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(Huffington Post)   Wyoming legislators coming to grip with the fact that God hasn't given the Sodom and Gomorrah treatment to states which allows gays to marry   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 231
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2013-02-05 02:46:40 PM  
So, there's an expiration date on it?  How did you find out? !
 
2013-02-05 03:14:04 PM  
That uncomfortable moment when you realize you're on the wrong side of history.
 
2013-02-05 03:17:32 PM  
And the walls come tumbling down.
 
2013-02-05 03:18:07 PM  
How can you live in Wyoming and believe God has time enough to f*ck with anyone else?
 
2013-02-05 03:21:02 PM  
Goddamn Evangelicals. come with me to camera 3...

Look, we get it, you guys are all pissy about gays because people tolerate them and the idea of sweet man on man action gets you all hot and bothered, but not in the good way. We get it, you have tolerance issues. "But god says it's not good!" and that's fine. Believe what a 4000 year old book tells you. But God is not your own personal hitman. He has shiat that needs to get done and can't deal with "but but but, this state *lets* gays get married! it's an affont to your name!". You know why? Cause you're a goddamn affont to his name. Stop trying to get him to do your shiat. He had a kid now. Having a kid changes you and his son told you to turn the other cheek. SInce then, God doesn't seem to get so pissy, now doesn't he. I mean you lot killed his kid, I'm pretty sure he'd get pretty pissed right off the bat with that, but he didn't. Maybe because he's become more accepting in his old age, much like you should.

You want to believe that you're made in God's own image, that's fine. But you have to evolve like he did. Now shut up and accept that gays exist and will be there no matter how many "but but but! Leviticus!!!" stammering stomps you put up.
 
2013-02-05 03:22:29 PM  
FTFA:  These developments come in a state that, at least to gay rights activists, will long be remembered as the place where Matthew Shepard, a gay college student, was killed in a 1998 attack that police said was motivated in part by his sexual orientation.

15 years and the line finally budges.
 
2013-02-05 03:23:28 PM  
I spent a month in Wyoming doing some environmental work and what a weird place that is. I'm from Florida, Florida makes sense. That place is bizarre. There's lots of antelopes though and the Close Encounters mountain too, so it definitely has its charms. Plus I saw a tornado.

I don't think I saw many women though. You'd think they'd be a leader in gay rights.
 
2013-02-05 03:23:48 PM  
somedude210:

*slow golfclap*
 
2013-02-05 03:26:46 PM  
Evangelicals and all religious followers, decide themselves, what their 'God' wants.

Not the other way around.
 
2013-02-05 03:32:06 PM  
My understanding of Wyoming/Montana/Idaho culture is that they are less about "this country needs more Jesus" and more about "you gubmint types can't tell me how to run my life" sort of thing, so gay rights would be consistent with their beliefs.
 
2013-02-05 03:37:17 PM  

make me some tea: My understanding of Wyoming/Montana/Idaho culture is that they are less about "this country needs more Jesus" and more about "you gubmint types can't tell me how to run my life" sort of thing, so gay rights would be consistent with their beliefs.


Bullshiat. The rest of the GOP claims to espouse the same thing and they are more than happy to legally oppress homosexuals.
 
2013-02-05 03:41:17 PM  
Well, it that case, they're not invited to the show:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6cL8KrIx18
 
2013-02-05 03:44:11 PM  

somedude210: You know why? Cause you're a goddamn affont to his name. Stop trying to get him to do your shiat. He had a kid now. Having a kid changes you and his son told you to turn the other cheek. SInce then, God doesn't seem to get so pissy, now doesn't he. I mean you lot killed his kid, I'm pretty sure he'd get pretty pissed right off the bat with that, but he didn't. Maybe because he's become more accepting in his old age, much like you should.


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2013-02-05 03:44:28 PM  
Baker said homosexual men die young from AIDS and other medical conditions.

Does this guy know it's not 1981 any more?

I'm surprised he didn't call it GRID
 
2013-02-05 03:45:46 PM  

Nadie_AZ: And the walls come tumbling down.


Thank you, President Bartlett.
 
2013-02-05 03:46:40 PM  

Godscrack: Evangelicals and all religious followers, decide themselves, what their 'God' wants.

Not the other way around.


From the ground up, or from the top down? That's the real question facing all religions.

/from my perspective, it's obviously from the ground up
 
2013-02-05 03:49:30 PM  
Hutchings called on gays and lesbians to "please stop carpet-bagging on our civil rights movement."

What a lovely person.

It's a nice mix of "diversity only means us" and "I got mine now fark you."
 
2013-02-05 03:50:06 PM  

make me some tea: My understanding of Wyoming/Montana/Idaho culture is that they are less about "this country needs more Jesus" and more about "you gubmint types can't tell me how to run my life" sort of thing, so gay rights would be consistent with their beliefs.


So more libertarian? What's the official Libertarian party's stance on gay marriage? I'd have to assume they are for it?
 
2013-02-05 03:50:36 PM  

SurfaceTension: From the ground up, or from the top down? That's the real question facing all religions.


With Evangelicals in particular, though? Depends on what's selling this year. I hear the gospel of prosperity is still pretty hot. It's all fashion.
 
2013-02-05 03:54:16 PM  

nekom: make me some tea: My understanding of Wyoming/Montana/Idaho culture is that they are less about "this country needs more Jesus" and more about "you gubmint types can't tell me how to run my life" sort of thing, so gay rights would be consistent with their beliefs.

So more libertarian? What's the official Libertarian party's stance on gay marriage? I'd have to assume they are for it?


I think they are, and also pro drug legalization. More info

GAT_00: Bullshiat. The rest of the GOP claims to espouse the same thing and they are more than happy to legally oppress homosexuals.


Way to generalize.
 
2013-02-05 04:01:21 PM  

Diogenes: Hutchings called on gays and lesbians to "please stop carpet-bagging on our civil rights movement."

What a lovely person.

It's a nice mix of "diversity only means us" and "I got mine now fark you."


people like that break my heart by proving just how much thiey failed to learn the lessons of their own history.  It reminds me of the militant Israeli settlers who racially demonize the Plaestinians and claim they need Gaza a "living space" for them and theirs
 
2013-02-05 04:03:22 PM  

SurfaceTension: Godscrack: Evangelicals and all religious followers, decide themselves, what their 'God' wants.

Not the other way around.

From the ground up, or from the top down? That's the real question facing all religions.

/from my perspective, it's obviously from the ground up


Gay rights are always from the bottom up.
 
2013-02-05 04:03:37 PM  

make me some tea: Way to generalize.


except that it is a generalization that bears out in reality.
 
2013-02-05 04:10:56 PM  

Magorn: Diogenes: Hutchings called on gays and lesbians to "please stop carpet-bagging on our civil rights movement."

What a lovely person.

It's a nice mix of "diversity only means us" and "I got mine now fark you."

people like that break my heart by proving just how much thiey failed to learn the lessons of their own history.  It reminds me of the militant Israeli settlers who racially demonize the Plaestinians and claim they need Gaza a "living space" for them and theirs


If that's human nature then I want to tear up my membership card.  It's tribalism of the basest sort.
 
2013-02-05 04:11:53 PM  

make me some tea: Way to generalize.


The vast majority of elected Republicans are acting to ban gay rights.  Banning gay marriage was a main plank in the national platform for the 2012 election.  The actions of a few does not change that the focus of the party is to take rights away from homosexuals.
 
2013-02-05 04:16:29 PM  

KarmicDisaster: SurfaceTension: Godscrack: Evangelicals and all religious followers, decide themselves, what their 'God' wants.

Not the other way around.

From the ground up, or from the top down? That's the real question facing all religions.

/from my perspective, it's obviously from the ground up

Gay rights are always from the bottom up.


Unless you're kinky, then it's Top down.
 
2013-02-05 04:20:28 PM  

GAT_00: make me some tea: Way to generalize.

The vast majority of elected Republicans are acting to ban gay rights.  Banning gay marriage was a main plank in the national platform for the 2012 election.  The actions of a few does not change that the focus of the party is to take rights away from homosexuals.


Which is exactly what makes this happening in Wyoming remarkable. That was my point.
 
2013-02-05 04:22:57 PM  

make me some tea: GAT_00: make me some tea: Way to generalize.

The vast majority of elected Republicans are acting to ban gay rights.  Banning gay marriage was a main plank in the national platform for the 2012 election.  The actions of a few does not change that the focus of the party is to take rights away from homosexuals.

Which is exactly what makes this happening in Wyoming remarkable. That was my point.


I'm just waiting for some ulterior motive of personal profit or benefit to show up.
 
2013-02-05 04:31:20 PM  

GAT_00: I'm just waiting for some ulterior motive of personal profit or benefit to show up.


"I don't want businesses like Google, Microsoft, and the many, many others that offer benefits to all spouses (not just the ones with interlocking parts) to feel like they're not welcome in Wisconsin. There are a whole host of business reasons to not object to gays and lesbians marrying, and no business reason to object." is all the GOP needs to say to placate the Randians.

Of course, they never will, since the God Squad is an important part of the base as well.

// shrinking like a phallus in ice water, but an important part nonetheless (for the moment, anyway)
// I think most of the GOP is starting to come around, and by 2020, everyone but UT, AZ, OK and maybe 3 or 4 others will have marriage equality by law
// something Federal, perhaps, in the next admin (if it's a Democrat)
 
2013-02-05 04:41:01 PM  
FTA: "I think people are beginning to realize that this is just not a big deal. The sky doesn't fall," said Sen. Cale Case, R-Lander, who signed on as a co-sponsor on the anti-discrimination bill.

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GAT_00: Bullshiat. The rest of the GOP claims to espouse the same thing and they are more than happy to legally oppress homosexuals.

make me some tea: Way to generalize.


Yeah, almost one-in-six self-identifying as "Strong Republican" support legal gay marriage. It might even be one-in-five by now!
 
2013-02-05 04:52:35 PM  
"Folks that have at their core, strong religious beliefs, I've heard from them and they've been critical," Case said.


Matthew 7:12  Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets

Luke 6:31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

No longer considered parts of a core of strong religious belief?
 
2013-02-05 04:53:15 PM  
Oh and good for you, Wyoming, for at least starting to move in the right direction.
 
2013-02-05 04:53:15 PM  

FloydA: "Folks that have at their core, strong religious beliefs, I've heard from them and they've been critical," Case said.


Matthew 7:12  Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets

Luke 6:31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

No longer considered parts of a core of strong religious belief?


They've never been core parts of strong religious belief for basically anyone.
 
2013-02-05 05:09:49 PM  
Yet.
 
2013-02-05 05:11:33 PM  

Confabulat: I spent a month in Wyoming doing some environmental work and what a weird place that is. I'm from Florida, Florida makes sense. That place is bizarre. There's lots of antelopes though and the Close Encounters mountain too, so it definitely has its charms. Plus I saw a tornado.

I don't think I saw many women though. You'd think they'd be a leader in gay rights.


They're in the kitchen or in the barn.

/srsly
 
2013-02-05 05:12:59 PM  
I honestly wonder if there isn't something to the low population density.  What you do is your own business - I'll never see it.  Literally.
 
2013-02-05 05:13:43 PM  
"Lawmakers squirrel away much of the revenue from the state's mineral wealth in a multi-billion-dollar savings account they can't touch without voters' OK."

Wait, you mean Congressional Republicans never raid the Social Security money for pork back home?  Or immediately and drastically slash taxes when times are good on the assumption that they can never ever go bad, or if they do, we'll just stop funneling slave reparations to Trayvon Martin?  They never vote to build tanks that the Pentagon says it can't use, because they already have 2000 too many?

Typical liberal-biased media at work.
 
2013-02-05 05:18:07 PM  

Magorn: Diogenes: Hutchings called on gays and lesbians to "please stop carpet-bagging on our civil rights movement."

What a lovely person.

It's a nice mix of "diversity only means us" and "I got mine now fark you."

people like that break my heart by proving just how much thiey failed to learn the lessons of their own history.  It reminds me of the militant Israeli settlers who racially demonize the Plaestinians and claim they need Gaza a "living space" for them and theirs


You mean a Lebensraum? Who would have thunk that?
 
2013-02-05 05:20:01 PM  
Maybe they should do a economic study on the impact of Brokeback Mountain themed weddings in the state and reconsider the down vote.
 
2013-02-05 05:22:00 PM  
I love how bigots consider granting equality to people being discriminated against makes those people a 'protected class'.
 
2013-02-05 05:22:15 PM  
Lawmakers squirrel away much of the revenue from the state's mineral wealth in a multi-billion-dollar savings account they can't touch without voters' OK.

Yeah, not only am I not seeing the problem with this, I'm not seeing what makes is specifically "conservative".
 
2013-02-05 05:22:41 PM  

somedude210: You want to believe that you're made in God's own image, that's fine. But you have to evolve like he did. Now shut up and accept that gays exist and will be there no matter how many "but but but! Leviticus!!!" stammering stomps you put up.


Do you have a preferred shade of green?  :-)
 
2013-02-05 05:24:14 PM  
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Tell me again how you use these balls...
 
2013-02-05 05:24:24 PM  
Baker warned that the bill would increase health care costs, grow government and drum up more business for funeral homes.
Baker said homosexual men die young from AIDS and other medical conditions.


This just in, heterosexuals do not die young.
 
2013-02-05 05:24:54 PM  
I WONDER WHY WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND GOD BY GIVING HIM HUMAN TRAITS LIKE ANGER AND HATE

I WONDER
 
2013-02-05 05:25:38 PM  
 
2013-02-05 05:28:08 PM  

FloydA: Oh and good for you, Wyoming, for at least starting to move in the right direction.


More like starting to think about possibly moving in the right direction at some unidentified time in the future.
 
2013-02-05 05:29:01 PM  
"I think people are beginning to realize that this is just not a big deal. The sky doesn't fall," said Sen. Cale Case, R-Lander, who signed on as a co-sponsor on the anti-discrimination bill.

oh its still a big deal to the evangelicals.  they really DO NOT want to see gay marriage legal around the country.  problem is...people are starting to question WHY gays shouldn't be allowed to marry.  the evangelical answer of 'because god said so' falls flat.  'because WE said so' doesn't work for people either.  Once the ball drops on gay marriage, I wonder if we'll see evangelicals lose even more authority over time?
 
2013-02-05 05:30:44 PM  
 
2013-02-05 05:38:32 PM  
Lawmakers squirrel away much of the revenue from the state's mineral wealth in a multi-billion-dollar savings account they can't touch without voters' OK.

Oh noes, the horror! I know HuffPost didn't necessarily mean to say this like it was a bad thing, but still amusing to read in context.
 
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