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(The Daily Dolt)   Ron Paul Tweet manages to unite Democrats and Republicans in bipartisan disgust. Awww, it's nice to see everyone getting along now   (thedailydolt.com) divider line 140
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2013-02-05 08:33:15 AM  
He looks so pathetic in that photo :(
 
2013-02-05 09:09:10 AM  
I'm not a psychiatrist, but I sometimes play one on Fark; that was actually my first thought too.
 
2013-02-05 09:11:38 AM  

Krymson Tyde: I'm not a psychiatrist, but I sometimes play one on Fark; that was actually my first thought too.


1)  You're not Ron Paul.

2)  Too soon.
 
2013-02-05 09:24:50 AM  
The first part of the Tweet is originally from a Bible verse.  Are these people outraged by the Bible?
 
2013-02-05 09:46:19 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: The first part of the Tweet is originally from a Bible verse.  Are these people outraged by the Bible?


Time to add it to the list of things conspiring against Conservatives.

Also, I think I might actually agree with him on the latter part of that tweet.

Got a guy who is stressed the hell out from being shot at, shooting at people and just being around death and destruction nearly every day of his life in the military. I don't think putting him in a situation with more shooting is the solution.
 
2013-02-05 10:09:58 AM  

Codenamechaz: Rev. Skarekroe: The first part of the Tweet is originally from a Bible verse.  Are these people outraged by the Bible?

Time to add it to the list of things conspiring against Conservatives.

Also, I think I might actually agree with him on the latter part of that tweet.

Got a guy who is stressed the hell out from being shot at, shooting at people and just being around death and destruction nearly every day of his life in the military. I don't think putting him in a situation with more shooting is the solution.


I don't think the outrage is about the latter part of the tweet, it's the fact that he made it sound like it was Kyle's own fault for getting shot (in the first sentence).  I'm sure liberals (like myself) agree with his antiwar sentiment as well, but come on, Ron, poor taste.
 
2013-02-05 10:32:03 AM  
He's absolutely right.  Why in the fark should you give someone with PTSD a gun?
 
2013-02-05 11:08:05 AM  
i can't believe that i am going to say this, but for the first time ever i agree with ron paul.
 
2013-02-05 11:39:23 AM  

LRA61380: I'm sure liberals (like myself) agree with his antiwar sentiment as well, but come on, Ron, poor taste.


I think you've captured the very essence of Ron Paul, and his "movement," in this sentence.
 
2013-02-05 11:39:38 AM  

Codenamechaz: Rev. Skarekroe: The first part of the Tweet is originally from a Bible verse.  Are these people outraged by the Bible?

Time to add it to the list of things conspiring against Conservatives.

Also, I think I might actually agree with him on the latter part of that tweet.

Got a guy who is stressed the hell out from being shot at, shooting at people and just being around death and destruction nearly every day of his life in the military. I don't think putting him in a situation with more shooting is the solution.


Ron Paul is right.  It's a very appropriate use of the Bible verse in question.
 
2013-02-05 11:39:50 AM  
RON PAUL has it right today.
 
2013-02-05 11:40:26 AM  

EyeballKid: LRA61380: I'm sure liberals (like myself) agree with his antiwar sentiment as well, but come on, Ron, poor taste.

I think you've captured the very essence of Ron Paul, and his "movement," in this sentence.


It's not in poor taste at all.  It's how do you say.....an inconvenient truth.
 
2013-02-05 11:41:19 AM  
I'm having a hard time understanding why I should be disgusted.

Please don't make me defend Ron Paul because he finally said something sensible for once....
 
2013-02-05 11:41:48 AM  

GAT_00: He's absolutely right.  Why in the fark should you give someone with PTSD a gun?


Yep

heidinoele: i can't believe that i am going to say this, but for the first time ever i agree with ron paul.


Broken clock, etc. But that too.
 
2013-02-05 11:42:17 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: The first part of the Tweet is originally from a Bible verse.  Are these people outraged by the Bible?


If they actually knew what is in it they would be.
 
2013-02-05 11:42:35 AM  
I'm not so sure the biblical citation was warranted, but yeah, he's right about treating PTSD at a firing range.  The fact that this provoked such outrage shows how pants-wetting insane Americans are when it comes to their guns and their military.

/not a Paultard
 
2013-02-05 11:43:07 AM  

Wellon Dowd: Rev. Skarekroe: The first part of the Tweet is originally from a Bible verse.  Are these people outraged by the Bible?

If they actually knew what is in it they would be.


It's like the Constitution. You already know what it says in there, why would you waste your time reading it?
 
2013-02-05 11:43:47 AM  
I saw "Ron Paul" and "bipartisan disgust" and I thought, yeah, this is gonna be one of the times he's actually right. And, whaddya know.
 
2013-02-05 11:47:13 AM  
And yet this guy is defended for his tweets.
 
2013-02-05 11:49:07 AM  
RON PAUL made a dumb comment, but he is kind of right.

You don't treat people with PTSD with a trip to the range.

Likewise, you don't take people being treated for alcoholism to the bar either.
 
2013-02-05 11:49:12 AM  

GAT_00: He's absolutely right.  Why in the fark should you give someone with PTSD a gun?


Yeah, not much upside in going that route.

Why not spend the afternoon playing a relaxing round of disc golf, or something?
 
2013-02-05 11:49:51 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: The first part of the Tweet is originally from a Bible verse.  Are these people outraged by the Bible?


Why do Americans hate Jesus?
 
2013-02-05 11:50:40 AM  
I like this quote and think it applies to all military personnel.
 
2013-02-05 11:52:27 AM  
Well I think it had worked before so he had tried it again...Plus...I think bringing someone with PTSD to a gun range might actually be beneficial. It takes what you're "scared" of and confronts you with it but removes all threat from it.

It puts you back in control over the gunfire.

Now I'm not saying it was a good idea because I'm no psychologist, but it makes some amount of sense. PLUS guys and gals with PTSD aren't all just on the verge of snapping.
 
2013-02-05 11:52:54 AM  
I don't think this tweet was nearly as offensive as Kincannon's.
 
2013-02-05 11:53:37 AM  

ilambiquated: I like this quote and think it applies to all military personnel.


So, it's predestined that all military personnel must die violent deaths?

What about police? Do they get to die of old age?
 
2013-02-05 11:54:09 AM  
What was wrong with what Ron Paul said?  Are the people who are upset with him saying that it *IS* a good idea to take someone suffering with PTSD to a firing range?

Ron Paul hit the nail on the head with this one.
 
2013-02-05 11:54:29 AM  
Remember - if people at that gun range had been armed, these murders would not have happened.
 
2013-02-05 11:54:37 AM  
Holy shiat, I agree with RP. I need to go have a few drinks and lie down...
 
2013-02-05 11:56:36 AM  
Ummm... Paul was kinda right, wasn't he?  I mean, sure, it was a really insensitive thing to say so soon after his death, but IMHO, handing a gun and live ammo to someone suffering from PTSD is just asking for a Darwin Award.
 
2013-02-05 11:57:02 AM  

GAT_00: He's absolutely right.  Why in the fark should you give someone with PTSD a gun?


Depending on what the trauma was, giving someone with PTSD a banana may well spell your doom.

Also, part of the therapy for PTSD involves putting the afflicted person through facsimiles of the traumatic event in controlled circumstances. If the shooter suffers post-traumatic stress from memories of a firefight, having him use a gun in controlled circumstances - like at a range, supervised by a trained person - may be a way from him to gain control over those memories and prevent future triggering (no pun, not intended).

Not knowing the shooter's condition, it's possible that he was in recovery for months or years prior to this; it's possible they had some heated argument and his condition has (almost) nothing to do with the shooting; or it could be that something - a piece of clothing or a smell - triggered him in some other way.
 
2013-02-05 11:57:29 AM  

Sail The Wide Accountancy: PLUS guys and gals with PTSD aren't all just on the verge of snapping.


Apparently, this guy was.
 
2013-02-05 11:58:50 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: Remember - if people at that gun range had been armed, these murders would not have happened.


 Wayne LaPierre called for more armed guards at firing ranges because the only way you stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun.
 
2013-02-05 12:00:51 PM  
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2013-02-05 12:02:27 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: ilambiquated: I like this quote and think it applies to all military personnel.

So, it's predestined that all military personnel must die violent deaths?

What about police? Do they get to die of old age?


Not if they "stop living by the sword" as it were.  There's a difference between military and police?  Huh... who knew?
 
2013-02-05 12:03:18 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Also, part of the therapy for PTSD involves putting the afflicted person through facsimiles of the traumatic event in controlled circumstances


What were Chris Kyle medical credentials? Was he qualified to put "the afflicted person through facsimiles of the traumatic event"?If not then Ron Paul was right; Kyle got what he deserved.
 
2013-02-05 12:03:21 PM  

Dr Dreidel: GAT_00: He's absolutely right.  Why in the fark should you give someone with PTSD a gun?

Depending on what the trauma was, giving someone with PTSD a banana may well spell your doom.

Also, part of the therapy for PTSD involves putting the afflicted person through facsimiles of the traumatic event in controlled circumstances. If the shooter suffers post-traumatic stress from memories of a firefight, having him use a gun in controlled circumstances - like at a range, supervised by a trained person - may be a way from him to gain control over those memories and prevent future triggering (no pun, not intended).


And that would have required the gun to be loaded...why?  Or if he had to actually fire it, it wasn't loaded with blanks...why?
 
2013-02-05 12:03:46 PM  

Sail The Wide Accountancy: Well I think it had worked before so he had tried it again...Plus...I think bringing someone with PTSD to a gun range might actually be beneficial. It takes what you're "scared" of and confronts you with it but removes all threat from it.

It puts you back in control over the gunfire.

Now I'm not saying it was a good idea because I'm no psychologist, but it makes some amount of sense. PLUS guys and gals with PTSD aren't all just on the verge of snapping.


Couldn't they have just gone with a game of paintball?  Or if it's the loud firing of a real gun, just use blanks in his?
 
2013-02-05 12:03:47 PM  

Muta: What was wrong with what Ron Paul said?  Are the people who are upset with him saying that it *IS* a good idea to take someone suffering with PTSD to a firing range?

Ron Paul hit the nail on the head with this one.


The Right disagrees with Ron because guns are ALWAYS the answer.
The Left disagrees with Ron because he blamed the victim.
 
2013-02-05 12:03:59 PM  
Has anyone read Chris Kyle's book? If that disgusting animal represented the American military personal, then we have a really big problem.


/He does not. He was a sociopath who should have never been allowed to join.
 
2013-02-05 12:04:12 PM  

Muta: rufus-t-firefly: Remember - if people at that gun range had been armed, these murders would not have happened.

 Wayne LaPierre called for more armed guards at firing ranges because the only way you stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun.


He followed this by calling for a ban on violent video games.
 
2013-02-05 12:05:03 PM  

GAT_00: He's absolutely right.  Why in the fark should you give someone with PTSD a gun?


The majority of people with PTSD aren't the folks you see in the movies, GAT.  They aren't all Rambo, and PTSD isn't all hallucinations and violent outbursts.

My cousin doesn't sleep for shiat these days, but I don't have a problem taking a trip to the gun range with him.
 
2013-02-05 12:05:21 PM  

heidinoele: i can't believe that i am going to say this, but for the first time ever i agree with ron paul.


Isn't he for ending the drug war too? This makes my second time.
 
2013-02-05 12:05:55 PM  
If you are pissing off both Democrats and Republicans... you are on the right track.
 
2013-02-05 12:06:51 PM  
Oh fark it, this is fark and I'm trying to convince someone who talks about pot like marijuana psychosis is a thing.
 
2013-02-05 12:07:50 PM  
The only thing I take away from this is that RP shouldnt have said it so soon after his death, (of course people are going to get ass blasted over it, what the hell was he thinking) and he shouldnt have stuck a bible verse in there to try to be "Deep" or profound, because he just comes across as looking down on the dead guy.

Besides that he's right: Why do you want to give someone with PTSD a gun?
 
2013-02-05 12:10:17 PM  

Muta: Dr Dreidel: Also, part of the therapy for PTSD involves putting the afflicted person through facsimiles of the traumatic event in controlled circumstances

What were Chris Kyle medical credentials? Was he qualified to put "the afflicted person through facsimiles of the traumatic event"?If not then Ron Paul was right; Kyle got what he deserved.


I don't need a medical license to be a psychologist, and Kyle didn't need one to take a buddy to the range. I'm not claiming he was medically correct to do so, only offering an explanation as to why he might have. You want my professional opinion, I charge by the hour (and you should know that I work in IT).

GAT_00: And that would have required the gun to be loaded...why? Or if he had to actually fire it, it wasn't loaded with blanks...why?


I have no idea. Maybe because that's not a good enough facsimile, or maybe they'd already done that. I'm not Chris Kyle (surprise!), so I can only offer guesses and speculation as to the specifics here. I offered some very limited knowledge of PTSD in general, gleaned from having worked in mental health for a while (as well as knowing a few survivors of some rough traumas).
 
2013-02-05 12:10:28 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Also, part of the therapy for PTSD involves putting the afflicted person through facsimiles of the traumatic event in controlled circumstances. If the shooter suffers post-traumatic stress from memories of a firefight, having him use a gun in controlled circumstances - like at a range, supervised by a trained person - may be a way from him to gain control over those memories and prevent future triggering (no pun, not intended).


That is complete BS. That may be a treatment for phobias, but not PTSD. That is treated with coping strategies and learning how to manage stressful memories - NEVER trying to acclimate the person to the situation.
 
2013-02-05 12:11:01 PM  

MayoSlather: heidinoele: i can't believe that i am going to say this, but for the first time ever i agree with ron paul.

Isn't he for ending the drug war too? This makes my second time.


He basically just hates the federal government and everything it does.  So anytime it does something you don't like, you will agree with RP on that topic.  Anytime it does something you like, you will disagree with him.  The problem is that generally most folks who dislike the feds doing something don't dislike it because they merely believe it isn't the fed's job but rather that it is something that shouldn't be done period.

RP wants multiple competing currencies within the US, he wants a gold standard, and the move tyrannical laws you can think of are generally fine in his philosophy so long as it is a state doing it.

He, and his followers ime, are great at saying X is bad, but generally propose something worse than X as the solution.
 
2013-02-05 12:12:23 PM  

madgonad: Muta: What was wrong with what Ron Paul said?  Are the people who are upset with him saying that it *IS* a good idea to take someone suffering with PTSD to a firing range?

Ron Paul hit the nail on the head with this one.

The Right disagrees with Ron because guns are ALWAYS the answer.
The Left disagrees with Ron because he blamed the victim.


Spot on.  The Left hates the first half of the Tweet, the Right hates the second half.
 
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