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2013-02-06 08:05:22 AM  
Yeah, but he's like porn for hypochondriacs.
 
2013-02-06 09:44:15 AM  
Who knew housewives with very little education would fall victim to bad health advice because it's on the TV?
 
2013-02-06 10:38:52 AM  
I take my TV doctor advice from Dr. Johnny Fever.

/boooger!
 
2013-02-06 10:44:04 AM  
Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor.  Can't believe you would call him a quack.

ftfa:

Oz graduated from Harvard University in 1982. Four years later, he received joint medical and M.B.A. degrees from the University of Pennsylvania. He then moved to Columbia and New York-Presbyterian Hospital, where, as a surgeon specializing in heart transplants, he has served as vice-chairman and professor in the department of surgery for more than twenty years. (He still performs operations there each Thursday.) Oz also directs Columbia's Cardiovascular Institute and Integrative Medicine Program, which he established in 1994, and has published scores of articles on technical issues, such as how to preserve muscle tissue during mitral-valve replacements. He holds a patent on a solution that can preserve organs and one on an aortic valve that can be implanted without highly invasive open-heart surgery
 
2013-02-06 10:46:13 AM  
I don't even take the word of my own doctor without doing some research myself.
 
2013-02-06 10:51:19 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor.  Can't believe you would call him a quack.

ftfa:

Oz graduated from Harvard University in 1982. Four years later, he received joint medical and M.B.A. degrees from the University of Pennsylvania. He then moved to Columbia and New York-Presbyterian Hospital, where, as a surgeon specializing in heart transplants, he has served as vice-chairman and professor in the department of surgery for more than twenty years. (He still performs operations there each Thursday.) Oz also directs Columbia's Cardiovascular Institute and Integrative Medicine Program, which he established in 1994, and has published scores of articles on technical issues, such as how to preserve muscle tissue during mitral-valve replacements. He holds a patent on a solution that can preserve organs and one on an aortic valve that can be implanted without highly invasive open-heart surgery


Yes, but when he hawks shiat like this:

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/miracle-fat-burner-bottle

He is no more than a snake oil salesman out to bamboozle a gullible public.
 
2013-02-06 11:01:43 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor.  Can't believe you would call him a quack.


Despite being a well respected cardiologist in his real practice, he's a quack on TV.
 
2013-02-06 11:23:34 AM  
Well, he did serve in the Turkish army & has a  funny first name.
 
2013-02-06 11:28:48 AM  
Of course he's a fake:

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2013-02-06 11:39:41 AM  
Damn, Subby. Really? Next, you'll be telling me that Captain Kangaroo was neither a Captain, or a Kangaroo.
 
2013-02-06 11:45:46 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Captain Kangaroo was neither a Captain, or a Kangaroo.


He was a Marine Core Seal who fought the Germans at Iwo Jima.  I saw it on the internet.
 
2013-02-06 11:49:56 AM  

ignatius_crumbcake: tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor.  Can't believe you would call him a quack.

ftfa:

Oz graduated from Harvard University in 1982. Four years later, he received joint medical and M.B.A. degrees from the University of Pennsylvania. He then moved to Columbia and New York-Presbyterian Hospital, where, as a surgeon specializing in heart transplants, he has served as vice-chairman and professor in the department of surgery for more than twenty years. (He still performs operations there each Thursday.) Oz also directs Columbia's Cardiovascular Institute and Integrative Medicine Program, which he established in 1994, and has published scores of articles on technical issues, such as how to preserve muscle tissue during mitral-valve replacements. He holds a patent on a solution that can preserve organs and one on an aortic valve that can be implanted without highly invasive open-heart surgery

Yes, but when he hawks shiat like this:

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/miracle-fat-burner-bottle

He is no more than a snake oil salesman out to bamboozle a gullible public.


it's not just that...

this week it's "white bean extract is the miracle weight loss product"  the week before it was "Raspberry ketones are the miracle weight loss product" the week before it was "Green Coffee Extract is the miracle weight loss product" and so on.  If you ate the recommended daily dose of all the sh*t he says are miracle cures, it would cost you $3,000 a day and you'd be swallowing capsules from dawn to dusk.
 
2013-02-06 11:51:21 AM  

Timmy the Tumor: ignatius_crumbcake: tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor.  Can't believe you would call him a quack.

ftfa:

Oz graduated from Harvard University in 1982. Four years later, he received joint medical and M.B.A. degrees from the University of Pennsylvania. He then moved to Columbia and New York-Presbyterian Hospital, where, as a surgeon specializing in heart transplants, he has served as vice-chairman and professor in the department of surgery for more than twenty years. (He still performs operations there each Thursday.) Oz also directs Columbia's Cardiovascular Institute and Integrative Medicine Program, which he established in 1994, and has published scores of articles on technical issues, such as how to preserve muscle tissue during mitral-valve replacements. He holds a patent on a solution that can preserve organs and one on an aortic valve that can be implanted without highly invasive open-heart surgery

Yes, but when he hawks shiat like this:

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/miracle-fat-burner-bottle

He is no more than a snake oil salesman out to bamboozle a gullible public.

it's not just that...

this week it's "white bean extract is the miracle weight loss product"  the week before it was "Raspberry ketones are the miracle weight loss product" the week before it was "Green Coffee Extract is the miracle weight loss product" and so on.  If you ate the recommended daily dose of all the sh*t he says are miracle cures, it would cost you $3,000 a day and you'd be swallowing capsules from dawn to dusk.


Stupid Dr. Oz... Everyone knows that masturbating 37.5 times a day is the REAL miracle weight loss cure.
 
2013-02-06 11:53:06 AM  

Timmy the Tumor: ignatius_crumbcake: tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor.  Can't believe you would call him a quack.

ftfa:

Oz graduated from Harvard University in 1982. Four years later, he received joint medical and M.B.A. degrees from the University of Pennsylvania. He then moved to Columbia and New York-Presbyterian Hospital, where, as a surgeon specializing in heart transplants, he has served as vice-chairman and professor in the department of surgery for more than twenty years. (He still performs operations there each Thursday.) Oz also directs Columbia's Cardiovascular Institute and Integrative Medicine Program, which he established in 1994, and has published scores of articles on technical issues, such as how to preserve muscle tissue during mitral-valve replacements. He holds a patent on a solution that can preserve organs and one on an aortic valve that can be implanted without highly invasive open-heart surgery

Yes, but when he hawks shiat like this:

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/miracle-fat-burner-bottle

He is no more than a snake oil salesman out to bamboozle a gullible public.

it's not just that...

this week it's "white bean extract is the miracle weight loss product"  the week before it was "Raspberry ketones are the miracle weight loss product" the week before it was "Green Coffee Extract is the miracle weight loss product" and so on.  If you ate the recommended daily dose of all the sh*t he says are miracle cures, it would cost you $3,000 a day and you'd be swallowing capsules from dawn to dusk.


Ah, so it sounds like he's falling down the same rabbit hole a lot of professional TV personalities do...they start out fairly noble but eventually compromise their principles for the sake of ratings.
 
2013-02-06 11:58:45 AM  
I can't stand his daytime show.  The show's discussion of topics are highly superficial.  On several occasions, they've had very important questions come up that are ignored because they're on such a tight time schedule to move onto the next topic.

Then there are the commercials.  Holy fark, they play a lot of commercials.  It is completely unbearable without the DVR.


/would rather watch or listen to a show with Dr. Drew Pinsky
 
2013-02-06 12:05:19 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Stupid Dr. Oz... Everyone knows that masturbating 37.5 times a day is the REAL miracle weight loss cure.


No wonder Jenny Craig always looks so happy.
 
2013-02-06 12:12:41 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Damn, Subby. Really? Next, you'll be telling me that Captain Kangaroo was neither a Captain, or a Kangaroo.


He dated Anne Frank as well, thought I still don't know what she saw in him. Or how.
 
2013-02-06 12:14:23 PM  

MisterTweak: FirstNationalBastard: Damn, Subby. Really? Next, you'll be telling me that Captain Kangaroo was neither a Captain, or a Kangaroo.

He dated Anne Frank as well, thought I still don't know what she saw in him. Or how.


He could play a mean game of hide and seek?
 
2013-02-06 12:18:03 PM  
Second clue: He was on Oprah Winfrey's show, a mecca for quacks.
 
2013-02-06 12:21:34 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor. Can't believe you would call him a quack.

ftfa:

Oz graduated from Harvard University in 1982.

..

He clearly got in on Affirmative Action.  Like Obama.

Has anyone seen this MEHMET Oz guy's transcripts?  Or birth certificate?
 
2013-02-06 12:22:42 PM  

kid_icarus: Ah, so it sounds like he's falling down the same rabbit hole a lot of professional TV personalities do...they start out fairly noble but eventually compromise their principles for the sake of ratings.


The issue I have is how he presents things...

What an ethical Dr. would say is "There is a very limited-scope study that suggests that _______ may be able to help people lose weight/lower their cholesterol/reduce their chances of heart disease.  No clinical trials have been done, and further studies need to be conducted, but if you're interested in trying it, this is the dosage they used in the study."

What Oz says is "This is THE greatest thing ever.  Want to lose weight/etc?  Studies SHOW that this works.  Take 1000mg of this three times a day, and this is the brand I recommend."

I have a number of idiot relatives who rush out to GNC every time this dickhead recommends something new, always saying "Dr. Oz says..."


He might be an accomplished cardiac surgeon, but if he pushed this kind of "science" in funded clinical trials, or attempted to publish it in a legitimate journal, his peers would eat him alive.
 
2013-02-06 12:22:55 PM  
He's the Michio Kaku of medicine; obviously intelligent, good in his field, but whores himself out to any camera filming for his field of expertise, and even outside of it.  I'm not discounting that Kaku may be a good physicist, but he just shows up on anything, from real science shows to "Prophets of Science Fiction," and while he's obviously excited about science, he just doesn't have the panache of a Sagan or deGrasse Tyson.
 
2013-02-06 12:31:11 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor.  Can't believe you would call him a quack.


Can't he be both?

/not subby
 
2013-02-06 12:33:02 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor.  Can't believe you would call him a quack.


I do believe you're trolling, but in case you're not:

"Oz sighed. 'Medicine is a very religious experience,' he said. 'I have my religion and you have yours.'"
 
2013-02-06 12:33:51 PM  
From near the bottom of the article:

On October 17th, Oz broadcast a program titled "GMO Foods: Are They Dangerous to Your Health?" Oz was not subtle. "You're probably eating them right now and don't even know," he began, darkly invoking "the brave new world of food. Are they safe?" Oz then introduced Jeffrey Smith, the author of "Genetic Roulette," who says that engineered foods may cause many serious diseases, including colitis, asthma, and cancer. Smith has also made a film version of the book; Oz, for the sake of full disclosure, noted that "my wife, Lisa, was a narrator in Jeffrey's film." He added that no scientists were willing to share the stage with Smith. "So today we are doing something we have never done before," Oz said. "After Jeffrey makes his points, he has to leave the stage before we can speak with the scientists in favor of genetically modified foods." Other than to say that Smith was controversial, Oz did not indicate why no scientists would appear with him.

When I asked Lisa about her involvement, she said that Smith presented a point of view that needed to be heard, and that the safety of genetically modified foods has not been proved. "I think Mehmet and I both feel, in general, that our mission is to empower the viewer or reader," she said. "To give them the most information and the greatest number of tools they can use to make their own choices."

On the show, Oz identified Smith as a scientist, but Smith has no experience in genetics or agriculture, and has no scientific degree from any institution. He studied business at the Maharishi International University, founded by the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Before the show aired, Bruce Chassy, a noted molecular biologist, wrote to Oz; he is a founder of Academics Review, a group of researchers who often debunk popular scientific claims. Chassy is professor emeritus in the department of food science and human nutrition at the University of Illinois. "As a public-sector scientist, researcher, and academic administrator with more than forty years' experience, I am appalled that any medical professional would give a platform to the likes of Mr. Jeffrey Smith to impart health information to the public," Chassy wrote. "His only professional experience prior to taking up his crusade against biotechnology is as a ballroom-dance teacher, yogic flying instructor, and political candidate for the Maharishi cult's natural-law party."


Yeah, I'm going to have to call him a quack.
 
2013-02-06 12:34:52 PM  

th0th: He's the Michio Kaku of medicine; obviously intelligent, good in his field, but whores himself out to any camera filming for his field of expertise, and even outside of it.  I'm not discounting that Kaku may be a good physicist, but he just shows up on anything, from real science shows to "Prophets of Science Fiction," and while he's obviously excited about science, he just doesn't have the panache of a Sagan or deGrasse Tyson.


That's typical of lots of experts.  If you're good in one field, people mistakenly believe they are experts in every field.  My graduate adviser was very knowledgeable about software engineering, yet that made him believe he's an expert in non-related fields.  He once told me "I've read some papers on economics, and they don't know what they are talking about".
 
2013-02-06 12:35:38 PM  
But he wears scrubs!  That's how you know he's a doctor.
 
2013-02-06 12:35:47 PM  
Senor Chang from Community is also a real doctor from Tulane, but instead of practicing he choses to shoe his tiny penis in the hang over movies.
 
2013-02-06 12:35:47 PM  
His daughter is kind of cute though.
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2013-02-06 12:36:55 PM  

syberpud: th0th: He's the Michio Kaku of medicine; obviously intelligent, good in his field, but whores himself out to any camera filming for his field of expertise, and even outside of it.  I'm not discounting that Kaku may be a good physicist, but he just shows up on anything, from real science shows to "Prophets of Science Fiction," and while he's obviously excited about science, he just doesn't have the panache of a Sagan or deGrasse Tyson.

That's typical of lots of experts.  If you're good in one field, people mistakenly believe they are experts in every field.  My graduate adviser was very knowledgeable about software engineering, yet that made him believe he's an expert in non-related fields.  He once told me "I've read some papers on economics, and they don't know what they are talking about".


Look at Fark.  While I'm certain that many of us are experts in forklift driving, I'm not certain that this translates well into foreign policy expertise.
 
2013-02-06 12:37:06 PM  
He sure talks all doctory sometimes. Let's see: Haaavad, Penn...nope, not a quack.
 
2013-02-06 12:40:39 PM  
 
2013-02-06 12:44:23 PM  
Frankly, I'm with Butters

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2013-02-06 12:46:04 PM  
Well, TV isn't an automatic quackifier. You've got Sanjay Gupta on TV too and he absolutely knows what the fark he's doing.
 
2013-02-06 12:47:25 PM  

intotheabyss81: His daughter is kind of cute though.
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Have her bathed and brought to my chambers.
 
2013-02-06 12:48:32 PM  

intotheabyss81: His daughter is kind of cute though.
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I can't stop looking at this picture for some reason...
 
2013-02-06 12:49:14 PM  
www.johnnygoodtimes.com

You see? It's ok, he saw it on the television.
 
2013-02-06 12:52:48 PM  

Sybarite: I don't even take the word of my own doctor without doing some research myself.

 
2013-02-06 12:52:53 PM  

Gosling: Well, TV isn't an automatic quackifier. You've got Sanjay Gupta on TV too and he absolutely knows what the fark he's doing.


Wow. That guy shilling prescription drugs on TV knows medicine, too?
 
2013-02-06 12:57:03 PM  
Article was a little long-winded without getting into some of the worst of what he does or endorses.

Look up skeptics guide to the universe or Steven novella and dr. Oz.

Oz endorses everything from charlatan psychics to various types of magic water (diluted water) and a wide range of hokum in between.

Following advice from his show can actually be harmful and detrimental to the health of people who choose to ignore or bypass actual scientific treatment to conditions they may have.
 
2013-02-06 12:57:44 PM  
My wife and her mother swear by this guy and it drives me crazy. Dr.Oz said this dr.Oz said that blah blah. I respect his credentials but he's a TV hack nothing more. I watched one of his show once and he began with this 10 min segment on how amazing this green filtered natural grass shiatcake is for cancer patients. It does blah and blah and reduces blah and blah for any woman with this cancer blah blah.. He fondled the greengrass shiat and made love to it for the entire first segment. He then spends 2 secs mentioning that Chemo is important and should not be replaced for treatment and be used with the green shiat.

I farking cant stand that guy.
 
2013-02-06 01:02:36 PM  
He's friendly with John Edwards and his wife practices Reiki and considers homeopathy "worth considering" and endorses "reparative therapy of homosexuals".  I wouldn't turn to him for advice. I'd turn to my golf buddies.

The apple juice bit was right for the wrong reasons. Kids shouldn't drink apple juice because ITS MOSTLY FRUCTOSE. Better off with water or flavored water.
 
2013-02-06 01:03:16 PM  
I surely know who he is, but I wouldn't be able to pick him out if a lineup and have never seen him on tv. People come into the pharmacy on a daily basis asking for whatever thing he's endorsing today and I always have to tell them, I don't know what it is. They're almost always like "It was on DR. OZ. How can you not know what it is?!?" He needs an 800 number people can call during his show to order that crap.
 
2013-02-06 01:05:32 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Timmy the Tumor: ignatius_crumbcake: tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor.  Can't believe you would call him a quack.

ftfa:

Oz graduated from Harvard University in 1982. Four years later, he received joint medical and M.B.A. degrees from the University of Pennsylvania. He then moved to Columbia and New York-Presbyterian Hospital, where, as a surgeon specializing in heart transplants, he has served as vice-chairman and professor in the department of surgery for more than twenty years. (He still performs operations there each Thursday.) Oz also directs Columbia's Cardiovascular Institute and Integrative Medicine Program, which he established in 1994, and has published scores of articles on technical issues, such as how to preserve muscle tissue during mitral-valve replacements. He holds a patent on a solution that can preserve organs and one on an aortic valve that can be implanted without highly invasive open-heart surgery

Yes, but when he hawks shiat like this:

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/miracle-fat-burner-bottle

He is no more than a snake oil salesman out to bamboozle a gullible public.

it's not just that...

this week it's "white bean extract is the miracle weight loss product"  the week before it was "Raspberry ketones are the miracle weight loss product" the week before it was "Green Coffee Extract is the miracle weight loss product" and so on.  If you ate the recommended daily dose of all the sh*t he says are miracle cures, it would cost you $3,000 a day and you'd be swallowing capsules from dawn to dusk.

Stupid Dr. Oz... Everyone knows that masturbating 37.5 times a day is the REAL miracle weight loss cure.


is the .5 due to your mom walking in on you?
 
2013-02-06 01:09:42 PM  
I like to make my wife spaz by using air quotes around Doctor whenever we talk about Oz, Phil and Gupta.

And don't get me started on "Judge" Judy.
 
2013-02-06 01:10:31 PM  
"Dr Oz won the James Randi Educational Foundation's Pigasus Award (Media section) in 2010 and 2011 for doing "such a disservice to his TV viewers by promoting quack medical practices that he is now the first person to win a Pigasus two years in a row."
 
2013-02-06 01:11:11 PM  

Some Bass Playing Guy: tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor.  Can't believe you would call him a quack.

Despite being a well respected cardiologist in his real practice, he's a quack on TV.


this.

He held a tv "debate" over the pros and cons of vaccination. Treat his advice the same as you would Dr. Phil's.
 
2013-02-06 01:14:02 PM  
He says that having 200 or more orgasms per year will extend your life.


I think I might be immortal.
 
2013-02-06 01:16:45 PM  

theflatline: Senor Chang from Community is also a real doctor from Tulane, but instead of practicing he choses to shoe his tiny penis in the hang over movies.


He was also the most and ONLY hilarious 5 minutes of Knocked Up.  The rest of that movie was shiat.  Bonus if you can watch the extended cut of his scene, where you could hear everyone else doing what they could not to lose their cool.
 
2013-02-06 01:20:11 PM  
Just playing to his audience I guess.

I'm not really convinced that they're interested in truth or good advice. They just want to hear they can drink tea and not be fat anymore.
 
2013-02-06 01:21:27 PM  

th0th: theflatline: Senor Chang from Community is also a real doctor from Tulane, but instead of practicing he choses to shoe his tiny penis in the hang over movies.

He was also the most and ONLY hilarious 5 minutes of Knocked Up.  The rest of that movie was shiat.  Bonus if you can watch the extended cut of his scene, where you could hear everyone else doing what they could not to lose their cool.


Hey Seth Rogen and Paul Rudd's banter was great
 
2013-02-06 01:26:10 PM  
Meh.
 
2013-02-06 01:31:10 PM  
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
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2013-02-06 01:31:51 PM  

th0th: He's the Michio Kaku of medicine; obviously intelligent, good in his field, but whores himself out to any camera filming for his field of expertise, and even outside of it.


Of course, the main difference is that Kaku isn't out actively acting as a spokesman for products of questionable merit.  At least not that I'm aware. He generally provides his insight on actual science.
 
2013-02-06 01:37:52 PM  
Mehmet Oz says that he yearns for the days "when our ancestors lived in small villages and there was always a healer in that village."

Oh, you mean the days when drinking mercury and bloodletting were considered valid treatments?
 
2013-02-06 01:42:04 PM  

EyeballKid: Wow. That guy shilling prescription drugs on TV knows medicine, too?


I don't know of anything Sanjay's shilling except a new show on TNT he's executive producing. Monday Mornings. Apparently it's based around a fictional hospital's weekly meetings where the staff gets called on the carpet one-by-one and told how they farked up over the past week.

Not a hospital-drama person, so couldn't tell you how it is.
 
2013-02-06 01:42:31 PM  

moothemagiccow: He held a tv "debate" over the pros and cons of vaccination. Treat his advice the same as you would Dr. Phil's.


Ha - Now that you mention Dr. Phil I realize that's who I've been picturing this whole thread so I clicked the article. I don't think I've ever seen this Dr. Oz guy. I've certainly heard the name, but I can't ever remember seeing him.
 
2013-02-06 01:44:41 PM  
"I'm a doctor, but I play a quack on TV."
 
2013-02-06 01:44:51 PM  
I never even knew what he looked like until I was stuck in a waiting room last month and he was on the TV. His head reminds me of a Punch and Judy puppet. I found it unnerving.
 
2013-02-06 01:45:04 PM  
Day in and day out, I have to listen to his devotees. I get emails detailing a list of the crap he's promoting the week ahead of time so I'm prepared for the wave of crazy. Some of the "fat melters" he suggests make we want to crack my skull open
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2013-02-06 01:51:04 PM  
If talking to people could actually heal them all we'd have to do is send a track of Morgan Freeman to everybody in the world and we'd never have medical problems again.

Protip: real doctors practicing real medicine usually have real offices and do real work, they don't play dress-up and sit around on Oprah's old couch telling you whatever dumbass thing you want to hear.
 
2013-02-06 01:52:12 PM  
He still spreads the bullshiat that cholesterol in your food directly leads to high blood cholesterol.
 
2013-02-06 01:53:55 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor.  Can't believe you would call him a quack.

ftfa:

Oz graduated from Harvard University in 1982. Four years later, he received joint medical and M.B.A. degrees from the University of Pennsylvania. He then moved to Columbia and New York-Presbyterian Hospital, where, as a surgeon specializing in heart transplants, he has served as vice-chairman and professor in the department of surgery for more than twenty years. (He still performs operations there each Thursday.) Oz also directs Columbia's Cardiovascular Institute and Integrative Medicine Program, which he established in 1994, and has published scores of articles on technical issues, such as how to preserve muscle tissue during mitral-valve replacements. He holds a patent on a solution that can preserve organs and one on an aortic valve that can be implanted without highly invasive open-heart surgery


And yet, in spite of that, he still shills for homeopathy and quackery.

That actually makes it worse.
 
2013-02-06 01:54:44 PM  
Here's how dickheads like Dr. Oz sleep at night: they make sure to use hedge words like "may" or "can." "Dung beetle balls may help fight cholesterol" only means that dung beetle balls are not proven not to help fight cholesterol (and "help" is another hedge).
 
2013-02-06 01:58:15 PM  

ignatius_crumbcake: FirstNationalBastard: Captain Kangaroo was neither a Captain, or a Kangaroo.

He was a Marine Core Seal who fought the Germans at Iwo Jima.  I saw it on the internet.


I think you're thinking of Mr. Rogers:  http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp
 
2013-02-06 01:58:50 PM  
A better write up and response to Oz's quackery:

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/a-skeptic-in-oz/
 
2013-02-06 02:00:38 PM  
I dunno. Some of the best advice Dr Oz gave was to stop using toilet paper and start using wipes. My bum thanks him.
 
2013-02-06 02:06:48 PM  

Robert1966: Here's how dickheads like Dr. Oz sleep at night: they make sure to use hedge words like "may" or "can." "Dung beetle balls may help fight cholesterol" only means that dung beetle balls are not proven not to help fight cholesterol (and "help" is another hedge).


Oh, yeah. Marketing major means those words are flashing red warning lights in my head. You can say damn near anything after 'help'. A car may help get you to the sun. Sure, if you undergo all the training to be an astronaut first, there's a space shuttle program and you're selected to go, a car a can help get you there... by transporting you from the hotel to the launch site so you can board the shuttle. And also there's no guarantee that you'll get BACK from the sun, but that part wasn't promised.
 
2013-02-06 02:09:52 PM  
But I can still rely on Dr. Phil for all my psychiatric needs, yes?
 
2013-02-06 02:10:22 PM  

Babbs: I dunno. Some of the best advice Dr Oz gave was to stop using toilet paper and start using wipes. My bum thanks him.


and so will your plumber when the pipes in your house get plugged up as a result of you flushing shiat down the toilet that doesn't belong there.
 
2013-02-06 02:18:21 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: But I can still rely on Dr. Phil for all my psychiatric needs, yes?


I hate that guy's voice.
 
2013-02-06 02:18:54 PM  

Gosling: Robert1966: Here's how dickheads like Dr. Oz sleep at night: they make sure to use hedge words like "may" or "can." "Dung beetle balls may help fight cholesterol" only means that dung beetle balls are not proven not to help fight cholesterol (and "help" is another hedge).

Oh, yeah. Marketing major means those words are flashing red warning lights in my head. You can say damn near anything after 'help'. A car may help get you to the sun. Sure, if you undergo all the training to be an astronaut first, there's a space shuttle program and you're selected to go, a car a can help get you there... by transporting you from the hotel to the launch site so you can board the shuttle. And also there's no guarantee that you'll get BACK from the sun, but that part wasn't promised.


17 years in radio, so I have become a constant student of marketing.  It simply amazes me the shady-ass way some ads are worded.  Between that and ridiculously fine print disclaimers, that are unrreadable unless its on Jerry Jones' big screen, I don't trust a damn thing for sale anymore.  When they started allowing prescription meds to advertise, all it did was create a style that allows snake-oil ads to appear more legit.
 
2013-02-06 02:20:26 PM  

Gosling: Robert1966: Here's how dickheads like Dr. Oz sleep at night: they make sure to use hedge words like "may" or "can." "Dung beetle balls may help fight cholesterol" only means that dung beetle balls are not proven not to help fight cholesterol (and "help" is another hedge).

Oh, yeah. Marketing major means those words are flashing red warning lights in my head. You can say damn near anything after 'help'. A car may help get you to the sun. Sure, if you undergo all the training to be an astronaut first, there's a space shuttle program and you're selected to go, a car a can help get you there... by transporting you from the hotel to the launch site so you can board the shuttle. And also there's no guarantee that you'll get BACK from the sun, but that part wasn't promised.


It's safer if you go at night.
 
2013-02-06 02:20:37 PM  

meanmutton: ignatius_crumbcake: FirstNationalBastard: Captain Kangaroo was neither a Captain, or a Kangaroo.

He was a Marine Core Seal who fought the Germans at Iwo Jima.  I saw it on the internet.

I think you're thinking of Mr. Rogers:  http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp


He was a heavily-tattooed child-molesting Navy Seal sniper in Vietnam
 
2013-02-06 02:21:28 PM  

23FPB23: It simply amazes me the shady-ass way some ads are worded


It amazes me that the average person is so mindnumbingly ignorant when it comes to how these wordings matter or how to glance at a study and get a good idea of what it actually shows and what it fails to show.  Given that people are this stupid, it is no surprise that folks want to take advantage of them.

/google wants to change mindnumbingly to mindbogglingly.
 
2013-02-06 02:26:49 PM  
is it me or does his voice sound like he is always sucking a lozenge?
 
2013-02-06 02:32:34 PM  

spman: Babbs: I dunno. Some of the best advice Dr Oz gave was to stop using toilet paper and start using wipes. My bum thanks him.

and so will your plumber when the pipes in your house get plugged up as a result of you flushing shiat down the toilet that doesn't belong there.


people flush those?  i just have a pile of them in what used to be my backyard.
 
2013-02-06 02:38:54 PM  
You never trust anything that's hawked during daytime tv. It's like all the shiat Oprah suggests or like when Dr.Phil pretends he's a doctor. This guy might actually be a surgeon but it doesn't mean any of the crap he says on tv is good.
 
2013-02-06 02:45:30 PM  
I can't stand to watch Dr. Oz.  Promotes more pills and liquids and God knows what else.  If you actually did all of the things he said, you would add so many years to your life, you would become freaking close to immortal.  And you'd be broke as well.
I want to see how long he lives and what he dies of.  If he doesn't hit a hundred and he dies of clogged arteries, it'll be hilarious.
 
2013-02-06 02:45:40 PM  
Oz is a narcissist and that makes him dangerous.
 
2013-02-06 03:17:33 PM  
Dude might have been a respectable doctor once, but now he's a total sellout.

Every time I see an ad for his show, 9/10 times it's about some stupid diet fad and has the announcer yelling "LOSE 10 POUNDS BY FOLLOWING DR. OZ'S SPECIAL PLAN!", "THIS IS THE SECRET THAT THE STARS USE TO LOSE WEIGHT!", or "HOW TO DROP 2 DRESS SIZES IN 2 WEEKS WITHOUT EXERCISING!"
 
2013-02-06 03:31:55 PM  

ThurmanMerman: He says that having 200 or more orgasms per year will extend your life.


I think I might be immortal.


self induced counts?
 
2013-02-06 03:37:26 PM  
From a society that takes medical advice from a Playboy Centerfold, would this be considered a step up?
 
2013-02-06 03:41:10 PM  

kvinesknows: ThurmanMerman: He says that having 200 or more orgasms per year will extend your life.


I think I might be immortal.

self induced counts?


If it doesn't, I've wasted my life.
 
2013-02-06 03:41:59 PM  

A Terrible Human: You never trust anything that's hawked during daytime tv. It's like all the shiat Oprah suggests or like when Dr.Phil pretends he's a doctor. This guy might actually be a surgeon but it doesn't mean any of the crap he says on tv is good.


Umm, Dr. Phil is a doctor he not an MD but he's still a Doctor. Hell even Shaq has a doctorate degree.
 
2013-02-06 03:47:37 PM  

chase_neal: And don't get me started on "Judge" Judy.


But what do you think about Judge Reinhold?
 
2013-02-06 04:03:11 PM  

A Terrible Human: You never trust anything that's hawked during daytime tv. It's like all the shiat Oprah suggests or like when Dr.Phil pretends he's a doctor. This guy might actually be a surgeon but it doesn't mean any of the crap he says on tv is good.


I'm pretty convinced at this point that anybody who watches daytime network TV on a regular basis is somebody I don't want to know.

The crap that plays between about 9:00 AM and 5:00 PM is usually some of the most inane, mindless, chicken-brained chatter that can be put in front of a camera and I cannot imagine how it would be possible to actually listen to it for any period of time without going insane if you had even a mildly operative brain in your head.

What I'm getting at here is that people who watch daytime TV must be complete and absolute morons and that's probably why they have the time in the middle of a workday to be watching it.
/ thank god for Netflix on sick days....
 
2013-02-06 04:03:33 PM  

kvinesknows: is it me or does his voice sound like he is always sucking a lozenge?


This.
Oz is one of those people to whom I cannot listen because of the voice. Remember the Seinfeld episode with Kramer reacting to Mary Hart? Others that drive me nuts are Joan Rivers, Joy Behar, Rachel Ray, and Walter in Fringe.

That, and he believes in Therapeutic Touch and a lot of other complete horseshiat.
 
2013-02-06 04:09:12 PM  
In my city, his show is ending just as I turn on the channel to watch the morning news. So i've never seen his show other than the last 1-2 minutes. During that segment, he always has a, shall we say, a "much above average" looking woman he is giving advice to. Is this pretty much how his show is, or does he actually try to help "normal looking" people?
 
2013-02-06 04:26:42 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor.  Can't believe you would call him a quack.

ftfa:

Oz graduated from Harvard University in 1982. Four years later, he received joint medical and M.B.A. degrees from the University of Pennsylvania. He then moved to Columbia and New York-Presbyterian Hospital, where, as a surgeon specializing in heart transplants, he has served as vice-chairman and professor in the department of surgery for more than twenty years. (He still performs operations there each Thursday.) Oz also directs Columbia's Cardiovascular Institute and Integrative Medicine Program, which he established in 1994, and has published scores of articles on technical issues, such as how to preserve muscle tissue during mitral-valve replacements. He holds a patent on a solution that can preserve organs and one on an aortic valve that can be implanted without highly invasive open-heart surgery


That just makes me think less of those institutions not less of much of a quack he is.
 
2013-02-06 04:30:07 PM  
That guys a nut!

omega3s.net
 
2013-02-06 04:36:13 PM  
Oh, God, between this clown and Dr Weil and the constant hawking of Oil! Of! Oregano! I think I might shoot my MIL. Step away from the TV, loony tunes.
 
2013-02-06 04:39:20 PM  
Second clue: it's not an emerald city at all, everyone's just wearing green eyeglasses.
 
2013-02-06 04:56:00 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Timmy the Tumor: ignatius_crumbcake: tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor.  Can't believe you would call him a quack.

ftfa:

Oz graduated from Harvard University in 1982. Four years later, he received joint medical and M.B.A. degrees from the University of Pennsylvania. He then moved to Columbia and New York-Presbyterian Hospital, where, as a surgeon specializing in heart transplants, he has served as vice-chairman and professor in the department of surgery for more than twenty years. (He still performs operations there each Thursday.) Oz also directs Columbia's Cardiovascular Institute and Integrative Medicine Program, which he established in 1994, and has published scores of articles on technical issues, such as how to preserve muscle tissue during mitral-valve replacements. He holds a patent on a solution that can preserve organs and one on an aortic valve that can be implanted without highly invasive open-heart surgery

Yes, but when he hawks shiat like this:

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/miracle-fat-burner-bottle

He is no more than a snake oil salesman out to bamboozle a gullible public.

it's not just that...

this week it's "white bean extract is the miracle weight loss product"  the week before it was "Raspberry ketones are the miracle weight loss product" the week before it was "Green Coffee Extract is the miracle weight loss product" and so on.  If you ate the recommended daily dose of all the sh*t he says are miracle cures, it would cost you $3,000 a day and you'd be swallowing capsules from dawn to dusk.

Stupid Dr. Oz... Everyone knows that masturbating 37.5 times a day is the REAL miracle weight loss cure.


That's the stupidest thing I've read on the internet in a while.

I mean, who can stop half way for that .5?

/and I know Oz is a quack from the one time I saw his show and he came out in scrubs, like he had just come from surgery
 
2013-02-06 05:19:57 PM  

BafflerMeal: Acquired situational narcissism


Absolutely! The same thing happened to Phil McGraw, and Dr. Drew Pinsky.
 
2013-02-06 05:30:25 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese * * Smartest * * Funniest * [ ] Smartest [ ] Funniest 2013-02-06 10:44:04 AM Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor. Can't believe you would call him a quack.
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Dr Phil is a quack. Dr Oz is a highly accomplished guy who spews forth fictional crap.

The amount of crap that he spews forth that is easily disprovable by anyone with even a 1/8 of a brain floors me.
 
2013-02-06 05:34:25 PM  

raptusregaliter: Oh, God, between this clown and Dr Weil and the constant hawking of Oil! Of! Oregano! I think I might shoot my MIL. Step away from the TV, loony tunes.


I was thinking of selling oil of spicy meatballs. It has oregano in it but it's much tastier.
 
2013-02-06 07:12:39 PM  

jake3988: tenpoundsofcheese * * Smartest * * Funniest * [ ] Smartest [ ] Funniest 2013-02-06 10:44:04 AM Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor. Can't believe you would call him a quack.
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Dr Phil is a quack. Dr Oz is a highly accomplished guy who spews forth fictional crap.

The amount of crap that he spews forth that is easily disprovable by anyone with even a 1/8 of a brain floors me.


Dr. Oz is the Fox News of medicine. He just says whatever will get him attention and, therefore, money. He may very well be a brilliant doctor and a general genius... but he plays an idiot on TV anyway because there's more profit in it.
 
2013-02-07 11:35:19 AM  

alltim: intotheabyss81: His daughter is kind of cute though.
[twimg0-a.akamaihd.net image 500x500]

I can't stop looking at this picture for some reason...


Yeah, Giolitti is awesome.  Makes me want to go back to Rome.

The dame is the bee's knees too.
 
2013-02-07 07:28:20 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, Oz is a highly accomplished doctor.  Can't believe you would call him a quack.


Nicely trolled, well done. You got many hits.

For those that don't know, Dr. Oz "crossed the Woobicon" long ago.

Science-Based Medicine has a good writeup on Oz.
 
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