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(IT World)   Depressing thought: sitting in McDonald's. More depressing thought: sitting in McDonald's because you need their free WiFi to do your homework   (itworld.com) divider line 48
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2013-02-05 08:24:57 AM  
Is that somehow worse than hanging out at Starbucks for the same reason?
 
2013-02-05 08:44:18 AM  

St_Francis_P: Is that somehow worse than hanging out at Starbucks for the same reason?


Pffft!  The people at Starbucks are writing novelsHello!
 
2013-02-05 09:48:15 AM  
While I was active duty, I'd go to a local McDonald's to do my homework because it was quiet, away from the kids, pets and wife, and I got coffee refills. My ex didn't like that much even though I was gone only two or three hours every other night. She thought I was either ignoring my family or having an affair.

/I was ignoring my family.
//I was ignoring my wife because she often criticized me for working on my engineering bachelor degree.
 
2013-02-05 09:50:16 AM  
Oopies, I wasn't ignoring my family, just my wife for obvious reasons. She was disruptive when I studied, did homework at home.

/No, no Freudian slip there.
 
2013-02-05 09:54:39 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: St_Francis_P: Is that somehow worse than hanging out at Starbucks for the same reason?

Pffft!  The people at Starbucks are writing novels.  Hello!


I always thought they were writing Haiku.

Sitting at Starbucks
Drinking my five buck coffee
All smug and smarmy
 
2013-02-05 10:00:43 AM  
So?
 
2013-02-05 10:01:51 AM  
Ain't they got no libraries where you live? I love hanging at the library -- free wifi, reasonably quiet, no hipsters.
 
2013-02-05 10:02:23 AM  
I consider the cheapest coffee I can get at Starbucks to be their table rental fee.

The same with McDonald's and the price of a small fries and a coke.
 
2013-02-05 10:03:40 AM  
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What did I do on my summer vacation?
EAT, EAT & EAT because of all those goddamn summer-school assignments!
Oh Christ - here comes the manager.
Yes, sir - I'll order another Happy meal so I can finish researching!
 
2013-02-05 10:07:29 AM  

flaminio: Ain't they got no libraries where you live? I love hanging at the library -- free wifi, reasonably quiet, no hipsters.


This. Put your tax dollars to good use.
 
2013-02-05 10:10:22 AM  
Panera, McDonald's, etc.  Free wifi and cheap coffee.  I'm not seeing the problem.
 
2013-02-05 10:12:13 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Pffft! The people at Starbucks are writing novels. Hello!


I thought it was their screenplays. Quirky, pretentious screenplays that will eventually get optioned for Paul Thomas Anderson to direct.
 
2013-02-05 10:14:30 AM  

St_Francis_P: Is that somehow worse than hanging out at Starbucks for the same reason?


Over the past few months, Ive done a fair amount of my studying at Starbucks, I have wifi at home, but just like to get out of the house to study. I could go to a mom and pop coffee shop, but just feel bad camping out there all day.

I really only ever get plain coffee or americanos at Starbucks, but Its been really eye opening to see what all the fatties line up and order at Starbucks.
I realize now that Starbucks isnt at all a coffee shop, but a high calorie fast food restaurant. 500-700 calories for some kind of frappachino? Yikes!
The drinks seem harmless to people since these liquid calories are disguised as a "coffee".
Studying for a masters in nutrition, coincidently.
 
2013-02-05 10:15:59 AM  
I went to a McDonalds that was advertising free Wifi last night and I couldn't seem to connect to their Wifi.
 
2013-02-05 10:22:54 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-05 10:26:52 AM  

St_Francis_P: Is that somehow worse than hanging out at Starbucks for the same reason?


Aaaaaaaaand we're done,
 
2013-02-05 10:30:36 AM  
My initial thought was that these people can afford laptops, tablets, etc to utilize the free wifi for research but can't afford to get even a basic broadband package?

Then it made me think, what if someone lugged their old POS desktop into McDonald's to use the wifi? I looked it up and this is what I found...
cdn.nwgimg.com
 
2013-02-05 10:34:32 AM  

Tenatra: My initial thought was that these people can afford laptops, tablets, etc to utilize the free wifi for research but can't afford to get even a basic broadband package?

Then it made me think, what if someone lugged their old POS desktop into McDonald's to use the wifi? I looked it up and this is what I found...
[cdn.nwgimg.com image 550x546]


Improv Everywhere covered this a few years ago--
http://youtu.be/EKEeHREK2nQ
 
2013-02-05 10:39:55 AM  

St_Francis_P: Is that somehow worse than hanging out at Starbucks for the same reason?


Less screaming kids on playground equipment interrupting concentration.
 
2013-02-05 10:41:05 AM  

Attar: Improv Everywhere covered this a few years ago--
http://youtu.be/EKEeHREK2nQ


Yep, I just found their documentation of that when I clicked on the second page of search results.
 
2013-02-05 10:42:52 AM  

theurge14: St_Francis_P: Is that somehow worse than hanging out at Starbucks for the same reason?

Less screaming kids on playground equipment interrupting concentration.


You have seen a fast-food place with playground equipment in the last several years?  Every single one I know of has been sued into oblivion   Even the Orlando McDonalds which used to have the world's largest playplace removed it and put in an outdoor dining area.
 
2013-02-05 10:57:47 AM  

omnimancer28: You have seen a fast-food place with playground equipment in the last several years?  Every single one I know of has been sued into oblivion   Even the Orlando McDonalds which used to have the world's largest playplace removed it and put in an outdoor dining area.


There are two in my town. They built a new one the next town over.

Also, nothing sad about sitting in McDonalds or using McDonalds wifi or even going there to do your homework. If that's what we're biatching about, we've pretty much solved everything.
 
2013-02-05 10:58:34 AM  

omnimancer28: theurge14: St_Francis_P: Is that somehow worse than hanging out at Starbucks for the same reason?

Less screaming kids on playground equipment interrupting concentration.

You have seen a fast-food place with playground equipment in the last several years?  Every single one I know of has been sued into oblivion   Even the Orlando McDonalds which used to have the world's largest playplace removed it and put in an outdoor dining area.


There's two of them where I live.  Burger King has one too.  You can even get a cardboard crown there if you want.
 
2013-02-05 11:06:20 AM  

omnimancer28: You have seen a fast-food place with playground equipment in the last several years? Every single one I know of has been sued into oblivion Even the Orlando McDonalds which used to have the world's largest playplace removed it and put in an outdoor dining area.


The Burger King in this town still has a play place. I have only been in there once and it reeked of piss and shiat in that whole room. I made some disparaging remarks to the other parents indirectly since I didn't know which family was letting their child spread the filth around. General disgust towards the others for letting their own children play/eat after being in that same mess. There is a BK with a play place in a neighboring town and there is also a McD about 50 miles from me with an outdoor play land. Those are the only three that I've seen in a very long time though.

/fairly small towns in Central Missouri
 
2013-02-05 11:07:25 AM  

Mugato: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Pffft! The people at Starbucks are writing novels. Hello!

I thought it was their screenplays. Quirky, pretentious screenplays that will eventually get optioned for Paul Thomas Anderson to direct.


You have to ask.  But, be careful: they don't always want to tell you that they're a writer and that they're writing.  That's why they pick a private place like Starbucks, where no one can see that they're writing.
 
2013-02-05 11:07:46 AM  

cgraves67: flaminio: Ain't they got no libraries where you live? I love hanging at the library -- free wifi, reasonably quiet, no hipsters.

This. Put your tax dollars to good use.


These. After I graduated from college, probably 15 years passed before I set foot in a library again. When I did, I was pretty shocked (in a good way) at what they have to offer. There's something for everyone, not just kids, students, parents, etc. And this was before Wi-Fi was prevalent.
 
2013-02-05 11:15:28 AM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: cgraves67: flaminio: Ain't they got no libraries where you live? I love hanging at the library -- free wifi, reasonably quiet, no hipsters.

This. Put your tax dollars to good use.

These. After I graduated from college, probably 15 years passed before I set foot in a library again. When I did, I was pretty shocked (in a good way) at what they have to offer. There's something for everyone, not just kids, students, parents, etc. And this was before Wi-Fi was prevalent.


If you RTFA it looks like these people are going to McDonald's after the library closes.  Not surprising because small town libraries usually close at 5pm, and some aren't even open every day.
 
2013-02-05 11:16:50 AM  

Tenatra: My initial thought was that these people can afford laptops, tablets, etc to utilize the free wifi for research but can't afford to get even a basic broadband package?


Some school districts and states give all students a laptop computer.
 
2013-02-05 11:42:48 AM  

flaminio: Ain't they got no libraries where you live? I love hanging at the library -- free wifi, reasonably quiet, no hipsters.


The library?

But that's where the homeless people live!
 
2013-02-05 11:48:04 AM  

angrymacface: Tenatra: My initial thought was that these people can afford laptops, tablets, etc to utilize the free wifi for research but can't afford to get even a basic broadband package?

Some school districts and states give all students a laptop computer.


i bet i know what race 90% of their student body is
 
2013-02-05 11:49:48 AM  

flaminio: Ain't they got no libraries where you live? I love hanging at the library -- free wifi, reasonably quiet, no hipsters.


The libraries where I live are only open 3-4 days a week until 5:00 due to budget cuts. Some of these libraries are hangouts for bored teens after school, the homeless, and senior citizens who want to get their porn on. Mcdonalds isnt so bad for free wifi really.
 
2013-02-05 11:53:23 AM  
These kids can't find a single weak wifi connection to borrow?  Get a decent $15 wifi antenna, it isn't that hard.
 
2013-02-05 11:53:30 AM  

tbhouston: angrymacface: Tenatra: My initial thought was that these people can afford laptops, tablets, etc to utilize the free wifi for research but can't afford to get even a basic broadband package?

Some school districts and states give all students a laptop computer.

i bet i know what race 90% of their student body is


Well, considering Maine is one state that gives laptops to students, don't be too sure.
 
2013-02-05 12:18:10 PM  
So those kids can afford laptops, but they can't afford the wifi to go along with them?  And all of the libraries have shut down?
 
2013-02-05 12:21:59 PM  
*clears throat* Schools are not allowed to assign homework or projects with required computer or internet access unless that computer or internet access can be provided during off hours at school, usually before and after.

"It's too early" or "but they have football practice" is not an excuse.
 
2013-02-05 01:08:07 PM  

PapaChester: *clears throat* Schools are not allowed to assign homework or projects with required computer or internet access unless that computer or internet access can be provided during off hours at school, usually before and after.

"It's too early" or "but they have football practice" is not an excuse.


I've never been in a course where the internet was required (except for some of the online courses I'm taking in College now, the only required part is to log in to view/submit weekly assignments). Even those classes don't require internet research, it's always been a fine option to cite information from any reputable source such as a book, magazine, etc.

I don't see how not having internet hurts the chances of academic success unless they are talking about effort required to "learn" the material. I believe the internet hurts the learning process a lot more if the person doing it doesn't actually take the time to read what they are supposed to be studying. I can open up google, type in the question I need and find the answers immediately. Same with looking up specific information in a report or ebook version of a course book, ctrl + f and search for a small phrase. I'll be able to find the information I need without wasting the time to read beyond a couple sentences.
 
2013-02-05 01:15:07 PM  
A couple of months ago I was working from home and on a conference call when the power went out (due to a squirrel). I grabbed my laptop and cell and headed to the nearest McD's. Thanks to the free WiFi I was back on the call in under 5 minutes.
 
2013-02-05 01:20:10 PM  

Andromeda: Mitch Taylor's Bro: cgraves67: flaminio: Ain't they got no libraries where you live? I love hanging at the library -- free wifi, reasonably quiet, no hipsters.

This. Put your tax dollars to good use.

These. After I graduated from college, probably 15 years passed before I set foot in a library again. When I did, I was pretty shocked (in a good way) at what they have to offer. There's something for everyone, not just kids, students, parents, etc. And this was before Wi-Fi was prevalent.

If you RTFA it looks like these people are going to McDonald's after the library closes.  Not surprising because small town libraries usually close at 5pm, and some aren't even open every day.


My bad, I only skimmed the article.
 
2013-02-05 01:34:44 PM  

PapaChester: *clears throat* Schools are not allowed to assign homework or projects with required computer or internet access unless that computer or internet access can be provided during off hours at school, usually before and after.

"It's too early" or "but they have football practice" is not an excuse.


They have to work after school to help support their family.
They have to be home to watch their little brother or sister until Mom or Dad get home from work.
They had detention after school (again) for being black/brown.
They don't safe at school after hours due to bullying or other threats.
They live on the other side of town from school and their only way home is the school bus that leaves right after class gets out.
 
2013-02-05 01:58:39 PM  

Attar: Tenatra: My initial thought was that these people can afford laptops, tablets, etc to utilize the free wifi for research but can't afford to get even a basic broadband package?

Then it made me think, what if someone lugged their old POS desktop into McDonald's to use the wifi? I looked it up and this is what I found...
[cdn.nwgimg.com image 550x546]

Improv Everywhere covered this a few years ago--
http://youtu.be/EKEeHREK2nQ


Usually not a big fan of these guys, but I do admire their dedication on this one.  They went ABO with oversized towers and [60lb] CRT monitors.
 
2013-02-05 01:59:19 PM  
No, sad would be eating the food.
 
2013-02-05 02:42:02 PM  

Current Resident: A couple of months ago I was working from home and on a conference call when the power went out (due to a squirrel). I grabbed my laptop and cell and headed to the nearest McD's. Thanks to the free WiFi I was back on the call in under 5 minutes.

I bolted a 1000 watt inverter under the hood and have a special extension cord rolled up to repower essentials. Wont run the big fridge but keeps cold a small bar fridge (1.2 amps) and the blower in the FAU. (3.1 amps)
It was funny, last time it was used it was Christmas  our house was lit up with all the Christmas lights on and we were the only ones on the block.
  The power was off for about 8 hous and the truck idling used about 5 gallons.
It is equipped with the hi output alternator 130 amps) which puts out about 60 amps at idle
 
2013-02-05 02:55:19 PM  
I wrote a pretty sizable chunk of my first (published) novel in a McDonald's (and in Wendy's, Burger King, and Arby's) because it got me away from my (now ex) wife so I could concentrate, it gave me access to WiFi, and I could get a Coke and sit at a clean table without hearing my noisy neighbors (who actually managed to be more obnoxious and annoying than the customers in a McDonald's restaurant).

Yes, it's still a depressing thought that I essentially had to flee to McDonald's to have the peace I needed to write a book.
 
2013-02-05 08:35:18 PM  
God bless McDonalds for helping people.
 
2013-02-06 12:50:33 AM  

cgraves67: flaminio: Ain't they got no libraries where you live? I love hanging at the library -- free wifi, reasonably quiet, no hipsters.

This. Put your tax dollars to good use.


Not always. Years ago, all my district's libraries were closed for about a year. It was a voter referendum, because "socialism".
 
2013-02-06 05:40:19 AM  
I stop in to McDonalds for a coffee occasionally have seen many more people hanging around in McDonalds to use their wifi, and it is sort of sad. It sort of threatens the whole "shove our crap food down your pie hole as fast as humanly possible" premise of their stores.
 
2013-02-06 09:15:43 AM  
When I was in university, they were starting the "EVERYTHING EVER IS ON THE INTERNET".

I was living at home at the time, and my mother seemed convinced I was playing around or jerking off and not doing course work.

The moral being that older people don't understand how technology is used, and the move toward a complete reliance on technolgy is probably hurting a lot more than it is helping simply because of a lack of access AS WELL AS a lack of understanding and support from parents.

Also, my mother is a coont.
 
2013-02-06 06:09:30 PM  

Macular Degenerate: I stop in to McDonalds for a coffee occasionally have seen many more people hanging around in McDonalds to use their wifi, and it is sort of sad. It sort of threatens the whole "shove our crap food down your pie hole as fast as humanly possible" premise of their stores.


I agree with you, but I always see a lot of teenagers hanging out. I think McDonalds must be OK with that, since they are creating long term customers. Start them early with the happy meals, allow them to act like morans and take up space as teenagers, and then take their money as adults buying 2 meals and a couple of happy meals. Rinse, repeat.

That and tourists using the free WiFi with nothing left on their tray and hours to kill
 
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