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2013-02-05 06:49:39 AM
7 votes:
As an atheist, there's really only one "commandment" I try to live my life by.

Don't be an asshat (except on Fark)
2013-02-05 01:36:48 AM
6 votes:
They really shouldn't be called "Commandments", then.

Religion demands obedience and submission to their edicts and provide negative consequences (Hell) for those who don't obey; even one of the Commandments says that you can't have any other god above this one.

These atheist "commandments" aren't orders at all, rather suggestions on how to be a well adjusted, functioning member of society. There's no consequences involved with not adhering to them.
2013-02-05 08:13:20 AM
3 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: There is but one atheist commandment: reject belief in a God.

All else is handwaving and bluster.


You left something out. Slight difference, there.
2013-02-05 08:12:47 AM
3 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: There is but one atheist commandment: reject God.

All else is handwaving and bluster.


Rejecting something acknowledges that it exists.
2013-02-05 08:11:52 AM
3 votes:
i560.photobucket.com
2013-02-05 11:34:43 PM
2 votes:

Marcintosh: Well this went down hill fast


You want to know what is really funny? Christians think atheism is all about them.
2013-02-05 11:58:15 AM
2 votes:
Christianity is perfectly rational, if you make the same presuppositions that Christians make. Most of us believe that there is a God who was involved in creation (not necessarily 6 days/6k years), that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God (when interpreted correctly which is where the trouble starts) and that there is more to the world than can be explained by empirical observation. In some extreme views of Christianity, violence and legal coercion are considered acceptable methods of dealing with those who disagree.

Atheism is also perfectly rational, if you make the same presuppositions that atheists make. Atheists seem to believe that the only valuable knowledge is empirical knowledge. Other forms of knowledge are inferior and dismissed. Anyone who does not hold to their ontological and epistemological presuppositions is irrational, and in some extreme branches of atheism, worthy of destruction.

As a Christian, I don't have an issue with atheists, or people of other faith traditions. You have a set of beliefs that you have arrived at based on a set of presuppositions and life experiences. Your presuppositions and life experiences differ from mine and so you have reached a different conclusion. I don't understand why it can't be that simple. Why does either side feel compelled to denigrate and attack anyone who disagrees?
2013-02-05 08:16:16 AM
2 votes:
Be excellent to each other.

/Party on, dudes.
2013-02-05 08:15:34 AM
2 votes:
11. Don't be a dick because you have a different opinion

/actually thats for everyone
2013-02-05 08:09:50 AM
2 votes:
There is but one atheist commandment: reject God.

All else is handwaving and bluster.
2013-02-05 09:09:25 PM
1 votes:

huntercr: If all atheists did was mind their own business and go on with their hobby of "not stamp collecting" your analogy would make sense.


If there were no movements to enact religious based laws, to put religion into science classes, put religious messages on courthouses and other public property then you would not hear from 90% of atheists.

So please forgive the evil atheists for standing up for their constitutional rights. The oppression you feel must be unbearable!!
2013-02-05 10:30:17 AM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-02-05 09:54:31 AM
1 votes:

domo_kun_sai: The problem I always had with the original 10 commandments was the Supreme being wasted a lot on "Hey don't disrespect me". I mean really, God sends down rules and he is obsessed with people loving him.


Yeah, He's pretty petty, for an all-powerful, omniscient being.  It's almost as if Man created God in his own image...
2013-02-05 09:09:04 AM
1 votes:
The way atheism seems to be presented strikes as more anti-theism.   I would imagine most atheist really have no problem with belief in a god and are really just upset at the practice of religion.

Bill Maher is an excellent example.  He doesn't seem to be atheist, more anti-religion.  I am tending to go the other way in my life and would almost deem myself an alltheist.  I have always found it interesting that mankind of all ages and locations (even isolated) come to believe that there is something out there greater than ourselves.  I have no problem believing in god or that a god exists; my problem lies with religions and their practices.  I never understood why every religion claims their god/deity is infinite in power but finite in name.

I think a world without god would be a horrible place;  a world without religions (in current form) would be a good start.
2013-02-05 09:07:39 AM
1 votes:
First (and only) Commandment: Try not to be a dick.*


*We don't insist that you succeed every time, so long as it was an honest attempt.
2013-02-05 08:58:44 AM
1 votes:
Thou shalt not murder, lie, steal, ... LULZ just kidding (only retards would be dumb enough to fall for that stuff)

1.  We own Science, so be sure to use a smug tone when condescending to the muggles "aka religious folk"
2.  We own Logic and Reason, so constantly remind the religious people how irrational they are.
3.  The only things that deserve worship is that beautiful most perfect person In The Mirror, and if you have time give praise to the saints Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Nietzsche, PZ Meyers, etc..
4.  It's OK to pretend to tolerate the lesser of our kind who invoke the saying "I'm OK you're OK", since they are the only way we can infiltrate the religious and  subvert their moral base, but in the end just remember not to make it too obvious that you are pretending, even morans will accidentally notice if you over do it.
5.  Openly mock the religious people and slander them by any means possible.  But worry not, the retards aren't intelligent enough to notice, and even the ones that do think they must be polite when taking abuse, lulz, so let them have it don't hold back.
6.  I'm OK you're OK.  (wink wink nudge nudge)
7.  Hate God with all your Body, Spirit and Mind
8.  Nature is stuff you can touch with your tongue.
9.  Sex, drugs and rock n roll... FOR SCIENCE!!1! vote democrat
10.   Kill all the Christians and any sympathizers, lolz just kidding, I'm OK you're OK, seriously though yeah.
2013-02-05 08:55:03 AM
1 votes:
Here's a pretty good list of guiding principles from an atheist-friendly church.

The inherent worth and dignity of every person;Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all;Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.
2013-02-05 08:50:12 AM
1 votes:
Ugh.  Alain de Button?  Really?  This guy is one of the most aggravating, empty-headed accommodationists among well-known atheists.  This is a guy who desperately wants atheism be like religion, and model it after quasi-secular humanist values, because apparently he misses all the empty rhetoric, rituals and structure of organized religion.  And then he gets all pissy when a lot of atheists point out the obvious: that atheism isn't a religion, and a lot of us don't want anything to do with de Button's efforts to cope with the misplaced nostalgia he has for Sunday mass.

Atheism is simply a disbelief in the supernatural, you're kinda on your own to figure out your personal life philosophy after that.
2013-02-05 08:44:10 AM
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: aagrajag: AverageAmericanGuy: aagrajag: AverageAmericanGuy: There is but one atheist commandment: reject belief in a God.

All else is handwaving and bluster.

You left something out. Slight difference, there.

Being an atheist doesn't mean you have to reject that others can believe in God. Just that you reject God.

Dude, you trollin' again? I accept that others' belief in God exists. I have none. I reject the concept as unsupported by reason or evidence.

Of course, if I did accept the existence of the Christian god, I would still reject it. I don't like genocide half as much as that asshole.

Refuse to believe in God, Reject God. Eh. It's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.


How can I "reject" that which I never possessed the capacity to accept to begin with? Would you say that I "refuse" to sprout wings and fly? It may not be as easy to comprehend what goes on in other people's heads as you seem to think it is.
2013-02-05 08:33:51 AM
1 votes:

WordyGrrl: What people like AverageAmericanTroll fail to grasp is that atheists also do not believe that Satan exists. Bad things happen in this world because bad human beings make them happen, and quite often they use "I'm doing God's Will" as an excuse for their bad behavior.


I'm pretty sure that we humans haven't done anything to cause harlequin fetuses.

If you don't know what that is, don't GIS it at work.

//not safe for faith in a loving God
2013-02-05 08:28:59 AM
1 votes:
Hitch did it.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNtsq3LYl1E
8 is the best.
NSFW language.
2013-02-05 08:28:54 AM
1 votes:
Ah yes, this guy. He was the guy who made a splash a while ago for suggesting that there were certain aspects of religion that atheists should adopt for both holistic and PR reasons, and most of what I've read about him since then has been along those same lines. As such, I tend to have mixed feelings. On the one hand I understand that people find comfort, grounding, and community in ceremony, codes, traditions, etc., so I don't object to that, per se - do what you need to do to stay sane.

However, I also tend to agree a lot with a few criticisms of his ideas. First, part of what gives religion its ability to gain/retain adherents is its coerciveness. At the worst, this can be "do X or Hell," but even in more positive communities, you're still getting a message that "belonging to X is a better way/the best way/the only way to truly live." An atheist community won't have that luxury of being able to say that. We've already got a religion that draws from various traditions but doesn't make you believe any of them: The Unitarian Universalists. They can be nice people, but they lack a great deal of what people find motivating about religion.

The second criticism I agree with is that it's incredibly condescending and paternalistic to imply "Well, the little people are so stupid that they will never break free from harmful religions unless we introduce a pseudo-religion to act as a palatable substitute." Not only is this tremendously disrespectful to people that you want as your allies, but many of the people who have left religious communities are very, very sensitive to any institution that tries to establish creeds, create organized structures for endorsing standards of behavior, or act authoritarian. Some atheists admire or miss religious traditions and might be open to the idea, but a lot of them want absolutely nothing to do with anything that even resembles a religion, so if you tell them there's an "atheist church" that they ought to join they will tell you you ought to go fark yourself.
2013-02-05 08:26:33 AM
1 votes:

domo_kun_sai: The problem I always had with the original 10 commandments was the Supreme being wasted a lot on "Hey don't disrespect me". I mean really, God sends down rules and he is obsessed with people loving him.


Maybe he had something to hide, like "I'm not really the Supreme being, but this one tribe of sheep farkers thinks I am."
2013-02-05 08:24:05 AM
1 votes:
The problem I always had with the original 10 commandments was the Supreme being wasted a lot on "Hey don't disrespect me". I mean really, God sends down rules and he is obsessed with people loving him.
2013-02-05 08:21:08 AM
1 votes:
Quick, someone tell Dawkins about #10... Confidence is not arrogance.

/not a theist.
2013-02-05 08:17:18 AM
1 votes:

The 10 Commandments for atheists.


It would be nice if everybody could/would use them.
2013-02-05 08:15:35 AM
1 votes:
And unfortunately that article was about as long as the Book of Exodus.
2013-02-05 08:10:56 AM
1 votes:
Thou shalt be honest and faithful to the provider of thy nookie, and try REALLY hard not to kill anybody.

/Joe Bless You
2013-02-05 08:08:22 AM
1 votes:

miss diminutive: They really shouldn't be called "Commandments", then.

Religion demands obedience and submission to their edicts and provide negative consequences (Hell) for those who don't obey; even one of the Commandments says that you can't have any other god above this one.

These atheist "commandments" aren't orders at all, rather suggestions on how to be a well adjusted, functioning member of society. There's no consequences involved with not adhering to them.


It's like atheists are expected to live through the application of reason.
2013-02-05 08:08:07 AM
1 votes:

Dead for Tax Reasons: Thou shall not laugh at believers for talking to their invisible friend in the sky


I can't see your dick, does that mean it doesn't exist?

/ BURN, THREAD, BURN
 
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