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2013-02-06 01:36:50 AM  
Holy shiat that pic. i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-06 01:37:27 AM  
Feminists versus the LGBTUNWTFBBQMYSQL crowd?

*grabs popcorn*
 
2013-02-06 01:40:15 AM  

super_grass: Feminists versus the LGBTUNWTFBBQMYSQL crowd?

*grabs popcorn*


Why would there be a conflict? Both feminists and LGBTQ activists take the position that "rape is bad", no matter who does it. The only people who think otherwise are certain members of the Republican party.
 
2013-02-06 01:40:16 AM  

AirForceVet: Since I got involved in GLBT equal rights and PFLAG, I was surprised about transgenders, the toughest acceptance for me to deal with personally.  After having a few beers with a transgender, I got it and was OK with it. Also, I learned that transgenders can have sexual orientation toward their original physical sex or the opposite of their original sex or be bisexual. Are you keeping up? I know this is confusing.

Anyway, I'm not surprised the asshat man-to-woman transgender raped a woman due to her sexual orientation. However, rape can also be tied to power so sexual orientation may not always be in mind.

/OK, I'm bowing out of this one.
//Please, any transgenders join in to express your views here.


One thing I've learned over my many years of knowing LGBT people is that people are, well, people. And some people are assholes. It wouldn't surprise me if we see this individual in the news again, post-op, for domestic violence, or even sexual assault. It may not be as common for women to commit these acts, but it certainly does happen, regardless of orientation.
 
2013-02-06 01:40:49 AM  

OscarTamerz: [www.tanyaparkermills.com image 183x275]Where's special agent Starling when you need her?


Probably lost in some woman's basement, if you know what I mean.
 
2013-02-06 01:42:23 AM  

super_grass: Feminists versus the LGBTUNWTFBBQMYSQL crowd?

*grabs popcorn*


No? Rape is bad and being transgender doesn't make rape okay..
 
2013-02-06 01:44:34 AM  
cdnimg.visualizeus.com
 
2013-02-06 01:47:00 AM  

reaperducer: It doesn't matter what you do to yourself on the outside, on the inside you are what you are.  If you're confused about that, check your DNA and your chromosomes.  If your psychology doesn't match your physiology, then fix the one that's broken.

Hint: It's not your body that's the problem.


That's not necessarily true. Sometimes people can be born XXY, although it's not too common. Also, what you got on the outside is 100% determined by how high your testosterone level is as you gestate (which is usually determined by your chromosomes, but there are other factors). So it's not always a psychological thing, sometimes the body really doesn't match the DNA.
 
2013-02-06 01:47:32 AM  
I believe we have found a new Final Boss of the Internet. Agreed?
 
2013-02-06 01:47:43 AM  

mafiageek1980: I'm Transgender (FTM, no surgery or "T") and frankly, It doesn't matter if the person that did this was transsexual or not, nor does it matter that possibly both of them are into BDSM. What DOES matter is this farktard raped someone. That's what should be the focus of this trial, not the fact that the rapist is transsexual. and yes, there IS a difference between transGENDER and transSEXUAL. We Trans folk have enough trouble as it is being accepted and the LAST thing we need is to be constantly reminded that this rapist just so happens to be TransSEXUAL. They are a rapist, plain and simple.


You're absolutely right.

But here on Fark, it does matter whether the defendant is hot.
 
2013-02-06 01:48:44 AM  

TheHighlandHowler: "He said that there was a sadomasochist dungeon in the house and would she like to see it?"

I won't go so far as to blame the victim, but jeez, say no.


Yeah,  pretty much. There are some things not to touch: rabid porcupines, coiled rattlesnakes, purple-haired trannies with no teeth offering to take you to their S&M dungeon...
 
2013-02-06 01:50:41 AM  

BojanglesPaladin: <tt>Trial judge Peter Heywood has agreed to refer to Williams, who has legally changed his name to Nadine, as "Miss" during proceedings.</tt>

If the defendant has a functioning penis which he has alegedly used to penetrate and rape a woman, the you DON'T call the defendant  "Miss".


You do if you want to get on with trying a rape case instead of listening to trivial motions and arguments.

/Can't believe we wasted three months on the Ft. Hood shooter's farking beard!
 
2013-02-06 01:54:46 AM  
Never go with an S&M pre-op tranny to a second location.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-06 01:58:27 AM  
i26.photobucket.com

"Whoa, transvestite, back off! Wait a minute...pre-op or
post-op?" "Pre-op." "Whoa, transvestite, back off!"
 
2013-02-06 02:02:19 AM  
"Mom?"   ...   "Dad?"


/oblig
 
2013-02-06 02:05:25 AM  

ClintonKun: [img.thesun.co.uk image 620x334]

I agree subby, this brutalist concrete monstrosity is pretty nasty looking.


LLYS Y GORON

You'd think they'd remember to spell check the sign over the entrance, at least...
 
2013-02-06 02:05:28 AM  
i46.tinypic.comi49.tinypic.com

/HAHAHA The Judge is Peter Hey Wood
 
2013-02-06 02:13:22 AM  

mafiageek1980: I'm Transgender (FTM, no surgery or "T") and frankly, It doesn't matter if the person that did this was transsexual or not, nor does it matter that possibly both of them are into BDSM. What DOES matter is this farktard raped someone. That's what should be the focus of this trial, not the fact that the rapist is transsexual. and yes, there IS a difference between transGENDER and transSEXUAL. We Trans folk have enough trouble as it is being accepted and the LAST thing we need is to be constantly reminded that this rapist just so happens to be TransSEXUAL. They are a rapist, plain and simple.


Allegedly raped someone. Innocent before proven guilty and all that, lest you forget.
 
2013-02-06 02:15:56 AM  
Sounds legitimate.
 
2013-02-06 02:19:45 AM  

Fecal Conservative: i49.tinypic.com

/HAHAHA The Judge is Peter Hey Wood



Peter Heywood is Bruce Willis?
 
2013-02-06 02:30:15 AM  

Don Draper the Legitimate Raper: Peter Heywood


You Tell Me:
law2.umkc.edu encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-06 02:30:58 AM  
You gonna get raped by Mr. Clean.
 
2013-02-06 02:36:46 AM  
Anyway, I'm not surprised the asshat man-to-woman transgender raped a woman due to her sexual orientation. However, rape can also be tied to power so sexual orientation may not always be in mind. OK, I'm bowing out of this one. Please, any transgenders join in to express your views here.

Okay. Trans woman well through transitioning and all that fun stuff, rape victim from childhood, undergrad college. Can confirm that some of us/them are weird indeed, and asshats like her give us translgbtqwertyghjkl* folk a bad name. The constant fragmentation and infighting within trans and lgbt groups doesn't help much either, on reddit/tumblar especially. It's hard to feel sympathetic with the ridiculous way that the sun portrays her, knowing that she raped someone, but it still isn't a respectful way to treat someone. I don't think news will be written like this is twenty years.

I'm gonna guess side effects of hormone treatments he started recently.

Yeah.. no. Mine and pretty much every other trans woman I've known have found that experience to be completely opposite of what you've described. Within a few weeks (days, for me) the male sex drive is extinguished and things down there begin to shrink. Androgen-blocking drugs convince your body to not produce testosterone (or in extremely low quantities) and shrink the testes/affect fertility, and the loss of spontaneous erections results in the penis being shorter. When erections did happen every ~month, they were painful and insufficient for sex.There is no way that hormones influenced her to commit rape.

Pre-op transsexual...Pre-op transsexual...Pre-op transsexual ... .... .... .... OH! You mean a man!

Yeah... no.. Genital correction surgery is not the only arbiter of transition. It really has been one of the less helpful things during transition. The vast majority of people you encounter see your face, your presentation, your voice (well, hear) and dress attire. Very few people aside from my boyfriend concerned themselves with my genitals. Although pants fitting more comfortably is pretty nice. In short, genital surgery is usually one of the final surgical/transitioning "steps" that one takes. It requires jumping though quite a few hoops. The outcome of one surgery didn't change my sex/gender identity/what have you, transitioning from age 14 to 21 did.

Trial judge Peter Heywood has agreed to refer to Williams, who has legally changed his her name to Nadine, as "Miss" during proceedings.

If the defendant has a functioning penis which he she has allegedly used to penetrate and rape a woman, the you DON'T call the defendant Miss


Why exactly not? Would you refer to her by her gender had she raped him with something else?

It doesn't matter what you do to yourself on the outside, on the inside you are what you are. If you're confused about that, check your DNA and your chromosomes. If your psychology doesn't match your physiology, then fix the one that's broken. Hint: It's not your body that's the problem.

What makes DNA and chromosomes the sole deciding factor of her gender? Chromosomes can and usually do impact physical sex (what you're born with, basically) but are completely irrelevant to gender identity and presentation. I did fix the one that was broken. Go on and invent a way to drug away gender dysphoria, and in the mean time, we'll continue to transition so we can have fix what was wrong and have fulfilling lives.

/probably going to get so many notes attached to my handle
//life story tldr: raped at 8, started blocking testosterone at 16, full hormone treatment and driver's license/papers switched at 17-18, facial and genital corrective surgeries last summer
///slashies belong in threes
 
2013-02-06 02:40:52 AM  

Fecal Conservative: You Tell Me:
law2.umkc.edu encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com


Yeah... no.

Dwedit: You gonna get raped by Mr. Clean Dean.


/and she did
 
2013-02-06 03:09:55 AM  
Good lord, it's Benny Hill.
 
2013-02-06 03:13:58 AM  

SupersonicII: mafiageek1980: I'm Transgender (FTM, no surgery or "T") and frankly, It doesn't matter if the person that did this was transsexual or not, nor does it matter that possibly both of them are into BDSM. What DOES matter is this farktard raped someone. That's what should be the focus of this trial, not the fact that the rapist is transsexual. and yes, there IS a difference between transGENDER and transSEXUAL. We Trans folk have enough trouble as it is being accepted and the LAST thing we need is to be constantly reminded that this rapist just so happens to be TransSEXUAL. They are a rapist, plain and simple.

Allegedly raped someone. Innocent before proven guilty and all that, lest you forget.


Presumed not guilty at trial,
Assumed guilty before and during trial, other wise there would be no trial
presumption and assumption in arguments
How does that work?

There is no finding of innocent at trial, ever
 
2013-02-06 03:17:52 AM  
Okay, I *GET* that its never okay to say "she was asking for it" but...  If a man asks you "Do you want to see my sex dungeon?" and you follow him...

Lets just say that it takes every fiber of will to be politically correct here.

/ it does not excuse it, but HOLY CRAP, WHAT WAS SHE THINKING?
 
2013-02-06 03:23:20 AM  
Assumed rapist ... I like that

kinda like arrest records regardless of convictions
 
2013-02-06 03:26:45 AM  
I don't think she looks that bad ...
 
2013-02-06 03:33:11 AM  
Eh, it's The Sun. I'm surprised they didn't say the woman was raped with a strap-on forged out of welfare coins
 
2013-02-06 03:39:59 AM  

Awful Sheep: life story tldr: raped at 8, started blocking testosterone at 16, full hormone treatment and driver's license/papers switched at 17-18, facial and genital corrective surgeries last summer


I have a question, which I am asking in the most respectful way I can:

In your one-sentence mini-life story about transitioning, why did you start with being raped as a child? If you're born that way -- and I believe everyone is -- why is that relevant?
 
2013-02-06 04:18:33 AM  
i69.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-06 04:43:31 AM  
Clown sex.
 
2013-02-06 04:45:59 AM  
scrolling backwards did not help.
 
2013-02-06 05:23:56 AM  
howtonotsuck.com
 
2013-02-06 05:27:40 AM  
img.thesun.co.uk

Pre-op tranny's got guilty written all over him.
 
2013-02-06 06:28:22 AM  
i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-02-06 06:39:45 AM  
I can hear /b/ furiously masturbating from here.
 
2013-02-06 06:39:57 AM  
I worked in 'frisco for 12 years
and I've seen terrible things

but this walking atrocity made me regret being sentient
Ygaak!
 
2013-02-06 06:54:53 AM  

mafiageek1980: I'm Transgender (FTM, no surgery or "T") and frankly, It doesn't matter if the person that did this was transsexual or not, nor does it matter that possibly both of them are into BDSM. What DOES matter is this farktard raped someone. That's what should be the focus of this trial, not the fact that the rapist is transsexual. and yes, there IS a difference between transGENDER and transSEXUAL. We Trans folk have enough trouble as it is being accepted and the LAST thing we need is to be constantly reminded that this rapist just so happens to be TransSEXUAL. They are a rapist, plain and simple.


You took the words right out of my mouth. Glad to hear it coming from you instead of myself who is just a friend of the community.

It would be like an article about a black rapist, repeatedly being referred to as "the black rapist." Methinks that would not go well.
 
2013-02-06 07:04:07 AM  
At least the subby didn't call Na-Dean "smoking hot".
 
2013-02-06 07:15:15 AM  
Heyyy you guyyyyys!
 
2013-02-06 07:39:36 AM  

gunther_bumpass: Good lord, it's Benny Hill.


Funny I didnt hear yakety sax
 
2013-02-06 07:49:09 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-06 07:58:31 AM  
Oh I get it what this thread needs is som eye-bleech ; )
i1087.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-06 08:14:20 AM  
Sensationalist UK journalism again.  It shouldn't really matter that the person's gender expression should make it into the headline of the article.

I will agree that I've met some nutjobs in the LGBT community, but I wouldn't say it's a higher percentage than straight folks.  Though many transgender people have serious depression caused by their inner turmoil.  For me, hormone therapy to remove testosterone has made me a much more pleasant person to be around, and my wife can finally enjoy riding when I'm driving because my road rage is gone.  I don't like my man-parts, and now that they've shrunk and non-functional, I'm finally happy.  Please don't judge the entire trans community based on this crazy person.
 
2013-02-06 08:15:33 AM  

MadAzza: Awful Sheep: life story tldr: raped at 8, started blocking testosterone at 16, full hormone treatment and driver's license/papers switched at 17-18, facial and genital corrective surgeries last summer

I have a question, which I am asking in the most respectful way I can:

In your one-sentence mini-life story about transitioning, why did you start with being raped as a child? If you're born that way -- and I believe everyone is -- why is that relevant?


Because that way people can't disagree or negatively comment on her post without "attacking a child rape victim".
 
2013-02-06 08:16:45 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Oh I get it what this thread needs is som eye-bleech ; )
[i1087.photobucket.com image 681x939]


"Who farted, y'all?"
 
2013-02-06 08:19:38 AM  
It's a trap
 
2013-02-06 08:22:37 AM  
Fifty shades of blargh.
 
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