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(Huffington Post)   SPOILER: "Lincoln" may have been historically inaccurate   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 38
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2013-02-06 05:24:05 PM  
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2013-02-06 05:25:02 PM  
So, the part when Lincoln grabbed the M-16 out of Both's had and blew his head off... dumping Booth's body into the audience below at the Ford Theater shouting "BOOYAA MUTHER F*CKER!!" wasn't accurate?
 
2013-02-06 05:25:11 PM  
Yeah we all know the vampires would have won.
 
2013-02-06 05:25:25 PM  
HE'S STILL ALIVE?!
 
2013-02-06 05:25:44 PM  

Surool: So, the part when Lincoln grabbed the M-16 out of Both's had and blew his head off... dumping Booth's body into the audience below at the Ford Theater shouting "BOOYAA MUTHER F*CKER!!" wasn't accurate?


Sorry, SPOLER ALERT!
 
2013-02-06 05:28:09 PM  
 
2013-02-06 05:37:28 PM  
A historical movie takes liberties with liberty? Oh, shiat, say it ain't so!
 
2013-02-06 05:38:35 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: A historical movie takes liberties with liberty history? Oh, shiat, say it ain't so!


There, FTFM.
 
2013-02-06 05:39:48 PM  

Car_Ramrod: HE'S STILL ALIVE?!


He's fine, Ralph.

Go home, Ralph.
 
2013-02-06 05:42:36 PM  
what about lincoln's gold, and does his ghost still haunt the white house?
 
2013-02-06 05:45:51 PM  

farbekrieg: what about lincoln's gold, and does his ghost still haunt the white house?


Yes, but he can only possess things with his face of them.
 
2013-02-06 05:47:18 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: Historically Accurate


I was not aware that President Lincoln exercised such poor trigger discipline.
 
2013-02-06 05:47:25 PM  
Actually, after Booth shot him, he humped the head wound while whistling Dixie.
 
2013-02-06 06:02:08 PM  
You just wait for Lincoln 2, where Lincoln comes back as a harrowed and Alan Pinkerton has to hunt down that evil mother farker before he can summon the four horseman of the apocalypse.
 
2013-02-06 06:05:09 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: farbekrieg: what about lincoln's gold, and does his ghost still haunt the white house?

Yes, but he can only possess things with his face of them.


also dean!

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2013-02-06 06:05:38 PM  
I know this is Farkd and you're just supposed to skip the article and make obvious jokes based on the headline, but I'm surprised by this inaccuracy. Obviously, when you're making a film about something that happened 150 years ago, you're going to have to fill in the gaps and maybe even add some details for dramatic effect. But when the subject is something of historical significance, I think you should keep the facts that are known intact. I guess Spielberg is no Michael Moore when it comes to fact checking.
 
2013-02-06 06:07:58 PM  
But the part where he killed those vampires was true, right?
 
2013-02-06 06:25:33 PM  
Yeah, we all (except liberal Hollywood) know Lincoln was gay.  And Muslim.  And a Maoist.  And weirdly to slaveowners.
 
2013-02-06 06:41:42 PM  
"Lincoln" was a really good movie that completely fumbled the ending. I guess when the audience knows what is going to happen to the lead character, you try to put your own spin on it as a director... but Spielberg really botched it IMHO.
 
2013-02-06 06:47:51 PM  

Uncle Pooky: "Lincoln" was a really good movie that completely fumbled the ending. I guess when the audience knows what is going to happen to the lead character, you try to put your own spin on it as a director... but Spielberg really botched it IMHO.


Plus they missed the part where Lincoln wanted to send slaves back to Africa because he was shrewd enough to foresee inner cities.
 
2013-02-06 06:51:08 PM  

Uncle Pooky: "Lincoln" was a really good movie that completely fumbled the ending. I guess when the audience knows what is going to happen to the lead character, you try to put your own spin on it as a director... but Spielberg really botched it IMHO.


SPOILER ALERT

Out of curiosity, how would you have ended it? Lincoln comes back to life as Lincoln Christ (hey, his name IS Abraham)? I thought revealing that he was shot the way the film did was moving, more so than if they had shown it happen.
 
2013-02-06 07:11:19 PM  

Uncle Pooky: "Lincoln" was a really good movie that completely fumbled the ending. I guess when the audience knows what is going to happen to the lead character, you try to put your own spin on it as a director... but Spielberg really botched it IMHO.


Sort of like "Titanic".  It sinks, right?

/haven't seen either movie...
 
2013-02-06 07:11:41 PM  
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2013-02-06 07:37:10 PM  

farbekrieg: what about lincoln's gold


Why that LYING... RAIL-SPLITTING... THEATER-GOING FREAK!
 
2013-02-06 08:53:25 PM  

treesloth: Uncle Pooky: "Lincoln" was a really good movie that completely fumbled the ending. I guess when the audience knows what is going to happen to the lead character, you try to put your own spin on it as a director... but Spielberg really botched it IMHO.

Sort of like "Titanic".  It sinks, right?

/haven't seen either movie...

SPOILER ALERT
In the movie version of Titanic Jack draws an old timey cartoon ship that comes to life through the power of imagination and everyone is saved.
 
2013-02-06 09:50:33 PM  

NorCalLos: Uncle Pooky: "Lincoln" was a really good movie that completely fumbled the ending. I guess when the audience knows what is going to happen to the lead character, you try to put your own spin on it as a director... but Spielberg really botched it IMHO.

SPOILER ALERT

Out of curiosity, how would you have ended it? Lincoln comes back to life as Lincoln Christ (hey, his name IS Abraham)? I thought revealing that he was shot the way the film did was moving, more so than if they had shown it happen.


I wouldn't have shown it happening either. Honestly, showing Lincoln leaving for Ford's Theater would have been a pretty good place to end it, since the audience knows where he's headed. Everything after that felt tacked on to me.

For me personally, if I'm in the chair? I would have started a long take in close on the Lincolns, and then slowly panned out to reveal they're in the theater box (probably would need to cut the scene showing him leaving). Continue to pan out slowly, getting farther away, with the (movie-going) audience knowing what's coming. As soon as the door behind Lincoln starts to open, cut to black.

It would have been more monumental, in my mind, for the audience to realize Lincoln is at Ford's Theater after he was already there. And Lincoln at Ford's Theater should have been where the movie stopped. The scene with the other theater was a cheap bait-and-switch, and the final speech was out of context.

/My $.02
 
2013-02-06 10:04:43 PM  
So Lincoln didn't send Jamie Foxx and Christoph Waltz in to kill everyone, ending the Civil War before it started?
 
2013-02-06 11:33:07 PM  

NorCalLos: Uncle Pooky: "Lincoln" was a really good movie that completely fumbled the ending. I guess when the audience knows what is going to happen to the lead character, you try to put your own spin on it as a director... but Spielberg really botched it IMHO.

SPOILER ALERT

Out of curiosity, how would you have ended it? Lincoln comes back to life as Lincoln Christ (hey, his name IS Abraham)? I thought revealing that he was shot the way the film did was moving, more so than if they had shown it happen.


The ending was Lincoln getting his hat from the butler and turning the corner of the hallway of the White House on his way to Ford's Theatre.  There was no reason to keep going beyond that point other than to shoehorn in "now he belongs to the ages" and some stirring words from a Lincoln speech as John Williams' strings poured on more syrup.
 
2013-02-06 11:35:28 PM  
I mean, it was hilarious when I read the article a couple weeks ago where Samuel L. Jackson of all people says the exact same thing, that Lincoln should've ended at DDL turning the corner after getting his hat and "though I'd like to stay, it's time for me to go."  I was like, "Fark, I said the same damn thing coming out of the theater!"
 
2013-02-07 12:13:09 AM  

Uncle Pooky: I wouldn't have shown it happening either. Honestly, showing Lincoln leaving for Ford's Theater would have been a pretty good place to end it, since the audience knows where he's headed. Everything after that felt tacked on to me.

For me personally, if I'm in the chair? I would have started a long take in close on the Lincolns, and then slowly panned out to reveal they're in the theater box (probably would need to cut the scene showing him leaving). Continue to pan out slowly, getting farther away, with the (movie-going) audience knowing what's coming. As soon as the door behind Lincoln starts to open, cut to black.

It would have been more monumental, in my mind, for the audience to realize Lincoln is at Ford's Theater after he was already there. And Lincoln at Ford's Theater should have been where the movie stopped. The scene with the other theater was a cheap bait-and-switch, and the final speech was out of context.

/My $.02


Your ending sounds pretty good, but I don't think it's any less cheap. It sounds like the end of a Michael Jackson video or something.
 
2013-02-07 01:16:32 AM  
He actually shot HIMSELF in the back of the head??
 
2013-02-07 03:08:23 AM  
Came for "Police Squad", leaving satisfied.
 
2013-02-07 08:37:36 AM  

Uncle Pooky: "Lincoln" was a really good movie that completely fumbled the ending. I guess when the audience knows what is going to happen to the lead character, you try to put your own spin on it as a director... but Spielberg really botched it IMHO.


It should have ended with Lincoln walking away to go to the theater.

/and what a weird thing to get wrong, the roll call should have been easy to do correctly
 
2013-02-07 09:40:12 AM  
I liked Lincoln a lot but I too felt the end of the movie was unnecessary.  The story of his assassination has been done, over and over.  It wasn't needed in this movie.  The fact that Spielberg used the theater bait-switch scene with the son shows that he is aware of this.  The first 90% of the movie wasn't really "Lincoln" as much as "How Lincoln Passed the 13th Amendment".  It should've ended with the ending of the war.
 
2013-02-07 01:28:33 PM  

Uncle Pooky: I wouldn't have shown it happening either. Honestly, showing Lincoln leaving for Ford's Theater would have been a pretty good place to end it, since the audience knows where he's headed. Everything after that felt tacked on to me.


robsul82: The ending was Lincoln getting his hat from the butler and turning the corner of the hallway of the White House on his way to Ford's Theatre.  There was no reason to keep going beyond that point other than to shoehorn in "now he belongs to the ages" and some stirring words from a Lincoln speech as John Williams' strings poured on more syrup.

Tyrone Slothrop: It should have ended with Lincoln walking away to go to the theater.


We are all smart.
 
2013-02-07 03:34:08 PM  

BATMANATEE: SPOILER ALERT
In the movie version of Titanic Jack draws an old timey cartoon ship that comes to life through the power of imagination and everyone is saved.


Woah.

My mind?

Blown.
 
2013-02-07 06:59:40 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: Came for "Police Squad", leaving satisfied.


right on brother!
 
2013-02-08 12:43:12 AM  

robsul82: NorCalLos: Uncle Pooky: "Lincoln" was a really good movie that completely fumbled the ending. I guess when the audience knows what is going to happen to the lead character, you try to put your own spin on it as a director... but Spielberg really botched it IMHO.

SPOILER ALERT

Out of curiosity, how would you have ended it? Lincoln comes back to life as Lincoln Christ (hey, his name IS Abraham)? I thought revealing that he was shot the way the film did was moving, more so than if they had shown it happen.

The ending was Lincoln getting his hat from the butler and turning the corner of the hallway of the White House on his way to Ford's Theatre.  There was no reason to keep going beyond that point other than to shoehorn in "now he belongs to the ages" and some stirring words from a Lincoln speech as John Williams' strings poured on more syrup.


Oh, so like the "tell me I was a good man" scene in Private Ryan
 
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