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2013-02-07 08:48:17 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: If I had to guess I'd say this rumor was floated to gauge reaction and plant the idea for the future, not because it's likely to actually happen, but it's sort of a moot point. It's inevitable that at some point some asshole company will try it and succeed.

I'm guessing Ubisoft since that name is pretty much as synonymous with "asshole" as it can get when it comes to insanely stupid DRM schemes.

Gamers are about as masochistic of consumers as you can get. They'll biatch and moan and scream about every damn little thing to everybody who will listen, but they'll never actually stop buying their digital crank no matter what happens.


Ubisoft is already doing it.  I got AC3 and before I could play Multiplayer I had to enter a number that came shipped with the game called my "Uplay Passport"   I'm guessing that if I resell the game, the next person cannot participate without paying 7 dollars.
 
2013-02-07 08:48:38 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Mikey1969: ...And fark this "always connected" bullshiat.

Yeah that gets to me more than the used games thing. My connection is spotty. It's bad enough when it interrupts netflix, but the idea that I can't play alone offline piques my nerd rage.


This, to me, is the very definition of 'nerd rage'.

/shakes my fist impotently
 
2013-02-07 09:12:30 AM
What's the over/under on how long it takes for someone to figure out a jailbreak?
 
2013-02-07 09:15:03 AM
MrSteve007:
/Oh, that's cute, OSX almost has 3% and Linux is up to nearly 1% of gamers these days. Sounds about right.

Nobody is surprised that MrBallmer007 is giggling.  Since Steam is a content delivery system and not a game, it's no surprise to anyone that Steam delivers the mountains of "Games for Windows".  If Steam offered these platforms something compelling other than the Orange Box these numbers might improve to something better than hovering at Windows Phone market share levels.  (Now that's cute).
 
2013-02-07 09:24:55 AM

Kazan: I love the smell of FUD in the morning.


Yep, I remember when this was the news for both Windows and Office.  Still waiting for that to happen.
 
2013-02-07 09:30:44 AM

MayoSlather: This wouldn't surprise me at all if it were true, as Microsoft has always been a dick when it comes to licensing and use. It always annoyed me that they charged for Xbox live and locked out stuff like Netflix without a gold account. That's shiatty Microsoft. The Sony offering is better where they offer a baseline of functionality for free and added content for a fee.


Sorry, when I see Sony's PSN go offline for over a month I'll gladly continue to play for Xbox Live.
 
2013-02-07 09:32:27 AM
BTW, I'd have more sympathy for Gamestop and other stores like it if I was able to walk into one and purchase a used Xbox controller for less than $45.  Uh, no.
 
2013-02-07 09:35:51 AM

red5ish: [img839.imageshack.us image 800x450]
Weaver95: Have you ever SEEN a gamer forum before!?

I think you are correct about console games taking it in the neck with the sort of restrictions and "improvements" the article is proposing. The average age of a video gamer is 37. If they wanted to jump around while playing a video game they would already own a Wii. Kinect technology is Microsoft's following an already saturated market. As far as one user only games, they are just begging to be hacked and defeated.




You are right. I am begging. FPS games only, though.

I have always enjoyed playing against aimbots.

/its a complement to be called a bot.
 
2013-02-07 09:38:20 AM

theurge14: BTW, I'd have more sympathy for Gamestop and other stores like it if I was able to walk into one and purchase a used Xbox controller for less than $45.  Uh, no.


Meh, quit yer biatching.
bpmforreal.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-07 10:02:23 AM

theurge14: BTW, I'd have more sympathy for Gamestop and other stores like it if I was able to walk into one and purchase a used Xbox controller for less than $45.  Uh, no.


That's why the good lord invented your local mom and pop trade in store. Look around, you have a few.
 
rpm
2013-02-07 10:28:50 AM

theurge14: BTW, I'd have more sympathy for Gamestop and other stores like it if I was able to walk into one and purchase a used Xbox controller for less than $45.  Uh, no.


Wait for sales. I got a new (wired) one for $20 for the computer. AC:R for $10 in the same sale.
 
hej
2013-02-07 10:45:03 AM
I love this entire thread.

RandomFarker: Raaaaggh! Now that there's some rumor about the next Xbox having DRM on it's games, everybody is going to switch to PC gaming where there is surely no DRM at all!
 
rpm
2013-02-07 10:58:06 AM

hej: I love this entire thread.

RandomFarker: Raaaaggh! Now that there's some rumor about the next Xbox having DRM on it's games, everybody is going to switch to PC gaming where there is surely no DRM at all!


I'm one of those that will not put up with DRM like this. I will be going to more PC gaming, because DRM, what DRM?
 
2013-02-07 11:13:45 AM

theurge14: MayoSlather: This wouldn't surprise me at all if it were true, as Microsoft has always been a dick when it comes to licensing and use. It always annoyed me that they charged for Xbox live and locked out stuff like Netflix without a gold account. That's shiatty Microsoft. The Sony offering is better where they offer a baseline of functionality for free and added content for a fee.

Sorry, when I see Sony's PSN go offline for over a month I'll gladly continue to play for Xbox Live.


If the article is true, then you feel fine in paying a monthly fee to play games that you "own"?  I'm glad someone is made of money.
 
2013-02-07 11:20:07 AM

kab: Or when this came out in '81... going for about 60-70 bucks street price:

/good god, I'm old.


I just realized that computer graphics are now better than the pictures on the old Atari cartridges.

My life is now complete.
 
2013-02-07 11:38:58 AM

PsyLord: theurge14: MayoSlather: This wouldn't surprise me at all if it were true, as Microsoft has always been a dick when it comes to licensing and use. It always annoyed me that they charged for Xbox live and locked out stuff like Netflix without a gold account. That's shiatty Microsoft. The Sony offering is better where they offer a baseline of functionality for free and added content for a fee.

Sorry, when I see Sony's PSN go offline for over a month I'll gladly continue to play for Xbox Live.

If the article is true, then you feel fine in paying a monthly fee to play games that you "own"?  I'm glad someone is made of money.


You do know you can get Xbox Live for free right?  You only pay if you want to play multiplayer, but you can get updates and use Live with the basic subscrption which if you have to be always online you can use the free version for that.
 
2013-02-07 11:46:59 AM

TNel: PsyLord: theurge14: MayoSlather: This wouldn't surprise me at all if it were true, as Microsoft has always been a dick when it comes to licensing and use. It always annoyed me that they charged for Xbox live and locked out stuff like Netflix without a gold account. That's shiatty Microsoft. The Sony offering is better where they offer a baseline of functionality for free and added content for a fee.

Sorry, when I see Sony's PSN go offline for over a month I'll gladly continue to play for Xbox Live.

If the article is true, then you feel fine in paying a monthly fee to play games that you "own"?  I'm glad someone is made of money.

You do know you can get Xbox Live for free right?  You only pay if you want to play multiplayer, but you can get updates and use Live with the basic subscrption which if you have to be always online you can use the free version for that.


Many if not most games have a multiplayer component.  So that means without a monthly fee you would be unable to use that part of the game that you have purchased.
 
2013-02-07 11:51:48 AM

PsyLord: TNel: PsyLord: theurge14: MayoSlather: This wouldn't surprise me at all if it were true, as Microsoft has always been a dick when it comes to licensing and use. It always annoyed me that they charged for Xbox live and locked out stuff like Netflix without a gold account. That's shiatty Microsoft. The Sony offering is better where they offer a baseline of functionality for free and added content for a fee.

Sorry, when I see Sony's PSN go offline for over a month I'll gladly continue to play for Xbox Live.

If the article is true, then you feel fine in paying a monthly fee to play games that you "own"?  I'm glad someone is made of money.

You do know you can get Xbox Live for free right?  You only pay if you want to play multiplayer, but you can get updates and use Live with the basic subscrption which if you have to be always online you can use the free version for that.

Many if not most games have a multiplayer component.  So that means without a monthly fee you would be unable to use that part of the game that you have purchased.


In this case you're paying 5 bucks a month for a higher tier of online connectivity.  You aren't paying for multiplayer for just one game.   You can stream your netflix, ESPN3, EPIX, Amazon Video, music stations etc...
 
2013-02-07 12:03:37 PM

Girion47: PsyLord: TNel: PsyLord: theurge14: MayoSlather: This wouldn't surprise me at all if it were true, as Microsoft has always been a dick when it comes to licensing and use. It always annoyed me that they charged for Xbox live and locked out stuff like Netflix without a gold account. That's shiatty Microsoft. The Sony offering is better where they offer a baseline of functionality for free and added content for a fee.

Sorry, when I see Sony's PSN go offline for over a month I'll gladly continue to play for Xbox Live.

If the article is true, then you feel fine in paying a monthly fee to play games that you "own"?  I'm glad someone is made of money.

You do know you can get Xbox Live for free right?  You only pay if you want to play multiplayer, but you can get updates and use Live with the basic subscrption which if you have to be always online you can use the free version for that.

Many if not most games have a multiplayer component.  So that means without a monthly fee you would be unable to use that part of the game that you have purchased.

In this case you're paying 5 bucks a month for a higher tier of online connectivity.  You aren't paying for multiplayer for just one game.   You can stream your netflix, ESPN3, EPIX, Amazon Video, music stations etc...


How about not wanting the "higher tier of online connectivity" and just normal online connectivity to other players that want to play the game with others online?  And for full disclosure, I have both the xbox 360 and ps3.  I do tend to play the xbox 360 more than the PS3 since I play with a people don't have both systems.  But if given the chance, I rather switch to the PS3 so I don't have to pay a monthly fee to access content that should be functional anyway since it came with the game.
 
2013-02-07 12:04:11 PM

PsyLord: TNel: PsyLord: theurge14: MayoSlather: This wouldn't surprise me at all if it were true, as Microsoft has always been a dick when it comes to licensing and use. It always annoyed me that they charged for Xbox live and locked out stuff like Netflix without a gold account. That's shiatty Microsoft. The Sony offering is better where they offer a baseline of functionality for free and added content for a fee.

Sorry, when I see Sony's PSN go offline for over a month I'll gladly continue to play for Xbox Live.

If the article is true, then you feel fine in paying a monthly fee to play games that you "own"?  I'm glad someone is made of money.

You do know you can get Xbox Live for free right?  You only pay if you want to play multiplayer, but you can get updates and use Live with the basic subscrption which if you have to be always online you can use the free version for that.

Many if not most games have a multiplayer component.  So that means without a monthly fee you would be unable to use that part of the game that you have purchased.


You complained that since the new xbox must be always connected that you then have to pay to just play the games you "own".  That would read that single player games.  If you are buying a multiplayer game then you already have Live.  I don't know of any pure multiplayer game for the xbox, Call of Duty still has local play of zombies and combat training so even that multiplayer game can fully be played without Gold Live.
 
2013-02-07 12:07:16 PM

PsyLord: Girion47: PsyLord: TNel: PsyLord: theurge14: MayoSlather: This wouldn't surprise me at all if it were true, as Microsoft has always been a dick when it comes to licensing and use. It always annoyed me that they charged for Xbox live and locked out stuff like Netflix without a gold account. That's shiatty Microsoft. The Sony offering is better where they offer a baseline of functionality for free and added content for a fee.

Sorry, when I see Sony's PSN go offline for over a month I'll gladly continue to play for Xbox Live.

If the article is true, then you feel fine in paying a monthly fee to play games that you "own"?  I'm glad someone is made of money.

You do know you can get Xbox Live for free right?  You only pay if you want to play multiplayer, but you can get updates and use Live with the basic subscrption which if you have to be always online you can use the free version for that.

Many if not most games have a multiplayer component.  So that means without a monthly fee you would be unable to use that part of the game that you have purchased.

In this case you're paying 5 bucks a month for a higher tier of online connectivity.  You aren't paying for multiplayer for just one game.   You can stream your netflix, ESPN3, EPIX, Amazon Video, music stations etc...

How about not wanting the "higher tier of online connectivity" and just normal online connectivity to other players that want to play the game with others online?  And for full disclosure, I have both the xbox 360 and ps3.  I do tend to play the xbox 360 more than the PS3 since I play with a people don't have both systems.  But if given the chance, I rather switch to the PS3 so I don't have to pay a monthly fee to access content that should be functional anyway since it came with the game.


You do realize you can play LAN and on your machine without paying for Live right?
 
2013-02-07 12:22:43 PM

whistleridge: GAT_00: FirstNationalBastard: The new X-Box will fail.

Not when Sony does the same thing.  Nintendo probably will too.

Yeah,,,not going to happen. Unlike a website paywall, which requires only a small investment and still doesn't pay off very well, this is a HUGE investment. And all the other guy has to do to kill you is say 'hey...no paywall'. End of game, right there.

No way this happens.


"More rumours suggest that Sony is going in the same direction as Microsoft in that it wants to <a data-cke-saved-href="http://www.techradar.com/us/news/gaming/sony-pate nt-hints-at-ps4-secon d-hand-games-snub-1122403">kill off the second hand games market. Current industry wisdom suggests that future PS4 games might be tied to your Sony Entertainment Network account and will thus then have no resale value. That's a similar approach as used by PC developers using Steam so we reckon this is a likely development. Doesn't mean we're happy about it, though. But again, perhaps will find out more on this side of things on February 20."

From this speculative article: http://www.techradar.com/us/news/gaming/consoles/ps4-release-date-new s -and-rumours-937822
 
2013-02-07 12:22:50 PM

PsyLord: TNel: PsyLord: theurge14: MayoSlather: This wouldn't surprise me at all if it were true, as Microsoft has always been a dick when it comes to licensing and use. It always annoyed me that they charged for Xbox live and locked out stuff like Netflix without a gold account. That's shiatty Microsoft. The Sony offering is better where they offer a baseline of functionality for free and added content for a fee.

Sorry, when I see Sony's PSN go offline for over a month I'll gladly continue to play for Xbox Live.

If the article is true, then you feel fine in paying a monthly fee to play games that you "own"?  I'm glad someone is made of money.

You do know you can get Xbox Live for free right?  You only pay if you want to play multiplayer, but you can get updates and use Live with the basic subscrption which if you have to be always online you can use the free version for that.

Many if not most games have a multiplayer component.  So that means without a monthly fee you would be unable to use that part of the game that you have purchased.


You also have to pay for XBOX Gold if you want to be able to use Hulu and Netflix on your 360. Otherwise, you're wasting $8 a month on a service you can't use.
 
2013-02-07 12:34:37 PM

ha-ha-guy: Antimatter: ha-ha-guy: Never happen.  Valve would (and likely is going to) just drop a gaming console based on *nix with commodity hardware and dominate the market.

Right, because that worked so well for 3do back in the day, and loads of major Pc releases are designed for Linux OS.

I'm a major steam gamer, but I'm not sure what the hell valve is thinking here.

First off the 3DO is an apple to oranges comparison for a number of reasons.  First off Panasonic didn't really have name brand appeal within in the gaming community.  People are much more likely to buy a Steam console due to a general trust in Valve not to screw them.

Secondly cross platform development doesn't have to be hard anymore.  If Valve rolls a well designed version of Linux for their console and dev tools to go with it, it is a lot different than Panasonic begging people to pick up a whole new platform and develop for it in 1993.  If Valve lays the foundation well, making it work on Valve Linux won't be hard.

/plus Valve can release its operating system for general download and instantly get market share since millions of people will download it and set up a dual boot on their PC
//Valve can release a beta, stick some of their games on it for free (or on trial) and suddenly have X% of the market share without ever shipping a piece of hardware.
/especially if they drop strong hits about launch day Half Life, Team Fortress, Left 4 Dead, and all the other IPs they control


I don't get Linux on the Steambox. I can build a decent Windows one myself for about $600 or buy for about $1,000.  It'll also do all my netflix, movies etc.  I'm worried my library won't run on their steambox if it runs Linux.  Or only a selection will.

This would be fun:

http://www.originpc.com/gaming/desktops/chronos/
 
2013-02-07 12:35:31 PM

gingerjet: grimlock1972: Well looks like i won't be buying the next gen Xbox then nor Sony's offering if they stick with this cockamamie idea.  Nintendo will never go for this so they will poised to take advantage if Sony and Microsoft shoot themselves in the foot.

Steam is great if you have a fast enough internet service to take advantage of it , i for one do not.

Which explains why Nintendo is taking over the market right now and destroying the competition.

Oh wait - no they are not - their brand new console is being buried by 10 year old boxes from Microsoft and Sony and there overall market share is dropping by the hour.

/this is the future dude - get over it


No, this is a scam.  This is the last gasp of the dinosaurs, trying desperately to jump out of the way of the meteor.  This is the console makers killing one of their biggest selling points for a nebulous chance at short-term gain.  This is industrial myopia.

You want the future?  The future looks more like this:

www.gadgetreview.com
 
2013-02-07 12:37:12 PM

dk47: ha-ha-guy: Antimatter: ha-ha-guy: Never happen.  Valve would (and likely is going to) just drop a gaming console based on *nix with commodity hardware and dominate the market.

Right, because that worked so well for 3do back in the day, and loads of major Pc releases are designed for Linux OS.

I'm a major steam gamer, but I'm not sure what the hell valve is thinking here.

First off the 3DO is an apple to oranges comparison for a number of reasons.  First off Panasonic didn't really have name brand appeal within in the gaming community.  People are much more likely to buy a Steam console due to a general trust in Valve not to screw them.

Secondly cross platform development doesn't have to be hard anymore.  If Valve rolls a well designed version of Linux for their console and dev tools to go with it, it is a lot different than Panasonic begging people to pick up a whole new platform and develop for it in 1993.  If Valve lays the foundation well, making it work on Valve Linux won't be hard.

/plus Valve can release its operating system for general download and instantly get market share since millions of people will download it and set up a dual boot on their PC
//Valve can release a beta, stick some of their games on it for free (or on trial) and suddenly have X% of the market share without ever shipping a piece of hardware.
/especially if they drop strong hits about launch day Half Life, Team Fortress, Left 4 Dead, and all the other IPs they control

I don't get Linux on the Steambox. I can build a decent Windows one myself for about $600 or buy for about $1,000.  It'll also do all my netflix, movies etc.  I'm worried my library won't run on their steambox if it runs Linux.  Or only a selection will.

This would be fun:

http://www.originpc.com/gaming/desktops/chronos/


If you're the type of person who can, and is willing to, build your own PC, you're really not the target audience for the Steambox.  Of course, you can just buy one anyway and install Windows on it, if you like, since it's all standard x86 PC hardware anyway.
 
2013-02-07 01:02:03 PM

Farking Canuck: The fact is that if the idiots would put proper keyboard and mouse controls on the damn things I would probably use one myself. The games I play are orders of magnitude better with the proper controls


There's one reason these "idiots" don't authorize official keyboard/mouse combos for consoles, and that's to keep it a level playing field. I love playing FPS games on my Xbox, but I'll be the first to admit that anyone with a keyboard/mouse would stomp me into the ground in a heartbeat if all I had was a controller. Hell I've messed with playing Counter-Strike on my PC with a corded 360 controller, and it was embarassing.

There are 3rd party peripherals that allow you to hook up a keyboard/mouse to a PS3/360, but otherwise you'll be waiting a very long time for an official Sony or Microsoft keyboard/mouse for their console.
 
2013-02-07 01:10:27 PM

Big_Fat_Liar: RoxtarRyan: ha-ha-guy: The carrot go install it would be the Linux version of Steam that offered exclusive features or titles the Windows 8 version of Steam lacked.

If they did that, then that is a prime example of one company trying to be the biggest douche they can. There is nothing in Win8 that stops Steam from functioning or working like Win7. I have it on my laptop, and Steam runs fine, no problems. This is them being pissy that MS is putting something with their OS that gives people another venue for purchasing 3rd party software. If anything else, that would drive people away from Steam to other companies like Direct2Drive, Gamers Gate, Amazon Game Downloads, etc. Why bother setting up a dual-boot to play games when there are companies who are more than happy to take your money without modifying your computer?

What drives me away from Steam is not being able to play games I already bought.   I pull out some old stuff like Battlefield 2142 and try to install it.  Of course I don't remember what  my username was from six years ago, so I have Steam email my username to my email which I luckily still have.  Then I go to log on and get some "fark you in the ass" error.  I'll go home and try it again - don't rememeber what the deal was exactly, but it was a circular string of shiat as I recall.  Total bullshiat.  In the future I'll just write down username and password information on the game manual - when I actually purchase physical media.


That's funny, what I like about steam is not having to keep track of a game I already bought ever again.  Ever.  They will all be there on every computer I ever own for the rest of my life.  It is genius.
 
2013-02-07 01:48:45 PM

scottydoesntknow: Farking Canuck: The fact is that if the idiots would put proper keyboard and mouse controls on the damn things I would probably use one myself. The games I play are orders of magnitude better with the proper controls

There's one reason these "idiots" don't authorize official keyboard/mouse combos for consoles, and that's to keep it a level playing field. make people buy their controllers (or licensed 3rd party controllers). I love playing FPS games on my Xbox, but I'll be the first to admit that anyone with a keyboard/mouse would stomp me into the ground in a heartbeat if all I had was a controller. Hell I've messed with playing Counter-Strike on my PC with a corded 360 controller, and it was embarassing.

There are 3rd party peripherals that allow you to hook up a keyboard/mouse to a PS3/360, but otherwise you'll be waiting a very long time for an official Sony or Microsoft keyboard/mouse for their console.


FTFY.  It's pretty easy to implement keyboard/mice since both systems do have USB ports (and in the case of the PS3, can also use bluetooth for wireless keyboards/mice).  The only reason that I can think of that they don't want to do that is so that they can sell their peripherals.  As far as evening out the playing field, you can restrict online matches to controllers only, etc.  Unreal Tournament 3 allowed for both controllers or keyboard/mouse and also allowed people to enable keyboard/mouse restrictions on online matches.
 
2013-02-07 02:54:57 PM
scottydoesntknow : There's one reason these "idiots" don't authorize official keyboard/mouse combos for consoles, and that's to keep it a level playing field. I love playing FPS games on my Xbox, but I'll be the first to admit that anyone with a keyboard/mouse would stomp me into the ground in a heartbeat if all I had was a controller.

Back in the days, I was a heavy quake 2 player (King of the Server, Rocket Arena, etc) and played at a competitive level.

Had my mouse sensitivity set to 60 (had to do it via the config file since the UI would only let you set it to around 20).

But now, I have a full time job and other pursuits, so now I'm content to just sit down and play on a console (I still max out the sensitivity though).

Because when it comes to desktop gaming, now I've got to say.

images5.fanpop.com

// my problem now (in halo 4) is finding team mates in my timezone that play at a comparable level (because the east coast guys have to go to bed about an hour after I get online). I also think they need to divide the really skilled players from the less skilled players. I've been in matches where I was slaughtered (because the other team knew what they were doing and my teammates didn't).

I've also been in matches (like the one below) where I am doing very well but am getting dragged down by teammates.

lordargent.com

How do you go 12/33 in the same match that I went 33/11 in?
 
2013-02-07 03:06:02 PM

RoxtarRyan: Big_Fat_Liar: What drives me away from Steam is not being able to play games I already bought.

The only issue I've had like that with Steam was with the original Dragon Age. Bought it on Steam, the package with all the DLC, and there was an issue about 30 hours in where the DLC wasn't able to "phone home", causing all my game saves afterward to pretty much be corrupt. By the time I realized what happened, I logged another 50 hours in. Steam pointed their fingers at Bioware as the publisher, Bioware pointed fingers at Steam as the distributor, and nothing was done to fix it at all.

Odd, since my pirated copy with all the DLC worked just fine. Funny, since I pirated it first, but liked it so much I paid for it, only to have it not work.



See, honesty does not pay.  My solution was to go over to thepiratebay and download the cracked version of 2142.  I still have some other games I can't play.  As long as I have to break the law to use what I already paid for, there doesn't seem to be much point in throwing more good money at buying stuff I may or may not be able to use in the future.  I feel bad for the develpers but I got two words for that:  learn to farking type.
 
2013-02-07 03:11:40 PM

scottydoesntknow: There's one reason these "idiots" don't authorize official keyboard/mouse combos for consoles, and that's to keep it a level playing field. I love playing FPS games on my Xbox, but I'll be the first to admit that anyone with a keyboard/mouse would stomp me into the ground in a heartbeat if all I had was a controller. Hell I've messed with playing Counter-Strike on my PC with a corded 360 controller, and it was embarassing.


I know they have their reasons ... all the way from "we don't want it to be a PC" to leveling the playing field.

And my answer is simple: It is a frikkin PC with locked hardware/OS. And the playing field will re-level to whatever is the best offered controls.

I am not interested in hardware hacks that give me an advantage over the bulk of the playing field ... I may be old but I can still hold my own against the young whipper-snappers. If I have keyboard/mouse then I want everyone else to have the option.

Then there is the fact that keyboards are the best tool for some of the biggest earning games ... ever hear of a little game called WoW? Why do consoles not want a chunk of that tasty pie?? Because they are idiots!
 
2013-02-07 03:19:52 PM

lordargent: I've also been in matches (like the one below) where I am doing very well but am getting dragged down by teammates.

lordargent.com

How do you go 12/33 in the same match that I went 33/11 in?


What ranking algorithm do they use there?  Mr. 12/33 somehow beat 14/16.  Are assists worth that much?
 
2013-02-07 03:32:38 PM

Big_Fat_Liar: RoxtarRyan: Big_Fat_Liar: What drives me away from Steam is not being able to play games I already bought.

The only issue I've had like that with Steam was with the original Dragon Age. Bought it on Steam, the package with all the DLC, and there was an issue about 30 hours in where the DLC wasn't able to "phone home", causing all my game saves afterward to pretty much be corrupt. By the time I realized what happened, I logged another 50 hours in. Steam pointed their fingers at Bioware as the publisher, Bioware pointed fingers at Steam as the distributor, and nothing was done to fix it at all.

Odd, since my pirated copy with all the DLC worked just fine. Funny, since I pirated it first, but liked it so much I paid for it, only to have it not work.


See, honesty does not pay.  My solution was to go over to thepiratebay and download the cracked version of 2142.  I still have some other games I can't play.  As long as I have to break the law to use what I already paid for, there doesn't seem to be much point in throwing more good money at buying stuff I may or may not be able to use in the future.  I feel bad for the develpers but I got two words for that:  learn to farking type.


Well, I dunno.... I can't blame the makers of the game themselves. I'm glad they got my $.02 for the purchase. I'm sure if you asked them "hey, we want to implement something into your awesome work that may break the game for a lot of users", the creators would be up in arms over it, and it was likely something that was forced on them by Bioware. It was a great game, highly enjoyable. I'm kinda glad they got a sale out of it, and hope that Bioware learned that by using that type of authentication, shiat breaks, and the more people hear that the pirated ones work and the legit ones don't, they will fix the way the DLC authenticates. I have no problem with authentication... I bought it, hey, here's proof, but if it is done in such a way that, like in my example, there's a glitch and it doesn't load and there isn't even a goddamn warning screen, then fark that. That's why I like Bethesda and Skyrim... if you load a game and it is missing something that was previously installed, it tells you before the game even loads so you can figure out what is wrong. It doesn't just go along like everything is ok and you waste tens, if not hundreds, of hours playing on a corrupted save.
 
2013-02-07 03:35:23 PM
serial_crusher: What ranking algorithm do they use there? Mr. 12/33 somehow beat 14/16. Are assists worth that much?

I believe it doesn't account for deaths, and hence, is stupid.

// and there's no skill based ranking, so that people like me (who started playing halo on the original XBOX at LAN parties ... and then played on the PC port (so that I could play with a keyboard + mouse) getting thrown in with people who just got a new xbox 360 with halo.

It's no fun for me when they're on my team dragging it down.

And it's no fun for them when they're on the opposite team and not making any headway against me (and it's no fun for me because it doesn't help me improve my skill or anything).

In the case above, you basically had a really powerful player on each team and it basically came down to which one of us would kill more (that gametype is the first team to get to 60 kills, and both of us got half of what the team needed).
 
2013-02-07 08:47:41 PM

serial_crusher: lordargent: I've also been in matches (like the one below) where I am doing very well but am getting dragged down by teammates.

lordargent.com

How do you go 12/33 in the same match that I went 33/11 in?

What ranking algorithm do they use there?  Mr. 12/33 somehow beat 14/16.  Are assists worth that much?


Assists are worth half as much as deaths (kill = 10 points, assist = 5) So a guy who went 10/20 but had 11 assists would be ahead (point-wise) of a person who went 15/10 but had no assists.

lordargent: It's no fun for me when they're on my team dragging it down


That's why I've pretty much moved onto Grifball for Halo 4. Still have a blast playing that and your K/D doesn't affect who actually wins the match. Of course it always sucks when you go 60/30 but still lose cause your team can't figure out how to get a ball from one side to the other. But then you get those other games where you feel like you're on an NFL team and everyone is passing the grifball/defending perfectly.

/Can't wait for Aliens: Colonial Marines
 
2013-02-07 09:36:51 PM

scottydoesntknow: serial_crusher: lordargent: I've also been in matches (like the one below) where I am doing very well but am getting dragged down by teammates.

lordargent.com

How do you go 12/33 in the same match that I went 33/11 in?

What ranking algorithm do they use there?  Mr. 12/33 somehow beat 14/16.  Are assists worth that much?

Assists are worth half as much as deaths (kill = 10 points, assist = 5) So a guy who went 10/20 but had 11 assists would be ahead (point-wise) of a person who went 15/10 but had no assists.

lordargent: It's no fun for me when they're on my team dragging it down

That's why I've pretty much moved onto Grifball for Halo 4. Still have a blast playing that and your K/D doesn't affect who actually wins the match. Of course it always sucks when you go 60/30 but still lose cause your team can't figure out how to get a ball from one side to the other. But then you get those other games where you feel like you're on an NFL team and everyone is passing the grifball/defending perfectly.

/Can't wait for Aliens: Colonial Marines


I think the answer is actually in the guy's gamer tag.
 
2013-02-07 09:49:40 PM
scottydoesntknow: /Can't wait for Aliens: Colonial Marines

I prefer precision weapons, my game of choice is team snipers.

Impatiently waiting for them to finish tweaking it and add it back to halo 4. Might have to switch back to fallout NV for a bit until they get their shiat together.

Can't play griffball worth a damn, could never figure out the mechanics of the hammer. I need precision weapons.
 
2013-02-08 08:35:23 AM

chuggernaught: [www.deviantart.com image 600x200]


Alternatively,
i56.tinypic.com

/hot
//small and shiatty too
///eh, I'm at work, can't get to my picture vault
 
2013-02-08 09:36:54 AM
Well, I'd love to comment on the Halo 4 business here but I spent the late hours last night chasing noobs around with a pistol in Team Deathmatch in Black Ops II.  If you want better matchmaking and a better challenge go play Kill Confirmed or Headquarters.  It amazes me how many kids don't understand objectives.
 
2013-02-08 10:31:58 AM

Girl Pants: chuggernaught: [www.deviantart.com image 600x200]

Alternatively,
[i56.tinypic.com image 295x167]

/hot
//small and shiatty too
///eh, I'm at work, can't get to my picture vault


A real god gamer would be able to get to their pictures from work.
 
2013-02-08 11:26:21 AM

Mr. Fuzzypaws: You're all arguing aver a Kotaku article? Good lord.


LOL, I was just thinking that.
 
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