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(Lafayette Advertiser)   The city of Memphis votes to rename three city parks that honored the Confederacy and its leaders, including one named after the founder of the KKK. Sadly, even in this day and age, some people have a problem with that   (theadvertiser.com) divider line 589
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2013-02-06 03:03:42 PM  
When northern soldiers invaded the courthouse of Murfreesboro, TN, they made it their local headquarters. Forrest was informed by some local women that some male Confederate sympathizers were being held Murfreesboro. Forrest quietly invaded the town in the middle of the night. When his men found the jail on fire, they went in to rescue men. After several hours of fighting, he raided the courthouse.

And that's why they're called the MTSU Raiders.
The ROTC building is named after him as well.
 
2013-02-06 03:04:01 PM  

Onkel Buck: someonelse: Onkel Buck: It's more offensive that all the streets named after MLK usually run right through the worst crime infested neighborhoods

Not the worst.

[freebeacon.com image 798x498]

ohyou.jpg

/hating rich people is a learned behavior


Rich people are excellent teachers.
 
2013-02-06 03:04:11 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Alas, you have to hear me lament the lack of decent bagels while you wait on me at the Waffle House


I reckon that's your problem right there, fella. Any man with a head under his cap and one foot on each shoe can tell ya you don't get chicken feed by going to the cotton gin, and as sure as sugar is sweet, if you're looking to get sweet on Sally you don't dance with Darlene.
 
2013-02-06 03:04:46 PM  

max_pooper: They can be proud all they want but they shouldn't be surprised when people correctly point that their "heritage" is deeply rooted in destructive racism.


Last time I checked, the North had slaves also.  Oh, and the South didn't invent it. It's been around for as long as men have walked the earth. But yeah, let's all focus on hating Southerners. :O
http://www.slavenorth.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery
 
2013-02-06 03:04:48 PM  

Bartleby the Scrivener: at  least forrest sounds like a good loser.  tldr: suck it up, we lost. you'll get over it.

farewell letter to troops (wiki)


Forrest may have been a capable military commander who did his military duty with courage and honor. He was also a vicious racist who was a founder of the KKK.

Memorials (even something as simple as the name of a park) are inherently hagiographic--they celebrate an individual while glossing over or ignoring that individual's flaws, mistakes, and problems. They indicate that the subject of the memorial was a praiseworthy individual, and the glow of that praise encompasses--to a greater or lesser extent--everything that person did. That's why memorials to Forrest are inherently problematic.

I doubt you'll find a park anywhere in this country named after Benedict Arnold, despite the fact that he served the Continental Army with distinction between 1775 and 1779. Because to memorialize him in such a way would serve to diminish the enormity of his treason.
 
2013-02-06 03:04:49 PM  

SMB2811: All2morrowsparTs: dukwbutter: That's right. Everyone can be proud of their heritage. Except for Southerners.  That seems fair, right?

You celebrate treason as heritage?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_of_july


It's only treason if you lose the war.
 
2013-02-06 03:05:05 PM  

oldfarthenry: Nabb1: oldfarthenry: Nabb1: oldfarthenry: Ya know - I "could" point out that the star-spangled banner was a poem about a war you guys LOST!

/tries to deflect heat off them-there southern folk

You could, but you'd be wrong.

So the 'merikun mission statement of that war was to "run away whilst screaming like girls & pissing your pants"?

There's a spot not far from where I'm sitting where a few hundred men under Andrew Jackson turned a much larger force of the Crown's finest into alligator shiat.

And there's a whole country I'm sittin' in that you blowhards failed to conquer - on three attempts, I might add.


You must have fought quite valiantly in those battles. Did you receive any medals?
 
2013-02-06 03:05:19 PM  

Bartleby the Scrivener: Rapmaster2000: Alas, you have to hear me lament the lack of decent bagels while you wait on me at the Waffle House

I reckon that's your problem right there, fella. Any man with a head under his cap and one foot on each shoe can tell ya you don't get chicken feed by going to the cotton gin, and as sure as sugar is sweet, if you're looking to get sweet on Sally you don't dance with Darlene.


Apropos of nothing, I read that in Uncle Ruckus's voice.

You are now reading this text in Uncle Ruckus's voice.
 
2013-02-06 03:05:28 PM  

ph0rk: doczoidberg: Friggin' South.

You bastards have nothing to be proud of. Understand???

fark you, carpetbagger.

More bourbon, barbecue, and hush puppies for me us.


Let's not get carried away.
 
2013-02-06 03:06:05 PM  

scout48: Those people fought for what that state believed in.  Agree or disagree, I respect that. So many have forgotten that slavery was only a part of the civil war. We were a country that only a generation or two before had fought to be free from an oppressive government. Many were just pissed off that the new government, not as old as their fathers and grandfathers, was already telling them what to do. Many of the wealthy and influential feared their livelihood would be destroyed. Perspective helps. Any person denying slavery was a big part of the Civil War is an idiot. Any one who says it was the only factor is just as big of an idiot. The south believed they were being oppressed and fought to end that perceived oppression. The only difference in the south and the Revolutionary Colonials (who were slave owners) is that the Colonials won. Had they lost we would all be talking about what murderous and treasonous asses we all were as we toasted long live the queen.


So, just to be clear, you'd be cool with parks named in honor of the 9/11 hijackers too, right?  They were fighting for what they believed in, however abhorrent.  That's, you know, what you seem to be saying, that because they believed in what they were doing, it absolves them of responsibility for their actions.

You know who else I think you'd be ok with a park named after?
 
2013-02-06 03:06:22 PM  

MagSeven: RealityChuck: Nathan Bedford Forrest was an advocate for Civil Rights after the war.  Read the article.

Notably this speech to the organization that later became the NAACP:

Ladies and Gentlemen I accept the flowers as a memento of reconciliation between the white and colored races of the southern states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady, for if there is any one on God's earth who loves the ladies I believe it is myself. ( Immense applause and laughter.) I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man to depress none. (Applause.) I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going. I have not said anything about politics today. I don't propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I'll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand. (Prolonged applause.)

Wow, I did not know that.



It's not as impressive as it sounds. He was making a speech to a black audience, in an attempt to win black voters. He did bugger all to further their civil rights. Read it in context.
 
2013-02-06 03:06:28 PM  

Mr. Cat Poop: Brick-House: How about naming one the Robert Byrd Memorial Park?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x275]

He already got this named after him.
[i.huffpost.com image 570x238]

/Been to the top of it.


Every building, road, tree and rock in West Virginia is already named after him.

Hell, they should just call it "The Robert C. Byrd State of West Virginia".
 
2013-02-06 03:07:03 PM  
cynicalbastard: And soon, we will have the "And the War between the States had nothin' to do with Slavery, it was all about State's Rights and Import taxes!" crowd...

Well that is the typical Libertarian POV on this.
 
2013-02-06 03:07:14 PM  

CheekyMonkey: dukwbutter: That's right. Everyone can be proud of their heritage. Except for Southerners. That seems fair, right?

Remind me again what they have to be proud of? I mean, aside for the systematic subjugation, oppression and dehumanization of a group of people with darker skin, of course...


I love this.  The North had slaves. And to look at a group of people and say that they have nothing to be proud of.  Classic.  Love this.  Thanks for showing your colors.
Q: How many liberals does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: You're a racist.
 
2013-02-06 03:07:15 PM  
 Just name the gatdanged Park after Colonel Angus and be done with it, you honkey assed crackers.  You know the brother don't wan' nothin' to do with no Colonel Angus.
 
2013-02-06 03:07:44 PM  

ArtosRC: doczoidberg: Friggin' South. You bastards have nothing to be proud of. Understand???

Precisely. The traitors need to be kicked in the pants.


So .... you hate all Americans?  Especially that arch-traitor John Hancock?
 
2013-02-06 03:07:47 PM  

ph0rk: Heh, no, but I wish more people would have farking noticed what it was changed to.


They noticed, you have no idea the trouble and outrage it took to change it from the Stars and Bars, it was one of those lesser of 2 evils things.  At least now every government building doesn't look like it is holding a Klan rally.
 
2013-02-06 03:08:14 PM  

Onkel Buck: someonelse: Onkel Buck: It's more offensive that all the streets named after MLK usually run right through the worst crime infested neighborhoods

Not the worst.

[freebeacon.com image 798x498]

ohyou.jpg

/hating rich people is a learned behavior


So is hating black people.

See: Any playground with children of different races.
 
2013-02-06 03:08:15 PM  

quiet_american: The irrationality in this thread is really depressing.

Everyone comments as though they are the supreme overlord of Memphis, that they are the final word on history, that no other viewpoint than theirs is correct.

It is much better and wiser to let regions of this enormous country showcase what they want. If Memphis wants to make a memorial to Gen. Forrest, let them. If 200 years later they want to tear it down, let them. If pro-Confederate groups want to agitate against the changes, let them. Let them persuade the people of Memphis.

Yet people in here have this tyrant's attitude, which has become the new norm apparently, to just swallow the mainstream version of history uncritically and then try to barf it back in soundbites to validate whatever center-left political action is taken.

It's a good thing that regions of this country don't accept or fit into the mainstream of American society and history. It shows that we can tolerate disagreement. We can express our disagreements without loudly demanding absolutist positions and through the exertion of faux moral highground to validate our political desires.


Why, that sounds *reasonable.* GRAB THE TAR N FEATHERS, BOYS!

/nicely written
 
2013-02-06 03:08:43 PM  

ph0rk: Karac: Good luck, non-racist Memphisites.  I remember the kerfuffle over taking the confederate flag off the state house in South Carolina.  It cost the governor the re-election and at the end of the day, it was moved all the way from the top of the building to .... a statue on the front lawn.

Don't forget the resemblance of the state flag of Georgia to the CSA flag (not the battle flag).


CSA flag:
[upload.wikimedia.org image 500x278]
Georgia state flag:
[upload.wikimedia.org image 500x313]


That was awesome.  So Governor Goober promised Georgians that if elected he would change the flag back to the battle flag even though he was constitutionally prevented from doing so.  Upon election, he reveals that (sad trombone) he doesn't have the power to do so, but he would if he could.

www.georgiaheritagecouncil.org

So we got this stereotypical image.
 
2013-02-06 03:09:00 PM  
I've asked folks what "Southern Pride" stands for, and most answers are some form of "being proud of your heritage."

Just remember that White Southern heritage is basically succeeding from the Union because you wanted to continue to keep other human beings as slaves.
 
2013-02-06 03:09:22 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: karnal: HotWingConspiracy: karnal: Onkel Buck: It's more offensive that all the streets named after MLK usually run right through the worst crime infested neighborhoods

What is interesting is that when the streets were originally named after MLK, they did not run right through the worse part of town.  Over time they became the worse.  Wonder why that is?

Likely due to racists in local government.


Here are our local officials.....see if you can you spot the racists?

http://www.cityofmobile.org/govt.php

When was the street named?



Late 70's....maybe early 80's....there are a lot of houses along this stretch that were very nice back then too....now sit abandoned or needing to be demolished.
Maybe all the white people decided to move than live on a street named after Mr King.....I don't know.  It would be interesting to find out though.
 
2013-02-06 03:09:30 PM  

Tom_Slick: ph0rk: Heh, no, but I wish more people would have farking noticed what it was changed to.

They noticed, you have no idea the trouble and outrage it took to change it from the Stars and Bars, it was one of those lesser of 2 evils things.  At least now every government building doesn't look like it is holding a Klan rally.


No, it just looks like the inhabitants are quietly waiting for the South to rise again.

Further, you could plaster the CSA flag on pickups and cheap tshirts all over the country and hardly anyone would get pissed.
 
2013-02-06 03:09:53 PM  

mbillips: MagSeven: RealityChuck: Nathan Bedford Forrest was an advocate for Civil Rights after the war.  Read the article.

Notably this speech to the organization that later became the NAACP:

Ladies and Gentlemen I accept the flowers as a memento of reconciliation between the white and colored races of the southern states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady, for if there is any one on God's earth who loves the ladies I believe it is myself. ( Immense applause and laughter.) I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man to depress none. (Applause.) I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going. I have not said anything about politics today. I don't propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I'll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand. (Prolonged applause.) ...


Drats. I wanted to take it at face value with him having no ulterior motives.
/silly me!
//thanks for the link
 
2013-02-06 03:10:14 PM  

Onkel Buck: someonelse: Onkel Buck: It's more offensive that all the streets named after MLK usually run right through the worst crime infested neighborhoods

Not the worst.

[freebeacon.com image 798x498]

ohyou.jpg

/hating rich people is a learned behavior


Fail.  You don't have to teach a dog to want another dog's bone.
 
2013-02-06 03:10:46 PM  

oldfarthenry: darth_badger: [www4.pictures.zimbio.com image 431x594]
"Rename all the parks but make sure to take out all the basketball courts."

Can I politely ask who/what the f**k is that?



Uncle Ruckus ... no relation.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/362353100/the-uncle-ruckus-movie
 
2013-02-06 03:11:02 PM  

dukwbutter: max_pooper: They can be proud all they want but they shouldn't be surprised when people correctly point that their "heritage" is deeply rooted in destructive racism.

Last time I checked, the North had slaves also.  Oh, and the South didn't invent it. It's been around for as long as men have walked the earth. But yeah, let's all focus on hating Southerners. :O
http://www.slavenorth.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery



Yeah, but the North got better; only Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky and Missouri (and DC) allowed slavery in 1861. And they didn't secede from the Union and fight a bloody war in order to preserve slavery. Cannibalism and rape have been around as long as men have walked the earth, too.
 
2013-02-06 03:11:09 PM  

dukwbutter: That's right. Everyone can be proud of their heritage. Except for Southerners.  That seems fair, right?


...and the Germans. Don't forget them...
 
2013-02-06 03:11:10 PM  

dukwbutter: CheekyMonkey: dukwbutter: That's right. Everyone can be proud of their heritage. Except for Southerners. That seems fair, right?

Remind me again what they have to be proud of? I mean, aside for the systematic subjugation, oppression and dehumanization of a group of people with darker skin, of course...

I love this.  The North had slaves. And to look at a group of people and say that they have nothing to be proud of.  Classic.  Love this.  Thanks for showing your colors.
Q: How many liberals does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: You're a racist.


If the civil war was, in fact, about states rights, then why did the south actively and repeatedly (when they were part of the union) attempt to deny the states rights of the *northen* states, with shiat like the fugitive slave act?
 
2013-02-06 03:11:29 PM  

ph0rk: CheekyMonkey: A good point for a different discussion.  It, however, doesn't address my original question, unless you're trying to say that subjugating Africans was OK by virtue of the fact that we'd already subjugated the Native Americans.

It is a reaction (and a just one, I think) to the relatively naive comment that the South and Southerns have nothing to be proud of.

The rest of the country has farked up and acted like dicks in the past (Native Americans, Japanese Americans in WWII, etc), but they're proud of plenty (of other things).


The rest of the country doesn't name parks and fly flags celebrating this evil shiat.  Maybe the south should take a farking hint and move into the 21st century with the rest of the country.  Take your little boy rebel underwear off the god damn capital buildings and stop whining every time someone forces you to scrub some horribly racist shiat out of the public eye.
 
2013-02-06 03:11:37 PM  

zarberg: I've asked folks what "Southern Pride" stands for, and most answers are some form of "being proud of your heritage."

Just remember that White Southern heritage is basically succeeding from the Union because you wanted to continue to keep other human beings as slaves.


Uneducated people will give uneducated answers to a similar question regardless of what part of the country they are from.
 
2013-02-06 03:11:55 PM  

CheekyMonkey: A good point for a different discussion. It, however, doesn't address my original question, unless you're trying to say that subjugating Africans was OK by virtue of the fact that we'd already subjugated the Native Americans.


CheekyMonkey, you seem to miss somehow that the North had slaves also.  Not only that, but the Civil war wasn't about slavery.  Lincoln told the South they could keep their slaves if they'd just stay in the Union.  Also, the Emancipation freed only the slaves in the South, not the Slaves in the North. The more you know. ;)

Not really so cheeky now are we?  More like a politically correct fool.
 
2013-02-06 03:13:39 PM  

Brick-House: How about naming one the Robert Byrd Memorial Park?


I don't understand.  Why do you think a city in Tennessee should name a park for a Senator from West Virginia?
 
2013-02-06 03:13:47 PM  

Spaced Cowboy: ph0rk: CheekyMonkey: A good point for a different discussion.  It, however, doesn't address my original question, unless you're trying to say that subjugating Africans was OK by virtue of the fact that we'd already subjugated the Native Americans.

It is a reaction (and a just one, I think) to the relatively naive comment that the South and Southerns have nothing to be proud of.

The rest of the country has farked up and acted like dicks in the past (Native Americans, Japanese Americans in WWII, etc), but they're proud of plenty (of other things).

The rest of the country doesn't name parks and fly flags celebrating this evil shiat.  Maybe the south should take a farking hint and move into the 21st century with the rest of the country.  Take your little boy rebel underwear off the god damn capital buildings and stop whining every time someone forces you to scrub some horribly racist shiat out of the public eye.


Uh. The town of Forsyth, Montana is named after the US commander at Wounded Knee.
 
2013-02-06 03:13:49 PM  

max_pooper: The State of Texas officially observes (with state employees getting a paid day off) Confederate Heroes Day, Martin Luther King Day and Emancipation Day In Texas.


Apologies if this is a repeat, but bullshiat. We get MLK day like everyone else. I have never heard of those other two.

/some of us down here are still sane
 
2013-02-06 03:13:53 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: HotWingConspiracy: Mid_mo_mad_man: Forrest did not start the KKK that existed in the 1950's. The klan he founded died out fairly quickly.

Well that hardly deserves a park naming.



Being a brilliant military commander does. Btw the federal armies did not defeat Lee. Northern manufacturing & the USA Navy did


I doubt we'll see Rommel park anytime soon.

It doesn't matter how good at his job he was. He fought on the side of evil. The evil side doesn't deserve statues. None.
 
2013-02-06 03:14:12 PM  

Bartleby the Scrivener


I reckon that's your problem right there, fella. Any man with a head under his cap and one foot on each shoe can tell ya you don't get chicken feed by going to the cotton gin, and as sure as sugar is sweet, if you're looking to get sweet on Sally you don't dance with Darlene.


Okay, who let Ross Perot in here??
 
2013-02-06 03:14:13 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Farce-Side: CheekyMonkey: dukwbutter: That's right. Everyone can be proud of their heritage. Except for Southerners.  That seems fair, right?

Remind me again what they have to be proud of?  I mean, aside for the systematic subjugation, oppression and dehumanization of a group of people with darker skin, of course...

So, the same thing the rest of the country has to be proud of then?  (Native Americans ring a bell?)

Benjamin Orr: CheekyMonkey: dukwbutter: That's right. Everyone can be proud of their heritage. Except for Southerners.  That seems fair, right?

Remind me again what they have to be proud of?  I mean, aside for the systematic subjugation, oppression and dehumanization of a group of people with darker skin, of course...

You mean the Indians?

A good point for a different discussion.  It, however, doesn't address my original question, unless you're trying to say that subjugating Africans was OK by virtue of the fact that we'd already subjugated the Native Americans.



If they'd been a little more disease resistant, the European colonists wouldn't have imported Africans.
 
2013-02-06 03:14:20 PM  
The "states rights" rationalization always makes me chuckle, as it was the federal government's refusal to enforce the fugitive slave act that was such a big issue at the time. You know, where the federal government would force northern states to return slaves escaped from southern states. Kinda the opposite of states rights if you ask me.

Or maybe we can ask R.E. Lee. When asked by Lincoln to command the Army of Potomac he replied, "I look upon secession as anarchy. If I owned the four millions of slaves at the South, I would sacrifice them all to the Union; but how can I draw my sword upon Virginia, my native state?"

So he seemed to think freeing the slaves would have solved everything. But what did he know?
 
2013-02-06 03:14:27 PM  

dukwbutter: CheekyMonkey, you seem to miss somehow that the North had slaves also. Not only that, but the Civil war wasn't about slavery. Lincoln told the South they could keep their slaves if they'd just stay in the Union. Also, the Emancipation freed only the slaves in the South, not the Slaves in the North. The more you know. ;)

Not really so cheeky now are we? More like a politically correct fool.


Yes it was. The North did not go to war to prevent slavery, but the south sure as hell went to war because they feared it would be eliminated.

For fark's sake, have you even *read* the articles of succession?

Political correctness isn't really tied to any part of the political spectrum. (see: 'Homicide Bombers'), and "No no it was about STATES RIGHTS! Slavery played no part!" is a *STUNNING* example of it.
 
2013-02-06 03:14:47 PM  

Galloping Galoshes: All2morrowsparTs: Noam Chimpsky: There are still US cities States named after British royalty.

Maryland, Virginia, the Carolinas, Delaware, and Georgia.

Still?  Are you proposing they change?


No. Not at all. Not even the cities. You see that is actual heritage. We were made up of French, Dutch, English, Spanish and Russian colonies as well as the Indingenous Nations before that and the names of our States and Cities reflect that.
 
2013-02-06 03:16:02 PM  

ph0rk: oldfarthenry: darth_badger: [www4.pictures.zimbio.com image 431x594]
"Rename all the parks but make sure to take out all the basketball courts."

Can I politely ask who/what the f**k is that?

A person dressed up like Uncle Ruckus:

[i317.photobucket.com image 600x750]



No it's the REAL Uncle Ruckus, Gary Anthony Williams, in costume at the NAACP Image awards promoting the new movie project.

http://youtu.be/XCVrZ10tFT0 - Uncle Ruckus at the NAACP Image Awards - NSFW
 
2013-02-06 03:16:10 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: Maybe we should start naming things after British Reveloutionary War Generals in New England and American-Mexican Mexican Generals in the Southwest.

How about the Benedict Arnaold Memorial Park.


we got a monument in NY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_Monument">http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Boot_Monument
 
2013-02-06 03:16:23 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: Philip Francis Queeg: Will someone please tell me what the positive legacies of Nathan Bedford Forrest were? What exactly is being honored? His profound ignorance? His slaughter of surrendered troops. His slave trading? His terrorism? What is the "legacy " that deserves anything beyond derision?

His Cameo in Forrest Gump?


"They'd all dress up in their robes and their bedsheets and act like a bunch of ghosts or spooks or something. They'd even put  bedsheets on their horses and ride around. And anyway, that's how I got my name. Forrest Gump. Momma said that the Forrest part was to remind me that sometimes we all do things that, well, just don't make no sense."

And the South continues the tradition of things that, well, don't make no sense.
 
2013-02-06 03:16:25 PM  
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2013-02-06 03:16:26 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Yes how dare we not tolerate slavery, racism and treason. Those things shouldn't be considered in any way offensive. We must continue to honor those associated with those noble causes.


"Those who fail to learn erase the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them."
 
2013-02-06 03:16:53 PM  

dukwbutter: And to look at a group of people and say that they have nothing to be proud of.


They have plenty to be proud of.  The Confederacy is  not one of them.  The Civil War is  not one of them.  The Confederate flag is  not one of them.

It's not so much having pride, it's being proud of something profoundly and forever linked to the concept of owning other human beings and treating them as property.  That's, sorry, just not something to be proud of.

There's plenty of other things the south could be proud of, but this is like a millstone they wear around their necks and act like it's made of gold.
 
2013-02-06 03:16:53 PM  
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2013-02-06 03:17:18 PM  

drumfreek: I love how most everybody here uses the typical Southern stereotype. All southern whites are racist. For you guys, I have seen some dumb motherfarkers in my life, but you take the cake.


Not all Southern Whites are racist but all Southern Whites that name thier parks after Confederate Generals are.
 
2013-02-06 03:17:56 PM  

RedT: max_pooper: The State of Texas officially observes (with state employees getting a paid day off) Confederate Heroes Day, Martin Luther King Day and Emancipation Day In Texas.

Other fun fact - Confederate Heroes Day and Martin Luther King Day are during the same week and sometimes on the same day!  But don't tell a Texas there is anything ironic about this schedule or you WILL get an angry States' Rights speech


Austinite? And totally hawt?
How YOU doin'?
 
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