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2013-02-06 01:14:49 PM  
Great article. It really covered all the bases, and should be required reading for all journalists who feel the need to mouth off about "PIT BULL ATTACKS".
 
2013-02-06 01:24:50 PM  

gilgigamesh: Great article. It really covered all the bases, and should be required reading for all journalists who feel the need to mouth off about "PIT BULL ATTACKS".


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2013-02-06 02:00:06 PM  

Old enough to know better: Good to see some sensible comments in this thread. Funny how if someone shoots up a neighborhood we blame the guy for being a screwed up nutcase. If he's trained his dog to be violent and aggressive and lets it run lose to attack someone, its the animal who's to blame.



Great fishing excursion for anti-gun crowd using subtlety, or greatest fishing excursion?
 
2013-02-06 02:01:54 PM  
Someone who owns a pit bull also tends to:

1. Buy twenty lottery tickets each week.
2. Have a tattoo on their hands or neck.
3. Pursue futile workman's comp claims.
4. Take photographs of babies holding beer cans.
5. Prominently display an electric guitar in the living room.
6. Have a shaven head.
7. Rent the television for £7 weekly.
8. Travel to a different county specifically to buy fireworks
9. Wear t-shirts featuring profanity.
10. Have at least two stepchildren, each with a different surname.
 
2013-02-06 02:04:38 PM  

Trillian Astra: DoctorOfLove: Actually, scariest looking dogs I see at the dog park regularly are two weimaraners (bogie and birdie, the owner plays a lot of golf). Huge, muscular, look like nazi officer dobermans.

I've got a fawn doberman that people constantly mistake for a weimaraner. We didn't crop his ears, though, because the pointy-ears thing is just cosmetic and we don't believe in doing that to a dog. His tail, however, was docked when we got him. And he loves kids and tiny dogs. We've had mothers bring their kids up to pet him and he just sits there and licks little hands and faces and when the mother finds out the cute doggy her little shiatlings have been hanging all over for the last five minutes is a Doberman instead of a Weimaraner she will freak out and makes her kids move away.


i1025.photobucket.com

he looks like a good boy

weknowmemes.com
 
2013-02-06 02:28:30 PM  

LadyHawke: Old enough to know better: Good to see some sensible comments in this thread. Funny how if someone shoots up a neighborhood we blame the guy for being a screwed up nutcase. If he's trained his dog to be violent and aggressive and lets it run lose to attack someone, its the animal who's to blame.

Also, I've watched a couple of those animal rescue shows on Animal Planet, and its funny how 9 times out of 10 the abandoned, half-starved dogs are pit bulls. Its like those little purse dogs from a few years back. Some people treat them as status symbols instead of pets.

I love Pitbulls & Parolees.  If the shelter were anywhere near DC we would (eventually) be looking to adopt from there.


DC's shelter is full of sweet pitties. Definitely worth looking at if you're looking to adopt.
 
2013-02-06 02:35:59 PM  

spentmiles: If anyone out there has a pit that was bought as a pet and then didn't meet your expectations, then - please please please - contact me so I can help you.  I've got a beautiful ranch with over 120 acres for my dogs to run and play.  There are streams for them to splash in, rabbits for them to chase, and a veterinarian that comes twice a month to give checkups.  You can rest guilt-free at night knowing that your dog is taken care of.

I've specialized in rehabilitating "broken" pits for over twenty years.  A lot of people bring me a problem dog, typically a neutered male, who has seemingly lost its will to live.  It lays around the house, eats too much, and shows no aggression whatsoever.  One guy brought me a dog that was too sociable to even take to the dog park.  It just ran around sniffing the other dogs and peeing on trees.  I know that's not why you bought a pit bull, and no one should have to live with such an animal.

Once your dog arrives at my farm, we'll get started as soon as it steps out of your car.  I'll come tearing up on an ATV swinging a length of chain to beat it with if it slows down.  I'll chase it until it either dies of exhaustion or manages to pull me off of the ATV.  In that case, one of my helpers will tranq it.  We'll all sleep well that night.

The next day, I'll start working on its diet.  We serve nothing but human blood here on the ranch.  I mix it with rocks and animal bones to give it some grit.  On Friday's, I throw a few poodles into the cement retreat area for the dogs to fight over.  Just wait until your dog has eaten the warm entrails of another animal.  He'll soon be right back to how God intended him - a tireless, domineering, blood soaked, murder machine that inspires such worldly achievements as war, late term abortions, and child sexual abuse.

Please - do not give up on your dog.  I can fix him!


*golfclap*
Well done.
This is why you are in "Insanity Green"
 
2013-02-06 02:44:43 PM  
"pit bull-type" dog
www.dogbreedinfo.com

"Military-type assault" rifle
lh5.googleusercontent.com

People react the same way to both items. These people know jack shiat about either.

Roomate had a pit. The most vicious thing it would do is give slobbery licks to the back of your knees. Lived in near harmony with a cat.
Though I won't say she wasn't dangerous (the pit, not the roomate). She had this farking whip-tail that would damn near break skin. I'd be laying on the couch, and she'd walk by all happy with that slave-whip tail and crack me in the farking face. Goddamn it hurt.
 
2013-02-06 02:46:00 PM  

towatchoverme: You have a better chance reasoning with a fundamentalist than a dog person.


"Man, people who disagree with me sure are closed-minded."

Be honest. It's not just fundies and dog people you notice this strange behavior in, is it?

/don't have a dog in this fight, as it were
//but I'm just sayin'
 
2013-02-06 02:50:39 PM  
My sister's pit has a tail like a bullwhip wags at the slightest provocation.  God help you if you are sitting on the floor when the dog walks by.  It'll slap the glasses right off your face and accross the room.  Very dangerous breed!
 
2013-02-06 02:52:37 PM  

ChaoticLimbs: Then she bit a Mormon kid who put his hand on the door to stop my mom from closing it in his face. Max didn't like my mom's reaction to that one bit, and she silently moved forward and bit him right on the leg.


Your mom bit the dog on the leg for biting the mormon kid?
Stange, but I guess that could be an effective training technique.
 
2013-02-06 02:55:17 PM  
pkellmey:
Something like this (PDF) may be more beneficial to the conversation.

Thank you for that. I was going to post something about how my chow is nothing but a cuddly fur ball, but I see he is in the "suspect breed" category.
GF keeps saying "Don't put your face close to him", (so of course I do it every day) but hers is just common sense advise for any unfamiliar dog.
My sister had her face severely bitten by a Spitz for that very reason.
 
2013-02-06 02:58:20 PM  

letrole: Someone who owns a pit bull also tends to:

1. Buy twenty lottery tickets each week.
2. Have a tattoo on their hands or neck.
3. Pursue futile workman's comp claims.
4. Take photographs of babies holding beer cans.
5. Prominently display an electric guitar in the living room.
6. Have a shaven head.
7. Rent the television for £7 weekly.
8. Travel to a different county specifically to buy fireworks
9. Wear t-shirts featuring profanity.
10. Have at least two stepchildren, each with a different surname.


Aww someone wants some attention.

Who's a good little troll? Who's a good troll? You are! Yes you are!

/you've been validated for the day, you can stop now
//but you won't
 
2013-02-06 02:59:46 PM  
I wonder if the people saying, "Blame the owner, not the dog" would say the same about guns.
 
2013-02-06 03:11:08 PM  

petec: neongoats: KatjaMouse: dk47: Jack Russell Terrier?

/terriers are the worst

Take that back. Terriers are awesome. Intense, sure, but still awesome.

/grew up with Foxies and currently own a Mini-Schnauzer mix
//Foxies are typically the first dog in obedience training to learn a trick but the last to perform it for a second time

I have a foodle(toy fox terrier/poodle), and he is intense and hilarious. He embodies speed and bouncy energy, like tigger on crack rock. He will joyfully charge to dog battle with my sisters huge yellow lab, despite weighing maybe 15lbs soaking wet. He is very cognizant of what is "his" and will hoard his toys and charge my cat if he hunkers down on one. Which happens a lot, because my cat is a huge cranky orange Manx-coon whose primary form of entertainment is teasing the dog. Oh and the most hilarious thing is how he will spin in place when super excited. Just can't contain himself and must spin around in circles.

When I mentally picture him it is always a cartoon picture of a dog zooming, ears blown back by the wind of his own speed.

Still can't get him to fetch though. He will chase and get the toy, and take it to his toy hoarding spot.

try using two balls..entice him back with the second..




Shoot, I've tried it with whole buckets full of balls and toys. He will go get anything thrown for him, stash it in his spot(varies depending on locale) then come to me wanting me to throw a new one. The trick totally works for my sisters lab, but not my foodle. He also isn't tricked by fake throws, but yet always barks for the doorbell on Twin Peaks.
 
2013-02-06 03:13:42 PM  

havocmike: Bullshiat.

Please alert me the next time a Dalmation or Golden Retriever kills a 4 year old child, and the owner blames the kid.

fark you, dangerous dog owners. You're all in denial and it's putting your community at risk.


A Dalmatian owned by relatives tried to take my wife's face off one time (97 stitches). It had never bitten anyone before and my wife is great around dogs, other than this one. The dog's owners were responsible enough to put it down afterward.

I have read that Dalmatians tend to go deaf later in their lives, which can lead to "fear biting", as opposed to regular? biting.
 
2013-02-06 03:18:42 PM  

js34603: letrole: Someone who owns a pit bull also tends to:

8. Travel to a different  county  state specifically to buy fireworks
Aww someone wants some attention.

Who's a good little troll? Who's a good troll? You are! Yes you are!

/you've been validated for the day, you can stop now
//but you won't


The best fireworks are in other states. Looking at you SC, with your lax fireworks laws.

/When I lived in FL I used to go to AL to get my boom-booms. Lived across the street from a cop. I'd offer to bring him some (for free) and I never had a problem with the cops showing up to my awesome amature  fireworks displays.
//Neighbors all down the street on the 4th playing with their FL legal sparkles and snakes. Then I start letting the mortors fly. *Booom* *screeeeeeeeeeeech* *KA-FARKING-BOOM* *crackle*. Everyone would stop doing what they were doing and crowds would gather.
///I'd spend $200 on fireworks, because fark it, it's just money, and I'm a big kid.
 
2013-02-06 03:37:29 PM  
lh6.googleusercontent.com

My pit is very cool around most people and all dogs.  I have found that the people he doesn't like are crooked.
 
2013-02-06 03:40:40 PM  

priapic_abandon: A Dalmatian owned by relatives tried to take my wife's face off one time (97 stitches). It had never bitten anyone before and my wife is great around dogs, other than this one. The dog's owners were responsible enough to put it down afterward.


Yikes!

I guess, sometimes, they just go bad....
 
2013-02-06 03:45:35 PM  

FriarED1: I wonder if the people saying, "Blame the owner, not the dog" would say the same about guns.


Yes, we would.
 
2013-02-06 03:50:16 PM  

MaddMango: [lh6.googleusercontent.com image 650x437]

My pit is very cool around most people and all dogs.  I have found that the people he doesn't like are crooked.


Never trust a man who doesn't like dogs.
Never trust a man who dogs don't like.
 
2013-02-06 04:02:11 PM  
'the media turned them into monsters'

Asshole owners turned them into monsters.
 
2013-02-06 04:04:40 PM  

jedikinkoid: You know what? You're right, dog owners shouldn't be the only ones held strictly liable when their pet attacks someone without provocation.

EVERYONE should.


I agree that damage by animals should be treated the same whether dog or other animal, but I don't think strict liability is good for anything.  plaintiffs should be able to prove a cause of action.  there still is res ipsa loquitor (which means, the thing speaks for itself, you may not know why or how something happened, but you know negligence must have been involved), but that still requires some degree of negligence.

i don't believe in suing the guy who acts reasonably.  there has to be negligence.  keep in mind, with animal attacks, that is easy to find against the owner.  but, you should at least be able to find it.  like any other lawsuit on earth (other than blasting with dynamite).

/ i mention blasting, because traditionally, liabilty without fault should be reserved for actions that are so inherently dangerous that even the responsible actor should be liable.  dog ownership does not raise to the level of inherent danger as blowing stuff up with dynamite.
 
2013-02-06 04:17:17 PM  

FriarED1: I wonder if the people saying, "Blame the owner, not the dog" would say the same about guns.


I'd say that some people probably shouldn't have either.
 
2013-02-06 04:31:43 PM  

spentmiles: If anyone out there has a pit that was bought as a pet and then didn't meet your expectations, then - please please please - contact me so I can help you.  I've got a beautiful ranch with over 120 acres for my dogs to run and play.  There are streams for them to splash in, rabbits for them to chase, and a veterinarian that comes twice a month to give checkups.  You can rest guilt-free at night knowing that your dog is taken care of.

I've specialized in rehabilitating "broken" pits for over twenty years.  A lot of people bring me a problem dog, typically a neutered male, who has seemingly lost its will to live.  It lays around the house, eats too much, and shows no aggression whatsoever.  One guy brought me a dog that was too sociable to even take to the dog park.  It just ran around sniffing the other dogs and peeing on trees.  I know that's not why you bought a pit bull, and no one should have to live with such an animal.

Once your dog arrives at my farm, we'll get started as soon as it steps out of your car.  I'll come tearing up on an ATV swinging a length of chain to beat it with if it slows down.  I'll chase it until it either dies of exhaustion or manages to pull me off of the ATV.  In that case, one of my helpers will tranq it.  We'll all sleep well that night.

The next day, I'll start working on its diet.  We serve nothing but human blood here on the ranch.  I mix it with rocks and animal bones to give it some grit.  On Friday's, I throw a few poodles into the cement retreat area for the dogs to fight over.  Just wait until your dog has eaten the warm entrails of another animal.  He'll soon be right back to how God intended him - a tireless, domineering, blood soaked, murder machine that inspires such worldly achievements as war, late term abortions, and child sexual abuse.

Please - do not give up on your dog.  I can fix him!


George Liquor
 
2013-02-06 04:41:39 PM  

Clearance for Clarence: LadyHawke: Old enough to know better: Good to see some sensible comments in this thread. Funny how if someone shoots up a neighborhood we blame the guy for being a screwed up nutcase. If he's trained his dog to be violent and aggressive and lets it run lose to attack someone, its the animal who's to blame.

Also, I've watched a couple of those animal rescue shows on Animal Planet, and its funny how 9 times out of 10 the abandoned, half-starved dogs are pit bulls. Its like those little purse dogs from a few years back. Some people treat them as status symbols instead of pets.

I love Pitbulls & Parolees.  If the shelter were anywhere near DC we would (eventually) be looking to adopt from there.

DC's shelter is full of sweet pitties. Definitely worth looking at if you're looking to adopt.


We were just at the Montgomery Country shelter and I would say 80% of the dogs there were pits or pit mixes. Most of them seemed like sweet puppies who were very happy to see us.
 
2013-02-06 04:48:09 PM  

priapic_abandon: havocmike: Bullshiat.

Please alert me the next time a Dalmation or Golden Retriever kills a 4 year old child, and the owner blames the kid.

fark you, dangerous dog owners. You're all in denial and it's putting your community at risk.

A Dalmatian owned by relatives tried to take my wife's face off one time (97 stitches). It had never bitten anyone before and my wife is great around dogs, other than this one. The dog's owners were responsible enough to put it down afterward.

I have read that Dalmatians tend to go deaf later in their lives, which can lead to "fear biting", as opposed to regular? biting.


Dalmatians have a high incidence of deafness at birth, but they tend to be high strung in general. Both of ours were/are very aggressive to other dogs and our current one is not okay with kids or other small/fast things. She gets nervous, and especially gets jealous of the attention that kids get at her expense. She tolerates our daughter, but can't really be said to like her much.
 
2013-02-06 05:12:35 PM  
Nothing against pitties, but gimme a nice mutt instead.
Hybrid vigor ftw.
 
2013-02-06 06:00:49 PM  

MayoSlather: Cythraul: MayoSlather: Their aggression may depend on their owner but the difference is the strength of the animal. When a smaller breeds gets agitated and bites it's usually no big deal, but when a pitbull does it can cause major damage. That's why they don't belong in urban areas. There is just no need to have a dog that can rip your throat out when there are so many others that lack that ability.

Are you for applying the same restrictions to all large breed dogs that 'Pit Bulls' are subjected to, then?  This would probably include very popular 'good' breeds like the golden retriever, by the way.

Well they aren't built the same, but yeah in general a large breed that is capable of doing major damage shouldn't be in an urban environment. I'm sure there are cases of retrievers biting people, but this doesn't seem to be an issue, or maybe it's just that retriever biased media not reporting when they attack and kill kids.


Of course they're not built the same. The Golden Retriever is a large breed. The APBT is a medium size breed. That is, if you know anything at all about breed standards. Based on your comment, it doesn't sound like you do.

Here's a short list of breeds (all of which are classified as medium-size, BTW) that should be banned from urban areas, based on your logic:

American Water Spaniel
Basenji
Basset Hound
Bearded Collie
Bedlington Terrier
Belgian Malinois
Belgian Sheepdog
Belgian Tervuren
Border Collie
Boston Terrier
Brittany
Bulldog
Bull Terrier
Clumber Spaniel
Dalmation
English Springer Spaniel
Field Spaniel
French Bulldog
Irish Terrier
Keeshond
Kerry Blue Terrier
Manchester Terrier
Norwegian Elkhound
Parson Russell Terrier
Pharaoh Hound
Welsh Corgi
Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen
Plott Hound
Poodle
Portuguese Water Dog
Puli
Samoyed
Siberian Husky
Smooth Fox Terrier
Soft-Coated Wheaten Terrier
Staffordshire Bull Terrier
Standard Schnauzer
Sussex Spaniel
Tibetan Terrier
Welsh Springer Spaniel
Welsh Terrier
Whippet

Assuming you live in an urban area, do you see the breed you own in that list?

/owner of 1 APBT, 1 French Bulldog & 1 Persian cat
//all are wonderful family members & fantastic companions
 
2013-02-06 06:36:47 PM  
I came into this thread thinking I was going to have to knock down the ignorant comments and myths and instead I found a bunch of fellow pittie lovers and the few ignorant comments already knocked down.

I volunteer for a rescue group that saved 7000+ animals last year. We love the pitties. Most of the adoption counselors have them and probably half the volunteers do also.

My pit mix is so friendly, we joke that we're going to get her a job as a greeter in a store. She does it on a volunteer basis wherever we take her.
 
2013-02-06 07:18:44 PM  
My problem with pit bulls is irresponsible douchebags. People often get them because they want a big scary looking dog due to the fact that they think it makes them look like a bad-ass. That's clue #1 that they moron. Just like morons shouldn't screw around with guns; morons should stay away from dogs that can really hurt someone. Stick to ankle-biters, dickwads. Leave the grown-up doggies to the people that don't have inferiority-complexes and power-trips.
 
2013-02-06 07:21:07 PM  
Anyone else find this new comments thingy sometimes leaves out words. Sometimes I look back at a sentence and it has jost stopped recording my keystrokes for a few seconds? WTF?
 
2013-02-06 07:21:59 PM  
Still lets me make typos, though, so that's good.
 
2013-02-06 08:10:55 PM  
My unstoppable murder machines.

i1034.photobucket.com


and in memoriam to the first unstoppable murder machine I ever owned.
i1034.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-06 08:48:40 PM  
So it's kinda like "Blame the victim?"
 
2013-02-06 10:37:12 PM  

i3.photobucket.com

i3.photobucket.com


meehaw: That story made me smile and tear up, just a little.


that's the old boy a few years back.  love that little bastard.
 
2013-02-06 10:52:35 PM  

rickythepenguin: meehaw: That story made me smile and tear up, just a little.

that's the old boy a few years back.  love that little bastard.


Man, I can just see him attacking a sprinkler. My girl (an Aussie) does it, too. Strangely, she hates walking on wet ground when it rains, but will absolutely destroy a sprinkler until she's sopping wet and completely worn out. They're such cute little enigmas.

Thanks for the photos. The fact that you followed through with that after this long also makes me tear up.
 
2013-02-06 11:02:23 PM  

meehaw: Thanks for the photos. The fact that you followed through with that after this long also makes me tear up.


ha.  yeah man, just got home, remembered.

the old boy is on the bed now. gonna have to kick him off in a little bit.


and they say dogs can't smile.  the old boy gives me that look when he knows he stole a sandwich or maybe some ice cream.
 
2013-02-06 11:05:10 PM  

LadyHawke: Good article.  The fiance and I plan to eventually adopt a pit, though it won't be our first dog (while he's owned dogs growing up, I have not, so I want to start with an "easier" dog, such as a greyhound).  A pit/pit-mix rescue will most likely be our second dog.


A Greyhound isn't an easier dog.   You really need to talk to someone who really understands dog personalities and traits.   You need a custom ordered dog type that matches yours....don't go Greyhound unless you have lots of time and a place to let them run daily.
 
2013-02-07 05:18:55 AM  
walkerhound:
mr_a: Over the years I have learned that "pitbulls" were bred to kill slaves

"Mistaken for the Fila Brasiliero.  The only run-ins I've had with them have been for elective surgery, and both were extremely aggressive in the hospital, away from their owners.  I believe this was the breed involved in killing a woman in San Francisco a number of years back."

Haven't read the rest off the thread, so don't know if this has been mentioned.

Re the dog attack, I believe you are thinking of a presa canario, which is similar, but spanish, not brazilian.
 
2013-02-07 05:29:25 AM  
LadyHawke:
"plan to get experience with another dog breed BEFORE getting a pit.

/will be in the 30%!!!
...
Our first dog will likely be a greyhound rescue :)"

Greyhounds are generally very gentle, but in my experience don't live very long, so that's something to seriously consider.

Their temperament is very unlike pits.

If you are looking to be the 30%, I applaud you, but don't think one will be like the other. Pits can be nippy and aggressive, especially as puppies or if they've not been trained well, as is the case with many rescues.

I've had a number of dogs over the years, but my pit is a challenge, primarily because she is just incredibly strong and hard-headed.

You absolutely need to establish your dominance with your pit bull early. You can't allow them to be in control the way you can with many other breeds. They're just too dangerous.

An older pit generally will be calmer, and may easily live as long as a greyhound rescue that is much younger when you adopt it.

Just don't underestimate the pit's strength or assume it'll be like other breeds.
 
2013-02-07 05:40:23 AM  
Cythraul:
MNguy: Carn:   There's a reason why they use them in races.

Just like there's a reason pits are used for fighting.

"Funny.

And if you take a Greyhound from birth, and actually avoid teaching it anything to do with racing, I doubt it would have a clue as an adult dog what to do when the starting signal is given for the race to begin.  Probably just stand there looking confused.

Maybe that means that a breed's physical characteristics mean nothing if you don't train or exploit them to do certain tasks that take advantage of those physical characteristics"

Oh, you sweet, naïve thing.
 
2013-02-07 06:20:57 AM  
Didn't see anyone else mention it, but this exact same article was greenlighted a few days back, but posted on alternet.
 
2013-02-07 08:40:34 AM  

o'really: LadyHawke:
"plan to get experience with another dog breed BEFORE getting a pit.

/will be in the 30%!!!
...
Our first dog will likely be a greyhound rescue :)"

Greyhounds are generally very gentle, but in my experience don't live very long, so that's something to seriously consider.

Their temperament is very unlike pits.

If you are looking to be the 30%, I applaud you, but don't think one will be like the other. Pits can be nippy and aggressive, especially as puppies or if they've not been trained well, as is the case with many rescues.

I've had a number of dogs over the years, but my pit is a challenge, primarily because she is just incredibly strong and hard-headed.

You absolutely need to establish your dominance with your pit bull early. You can't allow them to be in control the way you can with many other breeds. They're just too dangerous.

An older pit generally will be calmer, and may easily live as long as a greyhound rescue that is much younger when you adopt it.

Just don't underestimate the pit's strength or assume it'll be like other breeds.


Ladyhawke
Not sure where the short-lived Greyhound comments come from. Our first Grey lived to be 13, and our current one is 11 and still going strong.

While "most" Greyhounds seem docile and unassuming, I wouldn't choose one just because you think they are going to be easier to handle. Our "pack" consists of 1 greyhound and 2 Rottweilers, all female. The pack leader is the Greyhound, who is quite capable of enforcing her rules on the Rotties. And in general, when I have to break up "rough play", it is usually the Greyhound causing the problems.

And while they are usually very gentle around humans, they can be aggressive. Remember, racing dogs have spent the first few years of their lives with 50 other dogs, and are used to defending their turf, and food, from the others. Similarly, they almost all have high prey drives, which means they will run and chase after just about anything that weighs 10 lbs or less, including cats and small dogs. Neither of our dogs have ever hurt another pet, like our cats, but they will chase after them, at least once. Our cats are more than capable of communicating their dislike.

Greyhounds look like wimps, but are actually quite strong. Our last grey thought nothing of tackling and body-slamming a Rottweiler. They may look  like wimps, but don't forget you are dealing with 60-90 lbs of pure muscle. Like any dog, they can quickly develop their share of bad habits if you are not on top of them.

Not trying to discourage you. A Greyhound is a great first dog, and while I love Rotts and Pits, I wouldn't suggest them as a first pet-not so much because of the dog, but rather the actions of other people. Just don't underestimate the capabilities of a Greyhound. And while rescue racers show up reasonably well trained, don't confuse that training for guaranteed good behavior. Like any other dog, you need to establish yourself as the "boss" or else the dog will take over.
 
2013-02-07 09:32:12 AM  
Google
Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks
 
2013-02-07 11:14:19 AM  
Google
CDC identification of dog breeds
 
2013-02-07 02:31:17 PM  
Google
how to make a dog come
 
2013-02-07 02:48:55 PM  
mr_a, my apologies. I guess I was misinformed about the greyhound lifespan.
 
2013-02-07 03:40:35 PM  

spentmiles: Google
how to make a dog come


Wonder how many people try this without turning on safe search...
 
2013-02-07 03:53:54 PM  

o'really: mr_a, my apologies. I guess I was misinformed about the greyhound lifespan.


No problem. In fact I am not even sure what their "average" lifespan is. In our case, we have adopted them at a rather young age, both were 3. That means they didn't race all that much, usually the result of some type of injury. Both of ours had back problems all through their life.

My unscientific survey shows that if you adopt them later in life, 5 or so, they tend to be less long-lived- no doubt the result of a lifetime of relatively stressful racing lifestyle.

In general, though, bigger dogs tend to live shorter lives. No doubt it is influenced by genetics, lifestyle, healthcare, and just plain old luck....much like humans.
 
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