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2013-02-05 12:20:45 PM  
Many, many days I have failed to fight perfectly. I have at many times in my walk stooped down and willingly spoon-fed myself the familiar, vile vomit that is sin.

Sounds like he hooked up with my ex-boyfriend.
 
2013-02-05 12:27:49 PM  
You know, I almost hope that guys like this are just cynical assholes trying to grift gullible Christians while secretly and without a hint of compunction banging every hot guy who comes down the pike.

The alternative, that they are just engaged in a pointless and neverending struggle against their own natural sexual urges, is a little too sad to contemplate.
 
2013-02-05 12:39:35 PM  
Man, this dude is farked up. All the signs of a homophobic gay basher.

That's what happens when you're homosexual and try to embrace any popular religion.
 
2013-02-05 12:42:23 PM  

gilgigamesh: The alternative, that they are just engaged in a pointless and neverending struggle against their own natural sexual urges, is a little too sad to contemplate.


The son of one of my mom's friends is one of those dudes. He renounced homosexuality and became a born-again Christian after being diagnosed with HIV several years ago.

I've met the guy, and he's so flaming, he makes Richard Simmons look butch.
 
2013-02-05 12:43:00 PM  
There's no self-hate quite like religious self-hate.
 
2013-02-05 12:43:35 PM  

gilgigamesh: You know, I almost hope that guys like this are just cynical assholes trying to grift gullible Christians while secretly and without a hint of compunction banging every hot guy who comes down the pike.

The alternative, that they are just engaged in a pointless and neverending struggle against their own natural sexual urges, is a little too sad to contemplate.


Nah, I'm all to familiar with his ilk...they are unfortunately the latter. Reading the kid's blog postings was way too much deja vu. It's all written in evangelical code.

"Although I have same sex thoughts on a daily basis..." = "I'm Still Gay..."
"...I do not, in any way, feel compelled to ever return to a lifestyle of homosexuality..."  = "...
but for now my shame over that is keeping me deeply closeted, even to myself."
"Many, many days I have failed to fight perfectly..."  = "I frequently end up having sex with other guys"
" I have at many times in my walk stooped down and willingly spoon-fed myself the familiar, vile vomit that is sin..." = "...the freaky stuff."
"Yet, in each and every one of my failures- I was given grace;grace to repent and to keep following after Jesus." = "...after each binge of risky, anonymous sexual activity I immediately collapse into a shameful, guilt-ridden mess and blame it all on my sexual orientation when in fact (ironically) it's the very closeted lifestyle I lead that compels me to act out in such dangerous, unhealthy ways."
 
2013-02-05 12:44:28 PM  
Though the fact that the Grindr profile used the same photo of Moore found on his Christian Post page left room for equivocation, Moore himself quickly confirmed to Jones that it was truly him on Grindr, and that he had once again strayed from the Righteous Path.
"Creating a grindr profile and talking to guys on it was major disobedience on my part," he told Jones, "disobedience to Christ."
He continued: "Thankfully, I believe that He forgives me for this disobedience. I believe the blood of Christ covers this disobedience. And I won't be on grindr again....ever."

....man, it must suck to be gay, gay-hating Christian,  and stupid.
 
2013-02-05 12:49:12 PM  

kid_icarus: "Yet, in each and every one of my failures- I was given grace;grace to repent and to keep following after Jesus." = "...after each binge of risky, anonymous sexual activity I immediately collapse into a shameful, guilt-ridden mess and blame it all on my sexual orientation when in fact (ironically) it's the very closeted lifestyle I lead that compels me to act out in such dangerous, unhealthy ways."


That's an interesting point.  I'd bet all that repression does lead to acting out in the form of unsafe sex, and that compared to emotionally healthy, well adjusted gay men, the HIV rates for these "ex" gays is through the roof.
 
2013-02-05 12:55:11 PM  
Is the Obvious tag broken?
 
2013-02-05 01:00:02 PM  

gilgigamesh: I'd bet all that repression does lead to acting out in the form of unsafe sex


Not necessarily. Some 'well adjusted' gay men just happen to be more talented than the vanilla ones.
 
2013-02-05 01:08:17 PM  
"I can, in truth, firmly say that the longer I keep turning away from my homosexual desires, the less in strength they become," Moore wrote in "My Story: Homosexuality, Drunkenness, Grace and Redemption." Several months later, Moore was still fighting back his natural inclinations. "Although I have same sex thoughts on a daily basis, I do not, in any way, feel compelled to ever return to a lifestyle of homosexuality," he wrote last August.

I have to be honest. If I were gay, I would be turned off by guys who reject what and who they are. Why do gay men (or women) seem ok with this hatred of self and preference?
 
2013-02-05 01:12:22 PM  

Nadie_AZ: "I can, in truth, firmly say that the longer I keep turning away from my homosexual desires, the less in strength they become," Moore wrote in "My Story: Homosexuality, Drunkenness, Grace and Redemption." Several months later, Moore was still fighting back his natural inclinations. "Although I have same sex thoughts on a daily basis, I do not, in any way, feel compelled to ever return to a lifestyle of homosexuality," he wrote last August.

I have to be honest. If I were gay, I would be turned off by guys who reject what and who they are. Why do gay men (or women) seem ok with this hatred of self and preference?


Er, many (most?) of us aren't?  There's a bit of empathy, obviously, because many gay men have "been there/done that" - at least, to the extent of being closeted - but the outright "being gay is wrong, now suck my dick" types?  No, sorry.
 
2013-02-05 01:16:09 PM  
Yawn.  Another lying POS who hides behind a bigoted religious perspective to justify himself and who does his best to inflict his self-hate on everyone he can.
 
2013-02-05 01:31:08 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-05 01:32:54 PM  

Godscrack: Man, this dude is farked up. All the signs of a homophobic gay basher.

That's what happens when you're homosexual and try to embrace any popular religion.


When we lived in Texas(!), we attended a Baptist(!!) church in which there was an openly gay couple. They even served in various capacities. Now we're back in Oklahoma, and the Baptist churches don't seem that open, unfortunately.

We didn't attend very long before we moved, so I didn't get to know them, but I always wanted to ask them what it was like to be openly gay in a Baptist church, and why not head for another denomination.
 
2013-02-05 01:36:11 PM  

kid_icarus: Many, many days I have failed to fight perfectly. I have at many times in my walk stooped down and willingly spoon-fed myself the familiar, vile vomit that is sin.

Sounds like he hooked up with my ex-boyfriend.


Your ex-boyfriend sounds sinfully delicious.
 
2013-02-05 01:38:18 PM  

incendi: Though the fact that the Grindr profile used the same photo of Moore found on his Christian Post page left room for equivocation, Moore himself quickly confirmed to Jones that it was truly him on Grindr, and that he had once again strayed from the Righteous Path.
"Creating a grindr profile and talking to guys on it was major disobedience on my part," he told Jones, "disobedience to Christ."
He continued: "Thankfully, I believe that He forgives me for this disobedience. I believe the blood of Christ covers this disobedience. And I won't be on grindr again....ever."

....man, it must suck to be gay, gay-hating Christian,  and stupid.


He sounds incredibly pathetic.
 
2013-02-05 01:40:46 PM  

Cythraul: kid_icarus: Many, many days I have failed to fight perfectly. I have at many times in my walk stooped down and willingly spoon-fed myself the familiar, vile vomit that is sin.

Sounds like he hooked up with my ex-boyfriend.

Your ex-boyfriend sounds sinfully delicious.


Wait, he's a leprechaun?
 
2013-02-05 01:43:14 PM  

gilgigamesh: Cythraul: kid_icarus: Many, many days I have failed to fight perfectly. I have at many times in my walk stooped down and willingly spoon-fed myself the familiar, vile vomit that is sin.

Sounds like he hooked up with my ex-boyfriend.

Your ex-boyfriend sounds sinfully delicious.

Wait, he's a leprechaun?


Meh.  As long as his maximum height reaches my waist line.
 
2013-02-05 01:43:40 PM  
Sex Thoughts
 
2013-02-05 01:47:08 PM  

Cythraul: Meh.  As long as his maximum height reaches my waist line.


Also, give him a hat that will safely hold your beer.
 
2013-02-05 01:48:30 PM  
I feel sorry for these people.  Thanks to some religions, they're faced with a choice:  come to terms with the fact that they're attracted to the same sex, or go to hell.  If they are true believers, they're stuck in an untenable position.  If it's part of the natural order that some people are attracted to the same sex, then the religion is wrong...something that they wouldn't embrace.  If they embrace their religion then they're fighting an eternal battle with themselves that they can't win.
 
2013-02-05 02:20:15 PM  
Dude. You're gay. It's biology. You can't pray it away, you're only making yourself more miserable.
 
2013-02-05 02:38:39 PM  
Oh lawdy. We've been re-headlined and greened into politics... this should be interesting.
 
2013-02-05 02:39:08 PM  
I remember the first straight person I explained Grindr to. "Its like a gaydar app".
 
2013-02-05 02:43:06 PM  

vernonFL: I remember the first straight person I explained Grindr to. "Its like a gaydar app".


Is Grindr any good?  I've avoided it since it seems too hook-up focused.
 
2013-02-05 02:45:09 PM  

Nadie_AZ: I have to be honest. If I were gay, I would be turned off by guys who reject what and who they are. Why do gay men (or women) seem ok with this hatred of self and preference?


Not all gay people stick in the confines of living the total gay lifestyle. Only going to gar bars/businesses, reading gay papers, going to gay restaurants, only liking gay people, ect. Some are able to blend in anywhere they want, which also has it's advantages. That doesn't mean they're closeted or self-hating. The only people that are usually jealous because they can't blend in. They aren't confident enough to just be themselves.

From a platonic friendship to love, real relationships see no color, age, sex, or sexual orientation. People would be alot happier if they just let things be what they're gonna be.

Once they start looking for outside influences or religions for guidance, they will always find themselves frustrated and lost.
 
2013-02-05 02:45:18 PM  
Wasn't there some politician who had that app on his phone, claimed he didn't know how it got there?
 
2013-02-05 02:45:55 PM  
I don't get it.  if he's gay, then why not just be happy being gay?  i'm straight and i'm happy being straight.  if I tried to be gay, i'd fail miserably at it.  why try and be something you KNOW will only make you unhappy?
 
2013-02-05 02:48:14 PM  
See, Evangelicals?  If you think your kid might choose to be gay, you can show them what a wonderful choice it is to choose Jesus instead.  They can be as happy and fulfilled as this righteous young man!
 
2013-02-05 02:49:05 PM  

Weaver95: I don't get it.  if he's gay, then why not just be happy being gay?  i'm straight and i'm happy being straight.  if I tried to be gay, i'd fail miserably at it.  why try and be something you KNOW will only make you unhappy?


You know the answer.

God and sin and hell and all that dogmatic religious sh*t.
 
2013-02-05 02:49:25 PM  
FTFA: "Creating a grindr profile and talking to guys on it was major disobedience on my part," he told Jones, "disobedience to Christ."

Weird. I was raised Catholic and have read the Bible. Could someone point me to the passage where Jesus says being gay is "disobedient"? I already found the passage where he condemns those who open Grindr profiles.
 
2013-02-05 02:50:46 PM  

busy chillin': Weaver95: I don't get it.  if he's gay, then why not just be happy being gay?  i'm straight and i'm happy being straight.  if I tried to be gay, i'd fail miserably at it.  why try and be something you KNOW will only make you unhappy?

You know the answer.

God and sin and hell and all that dogmatic religious sh*t.


then get better gods.

media-dl.chimein.com
 
2013-02-05 02:50:54 PM  
You'd think that God and JC would be better at curing the repentant after being born again.  I say baptize him again until it sticks; perhaps even resorting to enhanced baptism should it prove necessary.
 
2013-02-05 02:51:22 PM  

Cythraul: it seems too hook-up focused.


That is the point. Its for anonymous sex between strange men. If you want classy, go to Craigslist!
 
2013-02-05 02:51:41 PM  

Godscrack: Not all gay people stick in the confines of living the total gay lifestyle. Only going to gar bars/businesses, reading gay papers, going to gay restaurants, only liking gay people, ect. Some are able to blend in anywhere they want, which also has it's advantages.


I get that. In fact, I would imagine this is pretty commonplace. Normal. But the hating of yourself and the hating that you are gay and that gay exists and that hatred is so full of hate that it drives you to be vicious about the whole thing- that's what I can't get.
 
2013-02-05 02:52:01 PM  
awkward
 
2013-02-05 02:52:15 PM  
Never, ever date these guys. They act all randy at night but the next day they blame your for their cocklust.
 
2013-02-05 02:52:25 PM  
He continued: "Thankfully, I believe that He forgives me for this disobedience. I believe the blood of Christ covers this disobedience. And I won't be on grindr again....ever."

So craigslist then?
 
2013-02-05 02:52:47 PM  

Weaver95: busy chillin': Weaver95: I don't get it.  if he's gay, then why not just be happy being gay?  i'm straight and i'm happy being straight.  if I tried to be gay, i'd fail miserably at it.  why try and be something you KNOW will only make you unhappy?

You know the answer.

God and sin and hell and all that dogmatic religious sh*t.

then get better gods.

[media-dl.chimein.com image 500x375]


Wow talk about a great quote for agnostics.
 
2013-02-05 02:52:47 PM  

Weaver95: busy chillin': Weaver95: I don't get it.  if he's gay, then why not just be happy being gay?  i'm straight and i'm happy being straight.  if I tried to be gay, i'd fail miserably at it.  why try and be something you KNOW will only make you unhappy?

You know the answer.

God and sin and hell and all that dogmatic religious sh*t.

then get better gods.

[media-dl.chimein.com image 500x375]


I agree, but that ain't up to me. Talk to the self-loathing Christians.

I lost my religion years ago.
 
2013-02-05 02:53:29 PM  

vernonFL: Cythraul: it seems too hook-up focused.

That is the point. Its for anonymous sex between strange men. If you want classy, go to Craigslist!


i76.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-05 02:53:43 PM  
Oh well, at least he admitted it was him "disobeying Christ", not something like "I was trying to look for people to convert" or some cover story.
 
2013-02-05 02:53:48 PM  

Weaver95: I don't get it.  if he's gay, then why not just be happy being gay?  i'm straight and i'm happy being straight.  if I tried to be gay, i'd fail miserably at it.  why try and be something you KNOW will only make you unhappy?


I think they see value in suffering for the faith. Like a "faith is easy if you never have to sacrifice" kind of thing.

I always wonder if christians love god more than they fear hell.
 
2013-02-05 02:53:55 PM  

Weaver95: busy chillin': Weaver95: I don't get it.  if he's gay, then why not just be happy being gay?  i'm straight and i'm happy being straight.  if I tried to be gay, i'd fail miserably at it.  why try and be something you KNOW will only make you unhappy?

You know the answer.

God and sin and hell and all that dogmatic religious sh*t.

then get better gods.

[media-dl.chimein.com image 500x375]


That's unchristian.

Literally, it is unchristian. It goes against the salvation by grace idea put forth by most Christian sects in some way. The religion depends on the idea that you are saved by accepting a god. It's why I can't wrap my head around it. The god is so petty and mean and insecure it's just sad. There's also the "god loves everyone" thing that goes against that idea. Who wants a god who rules by passive aggression?
 
2013-02-05 02:54:32 PM  

Weaver95: I don't get it.  if he's gay, then why not just be happy being gay?  i'm straight and i'm happy being straight.  if I tried to be gay, i'd fail miserably at it.  why try and be something you KNOW will only make you unhappy?


Because thousands of years ago some guys in a desert thought it was bad to be gay.
 
2013-02-05 02:55:06 PM  

kbronsito: He continued: "Thankfully, I believe that He forgives me for this disobedience. I believe the blood of Christ covers this disobedience. And I won't be on grindr again....ever."

So craigslist then?


Manhunt.
 
2013-02-05 02:55:21 PM  
It's actually ok to be gay, as long as you are the bitter self-loathing type that agrees that your feelings are bad and you should feel bad.

What Christians really hate are the happy gays.

/is that redundant?
 
2013-02-05 02:55:38 PM  
busy chillin':

I agree, but that ain't up to me. Talk to the self-loathing Christians.

I lost my religion years ago.


I think I might have accidentally taken my own advice and crossed a line I didn't even realize was there 'till I was several miles past it.

evangelical christians are the best way I know of to convince people to NOT be any sort of christian anymore.
 
2013-02-05 02:58:29 PM  

Bloody William: Literally, it is unchristian. It goes against the salvation by grace idea put forth by most Christian sects in some way. The religion depends on the idea that you are saved by accepting a god. It's why I can't wrap my head around it. The god is so petty and mean and insecure it's just sad. There's also the "god loves everyone" thing that goes against that idea. Who wants a god who rules by passive aggression?


if a god is that judgmental and insecure, then i'm not sure it's a just god in the first place.  or maybe it's just the followers who are insecure and petty.  either way, it's not a religion worth following.  even the Romans didn't force people to change their gods, they just expected you to pay your taxes on time and not go on murder sprees during religious holidays (i'm looking YOU, ya psycho druid types!)
 
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