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(Daily Mail)   German neurologist claims to have found the area of the brain where evil lurks in killers, rapists and robbers. This is not a movie plot   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 184
    More: Scary, German government, developmental disorder, genetic predisposition, antisocial behavior, completely normal, serotonin, rapists, personality disorders  
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2013-02-06 10:29:13 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

impressive, tell me more...........
 
2013-02-06 10:29:39 PM  
put eugenics back in play and you'll remove most of the unwanted element in short time. continue to let scum run amuck and enjoy your Idiocracy.
 
2013-02-06 10:30:28 PM  
To all those discussing The Shadow, Kent Allard, Lamont Cranston, et. al., I say this:

"Paging Dr. Clark Savage Jr, paging Dr. Clark Savage Jr..."

/Remember Doc's Crime College?
 
2013-02-06 10:30:48 PM  
Interesting.
 
2013-02-06 10:31:01 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: No, you'll only anger it further!


FOR SCIENCE!!!

Darth_Lukecash: What's your favorite color?


Gre... HEY, WAIT A MINUTE
 
2013-02-06 10:31:02 PM  

KrispyKritter: put eugenics back in play and you'll remove most of the unwanted element in short time. continue to let scum run amuck and enjoy your Idiocracy.


Quit yer complaining, we already have abortion, easy access to contraceptives, and laws against inbreeding.
 
2013-02-06 10:32:01 PM  

rev. dave: FTFA:"He says his researches have led him to believe that some criminals have a 'genetic predisposition' to violence."


No no NO...  That is absolutely dangerous to talk about, he should know better.  People will use it as an excuse to both commit violence and as a reason to punish the innocent.  

Who you are is not determined by your genes, it is your environment and experiences.  You can activate or deactivate the expression of genes by how you live your life.


Hmmm... like with homosexuality perhaps?
 
2013-02-06 10:32:49 PM  
lack of warmth: mentally ill and we did nothing

As a society, we are still doing nothing.
 
2013-02-06 10:36:42 PM  
Put on the Beethoven and get the eye dropper.
 
2013-02-06 10:38:38 PM  
You're tourists?
 
2013-02-06 10:39:09 PM  
A) This is the most unscientific bullshiat I've read in a while. 'Good' and 'evil' are judgement values, not measurable phenomenon.

B) It is more than likely that some people do not feel sympathetic reactions to human pain, and that this is an inborn trait. It probably does correlate highly to the rates of criminal activity a person will commit in their lifetime. It is, however, never going to be more than a high correlation, and expect the correlation to not be anywhere near as high on a large scale, because society already handles this by basically saying 'behave or we throw your ass in jail'.
 
2013-02-06 10:44:32 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: The next logical step: jabbing that area of the brain with a sharp stick.

Seems we've been down this road before.

Still, I would rather have s bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy!


Dad, get off the computer.
 
2013-02-06 10:45:08 PM  

Roto-Rot: You're tourists?


And I just found my B
 
2013-02-06 10:47:12 PM  
Perhaps they could find a way to rewire that portion of the brain to improve cognitive function?
 
2013-02-06 10:47:39 PM  

KrispyKritter: put eugenics back in play and you'll remove most of the unwanted element in short time. continue to let scum run amuck and enjoy your Idiocracy.


Yeah it's too bad Hitler put the kibosh on the whole eugenics thing by adding the murdering. We'd be living in a much nicer world with a little selective breeding.
 
2013-02-06 10:48:53 PM  
I can just imagine what will be taking place in the next 10 years after they find the part of the brain that defines whether or not someone is homosexual.  Kids going to school will have a brain scan.  Those with the criminal brains get sent to get lobotomies.  Those that are homosexual are treated as such:  Each boy gets a "Big Brother" gay guy and each girl gets a "Big Sister" lesbian, both of which will happily pound the homosexual lifestyle into the kid.  The rest will be forced to watch reality TV until there is no activity recorded in their brain scans.
 
2013-02-06 10:52:43 PM  

PsiChick: A) This is the most unscientific bullshiat I've read in a while. 'Good' and 'evil' are judgement values, not measurable phenomenon.


The predominant moral school of thought disagrees with your position. So do the vast majority of people when interviewed.
 
2013-02-06 10:55:09 PM  

rev. dave: FTFA:"He says his researches have led him to believe that some criminals have a 'genetic predisposition' to violence."

Who you are is not determined by your genes, it is your environment and experiences.  You can activate or deactivate the expression of genes by how you live your life.


Bullshiat.

The environment won't add to, or take away, anything not already in the genes. We've seen this in animals AND humans, but any time you mention "genes" and "humans" in the same sentence, the pussy patrol screams "racism/NAZI!!!!!".

Try to train a working dog from a shiatty line, or no line. While it is possible to find some random dog with the genetic material to do the work, the odds improve dramatically when you source dogs from proven lines. Same thing with race horses / dogs / bulls etc...


Capabilities and limitations are all in the genes, and it is the environment that allows an organism to exhibit them.
 
2013-02-06 10:55:48 PM  
Is he sure it's not his finger covering it up?

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\hot
 
2013-02-06 10:56:44 PM  
What if all mental illness corresponds to physical structures and all crime is caused by mental illness? Punishing criminals as though they had made an intentional wrong choice from among the same options that a person who didn't commit the crime had would seem inappropriate.
 
2013-02-06 11:03:05 PM  

1. Put snakes on plane: PsiChick: A) This is the most unscientific bullshiat I've read in a while. 'Good' and 'evil' are judgement values, not measurable phenomenon.

The predominant moral school of thought disagrees with your position. So do the vast majority of people when interviewed.


Let me rephrase. They are not measurable phenomenon  in the context of scientific learning, especially since one culture's 'evil' is another culture's 'WTF, why do you not do that, don't you know the gods will hit you with a lightning bolt for not doing it you heathen'.
 
2013-02-06 11:07:38 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-06 11:09:35 PM  

PsiChick: 1. Put snakes on plane: PsiChick: A) This is the most unscientific bullshiat I've read in a while. 'Good' and 'evil' are judgement values, not measurable phenomenon.

The predominant moral school of thought disagrees with your position. So do the vast majority of people when interviewed.

Let me rephrase. They are not measurable phenomenon  in the context of scientific learning, especially since one culture's 'evil' is another culture's 'WTF, why do you not do that, don't you know the gods will hit you with a lightning bolt for not doing it you heathen'.


Human sacrifice comes to mind.
 
2013-02-06 11:13:14 PM  
The Shadow Knows
 
2013-02-06 11:13:15 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: The next logical step: jabbing that area of the brain with a sharp stick.

Seems we've been down this road before.

Still, I would rather have s bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy!


Why? As long as the lobotomy is in front of you it shouldn't matter t o you one bit. As long as you don't have the frontal lobotomy you're good.
 
2013-02-06 11:19:57 PM  

Sgygus: lack of warmth: mentally ill and we did nothing

As a society, we are still doing nothing.


I know, I am just worried about when they are coming for me.
 
2013-02-06 11:21:58 PM  
What a German Neurologist might look like:

filmdump.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-06 11:23:14 PM  

lack of warmth: Sgygus: lack of warmth: mentally ill and we did nothing

As a society, we are still doing nothing.

I know, I am just worried about when they are coming for me.


First they came for the redditors, and I did not speak out, for I was not a redditor...
 
2013-02-06 11:23:21 PM  
Quick!  Send in the J. Lo.!stacheandstiletto.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-06 11:23:44 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: The next logical step: jabbing that area of the brain with a sharp stick.



Sharp stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against sharp sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you, eh?

Well, I'll tell you something, my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me!

Now, the passion fruit. When your assailant lunges at you with a passion fruit...
 
2013-02-06 11:26:36 PM  

ciberido: Now, the passion fruit. When your assailant lunges at you with a passion fruit...


AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
 
2013-02-06 11:27:38 PM  

Nuclear Monk: Quick!  Send in the J. Lo.![stacheandstiletto.files.wordpress.com image 640x425]


That movie kind of sucked but it had some great visuals.
 
2013-02-06 11:28:48 PM  
images2.wikia.nocookie.net

Hi.
 
2013-02-06 11:29:51 PM  
Should be straightforward with an ice pick. Plenty of literature on this.

cdn-www.cracked.com
 
2013-02-06 11:30:30 PM  
i remember they said something similar when they where jabbing needles into your eye, and or electrocuting the fark out of your brain.

then they scream "TADA" hes docile, and drooling, and cant write... or keep a conversation, but hes not aggressive anymore TADA.

fark that pseudo science, there is a reason they call them qwaks.
 
2013-02-06 11:32:26 PM  
Frowned at article and didn't read. Which line do you get in for the govt mandated lobotomies?
 
2013-02-06 11:34:06 PM  

dv-ous: [images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 292x286]

Hi.


We just need some nanoprobes.
 
2013-02-06 11:38:59 PM  

Sgygus: Beware, tfa is Godwinned.


Argentina ?
 
2013-02-06 11:39:56 PM  
I WORK ALONE!
 
2013-02-06 11:41:16 PM  

boinkingbill: :  Each boy gets a "Big Brother" gay guy


The boy can call him father and since they are altering the boys views into what they will be we can call the kid an alter boy.
 
2013-02-06 11:41:28 PM  
Could it be a parasite or an infection?

That would explain so much.
 
2013-02-06 11:41:35 PM  
Making a claim like that takes a lot of gall.
www.skepdic.com
 
2013-02-06 11:44:52 PM  
Yeah, I see a methodological problem.

This guy was studying German brains. He found that German murderers' brains are evil and uncaring.

But all Germans are evil and uncaring.

Basically he invented a test to detect Germans.
 
2013-02-06 11:45:23 PM  

PsiChick: 1. Put snakes on plane: PsiChick: A) This is the most unscientific bullshiat I've read in a while. 'Good' and 'evil' are judgement values, not measurable phenomenon.

The predominant moral school of thought disagrees with your position. So do the vast majority of people when interviewed.

Let me rephrase. They are not measurable phenomenon  in the context of scientific learning, especially since one culture's 'evil' is another culture's 'WTF, why do you not do that, don't you know the gods will hit you with a lightning bolt for not doing it you heathen'.


You don't need to rephrase. You're obviously talking about moral relativism. Sam Harris addresses the science of morality directly in his books, and there's a plethora of moral realists from Plato to Boyd who explain why moral ambiguity is meaningless. We can measure it in absolute terms--x is morally wrong, true or not--or through a sort of hybridization with negative utility (two murders is twice as bad as one), but whatever our method, it is measurable.
 
2013-02-06 11:45:38 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Mugato: How'd I know he'd be German?

That Doctor Krieger *is* incorrigible, isn't he?


Also Yes.
 
2013-02-06 11:46:33 PM  
I would be interested to see if that area of the brain lights up in flyover states when you mention transvaginal ultrasound.
 
2013-02-06 11:47:37 PM  

1. Put snakes on plane: PsiChick: 1. Put snakes on plane: PsiChick: A) This is the most unscientific bullshiat I've read in a while. 'Good' and 'evil' are judgement values, not measurable phenomenon.

The predominant moral school of thought disagrees with your position. So do the vast majority of people when interviewed.

Let me rephrase. They are not measurable phenomenon  in the context of scientific learning, especially since one culture's 'evil' is another culture's 'WTF, why do you not do that, don't you know the gods will hit you with a lightning bolt for not doing it you heathen'.

You don't need to rephrase. You're obviously talking about moral relativism. Sam Harris addresses the science of morality directly in his books, and there's a plethora of moral realists from Plato to Boyd who explain why moral ambiguity is meaningless. We can measure it in absolute terms--x is morally wrong, true or not--or through a sort of hybridization with negative utility (two murders is twice as bad as one), but whatever our method, it is measurable.


I don't think it's so hard to generalize things sufficiently to find an area. We call it the area that doesn't care about knowingly inflicting harm on others without their consent.  I feel like that's an area you could see light up or not when you are in the process of hurting another.
 
2013-02-06 11:48:57 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: To all those discussing The Shadow, Kent Allard, Lamont Cranston, et. al., I say this:

"Paging Dr. Clark Savage Jr, paging Dr. Clark Savage Jr..."

/Remember Doc's Crime College?


First thing I thought of. Although in Doc's case it was a "violence gland" in the brain...

/god I'm old
 
2013-02-06 11:49:29 PM  
I sometimes think with my little head...
en.korea.com
 
2013-02-06 11:50:48 PM  
Funny - just a few weeks ago they were trying to blame it on leaded gas.
 
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