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2013-02-05 09:17:24 PM

Big Ramifications: Why do some BIG EARTHQUAKES cause salamis and some don't?

There's been dozens of earthquake-induced salami warnings since the big one in Japan. Why do most turn out to be false alarms? Of the top of my head:

** Exponential scale and all that. A 7.0 earthquake is way way smaller than an 8.0 earthquake.
** The shape and gradient of the sea bed near the earthquake.
** Secret military technology. Nothing to do with earthquakes.

Why only the Christmas day salami of 2004 and the recent one in Japan.


Seems backwards to me as well. Cured meat is always better as an appetizer rather than desert.
 
2013-02-05 09:17:43 PM

Mock26: On the plus side, maybe Sarah will be washed away!


Sadly,

The Downfall: Breaking News  @BreakingNews
Pacific Tsunami Warning Center: Sea level readings show tsunami generated after earthquake off Solomon Islands -http://1.usa.gov/XLTqdB

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no,
THIS BULLETIN APPLIES TO AREAS WITHIN AND BORDERING THE PACIFICOCEAN AND ADJACENT SEAS...EXCEPT ALASKA...BRITISH COLUMBIA...WASHINGTON...OREGON AND CALIFORNIA.
 
2013-02-05 09:18:04 PM
Like anyone in the U.S. has any idea where the Solomon Islands are.
 
2013-02-05 09:18:47 PM
Another 6.6 !
 
2013-02-05 09:20:22 PM

TeamEd: Big Ramifications: Why do some BIG EARTHQUAKES cause salamis and some don't?

There's been dozens of earthquake-induced salami warnings since the big one in Japan. Why do most turn out to be false alarms? Off the top of my head:

** Exponential scale and all that. A 7.0 earthquake is way way smaller than an 8.0 earthquake.
** The shape and gradient of the sea bed near the earthquake.
** Secret military technology. Nothing to do with earthquakes.

Why only the Christmas day salami of 2004 and the recent one in Japan?

For one, because it's a log scale. Both the Japanese and the Boxing Day quakes were pushing 9.0.

~
I covered that one in my first point, sizzlechest.

Apologies for the spelling and grammer. I always run a spell check in word and re-read. Somehow I hit Add Comment when I didn't want to.
 
2013-02-05 09:20:47 PM

Zeno-25: [assets.nydailynews.com image 485x377]

Take care, everyone.


Thanks. You taught me so much! I could never have found that same slide even if I spent 2 minutes looking for it.
 
2013-02-05 09:20:55 PM
aww shiat, and I was having a nice afternoon. Guess I better get back to the boat in case I have to head for deep water.
 
2013-02-05 09:20:59 PM

LessO2: Like anyone in the U.S. has any idea where the Solomon Islands are.


True.  I consider myself pretty decent of knowing where stuff is on the globe, but I had to look that one up.  Figured Pacific so I was at least close.
 
2013-02-05 09:21:14 PM
My farking honeymoon is in farking Fiji this April. That tsunami better find somewhere else to farking go.
 
2013-02-05 09:21:46 PM

TommyymmoT: I'm going to claim stupidity, and ignorance in advance, but I have a question.

Is it at all possible that with the Arctic icecaps melting, the weight redistribution is having an affect on the plates?
I think that that even a 1/2" rise in the oceans, would mean hundreds of trillions of pounds of water has moved to a different location.


Yes it will. Not clear now much in reality, though.
 
2013-02-05 09:22:37 PM
From the USGS image the center is in the knee of a fault that's mostly subduction headed west bound. But since it is a knee it's all compressed towards the southwest, and that's the side I'd expect the up heave. Then the knee points at the Great Barrier Reef, which might be able to break up any tsunami headed that way.

I doubt Sandy Island is going to fare well.
 
2013-02-05 09:22:39 PM

LessO2: Like anyone in the U.S. has any idea where the Solomon Islands are.


1. Download Google Earth
2. Open thread link
3. Open KMZ file referenced in thread link.

Problem solved.
 
2013-02-05 09:22:52 PM

TommyymmoT: I'm going to claim stupidity, and ignorance in advance, but I have a question.

Is it at all possible that with the Arctic icecaps melting, the weight redistribution is having an affect on the plates?
I think that that even a 1/2" rise in the oceans, would mean hundreds of trillions of pounds of water has moved to a different location.


It has already begun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound
 
2013-02-05 09:22:52 PM

LessO2: Like anyone in the U.S. has any idea where the Solomon Islands are.


Northeast corner of the Coral Sea\Southwest edge of the South Pacific. What do I win?
 
2013-02-05 09:22:54 PM

Big Ramifications: Why do some BIG EARTHQUAKES cause salamis and some don't?

There's been dozens of earthquake-induced salami warnings since the big one in Japan. Why do most turn out to be false alarms? Of the top of my head:

** Exponential scale and all that. A 7.0 earthquake is way way smaller than an 8.0 earthquake.
** The shape and gradient of the sea bed near the earthquake.
** Secret military technology. Nothing to do with earthquakes.

Why only the Christmas day salami of 2004 and the recent one in Japan.


It depends on a lot of factors on whether a particular quake will generate a Tsunami.

Size of quake (larger the quake, larger potential for tsunamis)
Depth from surface (the close it is to the surface, the stronger the movement as the waves don't have to travel as far)
Type of fault (is it moving up and down like that reverse fault image above will generate more tsunamis as it diplaces water in the movement compared to a side by side fault motion)
Secondary effects (this often is a landslide triggered by the earthquake that displaces a large quantity of water causing the tsunamis)
 
2013-02-05 09:22:58 PM

LessO2: Like anyone in the U.S. has any idea where the Solomon Islands are.


Yeah......nobody ever watched the history channel, the military channel, A@E, The Pacific, or had family members in the marines.
 
2013-02-05 09:24:40 PM
wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net
ATTENTION ISLANDS IN THE OCEAN, ATTENTION ISLANDS
 
2013-02-05 09:25:01 PM

davidphogan: At last most of the places listed in the warning don't have that much population compared to some areas that are tsunami prone.


On the other hand, the ones that are there have absolutely nowhere to run and no higher ground to get to. It is pure, unmitigated brace-for-impact.

This is not going to be a 'body count' thing. The worry here is more analogous to a tornado hitting some barely-incorporated town and wiping the entire town off the map.
 
2013-02-05 09:26:10 PM

b0rg9: LessO2: Like anyone in the U.S. has any idea where the Solomon Islands are.

True.  I consider myself pretty decent of knowing where stuff is on the globe, but I had to look that one up.  Figured Pacific so I was at least close.


Americans should know, Battle of Guadalcanal and all.
 
2013-02-05 09:26:40 PM

SN1987a goes boom: Big Ramifications: Why do some BIG EARTHQUAKES cause salamis and some don't?

There's been dozens of earthquake-induced salami warnings since the big one in Japan. Why do most turn out to be false alarms? Of the top of my head:

** Exponential scale and all that. A 7.0 earthquake is way way smaller than an 8.0 earthquake.
** The shape and gradient of the sea bed near the earthquake.
** Secret military technology. Nothing to do with earthquakes.

Why only the Christmas day salami of 2004 and the recent one in Japan.

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Oh you.


Not funny to be making jokes. I meant a big salami.

i49.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-05 09:26:44 PM

LessO2: Like anyone in the U.S. has any idea where the Solomon Islands are.


We do know where they are. We're not all backwards provincial idiots.
 
2013-02-05 09:26:54 PM

LessO2: Like anyone in the U.S. has any idea where the Solomon Islands are.


Near Gomorrah?
 
2013-02-05 09:27:30 PM

wildcardjack: From the USGS image the center is in the knee of a fault that's mostly subduction headed west bound. But since it is a knee it's all compressed towards the southwest, and that's the side I'd expect the up heave. Then the knee points at the Great Barrier Reef, which might be able to break up any tsunami headed that way.

I doubt Sandy Island is going to fare well.


Oh yeah, I was just looking at that. Pressure hitting that spot from two angles, that's a lot of compression there. Any tsunami on the GBR would wreak havoc on the coral reefs. That sucks, but better than it hitting Queensland full force. New Zealand and of course the smaller island chains are more exposed though.
 
2013-02-05 09:28:17 PM

crispyone: Bathia_Mapes: Link with more info here

Well if Faux news is reporting it at least we know it's not true. Move along citizens.


Other sites are posting it too. It was just the first result available at the time. Currently there are reports from Huffington Post, BBC, CNN, Telegraph and numerous other sites, all in addition to the link from USGS.
 
2013-02-05 09:28:19 PM

LessO2: Like anyone in the U.S. has any idea where the Solomon Islands are.


... the Solomon Islands are located in the lower right hand corner of my phone.
 
2013-02-05 09:28:35 PM

kimwim: LessO2: Like anyone in the U.S. has any idea where the Solomon Islands are.

We do know where they are. We're not all backwards provincial idiots.


Yeeesh. Any idiot knows they're off the coast of Solomon.
 
2013-02-05 09:29:18 PM
(looks at map)

Oh, shiat, there is just nothing between the epicenter and Tuvalu. That's supposed to be one of the first countries beneath the waves alongside the Maldives and Kiribati. Kiribati has Tuvalu, Tokelau and Baker Island to run blocking, as well as some distance, but they won't provide much help.
 
2013-02-05 09:29:33 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Mock26: On the plus side, maybe Sarah will be washed away!

Sadly,

The Downfall: Breaking News  @BreakingNews
Pacific Tsunami Warning Center: Sea level readings show tsunami generated after earthquake off Solomon Islands -http://1.usa.gov/XLTqdB

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no,
THIS BULLETIN APPLIES TO AREAS WITHIN AND BORDERING THE PACIFICOCEAN AND ADJACENT SEAS...EXCEPT ALASKA...BRITISH COLUMBIA...WASHINGTON...OREGON AND CALIFORNIA.


That's because warnings for that area are issued by the West Coast and Alaska Tsunami warning center versus the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center.
 
2013-02-05 09:30:04 PM

Red Shirt Blues: LessO2: Like anyone in the U.S. has any idea where the Solomon Islands are.

Yeah......nobody ever watched the history channel, the military channel, A@E, The Pacific, or had family members in the marines.


Or read Neptune's Inferno.
 
2013-02-05 09:30:25 PM
good luck out there and I hope you didn't pickup any tiki idols on any beaches lately.

go put them back!
 
2013-02-05 09:30:40 PM
I'm upset that I can't find a potential tsunami map and ETAs.
 
2013-02-05 09:31:17 PM

LessO2: Like anyone in the U.S. has any idea where the Solomon Islands are.


Duh... they're in the ocean.
 
2013-02-05 09:31:17 PM

Speaker2Animals: Red Shirt Blues: LessO2: Like anyone in the U.S. has any idea where the Solomon Islands are.

Yeah......nobody ever watched the history channel, the military channel, A@E, The Pacific, or had family members in the marines.

Or read Neptune's Inferno.


Dude...just read that on my nook two months ago.
 
2013-02-05 09:31:21 PM
Officials warn the people of Guam not to run to one side of the island.
 
2013-02-05 09:31:32 PM

Big Ramifications: SN1987a goes boom: Big Ramifications: Why do some BIG EARTHQUAKES cause salamis and some don't?

There's been dozens of earthquake-induced salami warnings since the big one in Japan. Why do most turn out to be false alarms? Of the top of my head:

** Exponential scale and all that. A 7.0 earthquake is way way smaller than an 8.0 earthquake.
** The shape and gradient of the sea bed near the earthquake.
** Secret military technology. Nothing to do with earthquakes.

Why only the Christmas day salami of 2004 and the recent one in Japan.

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 224x225]

Oh you.

Not funny to be making jokes. I meant a big salami.

[i49.tinypic.com image 320x214]


For some reason, that picture and your post are now reminding me of the line from Ghostbusters about the Twinkie.
 
2013-02-05 09:31:44 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: TommyymmoT: I'm going to claim stupidity, and ignorance in advance, but I have a question.

Is it at all possible that with the Arctic icecaps melting, the weight redistribution is having an affect on the plates?
I think that that even a 1/2" rise in the oceans, would mean hundreds of trillions of pounds of water has moved to a different location.

It has already begun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound


Before the pedants show up, I think this is obviously what you meant even though you accidentally an "Arctic icecaps"
 
2013-02-05 09:32:02 PM
... and let's add another 5.2 into the mix.
 
2013-02-05 09:32:05 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: LessO2: Like anyone in the U.S. has any idea where the Solomon Islands are.

Duh... they're in the ocean.


Oh... a wise guy
 
2013-02-05 09:32:29 PM

Gosling: (looks at map)

Oh, shiat, there is just nothing between the epicenter and Tuvalu. That's supposed to be one of the first countries beneath the waves alongside the Maldives and Kiribati. Kiribati has Tuvalu, Tokelau and Baker Island to run blocking, as well as some distance, but they won't provide much help.


Kirabati is largely composed of atolls and they're narrow and steep and don't get affected much by tsunamis. Sort of like a wave doesn't do much to a piling.
 
2013-02-05 09:33:24 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: EXCEPT ALASKA...BRITISH COLUMBIA...WASHINGTON...OREGON AND CALIFORNIA.



What about Europa?
 
2013-02-05 09:33:26 PM

Witchydiva: I'm upset that I can't find a potential tsunami map and ETAs.


The USGS site redesign is confusing.
 
2013-02-05 09:33:27 PM

Witchydiva: I'm upset that I can't find a potential tsunami map and ETAs.


http://ptwc.weather.gov/ptwc/text.php?id=pacific.TSUPAC.2013.02.06.0 21 2

ETA's.
 
2013-02-05 09:33:38 PM

Big Ramifications: Why only the Christmas day salami of 2004 and the recent one in Japan.


I was on Phuket for the Boxing Day (not Xmas) Tsunami, and now I feel ripped off that I didn't get any free salami out of it.

/Most depressing, scary, sad, and happy days of my life, all jumbled up over 3 or 4 days.
 
2013-02-05 09:33:56 PM
Any Solomon Farkers got updates?
 
2013-02-05 09:34:00 PM
Must be a result of those 15 Earth-Shaking Battle Cries from Fark's "Featured Partner" a few threads back.

/does anyone click those?
 
2013-02-05 09:34:04 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Duh... they're in the ocean.


No they are not... for now... although they might be soon for a little while.
 
2013-02-05 09:34:31 PM
...and now I'm upset that I didn't follow the link in the link, to find the text list of ETAs for the tsunami before posting before.
 
2013-02-05 09:34:50 PM

kimwim: LessO2: Like anyone in the U.S. has any idea where the Solomon Islands are.

We do know where they are. We're not all backwards provincial idiots.


Speak for yourself!
 
2013-02-05 09:35:05 PM

Witchydiva: I'm upset that I can't find a potential tsunami map and ETAs.


tabular form, not a map but it's got arrival times and loocations:  http://ptwc.weather.gov/ptwc/text.php?id=pacific.TSUPAC.2013.02.06.02 1 2
 
2013-02-05 09:36:02 PM

Jon H: better not interrupt my morning stroll on the beach!


Jon H, Jon H, Jon H
 
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