't a ton of us Farkers been saying this since the primaries??

/POLITICAL POOP THREAD
 
2013-02-07 09:53:05 AM  
"marginalize the cranks, haters and bigots - there's a lot of underbrush that has to be cleaned out."

We're talking 1970s hairy bushy pube underbrush.
 
2013-02-07 10:09:46 AM  
Hmm, showing how batshiat crazy we really are didn't work...I know, let's try being hypocritical!
 
2013-02-07 10:26:11 AM  
If they "marginalize the cranks, haters and bigots", the Republican party's membership will be in the triple digits.
 
2013-02-07 10:30:05 AM  
Too late.  They stared too long into the Derp abyss, and now the Derp stares back at them, slackjawed and drooling.
 
2013-02-07 10:30:16 AM  
Still not clicking on Politico.
 
2013-02-07 10:30:45 AM  

LordJiro: If they "marginalize the cranks, haters and bigots", the Republican party's membership will be in the triple digits.


Dude if they marginalized cranks, bigots, and haters, the big tent would be completely devoid of life.
 
2013-02-07 10:31:03 AM  

xanadian: FTFA: It is going to require some serious changes, not in principles, but in the way we talk and act.

No...it's going to require some changes in principles, too.


^^^  THIS

^^^^ That, even
 
2013-02-07 10:33:48 AM  

xanadian: Also, FTFA: So a political colonoscopy is going on before our eyes. Republican after Republican told us the party dodged a bullet with Mitt Romney's loss: If he had squeaked in, this vital reboot would have been delayed four or eight years.

Haven't a ton of us Farkers been saying this since the primaries 2008??


And it'll keep being juuuuuuuust over the horizon.

The GOP is, ironically, Too Big to Fail. They will (are) ideologically shift(ing) - immigration reform, they abandoned the hard-line against taxes for about 2 days, they're jettisoning the yahoos (publicly, at least) - so the New GOP will contain much of the old's structure and people. It's just a very slow shift, and inertia is a terrible thing here.
 
2013-02-07 10:33:54 AM  
The Republicans are stuck. The establishment GOP ship knows it's headed for a demographic iceberg and needs to change or die. But they're tethered to Fox News and its audience, which won't let them change course. And Fox News itself also realizes it's headed for the same iceberg to a certain degree, but Roger Ailes is tied to the Breitbarts and Newsmaxes that won't let them budge, either.

They've been creating this monster of ugly profiteering and rabid resentment for decades. They can't just make it go away now. The base has too much invested, and the con artists aren't done bilking their marks. Link
 
2013-02-07 10:34:34 AM  
The GOP can either reshape itself into resembling the most hated Presidential regime in recent memory, or they can reshape themselves into the Tea Party which hasn't successfully won any meaningful elections. Great world of choices, that.
 
2013-02-07 10:35:39 AM  

xanadian: FTFA: It is going to require some serious changes, not in principles, but in the way we talk and act.

No...it's going to require some changes in principles, too.


How can it even be considered serious change our you aren't reworking your principles? Changing how you talk isn't significant
 
2013-02-07 10:35:47 AM  
Spoiler Alert: There's going to be a scene set in Alaska where Trig Palin cuts his mother open with a light saber and climbs inside for warmth.
 
2013-02-07 10:38:58 AM  
Fox is still doing what they've always done: project an alternate reality where everything that is wrong with Republicans is actually wrong with the Democrats.

My cousin watches Fox religiously and he keeps fb messaging me about how divided and desperate the Democrats right now. "If the Republicans just voted present on all the dems proposals, you'd see a Civil War in the Democratic Party. They're cracking at the seams because the southern dems don't want to cooperate with Pelosi, Obama and the far left liberal wing of the party."

So no matter what happens, Fox will keep doing what it does best: Reporting that up is actually down and clearly it's the Democrats fault.
 
2013-02-07 10:39:04 AM  
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Whoever heard of the President of Noboo-ey boo-ey booey-stan?
 
2013-02-07 10:39:08 AM  
One high-profile Republican strategist, who refused to be named in order to avoid inflaming the very segments of the party he wants to silence, said there is a deliberate effort by party leaders to "marginalize the cranks, haters and bigots - there's a lot of underbrush that has to be cleaned out."

Wow, that's pretty on the nose. The purge is real.
 
2013-02-07 10:42:47 AM  
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2013-02-07 10:43:47 AM  

Amdam: xanadian: FTFA: It is going to require some serious changes, not in principles, but in the way we talk and act.

No...it's going to require some changes in principles, too.

How can it even be considered serious change our you aren't reworking your principles? Changing how you talk isn't significant


Jindal kind-of gave the game away, there. He might as well have said "We need a plan for tricking people into voting for Republicans. We keep telling them what we actually think, when we need to be telling them what they want to hear."
 
2013-02-07 10:45:52 AM  
bunch of
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2013-02-07 10:46:29 AM  
FAFA on this topic:
Mr. Broun, a physician on the House Science, Space and Technology Committee, attracted attention last fall for saying that "evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory - all of that is lies straight from the pit of hell."

If that doesn't scare the Beelzebub out of you. Not possible in any other country, exceptionalism indeed.
 
2013-02-07 10:46:30 AM  

LordJiro: If they "marginalize the cranks, haters and bigots", the Republican party's membership will be in the triple  single digits.

 
2013-02-07 10:46:48 AM  
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His high exaultedness, Governor Christie, has decreed that you are to be terminated in the pit of despair. Also known as Newark.
 
2013-02-07 10:48:14 AM  
that's some fine ham-fisted politicing there GOP.

these guys think they can just brush aside the loud and proud hoards they've been nurturing for years?

at the same time they think that by turning their backs on their own terrifying creation that they'll gain voters from the groups they've been demonizing and badgering for years?


this will be fun to watch, the TPers are more than capable of turning on the GOP, certainly in house races and certainly at the local/state level. The moderates, latinos, women, independents, etc that these asshats apparently expect to gain are IMO not going to be so easily fooled.

If the GOP and the TP split I doubt the GOP will be viable a national party much longer....I'm hopeful anyway.
 
2013-02-07 10:53:54 AM  

realmolo: Amdam: xanadian: FTFA: It is going to require some serious changes, not in principles, but in the way we talk and act.

No...it's going to require some changes in principles, too.

How can it even be considered serious change our you aren't reworking your principles? Changing how you talk isn't significant

Jindal kind-of gave the game away, there. He might as well have said "We need a plan for tricking people into voting for Republicans. We keep telling them what we actually think, when we need to be telling them what they want to hear."


They've got a problem there too. In 2010, they ran on a bunch of unrelated stuff, and proceeded to focus on abortion restrictions once elected. There is a large portion of the public who thinks the GOP, if elected, will focus on social right-wing agenda items at the expense of anything else, regardless of what they say. And those people are probably right.
 
2013-02-07 10:55:18 AM  

unexplained bacon: that's some fine ham-fisted politicing there GOP.

these guys think they can just brush aside the loud and proud hoards they've been nurturing for years?

at the same time they think that by turning their backs on their own terrifying creation that they'll gain voters from the groups they've been demonizing and badgering for years?


this will be fun to watch, the TPers are more than capable of turning on the GOP, certainly in house races and certainly at the local/state level. The moderates, latinos, women, independents, etc that these asshats apparently expect to gain are IMO not going to be so easily fooled.


It is going to be a cavalcade of disingenuous bullsh*t
 
2013-02-07 10:58:46 AM  

realmolo: Amdam: xanadian: FTFA: It is going to require some serious changes, not in principles, but in the way we talk and act.

No...it's going to require some changes in principles, too.

How can it even be considered serious change our you aren't reworking your principles? Changing how you talk isn't significant

Jindal kind-of gave the game away, there. He might as well have said "We need a plan for tricking people into voting for Republicans. We keep telling them what we actually think, when we need to be telling them what they want to hear."


I'm afraid we're heading for another policy much like trickle down economics, in that they find a way to make an absolutely awful idea around great to lower class citizens that only benefits the rich and takes decades to untangle
 
2013-02-07 11:01:12 AM  

busy chillin': unexplained bacon: that's some fine ham-fisted politicing there GOP.

these guys think they can just brush aside the loud and proud hoards they've been nurturing for years?

at the same time they think that by turning their backs on their own terrifying creation that they'll gain voters from the groups they've been demonizing and badgering for years?


this will be fun to watch, the TPers are more than capable of turning on the GOP, certainly in house races and certainly at the local/state level. The moderates, latinos, women, independents, etc that these asshats apparently expect to gain are IMO not going to be so easily fooled.

It is going to be a cavalcade of disingenuous bullsh*t


it is, and oddly enough they'll be actively shunning the demographics who were most inclined to buy the shiat they're selling. That same demo will be flinging around more FW:FW:fw: GOP traitors!!! emails than you can shake a transvaginal wand at. Not sure if the GOP realizes just how reactionary and adversarial this TP can get.

couldn't happen to a nicer bunch. Not sure how long this house of cards will take to fall, but I'm pretty confident their failure will be America's success.

/I dare to hope
 
2013-02-07 11:04:20 AM  
FTFA

"Rove's prominent and annoying display on Fox News as the Republican ruling class' mouthpiece and his new effort aimed at defeating the Tea Party makes him the point man for destroying the very conservative movement that made him a national name in politics in the first place," Deace wrote.

These farkers don't even know their own history.  Karl Rove was a national name in politics since well before the Tea Party.
 
2013-02-07 11:05:56 AM  
"I don't think it's just a marketing change. I don't think it's just cosmetic changes. It is going to require some serious changes, not in principles, but in the way we talk and act."

Not a marketing or cosmetic change, but a change in the way we talk.
Another fine example of cognitive dissonance.
 
2013-02-07 11:10:43 AM  

Amdam: xanadian: FTFA: It is going to require some serious changes, not in principles, but in the way we talk and act.

No...it's going to require some changes in principles, too.

How can it even be considered serious change our you aren't reworking your principles? Changing how you talk isn't significant


It's pretty much like someone pointed out in another thread, the problem is they still think they are right.  Their problem isn't with Todd Akin's politics, it is that he is too honest when he expresses them.
 
2013-02-07 11:18:49 AM  

Wendy's Chili: Still not clicking on Politico.


What?

Politico is about the least biased pundit site Fark links to.  I've NEVER read a Politico article and, say, closed it after an opening sentence that was so offensively stupid that I couldn't continue, or thought to myself "yeah it'd be nice, but damn, put down the bong you hippy".

Yeah, they're not liberal, but they at least made a good attempt at being objective.
 
2013-02-07 11:22:54 AM  

xanadian: FTFA: It is going to require some serious changes, not in principles, but in the way we talk and act.

No...it's going to require some changes in principles, too.


I noticed that he didn't say anything about policy. That's gonna have to change, too.
 
2013-02-07 11:28:19 AM  
 
2013-02-07 11:32:52 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: One high-profile Republican strategist, who refused to be named in order to avoid inflaming the very segments of the party he wants to silence, said there is a deliberate effort by party leaders to "marginalize the cranks, haters and bigots - there's a lot of underbrush that has to be cleaned out."

Wow, that's pretty on the nose. The purge is real.


I can't help but wonder if the Koch brothers are partially behind this, too.  David comes off somewhere between Rockefeller and Libertarian (considering he was their VP nominee a ways back).  I'm sure he's sick and tired of the social derp the "mainstream" GOP has been spewing lately.  It ultimately is costing him his bottom line.  And it's hard for me to speak TOO much ill for a guy who is one of the top philanthropists in the country.  I just think his fiscal views are a bit TOO far to the right.

YMMV.

realmolo: Jindal kind-of gave the game away, there.


That may be the thinking of another segment of the GOP leadership.  Jindal still wants the supposed "tried and true" of the past decade or so, while the strategist mentioned earlier suggests a more fundamental shift.  Seems to me the GOP is still trying to flay this one out.  Hopefully some good will come of it, but I'm not holding my breath.

Neeek: And those people are probably right.


I, sadly, agree.
 
2013-02-07 12:00:47 PM  
"Senate GOP leaders created what amounts to a buddy system with their caucus's most popular tea party members, Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky and Ted Cruz of Texas, to get their help in taming anti-establishment conservatives."

Paul and Cruz are collaborating with the enemy. To arms, Tea Party Patriots! These RINOs must be defeated!
 
2013-02-07 12:02:23 PM  
House of Tards
 
2013-02-07 12:13:51 PM  
FTFA: It is going to require some serious changes, not in principles, but in the way we talk and act.
 
2013-02-07 12:14:56 PM  
Senate GOP leaders created what amounts to a http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81194.html" target=_blank>buddy system with their caucus's most popular tea party members, Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky and Ted Cruz of Texas, to get their help in taming anti-establishment conservatives.Ah you mean the same Sens. Cruz and Paul (Along with GOP's Great Hispanic Hope, Marco Rubio) who voted against the renewed Violence Against Women Act?

Yeah, yeah, you sure are "reignin' 'em in," GOP.
 
2013-02-07 12:16:37 PM  
verbaltoxin: "Senate GOP leaders created what amounts to a buddy system with their caucus's most popular tea party members, Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky and Ted Cruz of Texas, to get their help in taming anti-establishment conservatives."

Ah you mean the same Sens. Cruz and Paul (Along with GOP's Great Hispanic Hope, Marco Rubio) who voted against the renewed Violence Against Women Act?

Yeah, yeah, you sure are "reignin' 'em in," GOP.


FTFFormatting
 
2013-02-07 12:16:49 PM  

HighOnCraic: FTFA: It is going to require some serious changes, not in principles, but in the way we talk and act.


arolemodel.com
 
2013-02-07 12:20:22 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Things In Politico That Make Me Want To Guzzle Antifreeze, Part The Infinity


That was full of win.
 
2013-02-07 12:42:43 PM  

DemonEater: Wendy's Chili: Still not clicking on Politico.

What?

Politico is about the least biased pundit site Fark links to.  I've NEVER read a Politico article and, say, closed it after an opening sentence that was so offensively stupid that I couldn't continue, or thought to myself "yeah it'd be nice, but damn, put down the bong you hippy".

Yeah, they're not liberal, but they at least made a good attempt at being objective.


No. They (particularly Jim Vandehei and Mike Allen) are sycophantic beltway gossips. When Nate Silver talks about the signal and the noise, Politico is the noise he's referring to. If your definition of "objective" is "repeat whatever the supply-side 'centrist' establishment says" (Social Security must be cut!) then yeah, I suppose they're objective all f*cking day.
 
2013-02-07 12:45:31 PM  
... Anyone remember the old 'Kids in the Hall' sketch, with the company that was trying to sell 'MudGum'?

The entire board was convinced that their Mud Flavored Chewing Gum wasn't selling because they broke a chain letter.  The one desperate guy who kept wailing 'But we're selling *MUD* *GUM*!' was completely ignored, as if he wasn't even in the room.

Yeah, *that* is today's GOP.
 
2013-02-07 12:53:39 PM  
This is what happens when the Useful Idiots are no longer useful to the Koch Brothers.
 
2013-02-07 12:54:03 PM  

Zerochance: FTFA

"Rove's prominent and annoying display on Fox News as the Republican ruling class' mouthpiece and his new effort aimed at defeating the Tea Party makes him the point man for destroying the very conservative movement that made him a national name in politics in the first place," Deace wrote.

These farkers don't even know their own history.  Karl Rove was a national name in politics since well before the Tea Party.


NO.  THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING BETWEEN 2000 AND 2008.  THEY TOOK THOSE YEARS OFF.
 
2013-02-07 01:00:52 PM  

Dr Dreidel: they're jettisoning the yahoos (publicly, at least)


I have to admit having a sense of "Dafuq?" when seeing Karl Rove turn his guns on Steve King to prevent him from making a grab at Tom Harkin's soon to be vacated seat.

Of course, I do not for a second believe this is a GOP trying to rehabilitate itself. Even when/if they shake all the crazies out of the party, it's still going to be an Engine of Evil.
 
2013-02-07 01:14:19 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-07 01:22:14 PM  

xanadian: No...it's going to require some changes in principles, too.


Proving that the GOP still doesn't get it.  These farkers are just going to keep putting lipstick on that pig, thinking that maybe if they try a different shade, people will finally think it's beautiful.
 
2013-02-07 01:24:55 PM  

xanadian: FTFA: It is going to require some serious changes, not in principles, but in the way we talk and act.

No...it's going to require some changes in principles, too.


Not if they just stop telling people what their principles are.
 
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