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(PBS)   Want to maximize your Social Security benefits? Better be ready to commit murder   (pbs.org) divider line 19
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hej
2013-02-05 12:43:11 PM
Does it matter who I'm ready to murder?
 
2013-02-05 12:43:12 PM
I'm going to assume this has something to do with how you can get half your spouse's benefits after they die if your own personal benefits are below a certain level.
 
2013-02-05 12:45:26 PM

theknuckler_33: I'm going to assume this has something to do with how you can get half your spouse's benefits after they die if your own personal benefits are below a certain level.


I only skimmed it, but it seems like if they stop collecting, you can get a spousal benefit, and if they die, you get a survivor benefit, as well, meaning you get all of their benefits.

Too bad I divorced her. If only I'd waited 40 years...
 
2013-02-05 12:48:16 PM
And in the end it would probably benefit the govt for this to happen.  Interesting mistake or a feature?
 
2013-02-05 01:03:14 PM
So Selma is bi, then?

Hot!
 
2013-02-05 01:12:07 PM
I hate conjecture articles like this. If this behavior was more prevalent then we'd have more murders.
 
2013-02-05 01:21:53 PM
Aside from the math, that reads like a fifth grader's version of a murder mystery.
 
2013-02-05 02:00:12 PM
Government benefit are not meant to makes sense, therefor they should be gamed. My brother collected twice as much in VA cash as I did. He was a surviving dependent of a veteran, whereas I was just a veteran.
 
2013-02-05 02:07:11 PM
Welcome to 0bama's Amercia.
 
2013-02-05 02:11:59 PM
It's great because as high-earners their whole lives, not only was their contribution maxed (or minimized as their income went up), but they didn't really need Social Security benefits anyway!
 
2013-02-05 02:40:32 PM
I think that gay spouses are not eligible to collect.
 
2013-02-05 02:50:39 PM
Here's my personal story.......

I had an uncle with a kid. The kid had gotten shaken up pretty badly at age 1 1/2 by some butthole of a babysitter and it injured him badly enough to be disabled for the rest of his life.

Because of that, he was on SSI.

Years later, when my uncle got injured on the job, he applied for his Social Security Disability. After about two years of legal wrangling he won and he got his first check, set at the maximum level allowed.

Since his kid was disabled before he was 18, he's taken from SSI and put on Social Security since it was slightly higher (by about $30 per month) than what he was getting from SSI. Nephew gets half and uncle gets half of the uncle's total amount.

When the uncle passed away a few years ago, the nephew got his 50%, plus a one-time "death benefit" of around $250, plus half of the half that the father was getting.

In other words, the kid get's 75% total of what a "regular" Social Security recipient would have been getting. Not 100%. I don't know where this article claims that a spouse or disabled child can get ALL of the money when they reach 70. If my nephew reaches 70 somehow, all that will mean is that he gets the same 75%, but it'll be re-labeled as "retirement" instead of "disabled adult child".  Just some clerical mumbo-jumbo.
 
2013-02-05 03:45:20 PM

Sir-Marx-A-Lot: I think that gay spouses are not eligible to collect.


We are most decidedly not. It's part of "conservatism" to charge us extra taxes, then prohibit us from being able to use any of the government services. If you complain about not getting any bang for your buck, that makes you a godless commie pinko.
 
2013-02-05 10:42:11 PM

TV's Vinnie: Nephew gets half and uncle gets half of the uncle's total amount.


This confuses me. If nephew was getting $100/mo on SSI, and uncle is now entitled to $300/mo on SSD, are you saying nephew gets $150 and uncle gets $150? I know it's not really my business but it seems so convoluted.
 
2013-02-06 12:33:53 AM

firefly212: Sir-Marx-A-Lot: I think that gay spouses are not eligible to collect.

We are most decidedly not. It's part of "conservatism" to charge us extra taxes, then prohibit us from being able to use any of the government services. If you complain about not getting any bang for your buck, that makes you a godless commie pinko.


that sucks. DOMA sucks. puritanical assholes shouldn't be allowed to pass laws based on their religion.

dammit it's Sharia law with a different name. and you know how much they hate that.
 
2013-02-06 12:34:49 AM
All true, provided Sally doesn't get caught, which she will, since she committed her murder at the Venitian in Las Vegas; meaning the crack team of CSI investigators over at the Vegas Crime Lab will be there almost before her poor husband hits the bottom step and solve the crime based on a single strand of her hair caught under poor hubby's left little fingernail, and the forgotten envelope containing the SSI printout in her suitcase, which the computer expert will run through his scanner and digitally read to learn how much money Sally will be getting in survivor benefits. And then it will be all over for her.

You should always commit your murders-for-profit in some out-of-the-way diner in North Dakota.
 
2013-02-06 01:16:16 AM

Curious: dammit it's Sharia law with a different name. and you know how much they hate that.


Seems appropriate that Aaron Sorkin (through his character on Newsroom) called the Tea Party the "American Taliban".

His most accurate line was in the West Wing though, when he said "If this was Europe, the Republican party would be three different parties". Man I wish we had their crazy system. Sure there's a risk of a REAL socialist, but not in this country
 
2013-02-06 01:09:45 PM

Gyrfalcon: All true, provided Sally doesn't get caught, which she will, since she committed her murder at the Venitian in Las Vegas; meaning the crack team of CSI investigators over at the Vegas Crime Lab will be there almost before her poor husband hits the bottom step and solve the crime based on a single strand of her hair caught under poor hubby's left little fingernail, and the forgotten envelope containing the SSI printout in her suitcase, which the computer expert will run through his scanner and digitally read to learn how much money Sally will be getting in survivor benefits. And then it will be all over for her.

You should always commit your murders-for-profit in some out-of-the-way diner in North Dakota.


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Marge Gunderson cannot believe you just said that...
 
2013-02-06 06:18:39 PM

Gig103: TV's Vinnie: Nephew gets half and uncle gets half of the uncle's total amount.

This confuses me. If nephew was getting $100/mo on SSI, and uncle is now entitled to $300/mo on SSD, are you saying nephew gets $150 and uncle gets $150? I know it's not really my business but it seems so convoluted.


Let me explain it. I would have replied sooner but some certain fark mod has a grudge on me it seems, and keeps plonking me into Suspension every time I dare to not kiss their hinder.

Nephew was getting $100 (it was a bit more than that but I'm using these as simple example amounts) from his SSI.

Uncle had to go on SSD, and would get $250

Since half of $250 is $125 and more than $100, the nephew was moved over to the Uncle's "account" as an Adult Disable Child, which meant that nephew got $125 and Uncle would get $125

When Uncle passed away, nephew would get his $125, plus a ONE TIME "death benefit" of $250, plus half of what Uncle was getting, rounded down ($62).

So, after the initial $437 total, he'd be getting $187 per month. Once/if he reaches "retirement age", his classification would be moved from "Adult Disabled Child" SSD to "Retirement" (regular Social Security). It's all just cleric mumbo-jumbo as I mentioned. Must mean something to the beancounters I guess.
 
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