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(Lafayette Advertiser)   The city of Memphis votes to rename three city parks that honored the Confederacy and its leaders, including one named after the founder of the KKK. Sadly, even in this day and age, some people have a problem with that   (theadvertiser.com) divider line 589
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2013-02-06 04:00:16 PM
Mike_1962: Well, just consider two things. The war was started by the US attempting to annex large parts of Canada. You were thrown back acoss the border and not only did not fullfil the mission, came perilously close to losing significant territory yourself.

The second point is that in any encounters of even marginally comparable numbers, the US decisively won only once, and that battle (New Orleans) occurred after the peace was signed.

Now, if an American wants to maintain that it was essentially a draw, I would say, debatable, but OK. It was a negotiated peace. You still came out of it with no significant gain and a heck of a lot of damage. Me, I'm just glad we didn't keep Detroit.


The U.S. had a number of grievances against England not the least of which was interference with trade, seizing US merchant ships and pressing their crews into service in the Royal Navy not the least among them. So, they did the best they could to strike against British interests and attacked Canada. The main goal was to draw England back into conflict, and then the U.S. got most of what it wanted before the war in terms of the terms of the treaty. Attacking Canada was a means to that end.
 
2013-02-06 04:00:27 PM
give me doughnuts:

No, I'm calm, cool, and collected down here with all of these easy Southern women.  They like guys with money.

Good thing you know a few, then.


Yes, it is.  It's a my patented system which I call SCRAPS, which is not an acronym.  You see, after a young debutante fails once again to secure a proper husband, I move in to console her with promises of Broadway plays and indoor plumbing.  Let's just say it's easy pickings.

3.bp.blogspot.com

Here's a picture of me and some of my bros partying before the Ole Miss game.  Check out my madras shorts and of course, the Absolut.  Only the good stuff for me, Bo, Rhett, Gage, and Jackson.
 
2013-02-06 04:00:31 PM

BafflerMeal: All2morrowsparTs: farm machine: The cleansing of history continues as the intolerant continue to widen their scope of what is offensive.  Why not leave these parks named as is as a testament to ill conceived failures?  A tribute to our ability to persevere and triumph over adversity.  When we lose sight of where we've come from don't we also risk letting history repeat itself?

So can I name the street you live on Hitler Way? Stalin Street? It keeps history dirty and is definately a testement to ill concieved failures and our ability to persevere and triumpth over adversity. How about the Hun Highway, The Mongolian Mile, Black Pleage Epidemic Expressway?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/9839666/Russia-revi ve s-Stalingrad-city-name.html


Touche' I just read about that the other day. To their credit the city was opposed to this.
 
2013-02-06 04:00:38 PM

Rapmaster2000: theflatline:

I will take a gentile southern gal over a northern gal any day.

I'm not surprised to hear that a Southerner refuses to date Jews.


I suggest you check out my beak, and that should have been genteel, as sometimes my spanish phonetics bleed over into my english spelling.

Spent much of my time at our local JCC as a youth, and gramps even has a temple in Panama named after him.
 
2013-02-06 04:00:40 PM

dukwbutter: So, yeah, it wasn't about slavery. The more you know..


Actually, your quotes not withstanding, Lincoln still ran for president on an emancipation platform. See the Lincoln vs Douglas debates. And several southern states specifically stated that if Lincoln were to win the presidency, based on this particular plank of his platform, they would secede. And when he won, they did, and that was the stated reason. Isolated quotes can't erase historical fact. When dealing with history, you have to deal with all of it, not just tiny parts your prefer.
 
2013-02-06 04:00:44 PM

Spaced Cowboy: I'm bored on Fark, just like you. This is more "meh" than "angry and spiteful."

If pretending that I'm all kinds of upset instead of just terminally bored makes this conversation more interesting, then run with it, I say.


Fair enough.  We need another gun thread.
 
2013-02-06 04:00:48 PM

dukwbutter: Dr. Whoof: dukwbutter: And to look at a group of people and say that they have nothing to be proud of.

They have plenty to be proud of. The Confederacy is not one of them. The Civil War is not one of them. The Confederate flag is not one of them.

We are proud of every one of these things.  You have no right to tell Southerners what they are allowed to be proud of. fark you and the horse you rode in on.


Actually, I sure do have a right to tell them.  They don't have to listen, unless they get all "secessiony" again and then, well, they get told with bullets (and these days, missiles, artillery, etc).

However, yeah, I have every right to say treating other human beings as property and essentially livestock, and fighting a war to that end, is nothing to be proud of.  It's a heritage of evil.  Instead, go be proud of GOOD things the south has done.
 
2013-02-06 04:00:49 PM

dukwbutter: Felgraf: Hrm. Gee. I am positively stumped. I'm sure dukwbutter can explain how this is, in fact, not about slavery, though.

Both Lincoln and Grant owned slaves. In his inaugural address of March 4, 1861, U.S. President Abraham Lincoln stated, "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."  Union General U.S. Grant said, "If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side."

So, yeah, it wasn't about slavery. The more you know...


Yeah, it was at least partially about slavery. Regardless of what Lincoln or Grant said.
 
2013-02-06 04:01:29 PM

Dr Dreidel: You're from the South? Awesome - talk about biscuits and football and NASCAR and Texas oil and Florida/LA heat and have a silly accent and wear overalls and drink you some sweetea. DON'T, however, be proud of secession, civil war and slavery. "Southern Pride" can be easily reappropriated to mean a Junetime march with rainbow flags.
You're from Germany? Awesome - even though I don't like weissbier, schnitzel is proof of god's love, I know a bit of the language, your people are polite (the few native-Germans I've ever met, anyway) and the endless jokes about sterile efficiency never fail to amuse. DON'T, however, start wistfully remembering WWII from the Kraut side. So long as you're not very "white power"-y, I think you'll be OK citing your German heritage.


Don't dare tell me what I can and can't be proud of. fark you. I'm proud of the secession of the South.  fark the North. Lincoln and Grant both had slaves.  fark you for telling me what I can be proud of.
 
2013-02-06 04:01:43 PM

dukwbutter: Felgraf: For fark's sake, have you even *read* the articles of succession?

For Fark's sake.  Do you even know the difference between "secession" and "succession"?  Guffaw!!!! Sucks having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.


Aye, I mistyped in my initial post, I realize that.  Could you please address the following posts where I not only spell it correctly, but cite two of the articles of secession? And where I point out how they, loudly and frequently, address slavery as a reason for why they seceded.

I'd argue that screwing up a homophone doesn't really equal an unarmed opponent, but, surely if I am so inferior to yourself, you can explain away my subsequent posts?

I await your answer with bated (or baited: both spellings appear to be acceptable) breath, really and truly I do.
 
2013-02-06 04:02:06 PM

dukwbutter: Felgraf: Hrm. Gee. I am positively stumped. I'm sure dukwbutter can explain how this is, in fact, not about slavery, though.

Both Lincoln and Grant owned slaves. In his inaugural address of March 4, 1861, U.S. President Abraham Lincoln stated, "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."  Union General U.S. Grant said, "If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side."

So, yeah, it wasn't about slavery. The more you know...


Abraham Lincoln owned slaves? Please provide a citation for that, because I think you're full of shiat.
 
2013-02-06 04:02:34 PM

Rapmaster2000: give me doughnuts:

No, I'm calm, cool, and collected down here with all of these easy Southern women.  They like guys with money.

Good thing you know a few, then.

Yes, it is.  It's a my patented system which I call SCRAPS, which is not an acronym.  You see, after a young debutante fails once again to secure a proper husband, I move in to console her with promises of Broadway plays and indoor plumbing.  Let's just say it's easy pickings.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 604x453]

Here's a picture of me and some of my bros partying before the Ole Miss game.  Check out my madras shorts and of course, the Absolut.  Only the good stuff for me, Bo, Rhett, Gage, and Jackson.


My god! J.Crew just puked all over that picture.
 
2013-02-06 04:02:37 PM

Dr. Whoof: Actually, I sure do have a right to tell them. They don't have to listen, unless they get all "secessiony" again and then, well, they get told with bullets (and these days, missiles, artillery, etc).


What a wasted opportunity to use the term "fixin' to".
 
2013-02-06 04:02:39 PM

dukwbutter: Both Lincoln and Grant owned slaves. In his inaugural address of March 4, 1861, U.S. President Abraham Lincoln stated, "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so." Union General U.S. Grant said, "If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side."

So, yeah, it wasn't about slavery. The more you know...


So, what, the states were lying in their articles of secession? The hell did they mention slavery so much, if it wasn't about slavery at all?
 
2013-02-06 04:02:55 PM

Dr Dreidel: give me doughnuts: Dr Dreidel: You're from the South? Awesome - talk about biscuits and football and NASCAR and Texas oil and Florida/LA heat and have a silly accent and wear overalls and drink you some sweetea. DON'T, however, be proud of secession, civil war and slavery.

That's the point. Southerners aren't allowed to do any of that without having some assholes rub the rest of it in their faces. If you keep insulting people with something for long enough, they adopt it with pride just to be contrary and piss you off.

What kind of assholes do you hang out with? Living just outside DC for the better part of the last 20 years, I've met a million Southerners, and never once have I heard Northerners start bringing that shiat up to counter a Southerner's boast (unless a Southerner was being a dick about it) - most of us have moved on from the Civil War, mostly by not having reminders of the losing side's power structure every 30 feet.

EVERY culture has shameful parts of their history, full stop. When you start referencing that history, best to not recall those shameful parts. "Come to the South, we put 800g of sucrose in every glass of our tea!" will get a much better response than "Come to Norfolk, where we showed them Yankees what-fer!"


There are a lot of them in this thread.

/and sweet tea is gross
 
2013-02-06 04:03:30 PM

The Larch: succession


Meaning "No, you don't know the difference either?"
 
2013-02-06 04:03:39 PM

theflatline: Rapmaster2000: theflatline:

I will take a gentile southern gal over a northern gal any day.

I'm not surprised to hear that a Southerner refuses to date Jews.

I suggest you check out my beak, and that should have been genteel, as sometimes my spanish phonetics bleed over into my english spelling.

Spent much of my time at our local JCC as a youth, and gramps even has a temple in Panama named after him.


Well then you can't join our Club.  Sorry, but you're just not our sort.
 
2013-02-06 04:03:45 PM

Walker: Just in the local area of Virginia here we have Jefferson Davis Highway and Lee Highway (named after General Lee). Are we supposed to change those? There's also Jeb Stuart High School and other schools named after Confederates. A major tourist attraction in Mississippi is the home of Jefferson Davis. Should they bulldoze it? Stop trying to erase the past. Political correctness run amok.


Isn't there a statue of Nathan Bedford Forrest in Washington DC?
 
2013-02-06 04:05:03 PM

Rapmaster2000: give me doughnuts:

No, I'm calm, cool, and collected down here with all of these easy Southern women.  They like guys with money.

Good thing you know a few, then.

Yes, it is.  It's a my patented system which I call SCRAPS, which is not an acronym.  You see, after a young debutante fails once again to secure a proper husband, I move in to console her with promises of Broadway plays and indoor plumbing.  Let's just say it's easy pickings.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 604x453]

Here's a picture of me and some of my bros partying before the Ole Miss game.  Check out my madras shorts and of course, the Absolut.  Only the good stuff for me, Bo, Rhett, Gage, and Jackson.



Good stuff? Vodka?  Almost at tasteless as those shorts.
 
2013-02-06 04:05:16 PM

danfrank: This. Why so proud of causing the war that killed more than a half million Americans?


Because they were fighting for their way for life? For what they believe in?  They have every right to be proud.
 
2013-02-06 04:05:34 PM

GoldSpider: VendorXeno: Ah, I see your confusion. You can't distinguish between a trivial monument and historical facts. That's why when people who don't like a trivial monument to someone or something they don't respect replace it you think it's somehow able to erase all the history about the person that monument is dedicated to.

What confuses me is the amount of butthurt these "trivial monuments" seem to cause among the compulsively-offended.


What do you call people who are ALWAYS offended that someone would take offense to something?
 
2013-02-06 04:06:02 PM
Rapmaster2000: Yes, it is.  It's a my patented system which I call SCRAPS, which is not an acronym.  You see, after a young debutante fails once again to secure a proper husband, I move in to console her with promises of Broadway plays and indoor plumbing.  Let's just say it's easy pickings.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 604x453]

Here's a picture of me and some of my bros partying before the Ole Miss game.  Check out my madras shorts and of course, the Absolut.  Only the good stuff for me, Bo, Rhett, Gage, and Jackson.


That would work if even one person in that picture was wearing any sort of Ole Miss apparel.
 
2013-02-06 04:06:14 PM

Noam Chimpsky: There are still US cities named after British royalty.


A couple of states and many many counties no less.
 
2013-02-06 04:06:30 PM

Felgraf: dukwbutter: Felgraf: For fark's sake, have you even *read* the articles of succession?

For Fark's sake.  Do you even know the difference between "secession" and "succession"?  Guffaw!!!! Sucks having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

Aye, I mistyped in my initial post, I realize that.  Could you please address the following posts where I not only spell it correctly, but cite two of the articles of secession? And where I point out how they, loudly and frequently, address slavery as a reason for why they seceded.

I'd argue that screwing up a homophone doesn't really equal an unarmed opponent, but, surely if I am so inferior to yourself, you can explain away my subsequent posts?

I await your answer with bated (or baited: both spellings appear to be acceptable) breath, really and truly I do.


What are you? Homophonic?
 
2013-02-06 04:06:42 PM
give me doughnuts:

Good stuff? Vodka?  Almost at tasteless as those shorts.

4.bp.blogspot.com
We'll never give you a bid with that attitude.
 
2013-02-06 04:07:09 PM

VendorXeno: Actually, your quotes not withstanding, Lincoln still ran for president on an emancipation platform. See the Lincoln vs Douglas debates. And several southern states specifically stated that if Lincoln were to win the presidency, based on this particular plank of his platform, they would secede. And when he won, they did, and that was the stated reason. Isolated quotes can't erase historical fact. When dealing with history, you have to deal with all of it, not just tiny parts your prefer.


So, when he said the south could keep their slaves if they would just rejoin the Union....you would explain that how.  They're just "quotes".  I love how "quotes" are different from "historical facts".  Tell me more professor. :O
 
2013-02-06 04:07:14 PM

dukwbutter: Don't dare tell me what I can and can't be proud of.


I'll dare.

Don't be proud of marrying your sister.
Don't be proud of the BJ you gave that trucker last night.
Don't be proud of those curtains you bought at JC Penny's on sale.
Don't be proud of your genital warts.
Don't be proud of beating your sister/wife.
Don't be proud of that one time when your uncle dared you to superglue your eyelids shut and you did.
Don't be proud of that funny smell on your upper lip.
Don't be proud of having written the Twilight books.

This list could go on for a while...I'll let others add to it.
 
2013-02-06 04:07:19 PM

dukwbutter: Don't dare tell me what I can and can't be proud of. fark you. I'm proud of the secession of the South. fark the North. Lincoln and Grant both had slaves. fark you for telling me what I can be proud of.


Be proud of whatever you want. Don't expect the rest of us to start showering you with flowers and adoration for it, though.

// those are suggestions for good-neighboring, not absolute thou-shall-nots
// you're proud of the South's secession? Well, I'm proud the North kicked the South's sorry asses all the way to Vicksburg and back
// you may find that that pride does not endear you to most Americans - but I think you deserve to know this beforehand
 
2013-02-06 04:07:25 PM

dukwbutter: danfrank: This. Why so proud of causing the war that killed more than a half million Americans?

Because they were fighting for their way for life? For what they believe in?  They have every right to be proud.


And what "way of life" was that? Be specific, with examples of how the federal government was stopping them living this "way of life".
 
2013-02-06 04:08:58 PM

dukwbutter: The Larch: succession

Meaning "No, you don't know the difference either?"


You don't understand how the quote button works, do you?  Maybe you can be proud of that, too.
 
2013-02-06 04:09:41 PM

Dr. Whoof: They have plenty to be proud of. The Confederacy is not one of them. The Civil War is not one of them. The Confederate flag is not one of them.

We are proud of every one of these things. You have no right to tell Southerners what they are allowed to be proud of. fark you and the horse you rode in on.

Actually, I sure do have a right to tell them. They don't have to listen, unless they get all "secessiony" again and then, well, they get told with bullets (and these days, missiles, artillery, etc).

However, yeah, I have every right to say treating other human beings as property and essentially livestock, and fighting a war to that end, is nothing to be proud of. It's a heritage of evil. Instead, go be proud of GOOD things the south has done.


The North did all of those same things, j@ckass.  The North had slaves. Lincoln had slaves.  Grant had slaves.  You're trying to paint it as a southern invention. It was not.  farkwad.
 
2013-02-06 04:10:04 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Will someone please tell me what the positive legacies of Nathan Bedford Forrest were? What exactly is being honored? His profound ignorance? His slaughter of surrendered troops. His slave trading? His terrorism? What is the "legacy " that deserves anything beyond derision?


i1207.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-06 04:10:09 PM

Rapmaster2000: give me doughnuts:

No, I'm calm, cool, and collected down here with all of these easy Southern women.  They like guys with money.

Good thing you know a few, then.

Yes, it is.  It's a my patented system which I call SCRAPS, which is not an acronym.  You see, after a young debutante fails once again to secure a proper husband, I move in to console her with promises of Broadway plays and indoor plumbing.  Let's just say it's easy pickings.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 604x453]

Here's a picture of me and some of my bros partying before the Ole Miss game.  Check out my madras shorts and of course, the Absolut.  Only the good stuff for me, Bo, Rhett, Gage, and Jackson.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....so you're a sterotypical frat boy?  Nice.  Doesn't take money to dress like that or get those girls, just a pretentious sense of self worth.  A lot of people I know (from the south) have that same thing.  And those same shorts.

/Absolut, the good stuff? hahahaha....
//I bow to your comedy stylings sir.
 
2013-02-06 04:10:41 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Sons of Confederate Veterans

How old are these people?


A little younger than the Daughters of the American Revolution.
 
2013-02-06 04:10:52 PM

danfrank: dukwbutter: Felgraf: Hrm. Gee. I am positively stumped. I'm sure dukwbutter can explain how this is, in fact, not about slavery, though.

Both Lincoln and Grant owned slaves. In his inaugural address of March 4, 1861, U.S. President Abraham Lincoln stated, "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."  Union General U.S. Grant said, "If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side."

So, yeah, it wasn't about slavery. The more you know...

Abraham Lincoln owned slaves? Please provide a citation for that, because I think you're full of shiat.



When his family was in Kentucky, they were too poor for anything like that, and Illinois was a free state.
 
2013-02-06 04:10:57 PM

dukwbutter: So, when he said the south could keep their slaves if they would just rejoin the Union....you would explain that how.  They're just "quotes".  I love how "quotes" are different from "historical facts".  Tell me more professor. :O


Now this is interesting. If secession had nothing to do with slavery, then why on earth would Lincoln ever think to offer such a concession to reverse it? The very idea you're appealing to insists that you're wrong. So in short, if Lincoln was trying to double back on his emancipation platform to end secession, then secession clearly had something to do with slavery. Again, you're trying to use isolated elements to ignore facts, only now you're even screwing that up.
 
2013-02-06 04:10:57 PM

All2morrowsparTs: Joe Blowme: cynicalbastard: And soon, we will have the "And the War between the States had nothin' to do with Slavery, it was all about State's Rights and Import taxes!" crowd...

Will they be followed by the "Islam is a religion of peace" crowd?

/KKK & Islam = death cults

LOL WUT?!

/I won't go on to comparitive religion but of the 3 Abrahmic ones there is only one that diafies the death of its central figure.


"diafies?"
 
2013-02-06 04:11:33 PM
Perhaps we are talking at cross purposes here:

The South through a big hissy fit and decided to secede because they feared they would lose their slaves, and that the north was making it difficult for them to own slaves. Dukwbutter, do you agree or disagree?
(Note that I *can* cite the articles of secession again. Unless you feel they were lying when the wrote those?)

Meanwhile, the North waged a war to preserve the union, a war they feel the south instigated in protection of slavery. While the north did not enter the war with the intention of ending slavery, the south DID secede with the intention of KEEPING slavery.
 
2013-02-06 04:12:07 PM

dukwbutter: Dr. Whoof: They have plenty to be proud of. The Confederacy is not one of them. The Civil War is not one of them. The Confederate flag is not one of them.

We are proud of every one of these things. You have no right to tell Southerners what they are allowed to be proud of. fark you and the horse you rode in on.

Actually, I sure do have a right to tell them. They don't have to listen, unless they get all "secessiony" again and then, well, they get told with bullets (and these days, missiles, artillery, etc).

However, yeah, I have every right to say treating other human beings as property and essentially livestock, and fighting a war to that end, is nothing to be proud of. It's a heritage of evil. Instead, go be proud of GOOD things the south has done.

The North did all of those same things, j@ckass.  The North had slaves. Lincoln had slaves.  Grant had slaves.  You're trying to paint it as a southern invention. It was not.  farkwad.


You keep saying Lincoln had slaves. Where are you getting this?
 
2013-02-06 04:12:35 PM

danfrank: Abraham Lincoln owned slaves? Please provide a citation for that, because I think you're full of shiat.


Git some!!!  You freaking liberal yankees are getting a full does of truth today.  Sucks.  Nothing like what you learned in the history books, is it?  OMG they lied to me in school. Doh!  Suck it libtards!

http://www.dixiescv.org/slavery.html
 
2013-02-06 04:12:49 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: What do you call people who are ALWAYS offended puzzled that someone would take offense to something?


Just seems like a lot effort is wasted on stuff like this.  Your priorities may vary.
 
2013-02-06 04:13:13 PM

drumfreek: I love how most everybody here uses the typical Southern stereotype. All southern whites are racist. For you guys, I have seen some dumb motherfarkers in my life, but you take the cake.


The cake is a lie
 
2013-02-06 04:13:18 PM

Rapmaster2000: give me doughnuts:

Good stuff? Vodka?  Almost at tasteless as those shorts.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 719x493]
We'll never give you a bid with that attitude.



Good.
 
2013-02-06 04:13:55 PM

Rapmaster2000: give me doughnuts:

No, I'm calm, cool, and collected down here with all of these easy Southern women.  They like guys with money.

Good thing you know a few, then.

Yes, it is.  It's a my patented system which I call SCRAPS, which is not an acronym.  You see, after a young debutante fails once again to secure a proper husband, I move in to console her with promises of Broadway plays and indoor plumbing.  Let's just say it's easy pickings.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 604x453]

Here's a picture of me and some of my bros partying before the Ole Miss game.  Check out my madras shorts and of course, the Absolut.  Only the good stuff for me, Bo, Rhett, Gage, and Jackson.



From that picture I can tell you're a racist.
 
2013-02-06 04:14:54 PM

Felgraf: Perhaps we are talking at cross purposes here:

The South through a big hissy fit and decided to secede because they feared they would lose their slaves, and that the north was making it difficult for them to own slaves. Dukwbutter, do you agree or disagree?
(Note that I *can* cite the articles of secession again. Unless you feel they were lying when the wrote those?)

Meanwhile, the North waged a war to preserve the union, a war they feel the south instigated in protection of slavery. While the north did not enter the war with the intention of ending slavery, the south DID secede with the intention of KEEPING slavery.



But think about this question: Why did the South want to keep slavery going?
 
2013-02-06 04:15:51 PM

dukwbutter: The North did all of those same things, j@ckass.  The North had slaves. Lincoln had slaves.  Grant had slaves.  You're trying to paint it as a southern invention. It was not.  farkwad.


Yeah, but see, you don't see northerners screaming about "Northern pride" and wearing a Union battle flag and proclaiming "the South will burn again!".  Well, outside of being sarcastic in Fark threads.  It's not something people generally do.  The opposite, however, it alive and well south of the Mason-Dixon.

Though I admit this Union battle flag is pretty bad ass:
www.thegoodfight.us
 
2013-02-06 04:15:55 PM

Dr Dreidel: dukwbutter: Don't dare tell me what I can and can't be proud of. fark you. I'm proud of the secession of the South. fark the North. Lincoln and Grant both had slaves. fark you for telling me what I can be proud of.

Be proud of whatever you want. Don't expect the rest of us to start showering you with flowers and adoration for it, though.

// those are suggestions for good-neighboring, not absolute thou-shall-nots
// you're proud of the South's secession? Well, I'm proud the North kicked the South's sorry asses all the way to Vicksburg and back
// you may find that that pride does not endear you to most Americans - but I think you deserve to know this beforehand


I think it's pathetic that the white southern christian male is demonized. It's the last unprotected class of the politically correct.  Blacks. Gays. Jews. Anything is fine, so long as you're not a white southern christian male.  Then, all bets are off.
 
2013-02-06 04:15:56 PM

Nabb1: Rapmaster2000: Yes, it is.  It's a my patented system which I call SCRAPS, which is not an acronym.  You see, after a young debutante fails once again to secure a proper husband, I move in to console her with promises of Broadway plays and indoor plumbing.  Let's just say it's easy pickings.

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Here's a picture of me and some of my bros partying before the Ole Miss game.  Check out my madras shorts and of course, the Absolut.  Only the good stuff for me, Bo, Rhett, Gage, and Jackson.

That would work if even one person in that picture was wearing any sort of Ole Miss apparel.


My bad.  That was a home Vanderbilt game.  We came to see our bro, Jay Cutler.  I've tailgate with my bros at every school in the SEC except Kentucky (because why bother) and Miss State (because Miss State is in Starkville).
 
2013-02-06 04:16:04 PM

dukwbutter: Dr Dreidel: You're from the South? Awesome - talk about biscuits and football and NASCAR and Texas oil and Florida/LA heat and have a silly accent and wear overalls and drink you some sweetea. DON'T, however, be proud of secession, civil war and slavery. "Southern Pride" can be easily reappropriated to mean a Junetime march with rainbow flags.
You're from Germany? Awesome - even though I don't like weissbier, schnitzel is proof of god's love, I know a bit of the language, your people are polite (the few native-Germans I've ever met, anyway) and the endless jokes about sterile efficiency never fail to amuse. DON'T, however, start wistfully remembering WWII from the Kraut side. So long as you're not very "white power"-y, I think you'll be OK citing your German heritage.

Don't dare tell me what I can and can't be proud of. fark you. I'm proud of the secession of the South.  fark the North. Lincoln and Grant both had slaves.  fark you for telling me what I can be proud of.


Ahh, one of the proud Sons of the South in all his ignorant glory.
 
2013-02-06 04:16:31 PM

ScouserDuck: max_pooper: dukwbutter: That's right. Everyone can be proud of their heritage. Except for Southerners.  That seems fair, right?

They can be proud all they want but they shouldn't be surprised when people correctly point that their "heritage" is deeply rooted in destructive racism.

Whose isn't?


You know man, I did a Ctrl-F on this whole thread looking for somebody who addressed your question.
 
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