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(Lafayette Advertiser)   The city of Memphis votes to rename three city parks that honored the Confederacy and its leaders, including one named after the founder of the KKK. Sadly, even in this day and age, some people have a problem with that   (theadvertiser.com) divider line 589
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2013-02-06 04:16:45 PM

Farce-Side: Rapmaster2000: give me doughnuts:

No, I'm calm, cool, and collected down here with all of these easy Southern women.  They like guys with money.

Good thing you know a few, then.

Yes, it is.  It's a my patented system which I call SCRAPS, which is not an acronym.  You see, after a young debutante fails once again to secure a proper husband, I move in to console her with promises of Broadway plays and indoor plumbing.  Let's just say it's easy pickings.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 604x453]

Here's a picture of me and some of my bros partying before the Ole Miss game.  Check out my madras shorts and of course, the Absolut.  Only the good stuff for me, Bo, Rhett, Gage, and Jackson.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....so you're a sterotypical frat boy?  Nice.  Doesn't take money to dress like that or get those girls, just a pretentious sense of self worth.  A lot of people I know (from the south) have that same thing.  And those same shorts.

/Absolut, the good stuff? hahahaha....
//I bow to your comedy stylings sir.


I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's not really him.
 
2013-02-06 04:17:32 PM

dukwbutter: danfrank: Abraham Lincoln owned slaves? Please provide a citation for that, because I think you're full of shiat.

Git some!!!  You freaking liberal yankees are getting a full does of truth today.  Sucks.  Nothing like what you learned in the history books, is it?  OMG they lied to me in school. Doh!  Suck it libtards!

http://www.dixiescv.org/slavery.html


Your website states that his father in law owned slaves.

Not that Abraham Lincoln owned slaves.

Also, I don't think anyone is trying to argue "ZOMG THE SOUTH CREATED SLAVERY". What I *AM* trying to say is that the south threw a petulant, horrific, nation-sundering temper tantrum like a three-year-old being denied candy because they thought they were going to lose the right to own slaves.

Do you disagree? Again, if so, do you feel the leaders were simply lying when the wrote the articles of secession?
 
2013-02-06 04:17:59 PM

dukwbutter: So, when he said the south could keep their slaves if they would just rejoin the Union....you would explain that how.  They're just "quotes".  I love how "quotes" are different from "historical facts".  Tell me more professor. :O


The South seceded to preserve slavery. Anything Lincoln did in response to that does nothing change their reasons for seceding.

Lincoln loved his country and hated war more than he hated slavery.  He wasn't a perfect man, and he didn't always make the right choices.

But the hard cold fact is that the South went to war to preserve slavery.  That was their stated purpose.  Learn your history.
 
2013-02-06 04:18:04 PM

dukwbutter: danfrank: Abraham Lincoln owned slaves? Please provide a citation for that, because I think you're full of shiat.

Git some!!!  You freaking liberal yankees are getting a full does of truth today.  Sucks.  Nothing like what you learned in the history books, is it?  OMG they lied to me in school. Doh!  Suck it libtards!

http://www.dixiescv.org/slavery.html


Wow is that link full of absolute shiat.
 
2013-02-06 04:18:25 PM

The Larch: You don't understand how the quote button works, do you? Maybe you can be proud of that, too.


Actually. I do. How about a big cup of go fark yourself?
 
2013-02-06 04:18:27 PM

karnal: Rapmaster2000: give me doughnuts:

No, I'm calm, cool, and collected down here with all of these easy Southern women.  They like guys with money.

Good thing you know a few, then.

Yes, it is.  It's a my patented system which I call SCRAPS, which is not an acronym.  You see, after a young debutante fails once again to secure a proper husband, I move in to console her with promises of Broadway plays and indoor plumbing.  Let's just say it's easy pickings.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 604x453]

Here's a picture of me and some of my bros partying before the Ole Miss game.  Check out my madras shorts and of course, the Absolut.  Only the good stuff for me, Bo, Rhett, Gage, and Jackson.


From that picture I can tell you're a racist.


That's so unfair.  I always talk with the porter at my Dad's dealership.

Why, just the other day I was saying to my black friend at the Club "Oh Porterhouse, look at the wax build up on these shoes!   I want that wax stripped off there, then I want them creamed and buffed with a fine chamois, and I want them now. Chop chop!"
 
2013-02-06 04:18:36 PM

dukwbutter: Git some!!!  You freaking liberal yankees are getting a full does of truth today.  Sucks.  Nothing like what you learned in the history books, is it?  OMG they lied to me in school. Doh!  Suck it libtards!

http://www.dixiescv.org/slavery.html


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

To clarify, four points

1: Lincoln never owned slaves.
2. The Corwin amendment was offered forth to let states that already had slavery implemented keep it, but would still have outlawed slavery in new states/territories. This was unacceptable to the seceding states (slavery was the issue.)
3. Foaming with glee that you are 'educating liberals' from "dixiescv"  kind of suggests that you're, in fact, just an uneducated idiot.
4. You're an uneducated idiot. 

Another fine example of someone who is creating their own fantasy history, not due to facts, but due to their partisan political identity. dukwbutter hates liberals. Liberals are associated with the fact that the Civil War was about slavery. Therefor dukwbutter hates facts.
 
2013-02-06 04:18:38 PM
It is highly uncertain Nathan Bedford Forrest had anything to do with the founding of the KKK aside from having his name attached to it. He was probably a member at best, and even then he left before it became a violent organization. He's no saint, but the hyperbole in this thread (I know, it's Fark, big surprise) is ridiculous.

He was a the premier cavalry commander of the Civil War and, as others noted, actually campaigned for civil rights by the end of his life.

/Yankee
 
2013-02-06 04:19:49 PM

dukwbutter: danfrank: Abraham Lincoln owned slaves? Please provide a citation for that, because I think you're full of shiat.

Git some!!!  You freaking liberal yankees are getting a full does of truth today.  Sucks.  Nothing like what you learned in the history books, is it?  OMG they lied to me in school. Doh!  Suck it libtards!

http://www.dixiescv.org/slavery.html


Oh, man. You didn't even read your terrible blog, did you.
 
2013-02-06 04:21:02 PM

dukwbutter: danfrank: Abraham Lincoln owned slaves? Please provide a citation for that, because I think you're full of shiat.

Git some!!!  You freaking liberal yankees are getting a full does of truth today.  Sucks.  Nothing like what you learned in the history books, is it?  OMG they lied to me in school. Doh!  Suck it libtards!

http://www.dixiescv.org/slavery.html


I don't see anything in your, uhm, "scholarly article" about Lincoln owning slaves.
 
2013-02-06 04:21:49 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Ahh, one of the proud Sons of the South in all his ignorant glory.


You're ignorant, J@ckass.  what have I posted that's wrong.  I'm the only conservative person that still bothers to check on Fark after it went full commie.  Sucks. One person arguing against a thousand drones that only know what they lurned in publik skool. Sucks.
 
2013-02-06 04:22:06 PM

dukwbutter: The Larch: You don't understand how the quote button works, do you? Maybe you can be proud of that, too.

Actually. I do. How about a big cup of go fark yourself?


Can I get a donut with that?
 
2013-02-06 04:22:10 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND:  I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's not really him.

Gee, ya think?
 
2013-02-06 04:22:39 PM

dukwbutter: I think it's pathetic that the white southern christian male is demonized. It's the last unprotected class of the politically correct. Blacks. Gays. Jews. Anything is fine, so long as you're not a white southern christian male. Then, all bets are off.


Aaaaannnd, there it is.

We get it, bro.  You're a victim.
 
2013-02-06 04:22:57 PM
Here in Jacksonville we have a high school...in a predominately minority neighborhood...named after N.B. Forest...yay
 
2013-02-06 04:23:02 PM

quiet_american: The irrationality in this thread is really depressing.

Everyone comments as though ... no other viewpoint than theirs is correct.
...
Yet people in here have this tyrant's attitude ... to just swallow the mainstream version of history uncritically and then try to barf it back in soundbites to validate whatever center-left political action is taken.


Ok, now fun thought experiment:  read the two statements above (shortened for brevity). See the problem? Hint: I bolded the key words.
 
2013-02-06 04:23:15 PM

VendorXeno: dukwbutter: Git some!!! You freaking liberal yankees are getting a full does of truth today. Sucks. Nothing like what you learned in the history books, is it? OMG they lied to me in school. Doh! Suck it libtards!

http://www.dixiescv.org/slavery.html

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

To clarify, four points

1: Lincoln never owned slaves.
2. The Corwin amendment was offered forth to let states that already had slavery implemented keep it, but would still have outlawed slavery in new states/territories. This was unacceptable to the seceding states (slavery was the issue.)
3. Foaming with glee that you are 'educating liberals' from "dixiescv" kind of suggests that you're, in fact, just an uneducated idiot.
4. You're an uneducated idiot.

Another fine example of someone who is creating their own fantasy history, not due to facts, but due to their partisan political identity. dukwbutter hates liberals. Liberals are associated with the fact that the Civil War was about slavery. Therefor dukwbutter hates facts.


You're an idiot. And a j@ck@ss. And you're wrong. Have a nice go fark yourself  :)
 
2013-02-06 04:24:04 PM
Geeze, is it a sign that I was born and raised in Tennessee (just north of Nashville) that I knew the founder of the KKK by heart? Dammit. I agree with changing Nathan bedford Forest Park. There's even a statue of the'tard somewhere, or there used to be.
 
2013-02-06 04:24:54 PM

Maestro1701: drumfreek: I love how most everybody here uses the typical Southern stereotype. All southern whites are racist. For you guys, I have seen some dumb motherfarkers in my life, but you take the cake.

The cake is a lie


Southerners should be proud of their cake. I have nothing but respect for this.

www2.worldpub.net
 
2013-02-06 04:25:13 PM

dukwbutter: Philip Francis Queeg: Ahh, one of the proud Sons of the South in all his ignorant glory.

You're ignorant, J@ckass.  what have I posted that's wrong.  I'm the only conservative person that still bothers to check on Fark after it went full commie.  Sucks. One person arguing against a thousand drones that only know what they lurned in publik skool. Sucks.


Things you have posted that are wrong:

Lincoln owned slaves.

That the civil war and secession had nothing to do with slavery.

Not to mention linking to a webpage that was jammed with laughably obvious errors.
 
2013-02-06 04:25:45 PM

dukwbutter: You're an idiot. And a j@ck@ss. And you're wrong. Have a nice go fark yourself  :)


Well, darn. I predict this thread is about to get a lot shorter, and a lot less... uhh.. interesting.
 
2013-02-06 04:26:25 PM

RealityChuck: He then gave a black woman a kiss on the cheek, which was scandalous back then.

Bedford Forrest's name was used in the establishment of the Klan, but there's no indication he took part, and it's unclear as to whether he gave consent to use his name. So the historical record indicates he was far less racist than most whites of his time.


How dare you try to bring fact and reason into this discussion. Cant you see we need to insult southerners for something that happened over 150 years ago. Everyone living in the South whether they were born there or not, is responsible. Nevermind the fact that many monuments and parks in the North are named after butchers who oppressed and murdered Native Americans. While we are at, it lets rename places like Auschwitz and Dachau, and Bataan bad things happened there and if we change the name we can remove the truth from History.....
 
2013-02-06 04:27:20 PM

dukwbutter: You're an idiot. And a j@ck@ss. And you're wrong. Have a nice go fark yourself :)


And yet, you've failed to prove it. : )
 
2013-02-06 04:27:27 PM
My Dad owns a dealership called Nathan Bedford Forrest Kia.  I dare any of you to take it from me!
 
2013-02-06 04:27:29 PM

someonelse: Maestro1701: drumfreek: I love how most everybody here uses the typical Southern stereotype. All southern whites are racist. For you guys, I have seen some dumb motherfarkers in my life, but you take the cake.

The cake is a lie

Southerners should be proud of their cake. I have nothing but respect for this.

[www2.worldpub.net image 400x422]


Real southern cake:

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-06 04:27:48 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's not really him.


I know, hence the appreciation of his comedy stylings.
 
2013-02-06 04:27:49 PM

Rapmaster2000: karnal: Rapmaster2000: give me doughnuts:

No, I'm calm, cool, and collected down here with all of these easy Southern women.  They like guys with money.

Good thing you know a few, then.

Yes, it is.  It's a my patented system which I call SCRAPS, which is not an acronym.  You see, after a young debutante fails once again to secure a proper husband, I move in to console her with promises of Broadway plays and indoor plumbing.  Let's just say it's easy pickings.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 604x453]

Here's a picture of me and some of my bros partying before the Ole Miss game.  Check out my madras shorts and of course, the Absolut.  Only the good stuff for me, Bo, Rhett, Gage, and Jackson.


From that picture I can tell you're a racist.

That's so unfair.  I always talk with the porter at my Dad's dealership.

Why, just the other day I was saying to my black friend at the Club "Oh Porterhouse, look at the wax build up on these shoes!   I want that wax stripped off there, then I want them creamed and buffed with a fine chamois, and I want them now. Chop chop!"



Well played!
 
2013-02-06 04:28:01 PM

dukwbutter: You're an idiot. And a j@ck@ss. And you're wrong. Have a nice go fark yourself :)


Here, I shall try to help, oh intellectual superior, in helping you show how you are wrong in at least one respect.
"Or Abraham Lincoln's Father in Law's Slaves?"

Lincoln's Father in Law's Slaves?

Father in Law


While this may be difficult, those words roughly boil down into "Someone who is not Lincoln".

In fact, their last name was not EVEN Lincoln. I realize that in some (very limited) areas of the south, a southern man may share the same last name as his father in law, but I am fairly certain this was not the case here.

I hope this is complicated enough for your superior intellect to comprehend.
 
2013-02-06 04:28:40 PM

dukwbutter: I think it's pathetic that the white southern christian male is demonized. It's the last unprotected class of the politically correct. Blacks. Gays. Jews. Anything is fine, so long as you're not a white southern christian male. Then, all bets are off.


Demonized? The same way White Southern Christian Males demonized everyone else for a few hundred years? You're upset because you're not getting treated as lords of the manor anymore?

Grow up, snowflake. No one cares who you are, where you come from or what religion you claim (well, right up until those things become justifications for mistreating others). If you're feeling demonized, I'd start taking a long look at what you're calling "demonization" and what the delta is between what you're expecting and what you're getting.

Also, "demonization" is going to be a tough sell when all the statistics still point to white advantage. Don't feel bad - I get to use that advantage too, despite being Jewish. SO unfair, right?
 
2013-02-06 04:29:10 PM

dukwbutter: Felgraf: Hrm. Gee. I am positively stumped. I'm sure dukwbutter can explain how this is, in fact, not about slavery, though.

Both Lincoln and Grant owned slaves. In his inaugural address of March 4, 1861, U.S. President Abraham Lincoln stated, "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."  Union General U.S. Grant said, "If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side."

So, yeah, it wasn't about slavery. The more you know...


You're an idiot sir.

There is no documented proof Grant ever said that.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Ulysses_S._Grant

There is also this from NYT Dated August 1872:

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F20813F7355C1A7493 C2 AA1783D85F468784F9

"Also, Grant's wife Julia's father owned slaves, although Grant's father was an abolitionist. Grant owned a young male slave that his father-in-law gave his wife for about a year. He freed the man in 1859, although he could have sold him for $1000 dollars at a time that he was steeped in debt.
Another Grant quote is as follows :
'As soon as slavery fired upon the flag, it was felt, we all felt, even those who did not object to slaves, that slavery must be destroyed. We felt that it was a stain to the Union that men should be bought and sold like cattle... there had to be an end to slavery.' "   http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f= 101; t=000255;p=0

Why don't you try something else?
 
2013-02-06 04:29:11 PM

Dr. Whoof: dukwbutter: The North did all of those same things, j@ckass.  The North had slaves. Lincoln had slaves.  Grant had slaves.  You're trying to paint it as a southern invention. It was not.  farkwad.

Yeah, but see, you don't see northerners screaming about "Northern pride" and wearing a Union battle flag and proclaiming "the South will burn again!".  Well, outside of being sarcastic in Fark threads.  It's not something people generally do.  The opposite, however, it alive and well south of the Mason-Dixon.

Though I admit this Union battle flag is pretty bad ass:
[www.thegoodfight.us image 640x376]


No, they just wave the Gadsden Flag and The Stars and Stripes and holler about "MURICA!"

/to be fair, there are just as many of these yammerheads in the South
//the cognitive dissonance can be spectacular
///you can almost see it, like heat ripples over blacktop
 
2013-02-06 04:31:01 PM

Dr Dreidel: White Southern Christian Males demonized everyone else for a few hundred years


Define "a few".  It could mean the difference between you being right, and you being an idiot.
 
2013-02-06 04:31:56 PM
This one is from the south.  However I have moved around quite a bit in the US and internationally.

In many ways I have a love hate relationship with my heritage.  The civil war sucked.  But it is history.  It was not just about slavery.  But it was about slavery.  Lincoln helped to free the slaves.  Lincoln was also a racist.  I love the dixie flag.  I can never tattoo it or have a fun decal on my car now.

I've changed a lot of my viewpoints growing up over the years.  It seems though that the rest of the country just likes to dump on southerners.  Sometimes there are good reasons.  But there are good reasons for other parts of the country too.  I get white hood jokes thrown at me all the time in other parts of the country.  At conferences, it's easier to strike up conversations without a 'from' on my name tag.

Enjoy the black and white argumentative vitriol.  Keep making things worse.
 
2013-02-06 04:32:46 PM

The Larch: dukwbutter: The Larch: You don't understand how the quote button works, do you? Maybe you can be proud of that, too.

Actually. I do. How about a big cup of go fark yourself?

Can I get a donut with that?


Krispy Kreme?
 
2013-02-06 04:34:48 PM

Dr Dreidel: Demonized? The same way White Southern Christian Males demonized everyone else for a few hundred years? You're upset because you're not getting treated as lords of the manor anymore? Grow up, snowflake.


Hear hear! That complaint about the plight of white males isn't about persecution, it's about loss of privilege. As a US male of European heritage I can state with fair certainty that I've still pretty much got it made. I've still got a long way to fall before I would have any business complaining about being oppressed due to my race or sex.
 
2013-02-06 04:35:30 PM

give me doughnuts: The Larch: dukwbutter: The Larch: You don't understand how the quote button works, do you? Maybe you can be proud of that, too.

Actually. I do. How about a big cup of go fark yourself?

Can I get a donut with that?

Krispy Kreme?


Would people buy it if they sold Krispy Kreme Koffee?
 
2013-02-06 04:35:43 PM

BafflerMeal: Enjoy the black and white argumentative vitriol. Keep making things worse.


Oh, I grew up in a southern state myself. I don't actually hate the south.

I do hate the bullshiat "Slavery had nothing to do with the civil war" canard, because *IT'S WRONG*.

It's the same reason I start twitching whenever Deepak Chopra and "QUANTUM MECHANICS IS MAAAAAAAGIC" comes up. Believe me, that line of discussion will actually incite waaaaaayyy more vitrol from me.
 
2013-02-06 04:38:31 PM

KenShabby: You can't get much closer to Satan than Nathan Bedford Forrest, but he was one of the best cavalry commanders to ever live.  You have to give the murderous, slave trading, son of a biatch that


No, he really was not one of the best. He was an opportunist. His early success is because the North had very little calvary worth the name and misused it. When the Army of the Potomac creates a dedicated calvary force of it's own and puts a competent commander in charge they kick the ever living shiat out of Forrest and destroy the Souths ability to raid.
 
2013-02-06 04:39:26 PM

xander450: quiet_american: The irrationality in this thread is really depressing.

Everyone comments as though ... no other viewpoint than theirs is correct.
...
Yet people in here have this tyrant's attitude ... to just swallow the mainstream version of history uncritically and then try to barf it back in soundbites to validate whatever center-left political action is taken.

Ok, now fun thought experiment:  read the two statements above (shortened for brevity). See the problem? Hint: I bolded the key words.



If I wanted to answer in the same fashion as you:
1) All I see is your arrogance and condescending attitude.
2) Well, that and your grammatical mistakes. "now fun thought"
3) Hint: you're an asshole who isn't as smart as he thinks he is

Instead, my central point is the same: this kind of back and forth is a waste of time. Most of the people here are intelligent, and yet we let ourselves fall into this kind of empty discourse. Instead of validating the status quo, let's let people have their monuments, and let others in power tear them down, and have an exchange of ideas that isn't just little childish parries of insults and lame attempts to be funny through soundbites.
 
2013-02-06 04:40:18 PM

Nabb1: Mike_1962: Well, just consider two things. The war was started by the US attempting to annex large parts of Canada. You were thrown back acoss the border and not only did not fullfil the mission, came perilously close to losing significant territory yourself.

The second point is that in any encounters of even marginally comparable numbers, the US decisively won only once, and that battle (New Orleans) occurred after the peace was signed.

Now, if an American wants to maintain that it was essentially a draw, I would say, debatable, but OK. It was a negotiated peace. You still came out of it with no significant gain and a heck of a lot of damage. Me, I'm just glad we didn't keep Detroit.

The U.S. had a number of grievances against England not the least of which was interference with trade, seizing US merchant ships and pressing their crews into service in the Royal Navy not the least among them. So, they did the best they could to strike against British interests and attacked Canada. The main goal was to draw England back into conflict, and then the U.S. got most of what it wanted before the war in terms of the terms of the treaty. Attacking Canada was a means to that end.


.As I said, debatable. Yes, your trade relations with France were restricted. The War of 1812 didn't have anything to do with resolving that issue. That was resolved by Napolean's defeat. Again, attacks on shipping and forced impressing of American seamen again were or would have been resolved by the end of the Napoleonic conflict. As for the annexation attempts? That part you lost at. In the end after the European war was over, the US had to go strictly on the defensive, which you accomplished quite successfully. In the end the War ended with the Treaty of Ghent prompted largely by mercantile interests on both sides and the fact that there really wasn't anything left to fight about. No significant territory changed hands, and the reasons for the trade problems had disappeared with the ending of the war with France. Since then, the US, Britain and Canada have embraced a long enduring friendship.
 
2013-02-06 04:40:20 PM

scumshine: dukwbutter: Felgraf: Hrm. Gee. I am positively stumped. I'm sure dukwbutter can explain how this is, in fact, not about slavery, though.

Both Lincoln and Grant owned slaves. In his inaugural address of March 4, 1861, U.S. President Abraham Lincoln stated, "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."  Union General U.S. Grant said, "If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side."

So, yeah, it wasn't about slavery. The more you know...

You're an idiot sir.

There is no documented proof Grant ever said that.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Ulysses_S._Grant

There is also this from NYT Dated August 1872:

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F20813F7355C1A7493 C2 AA1783D85F468784F9

"Also, Grant's wife Julia's father owned slaves, although Grant's father was an abolitionist. Grant owned a young male slave that his father-in-law gave his wife for about a year. He freed the man in 1859, although he could have sold him for $1000 dollars at a time that he was steeped in debt.
Another Grant quote is as follows :
'As soon as slavery fired upon the flag, it was felt, we all felt, even those who did not object to slaves, that slavery must be destroyed. We felt that it was a stain to the Union that men should be bought and sold like cattle... there had to be an end to slavery.' "   http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f= 101; t=000255;p=0

Why don't you try something else?


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-06 04:41:07 PM
You're all getting trolled...


media-cdn.tripadvisor.com

Bet slavery was a big part of the Civil War for these folks.
 
2013-02-06 04:41:14 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: HotWingConspiracy: Mid_mo_mad_man: Forrest did not start the KKK that existed in the 1950's. The klan he founded died out fairly quickly.

Well that hardly deserves a park naming.

Being a brilliant military commander does. Btw the federal armies did not defeat Lee. Northern manufacturing & the USA Navy did


Bwhahahahahahahahaha! The federal army did defeat Lee at Gettysburg, because Lee was too farking arrogant to listen to his commanders who tried to argue him out of the farking charge up Cemetery Hill. Gettysburg turns the war and is where Southern hope is crushed.
 
2013-02-06 04:44:57 PM

Farce-Side: Define "a few".  It could mean the difference between you being right, and you being an idiot.


"A colloquial term that could mean anything from 2 to 7-8."

I wasn't trying to specify or define a "White Privilege Starts NOW" epoch. I think the point was made.

// "White Christian Southern Males - demonizing everyone else since 33AD", for example, would not be accurate
 
Ox
2013-02-06 04:45:10 PM
Why are so many American's such strong supporters of traitors?
 
2013-02-06 04:45:38 PM

dukwbutter: danfrank: Abraham Lincoln owned slaves? Please provide a citation for that, because I think you're full of shiat.

Git some!!!  You freaking liberal yankees are getting a full does of truth today.  Sucks.  Nothing like what you learned in the history books, is it?  OMG they lied to me in school. Doh!  Suck it libtards!

http://www.dixiescv.org/slavery.html


And that's a legitimate link to the truth?  Lincoln never owned slaves but his wife's family did:   http://hnn.us/articles/did-lincoln-own-slaves

I'm wasting my time; folks like you live in another farking universe which is a huge problem for the rest of us here in the South but I ain't worried, no sir. Majority of us will be moving on while your sitting on the park bench in Bum fark, Alabama playing checkers at the county courthouse wondering wtf happened.
 
2013-02-06 04:48:13 PM

Dr Dreidel: Demonized? The same way White Southern Christian Males demonized everyone else for a few hundred years? You're upset because you're not getting treated as lords of the manor anymore?


Don't people talk about the Jews like that? The Jews run the movies, the Jews run the media?
 
2013-02-06 04:49:46 PM

GoldSpider: DROxINxTHExWIND: What do you call people who are ALWAYS offended puzzled that someone would take offense to something?

Just seems like a lot effort is wasted on stuff like this.  Your priorities may vary.


Thats a fair position. I feel that way about some of it, too. But, I don't tell people what they should feel. I recently, with my grandmother's help, traced our family back to the slave owner who gave us our family name. Hell, I even was able to go back to his grandfather. Anyway, when I contacted my 60 year old cousin who still lives in North Carolina to see what she knew about my discovery I found out that she knew that and more. See, up here in DC we'd hear the ocassional story from my grandmother about how things were when she was a girl and they were just stories to us. But, for my grandmother's cousin who still lives in North Carolina, almost in the same area that they grew up, these were tales of her life and the life of her mother. She recalls the men in our family being beaten by white police officers for imaginary violations of the law. She remembers her mother getting treated like a sub-human by the white women that she worked for. This stuff is a lot fresher than many people are willing to admit. My mother, that's one generation ago, was spat on and had bottles thrown at her and her classmates for having the audacity to go to Spring Break in Ocean City, MD while she was black. I can't be angry at people who have experienced that kind of bullshiat for pshing back every single time they sense that society is regressing. i think people nowadays have gotten comfortable because it seems impossible for it to happen. My grandmother knows thats not true.

/Funny thing is, both my mother and grandmother are the most tolerant, loving people in the world.
//Neither of them holds a grudge
///They are better people than I am
 
2013-02-06 04:50:35 PM

Crewmannumber6: give me doughnuts: The Larch: dukwbutter: The Larch: You don't understand how the quote button works, do you? Maybe you can be proud of that, too.

Actually. I do. How about a big cup of go fark yourself?

Can I get a donut with that?

Krispy Kreme?

Would people buy it if they sold Krispy Kreme Koffee?


God knows I would.
 
2013-02-06 04:52:26 PM

Dr Dreidel: "White Christian Southern Males - demonizing everyone else since 33AD", for example, would not be accurate


Leave out Christian and Southern and you're pretty accurate.
 
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