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2013-02-06 07:45:24 PM

Orange-Pippin: I'm a farmer and I can tell you that nothing is wrong with the veggies. What is wrong is the individuals who are too cheap to have these for their field hands(see below), those who spray their fields with the midnight oil (seriously gross) and some who spray livestock manure in the fields when the crops are alreadymatured.


Can you explain what that means to a city slicker?

(I understand what burning the midnight oil is, but your context suggests a different meaning).
 
2013-02-06 07:46:54 PM

Solid State Vittles: There's a picture of leafy greens in the article just in case you were curious what murderers look like.


No, that's an army.

An army of murderers!
 
2013-02-06 07:51:48 PM
The idiots I work with use news like this to justify the way they eat.

On more than one occasion, a woman I work with who, no joke, weighs around 300 pounds has gone on and on about how she doesn't eat produce because of all the pesticides & e coli & such. She actually thinks the processed takeout and fast food she eats for every meal are better for you. And then acts like its a personal affront when someone has the *gall* to lose weight and/or keep it off.
 
2013-02-06 07:56:53 PM
I got mugged by a head of lettuce once.
 
2013-02-06 07:57:08 PM

Happy Hours: Orange-Pippin: I'm a farmer and I can tell you that nothing is wrong with the veggies. What is wrong is the individuals who are too cheap to have these for their field hands(see below), those who spray their fields with the midnight oil (seriously gross) and some who spray livestock manure in the fields when the crops are alreadymatured.

Can you explain what that means to a city slicker?

(I understand what burning the midnight oil is, but your context suggests a different meaning).


I've only ever heard the term "night soil" which is synonymous with unprocessed human-generated fertilizer.
 
2013-02-06 07:59:04 PM

Lusebagage: Sure, my leafy greens are killing me, meanwhile in reality, Heart Disease is the #1 killer in America, wonder what causes that?


Poor dental hygiene?
 
2013-02-06 07:59:46 PM
I'm super allergic to lettuce, and spinach and pretty much everything that is grown unless it's a bean, rice, corn or potato. No fruit, no nuts, no grains, no vegetables. It SUCKS!

/I've replaced them all with bacon. Bacon goes with almost anything.
//really
///I'm basically a meatatarian, not by choice.
 
2013-02-06 08:00:30 PM
I liked vegetables as a kid.
 
2013-02-06 08:05:00 PM

I should be in the kitchen: And then acts like its a personal affront when someone has the *gall* to lose weight and/or keep it off.


Makes sense.  She has probably had her gall removed.
 
2013-02-06 08:06:43 PM

boinkingbill: I got mugged by a head of lettuce once.


You should have had a pointed stick.
 
2013-02-06 08:06:44 PM

stainedglassdoll: Wash your veggies, people.


Haha, this.

My mother made me eat vegetables, but we grew them in our own garden and we didn't poop on them during harvest.
 
2013-02-06 08:18:58 PM

born_yesterday: On a diet.  My favorite new snack food is roasted kale chips.  One pound of kale, 2 tbsp olive oil, 2 tbsp fish sauce, garlic powder to taste.  Roast at 250 for 45 minutes; flip and roast 45 more minutes (your oven may vary; my chips burn at 275, even at shorter times).  Takes care of the salty, crunchy cravings.

Might also kill the bacteria.  I don't know; it's an oven, not an autoclave.


Gonna have to try this out. Have you tried any other leafy greens for it?
 
2013-02-06 08:22:19 PM
One of my earliest memories is sitting in the dirt picking baby lettuce out of the ground and eating them right there.  It was my grandad's garden, and when he saw me he said "your mother will kill me for this" and carried me off to be washed.  After that I demanded lettuce every time we visited.  I was a strange child.  Maybe I built up an immunity.

I always wash veggies but if you have a gin and tonic immediately after eating them it should make sure they're safe.  Vodak may do the trick also, and whisky certainly does.
 
2013-02-06 08:24:19 PM

Orange-Pippin: I'm a farmer and I can tell you that nothing is wrong with the veggies. What is wrong is the individuals who are too cheap to have these for their field hands(see below), those who spray their fields with the midnight oil (seriously gross) and some who spray livestock manure in the fields when the crops are alreadymatured.

/No I'm not kidding.

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Ugggggh. As much as I support local/family farms (or try to, since it's hard to tell where the produce came from sometimes), I sometimes think farmers should have to at least take basic competency tests for things like chemicals and waste handling. Around here they're not too bad, but I once saw the corn farmers up the valley out with the giant slurry-spreaders (think tanker truck with a sprinkler on it) in the pouring rain, merrily going about their day. It's like they never learned that water flows downhill, thus taking all their fertilizer with it.

Incidentally I met a young guy when I worked for (car part delivery co), who had just married and taken over the FIL's port-a-john business, and I credit him with probably drastically improving local field sanitation. Within two years they went from having a couple of trucks and a dozen units to probably at least fifty on site at any given time. Sanitation is a good thing.
 
2013-02-06 08:29:45 PM
Why so many dishes contain onions is beyond me. It is truly the devil's vegetable.
 
2013-02-06 08:34:10 PM

jclaggett: born_yesterday: On a diet.  My favorite new snack food is roasted kale chips.  One pound of kale, 2 tbsp olive oil, 2 tbsp fish sauce, garlic powder to taste.  Roast at 250 for 45 minutes; flip and roast 45 more minutes (your oven may vary; my chips burn at 275, even at shorter times).  Takes care of the salty, crunchy cravings.

Might also kill the bacteria.  I don't know; it's an oven, not an autoclave.

Gonna have to try this out. Have you tried any other leafy greens for it?


Not yet.  I think it works with kale because it's a tougher, thicker leaf, and holds up when the water is cooked out.  My GF bought some more tender kale from Whole Foods, and the pieces cooked down to almost nothing (although it probably would have been better steamed than the tougher stuff).  You'll be amazed at how small it cooks down.  I'm not sure how much of the vitamins are retained after the cooking process, but it's got really high vitamin C and minerals.

/If you do try it, I usually break up the leaves into 2-3 inch pieces, and discard the stems. Not sure how the stems would turn out.
//I might just try it with other greens now, too.
 
2013-02-06 08:49:45 PM

jclaggett: Gonna have to try this out. Have you tried any other leafy greens for it?


This is basically deep frying in a slow oven.

Years ago I went to Spago (Wolfgang Puck's restaurant) and had a dish garnished with deep fried spinach leaves. I found his recipe and prepared it at home and was just as delicious, though I found you needed experience to pluck them out before they burned.

Sure they're tasty but I doubt much vegetable nutrients remain to overshadow the fat.
 
2013-02-06 08:50:40 PM
WSJ will run another editorial whining that we don't expose all food to plutonium.
 
2013-02-06 09:47:57 PM
Figures this comes out right when I moved to a more plant based diet. Sill eat meat but in limited quantities.

Tired of being fat and want to actually live life.

Pass me the darn green juice.
 
2013-02-06 10:22:36 PM
My mom poured Hershey's syrup on broccoli once to see if I'd like it.

/yeah, not so much
//good thing it didn't ruin my love for chocolate
///chocolate's a fruit, right?
 
2013-02-06 10:25:06 PM

Solid State Vittles: There's a picture of leafy greens in the article just in case you were curious what murderers look like.


The fark did you just call me?
 
2013-02-06 10:33:01 PM

Happy Hours: born_yesterday: On a diet.  My favorite new snack food is roasted kale chips.  One pound of kale, 2 tbsp olive oil, 2 tbsp fish sauce, garlic powder to taste.  Roast at 250 for 45 minutes; flip and roast 45 more minutes (your oven may vary; my chips burn at 275, even at shorter times).  Takes care of the salty, crunchy cravings.

You mean I gotta wait 90 minutes (excluding any prep time) just to satisfy the munchies when I can rip open a bag of Dorito's in about a second?

I'll starve by then!


I make kale chips this way:
Kale Chips
Timing is crucial for these chips: too long and they taste burned, two short and they are chewy rather than crispy.

IngredientsInstructionsPreheat the oven to 350F. Wash kale and cut into two-inch pieces. (Try to make the pieces all the same size or they will not cook at the same rate.) Spray a baking sheet with oil and place the pieces of kale on it in a single layer. Spray lightly with oil, if desired, and sprinkle with salt.Bake for 7 minutes. Turn the chips over and bake for 3-7 more minutes, until crispy and edges just beginning to brown. Cool and eat.Preparation time:  10 minute(s)| Cooking time:  10 minute(s)

Number of servings (yield):2

Makes 2 servings. Per serving:  25 Calories (kcal); trace Total Fat; (10% calories from fat); 2g Protein; 5g Carbohydrate; 0mg Cholesterol; 22mg Sodium; 1g Fiber. Weight Watchers Core / 0 Points.

Easy and everyone I've given them to likes them from big eaters to a very picky eater who professes to hate veggies. I'm not vegan but a lot of my meals are vegetarian/vegan because I just don't eat a lot of meat and still want a rounded diet going on.
 
2013-02-06 10:35:47 PM

kaseyfarksdaladies: My mom poured Hershey's syrup on broccoli once to see if I'd like it.

/yeah, not so much
//good thing it didn't ruin my love for chocolate
///chocolate's a fruit, right?


Every had roasted broccoli with olive oil? Very good and cheap. I realized I didn't hate vegetables when people stop slathering dressing on it (hate that) or boiling the ever loving flavor out of them (and canned, which you just shouldn't be used as a substitute).
 
2013-02-06 10:37:00 PM
No she wasn't.  My mom knew how to wash the produce before putting it away in the fridge, much less giving it to us.
 
2013-02-06 10:41:20 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: No she wasn't.  My mom knew how to wash the produce before putting it away in the fridge, much less giving it to us.


Oh, that reminds me. Does no one wash their produce? I remember being horrified by my roommates and  coworkers when they asked why I was washing my fruits and vegetables. Is this not common? I mean I like organic crap as much the next person (only if it tastes good and is worth the goddess damned price), but pesticides people, germs, dirt, bug poop. I mean, i know I'm eating that (and in organic crap) but I can at least reduce it somewhat.
 
2013-02-06 11:00:49 PM
Maggie_Luna: Oh, that reminds me. Does no one wash their produce? I remember being horrified by my roommates and  coworkers when they asked why I was washing my fruits and vegetables. Is this not common? I mean I like organic crap as much the next person (only if it tastes good and is worth the goddess damned price), but pesticides people, germs, dirt, bug poop. I mean, i know I'm eating that (and in organic crap) but I can at least reduce it somewhat.

Do you use Veggie Wash?  Or do you just rinse it?   Washing produce won't remove e-coli, or other bacteria, but it will help with pesticides and contaminants.
 
2013-02-06 11:03:40 PM

Maggie_Luna: Happy Hours: born_yesterday: On a diet.  My favorite new snack food is roasted kale chips.  One pound of kale, 2 tbsp olive oil, 2 tbsp fish sauce, garlic powder to taste.  Roast at 250 for 45 minutes; flip and roast 45 more minutes (your oven may vary; my chips burn at 275, even at shorter times).  Takes care of the salty, crunchy cravings.

You mean I gotta wait 90 minutes (excluding any prep time) just to satisfy the munchies when I can rip open a bag of Dorito's in about a second?

I'll starve by then!

I make kale chips this way:
Kale Chips
Timing is crucial for these chips: too long and they taste burned, two short and they are chewy rather than crispy.

IngredientsInstructionsPreheat the oven to 350F. Wash kale and cut into two-inch pieces. (Try to make the pieces all the same size or they will not cook at the same rate.) Spray a baking sheet with oil and place the pieces of kale on it in a single layer. Spray lightly with oil, if desired, and sprinkle with salt.Bake for 7 minutes. Turn the chips over and bake for 3-7 more minutes, until crispy and edges just beginning to brown. Cool and eat.Preparation time:  10 minute(s)| Cooking time:  10 minute(s)

Number of servings (yield):2

Makes 2 servings. Per serving:  25 Calories (kcal); trace Total Fat; (10% calories from fat); 2g Protein; 5g Carbohydrate; 0mg Cholesterol; 22mg Sodium; 1g Fiber. Weight Watchers Core / 0 Points.

Easy and everyone I've given them to likes them from big eaters to a very picky eater who professes to hate veggies. I'm not vegan but a lot of my meals are vegetarian/vegan because I just don't eat a lot of meat and still want a rounded diet going on.


I think the "spray lightly with oil if desired" step was left out in the "total fat" calculations. These oven baked deep frying recipes don't work with out a lot of fat.

My fat sister, whenever I visit and she cooks a home-cooked meal always follows a "healthy" recipe. However she winds up "fixing" it - 1tsp honey is not enough to taste so she adds 5 tablespoons,  1/2 teaspoon oil doesn't work but 3 or 4 tablespoons does.

She may be deluding herself with her "healthy" recipes but not those who witness her cooking.
 
2013-02-06 11:11:37 PM

HairBolus: Maggie_Luna: Happy Hours: born_yesterday: On a diet.  My favorite new snack food is roasted kale chips.  One pound of kale, 2 tbsp olive oil, 2 tbsp fish sauce, garlic powder to taste.  Roast at 250 for 45 minutes; flip and roast 45 more minutes (your oven may vary; my chips burn at 275, even at shorter times).  Takes care of the salty, crunchy cravings.

You mean I gotta wait 90 minutes (excluding any prep time) just to satisfy the munchies when I can rip open a bag of Dorito's in about a second?

I'll starve by then!

I make kale chips this way:
Kale Chips
Timing is crucial for these chips: too long and they taste burned, two short and they are chewy rather than crispy.

IngredientsInstructionsPreheat the oven to 350F. Wash kale and cut into two-inch pieces. (Try to make the pieces all the same size or they will not cook at the same rate.) Spray a baking sheet with oil and place the pieces of kale on it in a single layer. Spray lightly with oil, if desired, and sprinkle with salt.Bake for 7 minutes. Turn the chips over and bake for 3-7 more minutes, until crispy and edges just beginning to brown. Cool and eat.Preparation time:  10 minute(s)| Cooking time:  10 minute(s)

Number of servings (yield):2

Makes 2 servings. Per serving:  25 Calories (kcal); trace Total Fat; (10% calories from fat); 2g Protein; 5g Carbohydrate; 0mg Cholesterol; 22mg Sodium; 1g Fiber. Weight Watchers Core / 0 Points.

Easy and everyone I've given them to likes them from big eaters to a very picky eater who professes to hate veggies. I'm not vegan but a lot of my meals are vegetarian/vegan because I just don't eat a lot of meat and still want a rounded diet going on.

I think the "spray lightly with oil if desired" step was left out in the "total fat" calculations. These oven baked deep frying recipes don't work with out a lot of fat.

My fat sister, whenever I visit and she cooks a home-cooked meal always follows a "healthy" recipe. However she winds up "fixing" it - 1tsp honey is not enou ...


Oh, yeah it's still chips. I add a bit of oil because I like olive oil. You have to find the right balance of "Holy hell" and "Just right." A light spraying of it tastes fine too, you don't want to drench them (I've done that on accident and while they tasted good to me they certainly didn't spring healthy to mind). I still think it's better than Doritos or what have you. You can calculate your own crap but compared to the other recipe (90 minutes really?) it works well for good chips that aren't grody.  How do you fix something with honey? Seriously, honey does not bring healthy to mind. It brings out honey, sweetener. Unless you mean that unpurified one that has to have the beneficial bacteria.

I hate honey (as in the taste) so avoid it flat out unless it is in things (like bread) where it's an ingredient and isn't the ingredient but won't make it myself.
 
2013-02-07 12:00:25 AM
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2013-02-07 12:26:39 AM

Maggie_Luna: Easy and everyone I've given them to likes them from big eaters to a very picky eater who professes to hate veggies. I'm not vegan but a lot of my meals are vegetarian/vegan because I just don't eat a lot of meat and still want a rounded diet going on.

I think the "spray lightly with oil if desired" step was left out in the "total fat" calculations. These oven baked deep frying recipes don't work with out a lot of fat.

My fat sister, whenever I visit and she cooks a home-cooked meal always follows a "healthy" recipe. However she winds up "fixing" it - 1tsp honey is not enou ...

Oh, yeah it's still chips. I add a bit of oil because I like olive oil. You have to find the right balance of "Holy hell" and "Just right." A light spraying of it tastes fine too, you don't want to drench them (I've done that on accident and while they tasted good to me they certainly didn't spring healthy to mind). I still think it's better than Doritos or what have you. You can calculate your own crap but compared to the other recipe (90 minutes really?) it works well for good chips that aren't grody. How do you fix something with honey? Seriously, honey does not bring healthy to mind. It brings out honey, sweetener. Unless you mean that unpurified one that has to have the beneficial bacteria.

I hate honey (as in the taste) so avoid it flat out unless it is in things (like bread) where it's an ingredient and isn't the ingredient but won't make it myself.


Listen TOOTs, you need to learn how to trim quotes so they are not cut off by the FARK quote limit and omit what your are responding to.

My fat sister's honey increment (1sp to 5 tablespoons) was for a "Healthy Hawaiian Chicken Teryaki" recipe and yes in such a recipe the tastes of honey, ginger, garlic, and soy can go well together though not when the amount of honey is increased by 15 so she can "taste" it.
 
2013-02-07 01:46:42 AM

kaseyfarksdaladies: My mom poured Hershey's syrup on broccoli once to see if I'd like it.

/yeah, not so much
//good thing it didn't ruin my love for chocolate
///chocolate's a fruit, right?


...it IS a bean...
 
2013-02-07 02:56:10 AM
Jesus don`t need to wash his hands.
 
2013-02-07 04:17:21 AM

kaseyfarksdaladies: My mom poured Hershey's syrup on broccoli once to see if I'd like it.

/yeah, not so much
//good thing it didn't ruin my love for chocolate
///chocolate's a fruit, right?


My new step-mother gave me a set of fancy flavored salts from Trader Joes for Christmas, and the 'edible flowers' one actually tastes pretty darn good on green beans. Haven't tried other veggies but I suspect it will have broad appeal. That's a relief actually, since I wasn't sure what I was going to do with that one...
 
2013-02-07 04:37:18 AM
You can pry my raw cookie dough from my cold, dead hands.

Except you can't, because I guess I will have vomited it all up in my death throes. It will have been worth it.
 
2013-02-07 05:03:50 AM
Damn I knew it!
 
2013-02-07 07:49:35 AM
Actually, pesticides are waterproof guys, so you have to use soap to get rid of them.  Despite what you may think just plain old water can help with germs, but it doesn't get ALL of them.  You still have to have an immune system.
 
2013-02-07 08:23:22 AM

uncleacid: I get my grains from beer and vegetables from vodka.


I see you follow my diet plan
 
2013-02-07 09:49:24 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I think she shared hers with one of her boyfriends.


Giggity?
 
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