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(The Raw Story)   "The fact remains, the instant availability of everything ever means I am consuming something that was never aimed at me, from a time and a place I have no connection with, and yet I am nearly enjoying it"   (rawstory.com) divider line 69
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2013-02-07 12:23:21 AM
Midget tranny porn?
 
2013-02-07 12:31:56 AM
Well yeah, it's good that all the greatest stuff of all time is easily downloadable, I mean, even prodigious modern output can't keep up.
 
2013-02-07 12:33:17 AM
here, enjoy a 1940s NSFW navy cartoon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4w7FI2pYWc
 
2013-02-07 12:36:29 AM
The lack of gay midget donkey fisting pr0n is still a source of dismay and malaise to some of us....
 
2013-02-07 12:38:46 AM
This is the second main board article this week that mentions Mission of Burma. Awesome.
 
2013-02-07 12:39:07 AM

SpdrJay: The lack of gay midget donkey fisting pr0n is still a source of dismay and mayonnaise to some of us....


ftfy
 
2013-02-07 12:40:31 AM
well, almost got that right. cancel the cancelation of the 2nd "of"
 
2013-02-07 12:43:51 AM
this is a really smart point. when i got into peer to peer music, the present gradually vanished to a nub.
 
2013-02-07 12:47:00 AM
It also leads to things that might be aimed at you, but you  would previously have had no chance of getting.


Like my new weekend/summer project

/excited, but don't have the time at the moment
//thank you random Aussie
 
2013-02-07 12:50:33 AM
I'm unsure what the article writer is getting at: Is that a problem or a benefit?

Yeah, some kids today will totally get into something made decades before they were born. And others will refuse to listen to anything more than three years ago. So what? The good news is they have a choice what to consume instead of just being forced-fed whatever is shoved through the bottleneck of pop uniformity.

What I'm trying to say is:

There will ALWAYS be those people who think that Tainted Love is a 2006 hit song by dance act Milk, Inc.
But there will be those people who know better, that it was a cover of a 2001 hit song by industrial artist Marilyn Manson.
And there will be those people who know even better, that it was a cover of a 1982 hit song by synthpop artist Soft Cell.
And there will be those people who know even better than that, that it was a cover of a 1964 hit song by R&B artist Gloria.

The good news is finding this out is pretty easy these days so there should be less excuse for ignorance even though there seems to be a lot more of it.
 
2013-02-07 12:51:47 AM
He thinks "everything ever" is on the internet.
 
2013-02-07 12:56:25 AM
Just before Christmas, I saw

"Your story becomes tiresome."

i2.listal.com
 
2013-02-07 12:57:01 AM

UsikFark: He thinks "everything ever" is on the internet.




Not a shot of Patron followed by a beer chaser, which is exactly what I need after reading that bullshiat.
 
2013-02-07 12:59:33 AM
The sponsored links suck syphilitic donkey balls.  Not being able to discuss them is just cowardly.  And schiatty.  Really schiatty.
 
kab
2013-02-07 01:02:09 AM
Good music, like most art, is rather timeless.

If there's any sense of guilt to be felt about anything along these lines, it's this:  you, as the average listener, from the inception of the recorded medium until only quite recently, have been robbed of some absolutely amazing music, due to how distribution and promotion of successful acts has historically been a gateway monitored by a very small group of people.

Now that that is no longer the case (for the most part), the responsibility for finding that which you deem good is entirely in your hands.  If you're insisting on being told what to listen to, you'll receive a variant on the same lowest common denominator drivel that you've been getting for decades.... but who knows, maybe that's your thing.

Remember that next time you want to complain that there's no good music being made these days.
 
2013-02-07 01:04:27 AM
The guitar is all over the place though, wandering randomly between the speaker channels, like marketing people searching for demographic certainties in an age where everything that ever was is suddenly available to everyone.Wow. That's so farking deep, and not at all stuck up its own arse.
 
2013-02-07 01:04:29 AM

Mock26: The sponsored links suck syphilitic donkey balls.  Not being able to discuss them is just cowardly.  And schiatty.  Really schiatty.


If they are going to have them at least they should stop bugging us about Ad-Block plus
 
2013-02-07 01:09:42 AM
Also, I don't understand why the quote is so special.

We still listen to classical don't we? That was made hundreds of years ago for people who didn't even have toilets in their homes and forsook bathing because it carried disease.
 
2013-02-07 01:15:45 AM
It's a good thing too, if it wasn't for the internet, I'd be a Marylin Manson and/or NiN fan due to my former friend introducing me into her ideal (Mansonite) of what the Goth subculture is. Baruch Hashem (Thank G-d)!
 
2013-02-07 01:16:27 AM

Rufus Lee King: ytterbium: This is the second main board article this week that mentions Mission of Burma. Awesome.

They panicked.


Anyway, if  Mission of Burma came from the zoo, it would have 'property of the zoo' stamped on it.
 
2013-02-07 01:17:29 AM
You could just enjoy stuff, instead of trying to prove your hipster credentials by meta-analyzing the trendiness of it into the ground.
 
2013-02-07 01:19:50 AM

Ishkur: Also, I don't understand why the quote is so special.

We still listen to classical don't we? That was made hundreds of years ago for people who didn't even have toilets in their homes and forsook bathing because it carried disease.


We listen to performances of the music, not the original pieces.  We don't have any recordings of Bach playing his pieces.  We don't have recordings of pressed men in the Royal Navy singing shanties, or original productions of Antigone.  We have recreations and interpretations.  It makes you think, what wonders we'd have if someone like Rameau had access to recording equipment.  But then, half of the joy is in hearing different interpretations - think Hendrix vs. Dylan.
 
2013-02-07 01:20:59 AM

Gyrfalcon: You could just enjoy stuff, instead of trying to prove your hipster credentials by meta-analyzing the trendiness of it into the ground.


THIS!!!!!
 
2013-02-07 01:23:48 AM
I think I see the author's point but the whole thing kind of smacked of elitism. I'm also skeptical about how qualified a "45-year-old ass" is to comment on seemingly every artists' target audiences. I imagine most artists can get behind the idea of people perceiving their works in their own way.

/Hawkwind sucks
 
2013-02-07 01:27:10 AM

Ishkur: We still listen to classical don't we?


Don't tell anyone they're fans of a cover band.
 
2013-02-07 01:29:12 AM

ciberido: Rufus Lee King: ytterbium: This is the second main board article this week that mentions Mission of Burma. Awesome.

They panicked.

Anyway, if  Mission of Burma came from the zoo, it would have 'property of the zoo' stamped on it.


Why did you say Mission?
 
2013-02-07 01:30:42 AM

Gyrfalcon: You could just enjoy stuff, instead of trying to prove your hipster credentials by meta-analyzing the trendiness of it into the ground.


Whoah there, chief.  How else will people know that I'm a bloviating hipster, huh?
 
2013-02-07 01:32:58 AM

Ishkur: I'm unsure what the article writer is getting at: Is that a problem or a benefit?


His article is confusing me. At first it sounds like he doesn't think that younger people should be able to listen to his music (and if the internet wasn't there, then they wouldn't know it even exists!). He wonders why they are there but doesn't ask since they won't be able to articulate it.

This pretty much sums it up for me though, "Indeed, this Transient Amplitude growler makes me think these Medusa cats might be quite good after all. I don't know if I'm allowed to like them, but there doesn't seem to be anyone in any position of authority telling me I shouldn't, so I am going to anyway."

It looks as though this guy has followed music based on what his friends/media have told him to follow. He is almost 45 and doesn't know if he is allowed to like them? At first it sounds like he is speaking poorly of the song but flip flopped after his comparison to Hawkwind and how young people are encouraged to admire them.
 
2013-02-07 01:33:21 AM
The guy makes a point of something I've been talking about for years: the past isn't gone; hell it's not even the past anymore because 'everything' is available.

Yeah this isn't really true because each time a new format/medium comes out easily 80%+ of the music doesn't get transferred but still he makes the observation that there is no context for music anymore:
John Mayer is not the same as Dylan nor is he the same as Clapton.
 
2013-02-07 01:51:14 AM

Mock26: The sponsored links suck syphilitic donkey balls.  Not being able to discuss them is just cowardly.  And schiatty.  Really schiatty.


Am I missing something? This is the second comment today saying almost exactly this. OK, I understand that there are sponsored links. I was under the impression that all sponsored links were labelled as such, but I don't really care enough to check if that's the case. Nobody forced me to click on TFA--in fact, I chose not to. Yet, here we are, discussing it. Is there some secret FARK forum where we discuss links other than in the comment thread? Is this entire thread some sort of opium dream I'm having? WTF is the deal?
 
2013-02-07 01:56:11 AM
TFA must have been written by a Dylan fan. It suddenly started, rambled all over the place, then just stopped.

At least with the internet you aren't limited to what the would-be 'corporate masters' insist on spoon-feeding everyone. And your favorite indy station can't be stomped on and bought out by Clear Channel. With places like youtube you can even listen to music from other countries that would NEVER play on a local station (or MTV/VH1 for that matter) such as this (for example). Given a choice, people will find what they like and listen to it regardless of when or where it was made or who it was aimed at.

/if you need Billboard or Clear Channel to tell you what is 'good' then you're doing it wrong anyway
//so shine on you crazy diamond
 
2013-02-07 01:56:16 AM

TopoGigo: Mock26: The sponsored links suck syphilitic donkey balls.  Not being able to discuss them is just cowardly.  And schiatty.  Really schiatty.

Am I missing something? This is the second comment today saying almost exactly this. OK, I understand that there are sponsored links. I was under the impression that all sponsored links were labelled as such, but I don't really care enough to check if that's the case. Nobody forced me to click on TFA--in fact, I chose not to. Yet, here we are, discussing it. Is there some secret FARK forum where we discuss links other than in the comment thread? Is this entire thread some sort of opium dream I'm having? WTF is the deal?


All I can say is the low level threads, we have the freedom to speak about other subjects. One of the things we despise is being censored on commenting on articles a company pays for. Drew has enough beer for this quarter already I'm sure, he doesn't need to go into a "craft brewery" (Hipsterfied crappy term, used to be called "micro brewery") to get the expensive beer.
 
2013-02-07 02:01:36 AM

Tenatra: This pretty much sums it up for me though, "Indeed, this Transient Amplitude growler makes me think these Medusa cats might be quite good after all. I don't know if I'm allowed to like them, but there doesn't seem to be anyone in any position of authority telling me I shouldn't, so I am going to anyway."

It looks as though this guy has followed music based on what his friends/media have told him to follow. He is almost 45 and doesn't know if he is allowed to like them?


wait, you are on the internets, hell - you are on FARK of all places - and you can't into sarcasm? that's a truly dangerous combo right there dude.
 
2013-02-07 02:01:47 AM
Hipsters should stick to instagraming their food. That said, hipster is term that gets over-used now, but this guy truly deserves the label.
/we get it, there's a lot of stuff on the internets
 
2013-02-07 02:03:00 AM
 
2013-02-07 02:03:55 AM
i got sick of over hype and over sell in the 70s. when i no longer had Bruce Springsteen being shoved down my throat by too many radio stations i could finally handle buying a hand full of his tapes at a yard sale. years after the disco craze had gone away i gave it a chance and was pleasantly surprised with some cuts. sometimes its the advertising madmen that turn you off to things.
 
2013-02-07 02:04:22 AM

UsikFark: Don't tell anyone they're fans of a cover band.


To a songwriter/composer, all bands are cover bands.
 
2013-02-07 02:05:40 AM

Tenatra: He is almost 45 and doesn't know if he is allowed to like them?


s3.vidimg02.popscreen.com
 
2013-02-07 02:07:20 AM

DarkSoulNoHope: TopoGigo: Mock26: The sponsored links suck syphilitic donkey balls.  Not being able to discuss them is just cowardly.  And schiatty.  Really schiatty.

Am I missing something? This is the second comment today saying almost exactly this. OK, I understand that there are sponsored links. I was under the impression that all sponsored links were labelled as such, but I don't really care enough to check if that's the case. Nobody forced me to click on TFA--in fact, I chose not to. Yet, here we are, discussing it. Is there some secret FARK forum where we discuss links other than in the comment thread? Is this entire thread some sort of opium dream I'm having? WTF is the deal?

All I can say is the low level threads, we have the freedom to speak about other subjects. One of the things we despise is being censored on commenting on articles a company pays for. Drew has enough beer for this quarter already I'm sure, he doesn't need to go into a "craft brewery" (Hipsterfied crappy term, used to be called "micro brewery") to get the expensive beer.


Wait, are you complaining about not being able to threadjack? I, for one, don't need to know what would happen if only every internet video had a gun, or Obamacare music, or what the hell ever. Am I being dense? Again, I seem to be missing something. Are we being censored on the topic at hand? I haven't seen what (if anything) has been deleted, so maybe I'm just not following what you're hinting at.
 
2013-02-07 02:10:51 AM

99.998er: UsikFark: He thinks "everything ever" is on the internet.

Not a shot of Patron followed by a beer chaser, which is exactly what I need after reading that bullshiat.


It took haunting Usenet forever to find any Spider John Koerner.  Maybe it's different now, I dunno...
 
2013-02-07 02:18:55 AM
This just means modern media has to not suck to compete. I think music is at a low point right now but television is definitely at a high point. On average.
 
2013-02-07 02:22:50 AM
Am out at the end of the Long Tail of marketing, as it is.  Anything that isn't obviously derivative and over produced is worth a listen.  Pretty much just fire up Wavosaur and go mining the Internet Archive's Live Music collection when I've the chance.
 
2013-02-07 02:23:43 AM

TopoGigo: DarkSoulNoHope: TopoGigo: Mock26: The sponsored links suck syphilitic donkey balls.  Not being able to discuss them is just cowardly.  And schiatty.  Really schiatty.

Am I missing something? This is the second comment today saying almost exactly this. OK, I understand that there are sponsored links. I was under the impression that all sponsored links were labelled as such, but I don't really care enough to check if that's the case. Nobody forced me to click on TFA--in fact, I chose not to. Yet, here we are, discussing it. Is there some secret FARK forum where we discuss links other than in the comment thread? Is this entire thread some sort of opium dream I'm having? WTF is the deal?

All I can say is the low level threads, we have the freedom to speak about other subjects. One of the things we despise is being censored on commenting on articles a company pays for. Drew has enough beer for this quarter already I'm sure, he doesn't need to go into a "craft brewery" (Hipsterfied crappy term, used to be called "micro brewery") to get the expensive beer.

Wait, are you complaining about not being able to threadjack? I, for one, don't need to know what would happen if only every internet video had a gun, or Obamacare music, or what the hell ever. Am I being dense? Again, I seem to be missing something. Are we being censored on the topic at hand? I haven't seen what (if anything) has been deleted, so maybe I'm just not following what you're hinting at.


Not threadjacking, just upset along with Mock26, that there are links posted on the site that we can't comment on because Fark is getting paid to do it that way. If I am going to read it, I want to have my opinion on it for that thread, otherwise what's the point of it being here and not keep it with the advertisements on the right of the page? It might as well say "advertisement" or "sponsored link" on the graphic instead of something like "amusing".
 
2013-02-07 02:26:58 AM

Gyrfalcon: You could just enjoy stuff, instead of trying to prove your hipster credentials by meta-analyzing the trendiness of it into the ground.


this.

Hey I'm cool because I know about something from the first time around.

So did your parents. You'll get over it.

Articles like this are weapons grade smug and leave me with some sick in my mouth.
 
2013-02-07 02:27:28 AM

Cyno01: This just means modern media has to not suck to compete. I think music is at a low point right now but television is definitely at a high point. On average.


cable tv is amazing right now, though film has completely gone to shiat IMO
 
2013-02-07 02:27:31 AM

Cyno01: I think music is at a low point right now but television is definitely at a high point


Wat. There's something GOOD on television?

Really, if anything, I think TV was better merely a few years ago, before reality shows took over things like the History Channel, Discovery, and the lot. I mean, clearly basic TV sucks and has done so for years, and there are no timeless shows or sitcoms anymore, but the fact is that I'd happily ditch my TV if it weren't just as affordable to bundle it with decent internet access (I don't live in a technologically-advanced area). If I want TV, I'd go watch old reruns of MASH or something with actual feeling and emotion in some of the episodes.
 
2013-02-07 02:28:46 AM
/here come the people screaming about the greatness of Glee or whatever garbage is on TV right now
//slightly more picky sheeple, the lot of you
 
2013-02-07 02:29:38 AM
Of course, yes, there are actually things on cable that are not half-bad.

I just think things were better 5-10 years ago or so.
 
2013-02-07 02:32:52 AM

Mock26: The sponsored links suck syphilitic donkey balls.  Not being able to discuss them is just cowardly.  And schiatty.  Really schiatty.


Last time we had sponsored threads they always turned into a discussion of exactly how shiatty Jose Cuervo tequila is. Weve all seen Waynes World, you dont mock the sponsor.

I dont have adblock because i like supporting the sites i visit, but ive already completely tuned out these new inline ads. Just dont look, its only some shiatty buzzfeed "article" that for some reason is sponsored by Geico or somebody, i probably wouldnt be interested enough to click it anyway if it were just a regular submission.
 
2013-02-07 02:41:32 AM
"...consuming something that was never aimed at me, from a time and a place I have no connection with..."

You mean like, oh, Beethoven's 9th Symphony? Or, for that matter, Mary Had a Little Lamb? Yeah, this is something really new. Not.
 
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