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(Slate)   This handy map shows just how many illegal immigrants live in each state. Undoubtedly this will end well   (slate.com) divider line 147
    More: PSA, illegal immigrants, Pew Hispanic Center, U.S. Immigration, economic recession  
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2013-02-05 10:02:20 AM  
That's a racist map
 
2013-02-05 10:03:25 AM  
Nothing too surprising. I doubt this is going to create any controversy. Illinois seems a little dark.

/dark as in the color of the state on the map, you racist bastards
 
2013-02-05 10:04:24 AM  
Huh. I though my state would be the highest.
 
2013-02-05 10:04:28 AM  
This whole thing is pretty simple really.  When it is easier/cheaper to break the law, then to follow the law, then the law will be ignored.  The consequences of this to society can be devastating.
 
2013-02-05 10:04:30 AM  
Given the hurt for workers there I'm surprised ND doesn't have more.
 
2013-02-05 10:05:10 AM  
Red is for rednecks
Blue is for blue collar union workers
Brown is for brown people
Except for VT. That's for white people
 
2013-02-05 10:05:33 AM  

MonoChango: This whole thing is pretty simple really.  When it is easier/cheaper to break the law, then to follow the law, then the law will be ignored.  The consequences of this to society can be devastating.


One of many good reasons to ensure laws are clear, sensible, and few in number.
 
2013-02-05 10:07:09 AM  
Does this map take migrant workers into account? NY fluctuates quite a bit by season, I know. I assume that's true in all ag states.
 
2013-02-05 10:07:18 AM  
I am surprised they used the term "illegal" rather than the euphemism du jour "undocumented."
 
2013-02-05 10:07:59 AM  
I think we should publish the names and addresses of these illegal and unnecessary implements of economic destruction.  Right guys?  Right?
 
2013-02-05 10:08:38 AM  

YixilTesiphon: MonoChango: This whole thing is pretty simple really.  When it is easier/cheaper to break the law, then to follow the law, then the law will be ignored.  The consequences of this to society can be devastating.

One of many good reasons to ensure laws are clear, sensible, and few in number.


Dang, that sounds simple, reasonable and articulate.  What the F are you doing on Fark?
 
2013-02-05 10:09:13 AM  
Due to oil spills, Alaska has a lot of ill eagles.

a57.foxnews.com
 
2013-02-05 10:10:35 AM  
Estimating where exactly illegal immigrants reside in the United States is tricky

So we just made the entire map burnt sienna.
 
2013-02-05 10:10:42 AM  
Red and brown makes blue.

That is the goal.
 
2013-02-05 10:11:04 AM  
Is this all illegals or just the mexicans?
 
2013-02-05 10:12:00 AM  

abhorrent1: Is this all illegals or just the mexicans?


So farking this.
 
2013-02-05 10:13:33 AM  
So, if you don't like illegal immigrants, move to Montana


s3.vidimg.popscreen.com

/Roger that, Trebek
 
2013-02-05 10:14:02 AM  
This map is flawed. South Carolina definitely tweaked the numbers.  Only 55,000 illegal immigrants in the state?  Yea, right.  There's more than that in and around Hilton Head Island alone.  Those rich farkers who come down from up north and live there employ hoardes of 'em.
 
2013-02-05 10:14:28 AM  
Looks like my state (NJ) is rolling in the illegals. I guess Chris Christie would rather they go into the emergency room and get "free healthcare", due to him vetoing the State Option on the Affordable Care Act.
 
2013-02-05 10:15:42 AM  
Montana and North Dakota must have a pretty sturdy fence to keep all those Canadians out.
 
2013-02-05 10:15:50 AM  

abhorrent1: Is this all illegals or just the mexicans?


That's kind of what I was wondering. It's put out by the "Pew Hispanic Center", so I'm guessing it's only Hispanics. To be fair, that's the majority we know about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal _immigration_to_the_United_States# Present-day_countries_of_origin
 
2013-02-05 10:16:17 AM  
Interesting - mouse over CA and some other states and the graph starts to go down after 2007 (except for Texas).

What changed in 2008?
 
2013-02-05 10:17:24 AM  
they tirrrkk errrr JERRRBBSS!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brj2UkUPjCI
 
2013-02-05 10:18:28 AM  

draypresct: abhorrent1: Is this all illegals or just the mexicans?

That's kind of what I was wondering. It's put out by the "Pew Hispanic Center", so I'm guessing it's only Hispanics. To be fair, that's the majority we know about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal _immigration_to_the_United_States# Present-day_countries_of_origin


The numbers seemed low to me, which is why I wondered.
 
2013-02-05 10:19:26 AM  

YixilTesiphon: Given the hurt for workers there I'm surprised ND doesn't have more.


Canadian immigrants don't count.
 
2013-02-05 10:19:31 AM  
I would say we need a fence around our borders but being from NJ. you bastards would prob act on that asap
 
2013-02-05 10:19:34 AM  

YixilTesiphon: Given the hurt for workers there I'm surprised ND doesn't have more.


I'm sure that climate and the long distance to our southern borders probably both play a role in that. There is probably also some cultural influence. A Latino person can walk around Texas and basically fit in. 90% of the population in ND is white, with another 5% being Native American, and they mostly live on the reservations away from the rest of the population. How comfortable would you feel going to ND as a minority?
 
2013-02-05 10:20:34 AM  
CSB time...
On my way home from the grocery store Saturday I saw a truck slide into the back of another car waiting to turn left. I stopped to make sure everybody was OK (they were) but the family in the truck did not speak any English. 5 people in the truck ranging in age from about 19 to 60 and not a bit of English. This looked like a brand new Ford F-150. My girlfriend speaks fluent Spanish so I called her and had her speak with the driver. The lady who was hit had already called the cops. The driver of the truck handed me back my phone, loaded up the family and proceeded to haul ass down the street for about 2 blocks until they slid off the road into a tree. My girlfriend said she told them the police were on the way and to wait and provide proof of insurance and a driver's license. I guess if you are here illegally you really don't care about other laws either. They also probably didn't have any practice driving in snow.
End CSB
 
2013-02-05 10:20:55 AM  
Woohoo, New Jersey! Thank god for the illegal immigrants. Their food is delicious.
 
2013-02-05 10:21:07 AM  

chance4510: Interesting - mouse over CA and some other states and the graph starts to go down after 2007 (except for Texas).

What changed in 2008?


Economy went into the shiatter.
 
2013-02-05 10:21:28 AM  
I notice they didn't print the addresses of all our fine visitors
 
2013-02-05 10:21:52 AM  
So, they just used 2010 Census data and divided by 3?
 
2013-02-05 10:22:35 AM  

chance4510: What changed in 2008?


Global Warming?

Come on people.  We need more flames in this thread. :-)
 
2013-02-05 10:22:54 AM  
So I have to show my driver's license and social security card to get a job because our Federal gov't is "cracking down hard" on illegal immigration, but Nevada has 10 f'ing % illegal workers ? ! ?
 
2013-02-05 10:22:58 AM  
Did anyone else notice that beside TX (which is a big "beside"), the browner states are blue states - specifically MD, NJ, CA and IL?

I'm not drawing any conclusions, but I could speculate that, due to the high number of businesses that operate near those cities (LA/SF, DC/Baltimore, Chicago, NY), they are attractive places to look for work, and that businessowners are more than happy to employ someone not likely to complain to the cops or cause any trouble in general.
 
2013-02-05 10:23:18 AM  
i21.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-05 10:25:42 AM  
False map is false.
Where are the other 7 states?
 
2013-02-05 10:26:21 AM  

draypresct: That's kind of what I was wondering. It's put out by the "Pew Hispanic Center", so I'm guessing it's only Hispanics. To be fair, that's the majority we know about.


Well of course it is. What kind of stupid revelation is that? We're surrounded by Mexico/Central America and Canada. How many Canadian illegal immigrants could there possibly be? They don't even want us to live in their country unless we give them a damned good reason.

I suppose some Russians could cross the Bering Strait to sneak into Alaska but of course those within walking or tubing distance from the States are going to be the largest contingent of illegals.
 
2013-02-05 10:26:32 AM  

chance4510: Interesting - mouse over CA and some other states and the graph starts to go down after 2007 (except for Texas).

What changed in 2008?


There was a chance Sarah Palin would be elected that they didn't want anything to do with that shiat.
 
2013-02-05 10:26:36 AM  

JRoo: [i21.photobucket.com image 500x497]


stupid picture.
What immigration laws did American settlers break?  Citation?
 
2013-02-05 10:26:39 AM  
Is this just for Hispanics?? Because Massachusetts should be dark brown if they are including Brazilians.
 
2013-02-05 10:26:54 AM  
If the map is accurate, then law enforcement can find them, too. And deport them.
therefore, the map is a lie.
 
2013-02-05 10:27:22 AM  
I think what we really need to know is how many have guns and what are their addresses?
 
2013-02-05 10:28:26 AM  

J.Shelby: So I have to show my driver's license and social security card to get a job because our Federal gov't is "cracking down hard" on illegal immigration, but Nevada has 10 f'ing % illegal workers ? ! ?


Newsflash: most illegals aren't applying for office jobs. A dedicated person can get dummy IDs that will get them in the door to a lucrative career in hospitality, food service, or support of one of those industries, but wouldn't get you in the door at DataCorp.

Quick, name an industry popular in Nevada. OK, now another one. What were the odds neither of those was "white-collar"-type work?

// and I wager (pun intended) that casinos have very strict hiring policies as well
 
2013-02-05 10:31:03 AM  

Mugato: draypresct: That's kind of what I was wondering. It's put out by the "Pew Hispanic Center", so I'm guessing it's only Hispanics. To be fair, that's the majority we know about.

Well of course it is. What kind of stupid revelation is that? We're surrounded by Mexico/Central America and Canada. How many Canadian illegal immigrants could there possibly be? They don't even want us to live in their country unless we give them a damned good reason.

I suppose some Russians could cross the Bering Strait to sneak into Alaska but of course those within walking or tubing distance from the States are going to be the largest contingent of illegals.


We have more than a few Asian illegal immigrants.
 
2013-02-05 10:31:42 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Did anyone else notice that beside TX (which is a big "beside"), the browner states are blue states - specifically MD, NJ, CA and IL?

I'm not drawing any conclusions, but I could speculate that, due to the high number of businesses that operate near those cities (LA/SF, DC/Baltimore, Chicago, NY), they are attractive places to look for work, and that businessowners are more than happy to employ someone not likely to complain to the cops or cause any trouble in general.


States with big cities have higher proportions of illegal immigrants, in other words?

Except for Pennsylvania, what the hell is going on here?

/from Texas
//any non-criminal should be able to come to the US
 
2013-02-05 10:31:52 AM  
So, what's New Jerseys real numbers once you factor out all the Bennies and Guidos?

/orange is the new brown?
 
2013-02-05 10:34:54 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Did anyone else notice that beside TX (which is a big "beside"), the browner states are blue states - specifically MD, NJ, CA and IL?


Georgia is a blue state?
 
2013-02-05 10:35:41 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: JRoo: [i21.photobucket.com image 500x497]

stupid picture.
What immigration laws did American settlers break?  Citation?


I'm pretty sure that the cultures that occupied this continent before we came had laws, customs, and territories they held to be their own. Or do you simply hold that their laws and customs didn't "count" because they didn't have the population or the firepower to back them up?
 
2013-02-05 10:36:13 AM  

YixilTesiphon: States with big cities have higher proportions of illegal immigrants, in other words?


I was tempted to say that, but PA, MA, OH, and NY seem to be enough counter-examples (specifically regarding NJ, I think they've got much of NY's working illegal population, weirding the numbers in those two states). Maybe a correlation once you hit some magic "density" number, but we'd need a detailed cartogram (or city-by-city data, rather than state-by-state) of illegal immigrants for that.

Anyway, I noticed the correlation, and several potential explanations came to mind, all of them divisive. The only thing I can say definitively is there appears to be a correlation between "states with cities/high pop density" and "number of illegal immigrants".
 
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